Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-07 Thread Frederick G Street
Yes, the BVI are a really great place to sail! But no more anchoring; it's required that the supplied mooring balls be used. Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:58 PM, Russ & Melody wrote: > > BVIs ar

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-07 Thread Russ & Melody
That's a great idea Curtis. BVIs are the best entry sailing in the Caribbean. Good choice. It can be windy, and with the sandy bottom set a long anchor rode. And remember: Good decisions are based on Experience. Experience, is based on bad decisions (but that is also were the

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-07 Thread Ronald B. Frerker
count for it.  Can be done with geometry on a chart or math. We can use the info on river flow of course. Ron Wild Cheri C&C 30 STL From: Rick Brass To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 4:17 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some guidance"

2014-01-07 Thread Curtis
Thanks for the advise. I always study the charts on my laptop and Cary paper charts on the boat as well. never leave home with paper charts. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Marek Dziedzic wrote: > If I may suggest one more thing – in your planning, don’t count on your > electronics only. Ha

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some guidance"

2014-01-07 Thread Marek Dziedzic
If I may suggest one more thing – in your planning, don’t count on your electronics only. Have a paper chart and the basic info on navaids that you are supposed to see. You are already talking about backup GPS and a backup to a backup, but stuff happens. I don’t know how the other guys are doin

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Josh Muckley
Dwight, Sorry for the confusion. As much as I encourage preparation and safety the +1 was for Rich Brass's response to you...maybe a bit harsh. Though, to your point Curtis does need to remember that even though he is taking an "expierienced sailor" with him he is responsible for both lives and

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Rick Brass
C. Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:09 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" 18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in Colorado last week. Got gas fireplace going and watching the BCS championship

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread M Bod
While I admit that I tend to be a little casual with the potential risks, I agree that sometimes you need to just get out and do it.  I bought my little Mirage 24 2 yrs ago and basically rigged it up based on my old memories from dinghy sailing and headed out into the harbor. Last 2 yrs have be

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Jack Brennan
erra Verde, Fl. From: Curtis Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:28 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" Nothing said here was offensive to me Folks. I would prefer cold hard truth. I thank you for your candor.I respect

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread John irvin
Curtis. Maybe you should get your own website. -Original Message- From: Curtis Sent: 06/01/2014 20:34 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" Thanks Rick, That's what I need! Cautionary encouragement. I only s

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Dennis C.
back to the guy.  My buddy on the boat said they only lost 3 1/2 minutes picking him up.  Now there's a racer! Dennis C. > > From: Andrew Burton >To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" >Sent: Monday, January 6, 2014 9:11 PM >Subject: Re:

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Burton
"Don't stand on the rail to pee overboard at night. The number of drown guys found with their pants open is significant. Take the time to go down inside. ;-)" Antoine, I can't tell you the number of times I've said that! That is probably the best advice for anyone heading offshore for the first

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
Thank you Andy, I really want to do it safely II will take all necessary training and equipment it takes to make me competent. I think i am ready for the next steps.Baby steps. Thanks for your vote.It helps me cary on. Cheers On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Andrew Burton wrote: > I will have a

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Burton
and die. There are always risks; that’s part of what makes > sailing a challenge – and fun. > > OK. I’ll get out of “Wally mode” now. > > Rick > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight > veinot > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:0

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Burton
> I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point of > peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as with all > these questions. That sounds really smart, Curtis. It sounds like you're going about this the right way. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine An

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
We are in the process of setting a bareboat charter in the BVI for April.7 Days. I hope we are ready for that. We are going with a couple that the husband sailed from the hamptons to Bermuda twice and went to some sailing school in Annapolis. Great people should be fun I hope to learn a lot from hi

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
Great advice, thankyou. I will p below. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Antoine Rose wrote: > Curtis, > Here are a few tips, based on the assumption that you checked the boat and > the whether before leaving. > > - On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day on a C&C 30, with no tide > to tak

