Re: [Cooker] 9.1 release?

2003-02-28 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Vendredi 28 Février 2003 18:05, Oden Eriksson a écrit : Hi. I have not followed the discussions closely about when 9.1 is out on the shelves, and/or when cooker is total frozen prior 9.1? cooker is freeze, 9.1 will out about Marsh, 15 So..., when is it? Chears. -- Linux pour Mac !?

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 release?

2003-02-28 Thread Thomas Backlund
Viestissä Perjantai 28. Helmikuuta 2003 19:05, Oden Eriksson kirjoitti: Hi. I have not followed the discussions closely about when 9.1 is out on the shelves, and/or when cooker is total frozen prior 9.1? So..., when is it? Here is what Warly stated on 18.02.2003: --- cut --- RC 1 will

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-19 Thread Quel Qun
On Tue, 2003-02-18 at 09:24, Bret Baptist wrote: On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:08 am, Warly wrote: RC 1 will soon be available on the mirrors and marks the beginning of the packages and features freeze for 9.1. New versions of packages will not be allowed exept for critical bugs. New

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-19 Thread Christian Bricart
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 11:24:51AM -0600, Bret Baptist wrote: On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:08 am, Warly wrote: RC 1 will soon be available on the mirrors and marks the beginning of the packages and features freeze for 9.1. [..] Arggg, do you think we could get Licq up to 1.2.4 from

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-19 Thread Bret Baptist
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 8:10 pm, Leon Brooks wrote: On Wednesday 19 February 2003 01:24 am, Bret Baptist wrote: Arggg, do you think we could get Licq up to 1.2.4 from 1.2.0a that we have now?? Note to all: a month ago was the time to ask things like this. There are a couple of

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread Bret Baptist
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:08 am, Warly wrote: RC 1 will soon be available on the mirrors and marks the beginning of the packages and features freeze for 9.1. New versions of packages will not be allowed exept for critical bugs. New releases of packages will be allowed until

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread Sascha Noyes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 11:08 am, Warly wrote: RC 1 will soon be available on the mirrors and marks the beginning of the packages and features freeze for 9.1. New versions of packages will not be allowed exept for critical bugs. New releases

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread Ken Mays
Would there be any issues upgrading glibc to v2.3.1 -Ken - Original Message - From: Bret Baptist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:08 am, Warly

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread Jan Ciger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 19:57, Ken Mays wrote: Would there be any issues upgrading glibc to v2.3.1 -Ken I reported one, so far no response. Seems like a binutils bug in the linker scripts or something, resulting in __init_array_end as

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread John Keller
From: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] New versions of packages will not be allowed exept for critical bugs. [...] These changes affects only main, Lenny is taking care of the contribs with his own rules. Be careful although that as not all the contribs are included in the boxes, you should warn

[Cooker] 9.1 RC1 install fails on PDC20276 (Asus P4B533-E)

2003-02-18 Thread Alexander Rayborn
Title: Message Argh... I was really hoping 9.1 would address this issue... install fails on Asus P4B533-E motherboard with Promise MBFastrack133 controller. It detects the SCSI interface, asks for the module to load... I choose ataraid.o and it says it loaded the module successfully and

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 01:24 am, Bret Baptist wrote: Arggg, do you think we could get Licq up to 1.2.4 from 1.2.0a that we have now?? Note to all: a month ago was the time to ask things like this. There are a couple of last-minuters like the BlueFish update that could be excused for

[Cooker] 9.1 packages version freeze and rc 1

2003-02-18 Thread Warly
RC 1 will soon be available on the mirrors and marks the beginning of the packages and features freeze for 9.1. New versions of packages will not be allowed exept for critical bugs. New releases of packages will be allowed until approximatively March, 7th. These changes affects only main,

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-11 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Edward Tandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I also tried using the blank.img boot image and puting my own kernel onto it, but that failed too because I compile both my network drivers and isofs into the kernel. The installer tries to load the modules, fails and the installation aborts. What

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-11 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Edward Tandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: huh... 9.1beta3 cd1 653 MB 9.1beta3 cd2 649 MB 9.1beta3 cd3 646 MB Downloaded from on of the French mirrors last night... 685211648 Jan 31 19:15 MandrakeLinux-9.1beta3-CD1.i586.iso 681541632 Jan 31 20:13 MandrakeLinux-9.1beta3-CD2.i586.iso

[Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 over the Open Content Network

