If I may suggest one more thing – in your planning, don’t count on your
electronics only. Have a paper chart and the basic info on navaids that you are
supposed to see. You are already talking about backup GPS and a backup to a
backup, but stuff happens.
I don’t know how the other guys are
Thanks for the advise. I always study the charts on my laptop and Cary
paper charts on the boat as well. never leave home with paper charts.
On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Marek Dziedzic dziedzi...@hotmail.comwrote:
If I may suggest one more thing – in your planning, don’t count on your
tide what to expect. Need some Guidance
Curtis;
First off, I’d suggest your local US Power Squadron chapter and see about
taking a basic “Piloting” course. It will teach you how to calculate tides and
currents from available information, and how to include these into your course
planning
That's a great idea Curtis.
BVIs are the best entry sailing in the Caribbean.
Good choice. It can be windy, and with the sandy bottom set a long anchor rode.
And remember:
Good decisions are based on Experience.
Experience, is based on bad decisions
(but that is also were
Yes, the BVI are a really great place to sail! But no more anchoring; it's
required that the supplied mooring balls be used.
Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Russ Melody russ...@telus.net
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my
training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near shore
passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to help and head out
to the R 4 F1 R4s @ 32-05,901N 080-35,099W this is the channel into
Port
Curtis,
You need to look into the offshore currents. Garmin, OpenCPN and other nav
software will show them.
Sounds like a great trip!
Joel
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my
training.
Did you referance a tides and current book? It will tell you the speed and
direction of the current which you can add or subtract as a vector to your
course and speed. You have to compensate the tide and cutrent to your
specific location which adds even more difficulty.
I kinda feel like it is
Curtis, are you planning on doing this in the near future? If so, are you
prepared for some rather cold hours at sea?
Best,
Dave
1982 CC 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Curtis cpt.b...@gmail.com wrote:
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to
Yes Like I said I have the tide tables for my area. I will leave with the
tide and return with the tide. What my question is how bad they effect is
off shore? I understand the river and have sailed them 45 times in the last
2 years. Just need some advise for the off shore tide conditions. I see
It was 60 degrees here yesterday. and will be in the teens tonight. I will
pick a warmer window. I will not be cold. Will not much or I will not go.I
hate cold, However I do have a sense of ergency.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Dave Godwin dave.god...@me.com wrote:
Curtis, are you planning
Really what you're going to feel most ten miles out is the effects of the
Gulf Stream. usually in that area there's a back eddy that runs south along
the coast, but there can also be a back eddy on the back eddy as you get
farther and nearer. And it depends a lot on what the breeze has been doing
Overdress for the weather. And don't mess with the weather. If the forecast
is iffy, don't go. It can be really snotty in that area. I never take
chances there. I suggest you be part of a delivery crew a few times before
going offshore by yourself.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at
I have sailed this area for the last 2 years. I know the sound very well. I
have crossed the sound 4 or 5 times in foul weather. I have no intention of
challenging the weather YET. I only want to start the training offshore.
Straight out and back again. maybe 5 or 6 times going a little further
Curtis
Count on taking more time…averaging about 6 in a CC 30 may be wishful…are
you steaming all the way or sailing…Hope your motor is reliable and
strong…if you get your first big trip figured out that good before hand I
would say you have a career ahead in sailing…will this be alone or with
Curtis
Remember, the ocean deserves a very healthy level of respect. I grew up in
a fishing town, Lunenburg, Nova Scotia. The hundresd of names of family
members lost at sea and now carved in stone serve to remind me. Those were
good men and experienced sailors we lost.
I have read your posts
I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point
of peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as
with all these questions.
my wind is most always out of the south so I will steam out with the out
going tide under flat conditions I get 6 knots at
I have a newly installed engine in the boat. I installed it my self. Its a
2gm20F
Runs like a top. it was no easy task, I learned a lot through the process.
I don't want to do it ever a gain. However it gave me a classroom
environment to learn the systems on my boat like none other. Almost no
Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or
worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got
snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull started to leak fast or your
engine exhaust pipes broke and water started to flood the engine
Rich
On Jan 6, 2014, at 18:06, dwight veinot dwight...@gmail.com wrote:
Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or
worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got
snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull
From: CurtisSent: Monday, January 6, 2014 12:16 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"Yes Like I said I have the tide tables for my area. I will leave with the tide and return with the
Did I read your initial post correctly, that you’re leaving at 4am and
returning the same afternoon? A good long sail, but I’m not sure it’s really
an “overnight.”
And I agree with the earlier post: when I had my 30mkI, I figured on 5 knots as
a best estimate of speed under good conditions.
.
Rick
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veinot
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Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because
:07 PM
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Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or
worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got
snagged in fishing gear
...@svpaws.net
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Normally I would encourage anyone to set and do what they're planning. In this
case however - why in the world would you pick March to try your first
. I'll get out of Wally mode now.
