Re: [Cooker] Do not renice X by default

2003-10-30 Thread Élie Charest
Le 30 Octobre 2003 00:05, Con Kolivas a écrit : > > > By the way, adding in the supermount patch for test8 to test9 seems to > > work fine - in fact, I haven't had any troubles except for my usb scanner > > not being detected at all. > > Chances are you're not loading the usb module correctly (some

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Robert L Martin
Greg Meyer wrote: I think Buchan's point is that if one tries to start X and it fails, XFdrake should be launched automatically to try and help the user fix the problem. how about this in the init 3 scripts have one that pipes "X start %datetime%" or something to /var/log/Xmark then at some p

[Cooker] Why doesn't kde require X

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Meyer
I was setting up a chroot environment tonight and I did 'urpmi --root /mnt/newroot kmail' and XFree86 did not get installed. Is this normal or correct? -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx

Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-30 Thread Robert L Martin
Yeah, but I am trying to figure it all out right now. I am having a terrible time getting MakeCD to run in anything other than auto mode. If I use the config file, it won't build the iso. The scripts are not well documented and everyone else that talks about doing this skips so many detai

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Jos
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 23:06, guran wrote: > Is it possible to use swsusp as a regular "halt-susp" > to get around the need of everyone who thinks that the next second is > important. > Otherwise I think that Linux or Unix has other walues than a fast start. > regards > guran Well... about the fa

Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-10-30 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> > You may just as well jump to test9. I built against test8 only because > > test9 did not propagated to locale kernel.org mirror last weekend. > > patch applies to it even without any offset. > > Nice :) > I have packaged -test9 with supermount -test8 patch, you can find it > here : > http://co

Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.6-test8 rpms

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Blin
> You may just as well jump to test9. I built against test8 only because > test9 did not propagated to locale kernel.org mirror last weekend. > patch applies to it even without any offset. Nice :) I have packaged -test9 with supermount -test8 patch, you can find it here : http://compil.mandrake.or

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 08:22:05AM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:11 am, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > > > > This kind of question should never need to be asked ... > > > > > > Regards, > > > Buchan > > > > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Han Boetes
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 22:29, Han Boetes wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 19:41, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > > > > mayor problem since linux is not a reboot OS. > > > > ^^^ > > please quote carefully. This hardly reflects what I said. > > Uh

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 22:29, Han Boetes wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 19:41, Han Boetes wrote: > > > > > mayor problem since linux is not a reboot OS. > > ^^^ > please quote carefully. This hardly reflects what I said. Uh? It's exactly what you said. You argued th

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread guran
Is it possible to use swsusp as a regular "halt-susp" to get around the need of everyone who thinks that the next second is important. Otherwise I think that Linux or Unix has other walues than a fast start. regards guran -- Mandrake Linux 9.2 kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk Only in a society that h

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Han Boetes
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 19:41, Han Boetes wrote: > > > mayor problem since linux is not a reboot OS. ^^^ please quote carefully. This hardly reflects what I said. > Well. It's certainly designed to be capable of running more or less > perpetually, that's true. That doe

[Cooker] [Bug 6257] [gcc] generates bad code with k6-2 optimizations

2003-10-30 Thread [cha93]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6257 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-30 23:05 --- I think this is actually may be due to the new version of binutils. It appears to be the assembler (as 2.14.90.0.5) that throws up the error. Also I've only seen it in

Re[2]: [Cooker] New ISO with updates

2003-10-30 Thread Galileo
GM> Yeah, but I am trying to figure it all out right now. I am having a terrible GM> time getting MakeCD to run in anything other than auto mode. If I use the GM> config file, it won't build the iso. The biggest problem for me is how to replace properly vmlinuz from kernel-boot and initrd for i

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 19:41, Han Boetes wrote: > mayor problem since linux is not a reboot OS. Well. It's certainly designed to be capable of running more or less perpetually, that's true. That doesn't mean that's how people use it, though. I boot my system at a minimum once a day, because I powe

[Cooker] [OT] Uniquely Vietnamese solution to software piracy

2003-10-30 Thread Leon Brooks
No software, so no piracy, so no problem, now we can join WTO and avoid US trade sanctions. http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/gmsv/7139304.htm Vietnam implemented a trade agreement with the United States in 2001 that requires the government to bring down