2003-02-06 Thread Gary Lawrence Murphy
Sorry I was late off the mark on this -- you went and released beta-3 during the Groundhog Day timeframe when I'm distracted! Anyway, here goes again, this time for sure: I've updated my OCN download page to point to the three ISO images for the Mandrake 9.1 beta 3 disks. To join the OCN, all

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-05 Thread Edward Tandi
I am trying to install Beta 3 on a machine with an Asus A7V8X motherboard and a Athlon XP 1500 processor. I have tried both graphical and text mode and it only gets as far as uncompressing the kernel. It then hangs. I have also tried the mem=nopentium option. I have this machine working

[Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 kernel source

2003-02-05 Thread Edward Tandi
I am trying to compile NVidia drivers for Beta 3. Unfortunately, It won't compile with the standard headers, and when I use stock kernel source, I get module symbol errors (because the module versioning is different). Incidentally, I cannot make menuconfig on standard kernel source because the

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 kernel source

2003-02-05 Thread chris
You can get it from the cooker mirrors. Also, I think you need ncurses-devel installed. Edward Tandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/03 02:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 kernel source I am trying to compile

[Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Network Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-04 Thread Edward Tandi
I am trying to install Beta 3 on a machine with an Asus A7V8X motherboard and a Athlon XP 1500 processor. I have tried both graphical and text mode and it only gets as far as uncompressing the kernel. It then hangs. I have also tried the mem=nopentium option. I have this machine working fine

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-04 Thread Edward Tandi
I have just tried the CD too. It fails also, so I have just wasted a fine 700MB CD. Why Mandrake has the inability to produce 650MB ISO images dispite the overwhelming demand for them on Mandrake Club I'll never know. I think the problem is due to compiling the kernel with gcc 3.2.1. Does anyone

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-04 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Edward Tandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have just tried the CD too. It fails also, so I have just wasted a | fine 700MB CD. Why Mandrake has the inability to produce 650MB ISO | images dispite the overwhelming demand for them on Mandrake Club I'll | never know. | huh... 9.1beta3 cd1 653 MB

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine

2003-02-04 Thread Edward Tandi
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 23:59, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Edward Tandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have just tried the CD too. It fails also, so I have just wasted a | fine 700MB CD. Why Mandrake has the inability to produce 650MB ISO | images dispite the overwhelming demand for them on Mandrake

image size (was: Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 3 Install Fails on Athlon Machine)

2003-02-04 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann
Hi. On Wed 2003-02-05 at 00:51:03 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 23:59, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Edward Tandi [EMAIL PROTECTED] | I have just tried the CD too. It fails also, so I have just wasted a | fine 700MB CD. Why Mandrake has the inability to produce 650MB

[Cooker] 9.1 Release Date

2003-02-02 Thread Kris Komar
Does anybody know about when the official 9.1 will be released?

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Release Date

2003-02-02 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Sunday 02 February 2003 22:12, Kris Komar wrote: Does anybody know about when the official 9.1 will be released? `cat /usr/share/$deity/knowledge/software.db | grep Mandrake 9.1` if [$? = 0] then ...maybe God can tell. else ...when it's ready. fi Damian -- -- I don't want

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Release Date

2003-02-02 Thread Thomas Backlund
Viestissä Maanantai 3. Helmikuuta 2003 00:12, Kris Komar kirjoitti: Does anybody know about when the official 9.1 will be released? According to this: http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/briefs?n=/mandrakesoft/news/2405 it is sheduled for April... IMHO the Release Date of 9.1 should not

[Cooker] 9.1 only installs dhclient (not dhcpcd)

2003-01-27 Thread John Allen
dhclient is pretty useless, it does not set domainname, does not support sending my hostname (to allow dynamic DNS updates), and does not support generating/updating my yp.conf. Please make dhcpcd the default, or at least let it be a installable choice; setting DHCP_CLIENT in

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 only installs dhclient (not dhcpcd)

2003-01-27 Thread David Walser
--- John Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dhclient is pretty useless, it does not set domainname, does not support sending my hostname (to allow dynamic DNS updates), and does not support generating/updating my yp.conf. Now wait a minute, I thought we switched to dhclient because it has

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Warly
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Warly wrote: I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0. Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free space in the GPL CDs? Is there any

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Buchan Milne
Warly wrote: I forward it to product marketting marketting. Thanks. Some thoughs (I have no clear idea on the subject) At present standard is 3 CDs. - It is not acceptable that download edition has more packages than standard edition Agreed, this addresses that, and also ensures

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Robert Fox
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote: Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and convince everybody to test it and make it good

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 January 2003 04:08 am, Warly wrote: Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner,

