Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-07 Thread Gary Nylander
:02 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Thanks Mike I am aware of that but it may not be the same rule in all PHRF jurisdictions.therefore I suggested to just get the proper spin pole(carbon fiber if you can afford it but even aluminium on a 32 foot boat is not too heavy to

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-07 Thread dwight
[mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike Sent: April 7, 2014 9:40 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 "The farther out you can project the clew the better" Precisely why some areas impose limits of J. In PHRFNS a whisker pole and a

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-07 Thread Hoyt, Mike
c-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Tim If you used a 20 foot whisker pole to get your 155 clew further out to leeward do the rules state that the inboard end of the pole must be attached at the mast? I have never found a beneficial (better speed) use for a long whisker pole like

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-07 Thread Hoyt, Mike
: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Neil, In my opinion you are mis-interpreting the YRALIR non-spinnaker regulations. The regulation is 1. Pole Length: Whisker poles may not be longer than "LP" without penalty. Extendable poles must be banded to in

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-05 Thread Michael Brown
e common one. Michael Brown Windburn C&C 30-1 Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 17:46:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Harben To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID:     <1396658778.47199.yahoomail...@web121903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: te

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread johnrmcl
Don't know how your local racing is regulated, but a whisker pole more than 1.5 J is usually not allowed. John McLaughlin C&C29-2 "Falcon" -Original Message- From: Michael Brown To: cnc-list Sent: Fri, Apr 4, 2014 7:55 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole -

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
ist@cnc-list.com > *Sent:* Friday, April 4, 2014 7:11:40 PM > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 > > Usually the spinnaker launch goes well double handed. > Takedown is more challenging, gybes are real interesting. > > NFS - Non Flying Sail - Whitesail > FS - Flyi

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Don Harben
lived to see another day ...LOL From: Michael Brown To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, April 4, 2014 7:11:40 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Usually the spinnaker launch goes well double handed. Takedown is more challenging, gybes are real

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Brown
During a very light wind race we may just sail straight at the mark and try to set the sails out all the way, ie 90 degrees to the center line. To do that I need a long whisker pole, 22' is a little short. With a J of 13.50, a #1 foot of 22' I would need a 26' whisker pole for a perfect "barn door

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Brown
"cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's really generous of you Mike, thanks for the offer. It's just me and my girlfriend so I don't think we're ready t

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread dwight
a crew controlling the inboard end from near the shrouds. _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Tim Goodyear Sent: April 4, 2014 6:00 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 BTW, ECSA (Eastern CT PHRF) has removed max

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Eric Baumes
Neil, In my opinion you are mis-interpreting the YRALIR non-spinnaker regulations. The regulation is 1. Pole Length: Whisker poles may not be longer than "LP" without penalty. Extendable poles must be banded to indicate their maximum permitted length. Spinnaker poles may be used as whisker p

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Rick Brass
J is the max length for a spinnaker pole without penalty under PHRF rules. In PHRF regions that do not make a distinction between a spin pole and a whisker pole, any pole longer than J wil get a penalty. In regions that do make a distinction, you can follow the best sailing practice of having a

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Neil Gallagher
gt;> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>" mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID: <mailto:caddevn5ebva9ow1xprcexszmf91jv+jz-thgsuxvrzgsmbe...@mail

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Tim Goodyear
rtificate and show $2M insurance coverage. > > If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. > > Mike > > > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 &g

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
t; certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. > > If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. > > Mike > > > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 > From: Stevan Plavsa > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" > Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole -

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Michael Brown
need a PHRF-LO certificate and show $2M insurance coverage. If you are getting brave I have a spinnaker I could loan you. Mike Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2014 14:51:44 -0400 From: Stevan Plavsa To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Message-ID:     Content-Type:

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Bill Coleman
..@cushwake.com> john.m...@cushwake.com Bill Coleman C&C 39 From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 2:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread dwight
.@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 4, 2014 3:52 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Thanks Dwight. I haven't raced the boat yet (except for some fun races the club hosts annually). The keelboat racing scene at our small club is dwindlin

