Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

:09/20/2016 8:05 AM (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! Dave and all: what “announcement” is this, exactly? I still get dealer-only emails from Raymarine, a

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o: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and > Message-ID: <f2df26b3-50bd-4dbc-b1a7-ff119c063...@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Note also that Open CPN software is only availabl

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ist-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 10:20:40 -0400 > From: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com <mailto:syerd...@gmail.com>> > To: jrtau...@aol.com <mailto:jrtau...@aol.com>, "C Stus List" > <cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc

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Of Patrick Davin via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 7:33 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Patrick Davin Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and I agree with you. If I had known Raymarine's love of proprietary, lock-you-in, charge-as-much-as-they-please

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.And windows. -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 18:02:44 -0400 From: Jerome Tauber <jrtau...@aol.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and Message-ID: <f2df26b3-50bd-4dbc-b1a7-ff119c063...@aol.com

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f ownership, hardware ownership should not come with > undisclosed hidden costs. > > Dave > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:05:37 -0500 > From: Frederick G Street <f...@postaudio.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrumen

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d I am typing this on a MacBook Air. So I'm not a complete Mac hater. : ) > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:32 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> >> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com

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Mac hater. : ) On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 7:32 PM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > From: Stevan Plavsa <stevanpla...@gmail.com> > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 21:37:20 -0400 > Subject: Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

When I bought our boat last fall there were brand new speed/depth/wind instruments installed (very poorly and they barely worked but there they were) So I struggled with what to do about a plotter. I considered Ipad, SmartPhone, Windows Tablet, In the end I went with a raymarine MFD/Radar

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ght...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! Dumb question maybe but what does MFD stand for? Dwight Veinot C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Dave S via CnC-List <cnc

Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

Dumb question maybe but what does MFD stand for? Dwight Veinot C 35 MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS d.ve...@bellaliant.net On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Dave S via CnC-List wrote: > Now sells only MFDs with optional add-ons. Like autopilots, VHF radios,

Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

As a follow up, I do like the EV100. I installed, did the one or two circles and it works. The calibration was a breeze! J On Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:03 PM, G Collins via CnC-List wrote: You Ray haters kill me...  just kidding!  But sometimes it pays to

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ns today. Dave PDate: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 12:58:42 + (UTC) From: Pete Shelquist <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com,  <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and         autopilot business! Message-ID:         <AB6

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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> -- Forwarded message ------ >> From: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> >> To: "C Stus List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >> Cc: >> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:47:59

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You Ray haters kill me... just kidding! But sometimes it pays to read the manual before you buy, and they are all available online these days. That Garmin thing is a cool solution, I like it. The Navico (B) version doesn't seem to be available anywhere, so that may have been a possible

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, WA C LF38 On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:00 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote: > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> > To: "C Stus List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:47:59 -04

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its infancy, though this is changing. The next few years will be interesting! Dave Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:57:01 -0400 From: Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarin

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) David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 10:17:18 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: syerd...@gmail.com Pete - patience man, I'm a 53 year old luddite! The realization

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ot;Mike Hoyt" <mike.h...@impgroup.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:11:21 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! Pete Have used ST60 speed/depth/wind on the last number of boats that we sailed on extensively. Robust instrument

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ly) chosen another brand.(s)I do think it is something important to consider when weighting options today. Dave PDate: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 12:58:42 + (UTC) From: Pete Shelquist <pete.shelqu...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com, <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stu

Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business

Raymarine is not so bad. When the day comes that you buy a device, which is not from Raymarine, but you are required to use a Raymarine MFD to upgrade the software or even use the device, then you’ll feel like a Mac(or Linux) user. As a non-Microsoft software user, I feel your pain.But

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-list@cnc-list.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Pete Shelquist Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! You raymarine guys kill me. Defend it to the end and drag others down when it's obvious that Ray falls short. I've been saying it for years: friends don't

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gain! > > All playfulness and side debates aside, if the new normal is that software > updates are part of ownership, hardware ownership should not come with > undisclosed hidden costs. > > Dave > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:05:37 -0500 > From: Frederick G

Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and

c-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! Message-ID: <329cad61-d4a1-44ec-9b6e-c43be1b65...@postaudio.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Dave and all: what ?announcement? is this, exactly? I still

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This is absolutely nothing new at all! I was a Raytheon dealer back in the day and they were always pulling crap like this. Their XX radar series was supposed to transfer a target from radar to chart plotter (back when this was a brand new idea). I sold a radar and plotter with this as a

Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

5 C 33-II k/cbPort Credit Yacht Club From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 8:23 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument,

Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com <mailto:mike.h...@impgroup.com>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot > business! > > My Garmin GPSMap 740 plotter uses a SD Card to update firmware after > down

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com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! My Garmin GPSMap 740 plotter uses a SD Card to update firmware after downloading the file to the SD card from a computer which in turn gets the file from the internet. Mike Persistence Halifax, NS Fro

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Dave and all: what “announcement” is this, exactly? I still get dealer-only emails from Raymarine, and I haven’t received any announcements like the one you reference. And as Graham mentioned, Raymarine is NOT the only one who uses their MFDs to update other system software. Simrad, B and

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, mistakes included. http://cncwindstar.blogspot.ca/ Dave 33-2 Message: 6 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 05:44:58 + (UTC) From: RANDY <randy.staff...@comcast.net> To: cnc-list <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business

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t; Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 10:36:48 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business! I bought an EV100 autohelm this spring. A few weeks ago, I got an email from Raymarine talking about a software update. I call their tech line asking how I could

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where manufacturers attempt to promote a proprietary, closed-shop approach to updating but most of those i found did not. Dave.  From: G Collins <cnclistforw...@hotmail.com> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Raymari

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Other vendors don't take this approach? Sure they do. I've got B Triton displays - can't do any updating on them without a B MFD. Same is true with all that I'm aware of. And I'd love to buy a Maretron ultrasonic tank level sender, it is N2K - but to calibrate it I also have to buy one of

Stus-List Raymarine exits the instrument, vhf and autopilot business!

Now sells only MFDs with optional add-ons. Like autopilots, VHF radios, standalone instruments... S, after a some very cordial discussion with Raymarine this week, I learned it is impossible to update the firmware on any of the thousands of dollars of brand new stuff on Windstar, unless I