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 14:23, Robert Fox a écrit : On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote: Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and

[Cooker] 9.1 beta 2 test report

2003-01-23 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco
Hi all, these are my experiences with ML 9.1 beta 2 (installed alongside with 9.0 sharing the /boot partition), I hope they can be of help. If you think I should add some bugzilla entry, please CC: me in an eventual reply because I'm not subscribed to cooker list at the moment. Test system:

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread rcc
On 23 Jan 2003 13:23:29 + Robert Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote: Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Thursday 23 January 2003 13:32, Buchan Milne wrote: Warly wrote: Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the mandrake default burner, and convince everybody to

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread danny
On Thu, 23 Jan 2003, Steffen Barszus wrote: k3b 0.8 should be out till next month I guess. So what can arson do what k3b can't do ? (yes I'm a k3b addict ;) ) IIRC : Burning bin/cue files. -Danny

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:32, Buchan Milne wrote: Yes. I hate xcdroast (mainly due to gtk file selection suckiness), k3b should be ok. But then, k3b and xcdroast must be worked on actively (in the time it would take to maintain arson etc). Except then GNOME guys like me don't want to use

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:04, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: I think these applications should stay in the downloadable isos. For day-to-day applications, i think it could be a great idea to have two applications for each task (may be one for kde, the other for gnome). Again, I have to say I don't

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 15:24, Adam Williamson a écrit : On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 13:04, Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: I think these applications should stay in the downloadable isos. For day-to-day applications, i think it could be a great idea to have two applications for each task (may be one for

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 23 January 2003 06:20 am, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:32, Buchan Milne wrote: Yes. I hate xcdroast (mainly due to gtk file selection suckiness), k3b should be ok. But then, k3b and xcdroast must be worked on

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2003, 07:59:55 Uhr MET, schrieb Brook Humphrey: Well we could do the sane thing and completely strip gnome from the distro accept for a few well placed aps. Thats personnaly why I started useing it in the first pace when it was a kde distro. I think you forgot the

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-23 Thread John Danielson, II
Teletchéa Stéphane wrote: Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 14:23, Robert Fox a écrit : On Thu, 2003-01-23 at 12:08, Warly wrote: Shouldn't we agree on making compromise and selecting some applications instead of including everything ? As an example shouldn't we agree on making xcdroast, or k3b, the

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-22 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: N.B. This driver has now been abandoned in favour of the new one. driver has nothing to do with resizer. resizing is a lot much easier than having writing support (which assumes having resolving all interactions between vfs/mm/ntfs regarding file holes,

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: N.B. This driver has now been abandoned in favour of the new one. driver has nothing to do with resizer. resizing is a lot much easier than having writing support (which assumes having resolving

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-22 Thread Buchan Milne
Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:30, Thierry Vignaud wrote: I agree, but the original proposition from somebody was, I think, to have full ntfs support using this set of tools included in Mandrake, so I quoted this section in light of that. I don't think anyone said anything

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Warly
Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: please forgive me for butting in here... but.. Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?) you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???! I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote: Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: please forgive me for butting in here... but.. Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?) you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???! I mean that switching

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Buchan Milne
Warly wrote: I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0. Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free space in the GPL CDs? Is there any reason why a 4th commercial-only CD is a bad

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 16:06, Buchan Milne wrote: Warly wrote: I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0. Is there any reason why the commercial apps *have* to go on the free space in the GPL CDs?

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread et
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Warly wrote: I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0. ehhh,,, on _MY_ download ISO from 9.0 it shows only 456 megs, and that menas to me that in

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Damian Gatabria
On Wednesday 22 January 2003 14:57, Brook Humphrey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote: Damian Gatabria [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: please forgive me for butting in here... but.. Midnight Commander 83 (really useful

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 15:50, et wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2003 10:06 am, Buchan Milne wrote: Warly wrote: I mean that switching to 650 MB ISO removed 150MB of packages, and that 9.1 is likely to have nearly 200 packages less than 9.0. ehhh,,, on _MY_ download ISO from 9.0 it shows

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 January 2003 04:56 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2003 14:57, Brook Humphrey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 22 January 2003 06:32 am, Warly wrote: Damian Gatabria

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread et
*SIGH* yes I know, and we are now (I thought) discussing why GMC is going to be left off the 9.1 download cds at 650 megs due to no size left... seems to me the download cds, especially if we are going to have them the same as the the first 3 standard cds now have more space avail. I know it