Re: [Cooker] Xboard fixes

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Jeudi 30 Octobre 2003 21:39, vous avez écrit : > > Now, gnuchess application is in %_gamesbindir, I just fixed xboard, > > until I can't upload it, my rpms are here: > > > > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.src.rpm > > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk

Re: [Cooker] Xboard fixes

2003-10-30 Thread bgmilne
> Now, gnuchess application is in %_gamesbindir, I just fixed xboard, > until I can't upload it, my rpms are here: > > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.src.rpm > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.i586.rpm Hmm, someone restarted apache on klama? The one t

Re: [Cooker] Gnome Ghostview does not allow changing printer settings

2003-10-30 Thread bgmilne
> Thanks, this is what I have tried to find out. I hope this kind of > functionality could be integrated in future to printerdrake. (or > configurations/gnome menu) Yes, a GUI for alternatives would be nice (and also something to check the existence of alternatives to catch problems with migrating

Re: [Cooker] Xboard fixes

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Jeudi 30 Octobre 2003 20:50, Han Boetes a écrit : > Olivier Thauvin wrote: > > Now, gnuchess application is in %_gamesbindir, I just fixed xboard, until > > I can't upload it, my rpms are here: > > > > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.src.rpm > > http://compil.mandrake.org/

Re: [Cooker] Xboard fixes

2003-10-30 Thread Han Boetes
Olivier Thauvin wrote: > Now, gnuchess application is in %_gamesbindir, I just fixed xboard, until I > can't upload it, my rpms are here: > > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.src.rpm > http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.i586.rpm I just committed them.

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Han Boetes
Vedran Ljubovic wrote: > - I also agree that using bash slows down things. Time it. You're making conclusions based on assumptions. > But I don't think that writing rc script itself in C will help much. rc script > is only a small portion of overhead, I think that the bigger problem are > script

Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Mark Scott
Jos wrote: On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 17:06, Evan Waite wrote: Haha, you mean still have horizontal lines (2) across them. I have a 19" Dell Trinitron (P992) that is only about a year old and has had the lines since new. Duh... that is by design... thin wires that keep the grid on its place. Read a

Re: [Cooker] Gnome Ghostview does not allow changing printer settings

2003-10-30 Thread lamikr_mdk
Thanks, this is what I have tried to find out. I hope this kind of functionality could be integrated in future to printerdrake. (or configurations/gnome menu) Mika Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 01:40, lamikr_mdk a é

[Cooker] [Bug 6259] [urpmi] cannot install grace if grace-devel is installed

2003-10-30 Thread [fpons]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6259 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 17:01, Vedran Ljubovic a écrit : > --- Jos Hulzink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Also shared printers can be set up after the desktop > > is there, though > > indeed, for real servers you might want to change > > priority. My problem is > > how to do implement your suggest

Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Thursday 30 October 2003 11:05 am, Jos wrote: > Duh... that is by design... thin wires that keep the grid on its place. > Read any good site about CRTs and you'll find info about this. > > Jos and it only affects trinitron based monitors. Thats why I know lots of people wont touch em. Those lit

[Cooker] [Bug 6259] [urpmi] New: cannot install grace if grace-devel is installed

2003-10-30 Thread [aol002]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6259 Summary: cannot install grace if grace-devel is installed Product: urpmi Version: 4.4-34mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal Priority:

Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Jos
On Thursday 30 Oct 2003 17:06, Evan Waite wrote: > >actually, unlike crt screens, it's hard to make an lcd screen without > >a few dead pixels (only one dead transistors and ...). > > [ well, on the contrary, high quality crt trinitron screens used to > > have an horizontal line on them ] > > Haha

[Cooker] Xboard fixes

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Now, gnuchess application is in %_gamesbindir, I just fixed xboard, until I can't upload it, my rpms are here: http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.src.rpm http://compil.mandrake.org/~nanardon/xboard-4.2.6-6mdk.i586.rpm Enjoy. -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Marco Romeny
BLINDAUER Emmanuel wrote: Le Mercredi 29 Octobre 2003 00:41, Han Boetes a écrit : S01xfs S02dm S03iptables S09network Yes but dm needs networking at the least. This solution may work for you but mandrake has to have sane defaults for everyone. Which is the general problem with suggestions. Most

RE: [Cooker] LG-fixed cooker install available

2003-10-30 Thread Jim Clark
I remastered 9.2 with the files mentioned below (from cooker) using the standard Mandrake script. When the installation starts it shows the new kernel version. When it reaches the disk partitioning section, it does show the Windows partitions but it does not recognizes them as formatted. When