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
ference in SOG for > your boat...it has for all of the C&C designs that I have sailed > > > -- > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Stevan > Plavsa > *Sent:* April 4, 2014 3:29 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-l

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread dwight
iled _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 4, 2014 3:29 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 I don't have a spinnaker. :/ On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: We all want our m

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I don't have a spinnaker. :/ On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Knowles wrote: > We all want our money back! > > Rich > > On Apr 4, 2014, at 15:16, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > > Well, so much for that. Just got a reply: "Sorry the pole has been sold". > The ad was posted today. > > grumble > >

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Rich Knowles
We all want our money back! Rich > On Apr 4, 2014, at 15:16, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > > Well, so much for that. Just got a reply: "Sorry the pole has been sold". > The ad was posted today. > > grumble > > Steve > Suhana, C&C 32 > Toronto > > > >> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Stevan Plavsa

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread dwight
Steve, You're lucky.just get a proper spinnaker pole for your boat and call it a day _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Stevan Plavsa Sent: April 4, 2014 3:17 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 Well, so muc

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
Well, so much for that. Just got a reply: "Sorry the pole has been sold". The ad was posted today. grumble Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > In light air on my old Mirage 24 I've actually held the clew of my genny > out with the boat hook to k

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
In light air on my old Mirage 24 I've actually held the clew of my genny out with the boat hook to keep the sail full. I think this'll be an improvement! http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-ViewAd?AdId=580584622 What do you guys think? Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Gary N

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Neil Gallagher
http://www.forespar.com/whisker2011.shtml#C_LIST They don't list a C&C 32 but based on similar length boats looks like Forespar would recommend 10-18 but 7-17 should work, especially if you're using a No. 2. Looking at their prices, $100 is great buy if it's in decent shape. Also consider i

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread John irvin
I would. -Original Message- From: Stevan Plavsa Sent: 04/04/2014 12:14 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 There's one for sale locally, 7' to 17' extension. I don't have one (but there are chocks/mounts on the deck for one). Is this the right size for a C&C 32

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Gary Nylander
To answer your basic question: the whisker pole will hold the clew of the jib out to windward when going downwind and sailing 'wing on wing' with the jib on one side, main on the other, so the jib doesn't flop around. It needs an attachment point on the forward side of the mast, either a ring or

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Gary Nylander
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of William Hall Sent: April 4, 2014 1:32 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 I agree, if that pole is usable, get it! Here in Long Island Sound, the whisker pole PHRF reg is n

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Stevan Plavsa
I didn't understand most of what you guys said, but I understood "buy". Thanks! Steve Suhana, C&C 32 Toronto On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:31 PM, William Hall wrote: > I agree, if that pole is usable, get it! > > Here in Long Island Sound, the whisker pole PHRF reg is no longer than LP. > So if

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread dwight
ril 4, 2014 1:32 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32 I agree, if that pole is usable, get it! Here in Long Island Sound, the whisker pole PHRF reg is no longer than LP. So if your jib is a 150%, LP is 1.5*J, quite a bit longer than J. Having that extra length beyond J ma

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread William Hall
I agree, if that pole is usable, get it! Here in Long Island Sound, the whisker pole PHRF reg is no longer than LP. So if your jib is a 150%, LP is 1.5*J, quite a bit longer than J. Having that extra length beyond J makes a big difference. Spinnaker pole length on the other hand is usually J. C

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Hoyt, Mike
Whisker pole is generally supposed to equal the J measurement of your boat. For the 32 is 12.8 feet. Price for the one 7 - 15 feet is $399 + tax so this is a good price. http://ca.binnacle.com/Whisker-Poles-&-Hardware/c232/p3070/FORESPAR-WHIS KER-POLE-(TWISTLOCK-ADJ.-7-15-FT.)/product_info.h

Re: Stus-List Whisker pole - 32

2014-04-04 Thread Joel Aronson
Sounds about right! Yes, its a bargain if it is not a corroded mess. Do you sail downwind a lot under main and jib or just jib? Do you have a fitting on the mast to attach it to? Joel On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Stevan Plavsa wrote: > There's one for sale locally, 7' to 17' extension. I