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Antoine Rose
Curtis, Here are a few tips, based on the assumption that you checked the boat and the whether before leaving. - On the ocean, running non-stop 24 hours a day on a C&C 30, with no tide to take into account, my best day ever was 152 miles. A little over 6,25 knots average, which meant running at

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
Nothing said here was offensive to me Folks. I would prefer cold hard truth. I thank you for your candor.I respect each and every one of your input. I always expect for there to be liberal and conservative thought process in this topic. I mean How did any of you get experiance? I am at least tryi

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Frederick G Street
Don't let your crayfish freeze... :^) Frederick G Street -- Minneapolis (currently -18F...) S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- currently on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( > On Jan 6, 2014, at 8:09 PM, "Dennis C." wrote: > > 18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in Colorado last

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Dennis C.
18 here in Baton Rouge tonight. Crap, I was warmer in Colorado last week. Got gas fireplace going and watching the BCS championship game. War Eagle! Go, Auburn! Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 6, 2014, at 6:18 PM, "Rick Brass" wrote: > > John, > > Remember where he lives. Port Roy

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread dwight
Josh I am not sure what this +1 post means.does it mean that's your vote too.you think I was too heavy, right. thanks ___ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
Not sure if I mentioned that I have been sailing Port Royal Sound for 2 years. Like 24 to 27 trips. In fact here is a small clip of Joe Waters "Water Sails Charleston SC""Birthday Cake" where we took first place in the 2014 The JEAN RIBAUT CUP which will be held on Saturday, April 6, 2013 . So I

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
t; Washington, NC > > > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * > Curtis > *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 1:23 PM > *To:* CnC-List@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread j...@svpaws.net
I'm sorry, I still vote for July. It's not temperature, it's time to plan things properly. As you say, you're close to land most of the time. Then you go on to talk about backup GPS, communications, etc. Your priorities are wrong. Why not take a month or two longer and learn about current c

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
What would anybody do? I would first cry out "OH GOD OH GOD" Then I would calm my self. I have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an emergency fitting in the cockpit floor were a tiller can be attached. I have the emergency tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the rudder I would "heave too"

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
What would anybody do? I would first cry out "OH GOD OH GOD" Then I would calm my self. I have a cable driven edson Wheel. I also have an emergency fitting in the cockpit floor were a tiller can be attached. I have the emergency tiller in the forward birth. If I lost the rudder I would "heave too"

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
; > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of * > Curtis > *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 3:12 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some > Guidance" > > >

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Josh Muckley
gt; > Rick > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *dwight > veinot > *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 5:07 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some > Guidance" > &g

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread dwight
o:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of j...@svpaws.net Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" Normally I would encourage anyone to set and do what they're planning. In this

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread dwight
, and die. There are always risks; that's part of what makes sailing a challenge - and fun. OK. I'll get out of "Wally mode" now. Rick From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-li

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Rick Brass
...@svpaws.net Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 6:40 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" Normally I would encourage anyone to set and do what they're planning. In this case however - why in the world would you pick Ma

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread j...@svpaws.net
ly mode” now. > > Rick > > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight > veinot > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:07 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" > >

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Rick Brass
hallenge - and fun. OK. I'll get out of "Wally mode" now. Rick From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of dwight veinot Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 5:07 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. &quo

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread j...@svpaws.net
Normally I would encourage anyone to set and do what they're planning. In this case however - why in the world would you pick March to try your first near shore sail? Everyone's thinking it - I'm just saying. John Sent from my iPad > On Jan 6, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Frederick G Street wrote: >

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Frederick G Street
Did I read your initial post correctly, that you’re leaving at 4am and returning the same afternoon? A good long sail, but I’m not sure it’s really an “overnight.” And I agree with the earlier post: when I had my 30mkI, I figured on 5 knots as a best estimate of speed under good conditions. I

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Rick Brass
Subject: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near shore passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to h

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread sam . c . salter
erta  From: CurtisSent: Monday, January 6, 2014 12:16 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comReply To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comSubject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"Yes Like I said I have the tide tables for my area. I will leave with the tide and return

