Re: Stus-List Freeze proofing

2017-01-04 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
Happy 2017 to all! Turns out my paranoia was not all in vain. Shore power was off for 3 days with temps into the 19F range. The marina suffered a 1 in 20 year "Arctic outflow" storm with a direct hit of winds > 50kn. Word on the dock is that a BC Ferries captain clocked 80kn winds nearby. My

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
nc-list.com> Cc: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 5:54:15 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Winter in eastern NC is really strange this year. Last night was 18F. Today was 33F. Tomorrow is 60. Sunday is 78. And by mid-week n

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
cnc-list.com> Cc: Della Barba, Joe <joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing We got down to 25 degrees with a ton of wind. Cabin heat is set on about 50 degrees on the 500 watt setting and the lowest cabin temp I saw was 38. I can click here and see my cabin temps fro

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
-24F is only… oh, wait… -31C. Okay, so maybe not better for the Canadians. Maybe the cold will be gone by the time you visit. Or maybe not. Bring warm clothes. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 16, 2016, at 2:00

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
high. From: Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then la

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Of Frederick G Street via CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 13:07 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the winter… :^) Nice storm coming

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Mine consists of winterizing the boat, then laying in LOTS of rum for the winter… :^) Nice storm coming today/tonight; snow starts before rush hour, with several inches forecast overnight; then temps drop to a low on Saturday of -24F, with winds gusting over 20… Sunday the temps get back up

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-16 Thread Jim Watts via CnC-List
My winterizing consists of plugging in the "flying saucer" heater, the Caframo Stor-Dry. No problems in decades of doing that. Jim Watts Paradigm Shift C 35 Mk III Victoria, BC On 14 December 2016 at 14:26, Nate Flesness via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > I usually just pull the

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
I usually just pull the thermostat in the Fall as part of winterizing - means the antifreeze circulates right away. Raw water cooled in freshwater, so its a good time to pull the leaves and pine needles out of it anyway...I keep thinking i'll install a filter Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 on the hard

Re: Stus-List Freeze Proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
+1 on that. I have installed a bypass a couple of years ago. Works perfectly. Marek Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network. Original message From: Mitchell's via CnC-List Date: 12/14/16 11:34 (GMT-05:00) To: CNC List

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Gary Nylander via CnC-List
kbr...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing There is a bypass port in the thermostat housing that allows a limited amount of water flow through the engine block and cylinder head prior to the thermostat opening. This is to prevent getting localized hot spots while the

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Michael Brown via CnC-List
The pink RV style antifreeze does freeze solid though it is suppose to not expand enough to break copper pipes at least down to the rated temperature. It may break plastic before the rated temperature. Michael Brown Windburn C 30-1 From: RANDY Thanks Rick,

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Of RANDY via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2016 10:57 To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing Thanks Rick, that's a relief to hear. I've been worried that I didn't let my A4 warm up enough to open th

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread RANDY via CnC-List
, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO - Original Message - From: "Rick Brass via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> To: "cnc-list" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: "Rick Brass" <rickbr...@earthlink.net> Sent: Wednesday, Dece

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-14 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
There is a bypass port in the thermostat housing that allows a limited amount of water flow through the engine block and cylinder head prior to the thermostat opening. This is to prevent getting localized hot spots while the engine is warming up. So some of your antifreeze gets into the block

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Rohwer via CnC-List
Hi Jeremy, The water (coolant) inside the freshwater cooled engine is controlled by the thermostat. Coolant is approx 50% glycol to reduce the freeze point of the coolant (-25F or more). When the engine hits the set temp (190F), the thermostat opens and allows coolant cooled by the heat

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Russ & Melody via CnC-List
Hi Jeremy, I don't do any specific winterizing on the water sytems. I'm just across the pond from you in the area I call Pacific South West (Canada)... I would call Alaska the real PNW. But then again marketing is not something anywhere near my realm of expertise. However, keeping a boat

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC- Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; jeremy.ra...@gmail.com Cc: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing I take a different strateg

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 2:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it through the system. Poured about 5L in until it ca

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread William Walker via CnC-List
don't forget foot pump at the galley sink if you have one.. winterizing the pressure water system won't get to it. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, December 13, 2016 Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List wrote: Here in the Pacific NW (Vancouver) we're getting freezing weather

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread randy via CnC-List
. randy Tamanawas 29-II Hood River, OR From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 11:44 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com; jeremy.ra...@gmail.com Cc: Patrick Davin <jda...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
a full bucket (5 gal/25 l), my engine is well winterised. As I said, that extra $5-$10 (for an extra jug or two) is a very cheap insurance. Marek From: Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2016 14:21 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
If I may, two comments: - be careful about that plug in the muffler. I heard that they don’t seal well once removed - be careful with pink AF in the water heater. Supposedly it gels once heated. So make sure that you drain it all before you run the engine. Marek From: Bradley Lumgair via

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
My marina requires you to either have an ice-eater or rent one for $200 from them. My $500+ dollar ice-eater finally died after many years, so I am trying a new strategy - pond pumps. I got 2 of them, 1000 GPH each, off Amazon for $120 total. I am going to hang one under the bow and one under

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
I take a different strategy here in Seattle - no winterizing, just a marine electric heater on power=2, temp = lowest (anti freeze setting). Plus visiting the boat 1-2 times per week, which I'm doing anyway for winter projects. And sailing about 1x/month. Vancouver is a little colder, but it's

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
@cnc-list.com Cc: Jeremy Ralph <jeremy.ra...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List freeze proofing We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I think). I do have concern though if the ther

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List
We poured it into the sea strainer with the engine running and pumping it through the system. Poured about 5L in until it came out the exhaust (I think). I do have concern though if the thermostat was routing it into the block. I did warm up the engine first for ~20min under load with hopes

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Sounds like what I do to winterize around here… btw, the temp is all the way up to +7F right now… :^( Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Dec 13, 2016, at 12:17 PM, Jeremy Ralph via CnC-List > wrote: >

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
I think you got it. The only additional thought is that if you can use regular antifreeze in any of the the listed applications (obviously not in the potable water system) without harming the environment, it is reportedly better for your pumps to do so. Sounds like you’re still in the water,

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
Adding AF to the sea strainer is not going to winterize the block or muffler. As Marek suggested, you need several bottles. Stay warm! Joel On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Jeremy, > > we do winterising every fall > > - run AF

Re: Stus-List freeze proofing

2016-12-13 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Jeremy, we do winterising every fall - run AF through the engine. There are many options, I use a bucket in the cockpit and a long hose that I attach to the fresh water hose taken off the cooling water seacock (after the seacock is closed). You will probably need about 15 l (3 jugs) as a