Rick
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Curtis
What is your plan
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Normally I would encourage anyone to set and do what they're planning. In
this case however - why in the world
tide what to expect. Need some
Guidance
Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or
worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got
snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull started to leak fast or your
engine exhaust
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*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. Need some
Guidance
I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point
of peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as
with all these questions.
my wind
What would anybody do? I would first cry out OH GOD OH GOD Then I would
calm my self. I have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an emergency
fitting in the cockpit floor were a tiller can be attached. I have the
emergency tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the rudder I would heave
too and
What would anybody do? I would first cry out OH GOD OH GOD Then I would
calm my self. I have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an emergency
fitting in the cockpit floor were a tiller can be attached. I have the
emergency tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the rudder I would heave
too and
I'm sorry, I still vote for July. It's not temperature, it's time to plan
things properly. As you say, you're close to land most of the time. Then you
go on to talk about backup GPS, communications, etc. Your priorities are
wrong. Why not take a month or two longer and learn about current
the trip works out well for you.
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
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Curtis
*Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 1:23 PM
*To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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So
Not sure if I mentioned that I have been sailing Port Royal Sound for 2
years. Like 24 to 27 trips.
In fact here is a small clip of Joe Waters Water Sails Charleston
SCBirthday Cake where we took first place in the 2014 The JEAN RIBAUT
CUP which will be held on Saturday, April 6, 2013 .
So I
Josh
I am not sure what this +1 post means.does it mean that's your vote too.you
think I was too heavy, right.
thanks
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18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in Colorado last week.
Got gas fireplace going and watching the BCS championship game. War Eagle! Go,
Auburn!
Dennis C.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:18 PM, Rick Brass rickbr...@earthlink.net wrote:
John,
Remember where
Don't let your crayfish freeze... :^)
Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis (currently -18F...)
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- currently on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:09 PM, Dennis C. capt...@yahoo.com wrote:
18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in
Nothing said here was offensive to me Folks. I would prefer cold hard
truth. I thank you for your candor.I respect each and every one of your
input. I always expect for there to be liberal and conservative thought
process in this topic. I mean How did any of you get experiance? I am at
least
Curtis,
Here are a few tips, based on the assumption that you checked the boat and the
whether before leaving.
- On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day on a CC 30, with no tide to
take into account, my best day ever was 152 miles. A little over 6,25 knots
average, which meant running at
Great advice, thankyou.
I will p below.
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Antoine Rose antoine.r...@videotron.cawrote:
Curtis,
Here are a few tips, based on the assumption that you checked the boat and
the whether before leaving.
- On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day on a CC 30,
We are in the process of setting a bareboat charter in the BVI for April.7
Days. I hope we are ready for that. We are going with a couple that the
husband sailed from the hamptons to Bermuda twice and went to some sailing
school in Annapolis. Great people should be fun I hope to learn a lot from
I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point of
peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as with all
these questions.
That sounds really smart, Curtis. It sounds like you're going about this the
right way.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
” now.
Rick
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veinot
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:07 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. Need some Guidance
Curtis
What is your plan if you lose steering
Thank you Andy,
I really want to do it safely
II will take all necessary training and equipment it takes to make
me competent. I think i am ready for the next steps.Baby steps. Thanks for
your vote.It helps me cary on.
Cheers
On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Andrew Burton
Don't stand on the rail to pee overboard at night. The number of drown guys
found with their pants open is significant. Take the time to go down inside.
;-)
Antoine, I can't tell you the number of times I've said that! That is probably
the best advice for anyone heading offshore for the first
Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. Need some Guidance
Don't stand on the rail to pee overboard at night. The number of drown guys
found with their pants open is significant. Take the time to go down inside.
;-)
Antoine, I can't tell you the number of times I've said
Curtis. Maybe you should get your own website.
-Original Message-
From: Curtis
Sent: 06/01/2014 20:34
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. Need some Guidance
Thanks Rick, That's what I need! Cautionary encouragement. I only studied a
short
Verde, Fl.
From: Curtis
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. Need some Guidance
Nothing said here was offensive to me Folks. I would prefer cold hard truth. I
thank you for your candor.I respect each and every one
While I admit that I tend to be a little casual with the potential risks, I
agree that sometimes you need to just get out and do it.
I bought my little Mirage 24 2 yrs ago and basically rigged it up based on my
old memories from dinghy sailing and headed out into the harbor. Last 2 yrs
have
C.
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:09 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. Need some Guidance
18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in Colorado last week.
Got gas fireplace going and watching the BCS championship game. War Eagle
Dwight,
Sorry for the confusion. As much as I encourage preparation and safety
the +1 was for Rich Brass's response to you...maybe a bit harsh. Though,
to your point Curtis does need to remember that even though he is taking an
expierienced sailor with him he is responsible for both lives and
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