[Cooker] [Bug 6000] [X11R6-contrib] Hardware acceleration with 3DFX Voodoo 4/5 broken

2003-10-30 Thread [dlugo]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6000 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-30 18:28 --- I did select "3D accellerated XFree86" (or whatever the option was for accelerated X) I have these glide-related RPMS installed: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> rpm -aq | grep -i g

[Cooker] SUB cooker

2003-10-30 Thread Dov Rosner
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RE: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Evan Waite
>actually, unlike crt screens, it's hard to make an lcd screen without >a few dead pixels (only one dead transistors and ...). > [ well, on the contrary, high quality crt trinitron screens used to > have an horizontal line on them ] > Haha, you mean still have horizontal lines (2) across them. I

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Vedran Ljubovic
--- Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, just accept the username and password, and show > some moving > graphics until you have authenticated the user. > > Ever noticed how long it takes to tell you your > password is wrong on > first start? Couldn't we just hack the bootsplash so tha

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Vedran Ljubovic
Hello, I agree with most of your points. --- Jos Hulzink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Vedran Ljubovic wrote: > > - I don't think parallelizing helps on computers > with > > a single CPU that doesn't support hyperthreading. > Sure > > Not true I think... Think about initiali

Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Le Jeudi 30 Octobre 2003 15:05, Austin a écrit : > > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 04:06, Jay DeKing wrote: > > > Yeah... like my fancy new LG LCD display. It's got some dead pixels, > > and the store I bought it at says LG won't return it unless there are >

Re: [Cooker] Dependency Oddities (weirdness)

2003-10-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > rpm it requires dejagnu and glibc-static-devel > > > I went ahead and rebuilt without this and got no errors. Comments? > > 2. gcc needs > > > > gcc-gnat >= 3.1 is needed by gcc-3.3.1-2mdk > > libgnat1 >= 3.1 is needed by gcc-3

Re: [Cooker] A new guide about rpmdrake

2003-10-30 Thread Eric Fernandez
Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Fernandez wrote: Hi everyone I have updated my guide, corrected the font problem and added the kernel update tutorial. BTW, you may want to mention Club free (I believe the urpmi.web page has some mirrors listed) urp

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 15:57, Svetoslav Slavtchev a écrit : > > On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 7:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Driver "nvidia" "nv" "vesa" > > > > It would try the non-free driver first, then the 2D one, and fall back to > > vesa > > if neither are available. > > > > Obviously this would r

Re: [Cooker] A new guide about rpmdrake

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eric Fernandez wrote: > Hi everyone > > I have updated my guide, corrected the font problem and added the kernel > update tutorial. BTW, you may want to mention Club free (I believe the urpmi.web page has some mirrors listed) urpmi meduim. Currently

Re: [Cooker] A new guide about rpmdrake

2003-10-30 Thread Eric Fernandez
Hi everyone I have updated my guide, corrected the font problem and added the kernel update tutorial. Cheers Eric

[Cooker] Re: What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Andrey Sapozhnikov
Olivier Thauvin wrote: I was unable to do a net install with the integrate 3C940 Gbits network card (network.img/network_gigabit_usb.img), I will test to make it working with an installled system. The motherboard is an ASUS P4P8E, it would be nice to make network install working quickly because

[Cooker] [Bug 6167] [evolution] Newer versions of Evolution (1.4.4) is much slower with big IMAP4 mailboxes

2003-10-30 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6167 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-30 16:58 --- Could you try new package (1.4.5-1mdk) I've uploaded on http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~fcrozat/evolution/ ? They lower the limit asked when listing stuff when using IM

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 7:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > A long time ago, X used to fall back to running a configuration tool. > > This may have been long ago, when XFdrake wstill had a link for > > XF86configure (or whatever Redhat used to

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread David Sansome
On Tuesday 21 Oct 2003 7:42 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > A long time ago, X used to fall back to running a configuration tool. > This may have been long ago, when XFdrake wstill had a link for > XF86configure (or whatever Redhat used to call their to

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jan Ciger wrote: > | Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:20, Buchan Milne a écrit : > | > |>>Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > |>>program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake ... > |> > |>And what if the user

Re: drak*-tools (was: Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??)