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Rich Knowles
Rich > On Jan 6, 2014, at 18:06, dwight veinot wrote: > > Curtis > > > > What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or > worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got > snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull started to leak

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread dwight veinot
Curtis What is your plan if you lose steering, say because of a broken cable, or worse if you lose the rudder altogether…what would you do if the prop got snagged in fishing gear…what if a through hull started to leak fast or your engine exhaust pipes broke and water started to flood the engine

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Levert
list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance" I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point of peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as with all these questions. my wind is most alw

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
I have a newly installed engine in the boat. I installed it my self. Its a 2gm20F Runs like a top. it was no easy task, I learned a lot through the process. I don't want to do it ever a gain. However it gave me a classroom environment to learn the systems on my boat like none other. Almost no sail

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
I will have a capable sailor with me But i will insist right up till point of peril to do it singled handed including the leg work and learning as with all these questions. my wind is most always out of the south so I will steam out with the out going tide under flat conditions I get 6 knots at 25

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread dwight veinot
Curtis Remember, the ocean deserves a very healthy level of respect. I grew up in a fishing town, Lunenburg, Nova Scotia. The hundresd of names of family members lost at sea and now carved in stone serve to remind me. Those were good men and experienced sailors we lost. I have read your posts

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread dwight veinot
Curtis Count on taking more time…averaging about 6 in a C&C 30 may be wishful…are you steaming all the way or sailing…Hope your motor is reliable and strong…if you get your first big trip figured out that good before hand I would say you have a career ahead in sailing…will this be alone or with cr

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
I have sailed this area for the last 2 years. I know the sound very well. I have crossed the sound 4 or 5 times in foul weather. I have no intention of challenging the weather "YET". I only want to start the training offshore. Straight out and back again. maybe 5 or 6 times going a little further

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Burton
Overdress for the weather. And don't mess with the weather. If the forecast is iffy, don't go. It can be really snotty in that area. I never take chances there. I suggest you be part of a delivery crew a few times before going offshore by yourself. Andy C&C 40 Peregrine On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:1

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Andrew Burton
Really what you're going to feel most ten miles out is the effects of the Gulf Stream. usually in that area there's a back eddy that runs south along the coast, but there can also be a back eddy on the back eddy as you get farther and nearer. And it depends a lot on what the breeze has been doing o

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
It was 60 degrees here yesterday. and will be in the teens tonight. I will pick a warmer window. I will not be cold. Will not much or I will not go.I hate cold, However I do have a sense of ergency. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Dave Godwin wrote: > Curtis, are you planning on doing this in t

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
Yes Like I said I have the tide tables for my area. I will leave with the tide and return with the tide. What my question is how bad they effect is off shore? I understand the river and have sailed them 45 times in the last 2 years. Just need some advise for the off shore tide conditions. I see hig

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Dave Godwin
Curtis, are you planning on doing this in the near future? If so, are you prepared for some rather cold hours at sea? Best, Dave 1982 C&C 37 - Ronin Reedville - Chesapeake Bay On Jan 6, 2014, at 1:22 PM, Curtis wrote: > So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Josh Muckley
Did you referance a tides and current book? It will tell you the speed and direction of the current which you can add or subtract as a vector to your course and speed. You have to compensate the tide and cutrent to your specific location which adds even more difficulty. I kinda feel like it is a

Re: Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Joel Aronson
Curtis, You need to look into the offshore currents. Garmin, OpenCPN and other nav software will show them. Sounds like a great trip! Joel On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Curtis wrote: > So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my > training. I'm in the planin

Stus-List Near-shore tide what to expect. "Need some Guidance"

2014-01-06 Thread Curtis
So I'm as some of you know in the process of moving to the next step in my training. I'm in the planing stages of my first over-night near shore passage. I will leave early am: 4:00 with a full moon to help and head out to the "R 4" F1 R4s @ 32-05,901"N 080-35,099W this is the channel into Port Ro