2003-10-30 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:28, Steffen Barszus a écrit : > I absolutly agree with you here. A drak[tab] should show all tools that > are available. On top of that, Rh did it for their tools ( all redhat-config prefixed if I remember well ) --- Combien de gens ne sont abstraits que pour paraitre p

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Svetoslav Slavtchev
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > | Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:20, Buchan Milne a écrit : > | > |>>Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > |>>program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake ... > |> > |>And what if the user had never u

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Michael Scherer
On Thursday 30 October 2003 16:00, Jan Ciger wrote: > | Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:20, Buchan Milne a écrit : > |>>Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > |>>program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake > |>> ... > |> > |>And what if the user had never

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:20, Buchan Milne a écrit : | |>>Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console |>>program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake ... |> |>And what if the user had never used Redhat before??

[Cooker] [Bug 6053] [drakxtools] problem in detection routine for network printer

2003-10-30 Thread [f.faber-pro]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6053 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-30 15:55 --- both support this, the problems seems to comes from host_timeout values ( 400ms ) see : 1°/ default printerdrake setting : [EMAIL PROTECTED] admin]$ nmap -r -P0 --hos

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread BLINDAUER Emmanuel
Le Mercredi 29 Octobre 2003 00:41, Han Boetes a écrit : > > S01xfs > > S02dm > > S03iptables > > S09network > > Yes but dm needs networking at the least. This solution may work for > you but mandrake has to have sane defaults for everyone. Which is the > general problem with suggestions. Most p

Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Jeudi 30 Octobre 2003 15:05, Austin a écrit : > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 04:06, Jay DeKing wrote: > Yeah... like my fancy new LG LCD display. It's got some dead pixels, > and the store I bought it at says LG won't return it unless there are > MORE THAN SEVEN dead pixels, otherwise the store has t

drak*-tools (was: Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??)

2003-10-30 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2003 14:53 schrieb Teletchéa Stéphane: > Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:41, Steffen Barszus a écrit : > > > May be we should normalize definitively the Mandrake tools as > > > drak* for example, but that's another point. > > > > We had that discussion allready ;) > > Yes but it i

[Cooker] Re[2]: 9.2 - manpages in Russian completely screwed up

2003-10-30 Thread "Andrey Borzenkov"
-Original Message- > > Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > please, fix. > > i'll > > thank you. i just realized that koi8-r patch for groff is disabled. any reason?

Re: [Cooker] Do not renice X by default

2003-10-30 Thread Austin
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 08:42, Olivier Blin wrote: > X isn't niced by gdm (just have a look with top). > It was quite incoherent to nice X from xdm and not from gdm ... Oops, okay... ignore my last post. I love gdm. :-) Austin -- Austin Acton Synthetic Org

Re: [Cooker] What is an LG CD-ROM?

2003-10-30 Thread Austin
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 04:06, Jay DeKing wrote: > Ahhh! GoldStar! The bane of the Damark Catalog Shopper ... > > "Lucky GoldStar?" That's a bit of a stretch, even if you take marketing's > values into account. There's very little "lucky" about GoldStar for the end > user. Yeah... like my fancy n

Re: [Cooker] Do not renice X by default

2003-10-30 Thread Austin
> > > Le 29 Octobre 2003 22:49, Con Kolivas a écrit : > > > > A couple of years > > > > ago when I was subscribed to this list I suggested renicing X by > > default > > > > to -10 and noticed that it was done on the following release by > > default. Hmm, although X is niced to -10 in /etc/X11/xdm

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:49, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:37 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:22, Greg Meyer wrote: > > >>I think Buchan's point is that if one tries to start X and it fails, > > > > XFdrake > > > > >>should be l

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 13:11, Teletchéa Stéphane a écrit : > Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 13:42, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > This kind of question should never need to be asked ... > > > > Regards, > > Buchan > > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > program in RH, he should kne

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:41, Steffen Barszus a écrit : > > May be we should normalize definitively the Mandrake tools as drak* > > for example, but that's another point. > > We had that discussion allready ;) Yes but it is still not completely normalised, so as we're going to 9.3/10.0, it could be

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:37 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:22, Greg Meyer wrote: > >>I think Buchan's point is that if one tries to start X and it fails, > > XFdrake > > >>should be launched automatically to try and help the user fix the > >> pro

[Cooker] [Bug 5127] [fluxbox] accented characters not visible in menus with default style

2003-10-30 Thread [oliv.blin]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5127 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:21, Rob a écrit : > On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:11, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a > > console program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk > > aka XFdrake ... > > That's great for that one user, but now t

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:37, Buchan Milne wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:22, Greg Meyer wrote: > > > >>I think Buchan's point is that if one tries to start X and it fails, > XFdrake > >>should be launched automatical

[Cooker] [Bug 6217] [mrproject] New: Crash when loading project with subtasks

2003-10-30 Thread [fcrozat]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6217 Summary: Crash when loading project with subtasks Product: mrproject Version: 0.9.1-3mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: RESOLVED Severity: critical Priority: P2

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:20, Buchan Milne a écrit : > >>>Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console >>>program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake ... >> >>And what if the user had

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2003 14:11 schrieb Teletchéa Stéphane: > Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 13:42, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > ... > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > program in RH, he should knew there is also one

Re: [Cooker] Do not renice X by default

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Blin
> any idea about gdm ? > it's not set in /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf X isn't niced by gdm (just have a look with top). It was quite incoherent to nice X from xdm and not from gdm ... -- Olivier Blin

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 13:22, Greg Meyer wrote: > >>I think Buchan's point is that if one tries to start X and it fails, XFdrake >>should be launched automatically to try and help the user fix the problem. > > Uh, it is. Anyone

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 14:20, Buchan Milne a écrit : > > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > > program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake ... > > And what if the user had never used Redhat before??? This guy has been > using Linux on hist deskto

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Frank Griffin
Buchan Milne wrote: Only load services when they're needed (or after gui is up) I think that's what WinXP does. It's not that simple. For me to be able to log in (on my desktop in a LAN), I need at least NFS (ie portmap, nfslock) and autofs up and running. For a disconnected LDAP setup (see the

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Rob
On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:11, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a > console program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk > aka XFdrake ... That's great for that one user, but now there's "Mandrake 9.2 Discovery Edition" aimed at peo

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jos Hulzink wrote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Michael Lothian wrote: > > >>Would it be possible to have a desktop pc option at install where all >>prioritories are for a desktop user >> >>Make the gui no 1 prioritory at boot time >> >>Only load services wh

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Thursday 30 October 2003 08:11 am, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > > This kind of question should never need to be asked ... > > > > Regards, > > Buchan > > Sorry to be against you Buchan, but as he knew there is a console > program in RH, he should knew there is also one in Mdk aka XFdrake ... I

[Cooker] [Bug 6053] [drakxtools] problem in detection routine for network printer

2003-10-30 Thread [till]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6053 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-30 14:20 --- Perhaps your printers do not listen on port 9100 or any other port which printerdrake is checking. Please do a simple nmap 192.168.1.40 and nmap 192.168.1.30 and pos

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: > Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 13:42, Buchan Milne a écrit : >>Buchan Milne wrote: >> >>>A long time ago, X used to fall back to running a configuration tool. >>>This may have been long ago, when XFdrake wstill had a link for >>>XF86c

Re: [Cooker] Do not renice X by default

2003-10-30 Thread Olivier Blin
> > You need the kernel source of the kernel you want the drivers > > compiled for. By default it looks for the kernel in /usr/src/linux > > so I usually symlink that to my latest kernel build directory. > > Sorry for not stating so: I do have kernel-2.6-source of the same > version installed. I

Re: NTP client in clock.pl [Was: Re: [Cooker] Some wishes for Mandrake 10.0...]

2003-10-30 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 11:46, Daouda LO a écrit : > I think that this is aimed only at the client part. We assume that the > time server is available only in the local network and has the 'at > least 3 external stratums' correctly (manually) set. External servers list > should be dropped. WDYT ? so t

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Jos Hulzink
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Michael Lothian wrote: > Would it be possible to have a desktop pc option at install where all > prioritories are for a desktop user > > Make the gui no 1 prioritory at boot time > > Only load services when they're needed (or after gui is up) > > I think that's what WinXP does

Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

2003-10-30 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:22, Luca Berra wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:54:05PM +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: >> However, why is it using "subnet" by default? > but probably the reason is that postfix target is real mail > servers on a lan, not standalone system. No, reason is that on almo

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 13:42, Buchan Milne a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Buchan Milne wrote: > > A long time ago, X used to fall back to running a configuration tool. > > This may have been long ago, when XFdrake wstill had a link for > > XF86configure (or whatever R

Re: [Cooker] Re: 9.2 - manpages in Russian completely screwed up

2003-10-30 Thread Leon Brooks
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 21:01, Thierry Vignaud wrote: > Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > please, fix. > > i'll[message ends here] Er... is that a good omen? )-: Cheers; Leon

[Cooker] Re: 9.2 - manpages in Russian completely screwed up

2003-10-30 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Andrey Borzenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > please, fix. i'll

Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select + recompile from src.rpm

2003-10-30 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
> Hello, > > I was wondering, if there is some way to upgrade (or install) new > packages form src.rpm source packages, rather than from precompiled > i586.rpm packages, with the ease urpmi provides, so that one could fully > benefit from his/her CPU. > > > "urpmi --auto-selects" can only be used t

[Cooker] [Bug 6258] [jabber] adding logrotate support in jabber to avoid server crash

2003-10-30 Thread [f.faber-pro]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-10-30 13:54 --- Created an attachment (id=945) --> (http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/attachment.cgi?id=945&action=view) script to be add in /etc/logrotate.d/ script to be add in /etc/logrot

[Cooker] [Bug 6258] [jabber] New: adding logrotate support in jabber to avoid server crash

2003-10-30 Thread [f.faber-pro]
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6258 Summary: adding logrotate support in jabber to avoid server crash Product: jabber Version: 1.4.2a-9mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: normal

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Lothian wrote: > Would it be possible to have a desktop pc option at install where all > prioritories are for a desktop user > > Make the gui no 1 prioritory at boot time > > Only load services when they're needed (or after gui is up) > > I thi

Re: [Cooker] When can we finally get X to fall back to XFdrake??

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Buchan Milne wrote: > A long time ago, X used to fall back to running a configuration tool. > This may have been long ago, when XFdrake wstill had a link for > XF86configure (or whatever Redhat used to call their tool). > > Why, if a user makes a mista

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread FACORAT Fabrice
Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 12:01, Jos Hulzink a écrit : > On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Vedran Ljubovic wrote: > > Here are some thinkings: > > > > - Harddrake should *not* be disabled by default. If > > one changes some piece of hardware (they'll probably > > do that while their system is off :) strange things >

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Michael Lothian
Would it be possible to have a desktop pc option at install where all prioritories are for a desktop user Make the gui no 1 prioritory at boot time Only load services when they're needed (or after gui is up) I think that's what WinXP does. Mike

Re: [Cooker] ADSL + postfix default config = open relay?

2003-10-30 Thread Luca Berra
On Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 12:54:05PM +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I'd say it's nice. However, why is it using "subnet" by default? Maybe Wietse/others have good reasons for it? I'd prefer they back the change on their side - also, it's better for us to change only the lowest possible number of

Re: [Cooker] Gnome Ghostview does not allow changing printer settings

2003-10-30 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > Le jeu 30/10/2003 à 01:40, lamikr_mdk a écrit : > >>I tried to change the printer settings in the ggv (ggv-2.4.0.1-1mdk) >>from "/usr/bin/lpr" to xpp but the settings does not store. >> >>If I try to print or go to check out se

Re: [Cooker] urpmi basesystem

2003-10-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pascal Terjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just tryied urpmi --root /tmp/mdk basesytem, it worked really > nicer than the first time I did it months ago. > > Only got 2 errors (except for kernel but that's not a problem) : > > 8:glibc #

Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select + recompile from src.rpm

2003-10-30 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2003, 13:06:51 Uhr MET, schrieb Tomasz Chmielewski: > I was wondering, if there is some way to upgrade (or install) new > packages form src.rpm source packages, rather than from precompiled > i586.rpm packages, with the ease urpmi provides, so that one could fully > be

[Cooker] urpmi --auto-select + recompile from src.rpm

2003-10-30 Thread Tomasz Chmielewski
Hello, I was wondering, if there is some way to upgrade (or install) new packages form src.rpm source packages, rather than from precompiled i586.rpm packages, with the ease urpmi provides, so that one could fully benefit from his/her CPU. "urpmi --auto-selects" can only be used to upgrade pre

Re: [Cooker] Boot-up speed

2003-10-30 Thread Jos Hulzink
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003, Vedran Ljubovic wrote: > --- Jos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.stack.nl/~josh/Mandrake > > Hello Jos! > > I think you have an excellent page there. > > Here are some thinkings: > > - Harddrake should *not* be disabled by default. If > one changes some piece of hard

Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved

2003-10-30 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Francisco Alcaraz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If it is impossible make a boot floppy due to the size of > the kernel, it could be appropriate erase this option in > DrakConf, couldn't it? It should still be possible since vmlinuz's size is less than 1.44 MB.. but soom it'll not be possible an

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