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 22 Jan 2003 08:08:22 -0800 Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm.. and what's the size of the mc package? 1.7 megs. Thats the current package sitting in cooker. mc is the easiest and the the most user friendly of the CLI fm,s I have used it since moving to linux and I would

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Buchan Milne
Adam Williamson wrote: *SIGH* PLEASE read the archives before posting this kind of thing. This has been explained at LEAST five times. The reason there's space on CD3 is that the bought version of Mandrake has extra commercial apps on CD3. Space is left on the free version for these

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 17:02, Buchan Milne wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: *SIGH* PLEASE read the archives before posting this kind of thing. This has been explained at LEAST five times. The reason there's space on CD3 is that the bought version of Mandrake has extra commercial

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-22 Thread Pixel
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps... Put it only in DiskDrake's expert mode. Don't enable it by default, but have a button when you select an NTFS partition that says Enable NTFS resizing - WARNING: EXPERIMENTAL! What if the user has a single NTFS partition and is not

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 20:26, Steffen Barszus wrote: Most of the people who are using Mandrake (and _not_ most of us) use Konqueror or Nautilus for their file browsing. Those are the ones that (I guess) need to be accomodated. I guess here you are wrong, if I did not get you false.

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:14, Warly wrote: IceWM 25 Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it. I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Buchan Milne
Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote: Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it. I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist =) No, the extra 64MB

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Austin Acton
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:49, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote: Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it. I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread andre
On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not record can still be a very good app? :) Sound is only broken in KDE. Austin Soundrecording with gnomemmeting seems to

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Pascal Cavy
Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 16:20, andre a écrit : On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not record can still be a very good app? :) Sound is only broken in

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Sander Jonkers aka Surfer
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 14:13, Austin Acton wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:49, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 22:26, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote: Do we have to vote for something small and essential as IceWM? I can't use my 400Mhz/64MB laptop without it. I use my

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread andre
On Tuesday 21 January 2003 17:52, Pascal Cavy wrote: Le Mardi 21 Janvier 2003 16:20, andre a écrit : On Monday 20 January 2003 17:17, Austin Acton wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not record can

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:57, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote: I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist My PII/300MHz/128MB laptop runs GNOME just fine. As long as I don't Wow, 128 MB?! That must twice as capable as my machine. ;-( open Mozilla or

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-21 Thread J. Greenlees
Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:57, Sander Jonkers aka Surfer wrote: I use my 400Mhz/128MB laptop with GNOME, but maybe I'm just a masochist My PII/300MHz/128MB laptop runs GNOME just fine. As long as I don't Wow, 128 MB?! That must twice as capable as my machine. ;-( my

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Blindauer
Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit : Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) NTFS partitioning tool 87 (could not be put in gpl CDs) As said in another mail is it

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:51, Emmanuel Blindauer wrote: Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit : Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) NTFS partitioning tool 87 (could

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:04, Adam Williamson wrote: As said in another mail is it http://ntfs-linux.sf.net ? Today, people who want to install linux have only one HD computer with windows XP preinstalled. They want to try linux because [put what you want here]. But, only with windows and

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (ntfs and install)

2003-01-21 Thread Dan Scott
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 20:04, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 01:51, Emmanuel Blindauer wrote: Le Lundi 20 Janvier 2003 11:14, Warly a écrit : Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Buchan Milne
Warly wrote: Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) Some comments on those not included ... Sun JDK 1.4.1_01 217 (could not be put in gpl CDs) ogle 166 (codec problem)

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote: Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) --snip --- Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?) according to

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Marcel Pol
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:14:50 +0100 Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) Blender 96 (not packaged) It's in contribs Midnight Commander 83 (really

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Pascal Terjan
Steffen Barszus wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote: Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?) according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be prefered and the mozilla is more a proof of concept ? So I would say yes. Last

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Vox
This time Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] becomes daring and writes: Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?) Yes! :)

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Steffen Barszus
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:52, Pascal Terjan wrote: Steffen Barszus wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 11:14, Warly wrote: Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?) according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be prefered and the

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: according to the mozilla-people shouldn't the child-versions of mozilla be prefered and the mozilla is more a proof of concept ? So I would say yes. mozilla has everything inside, phoenix has only a browser. I would say it doen't worth for us to have

[Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Warly
Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) OpenOffice 340 mplayer 329 Sun JDK 1.4.1_01 217 (could not be put in gpl CDs) Wine 198 k3b 197 ogle 166 (codec problem) GnuCash 143 (does not

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 beta2 problems accessing disks

2003-01-20 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Rolf Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * running: /sbin/chkconfig --add cups * remove_bigseldom_used * getFile Mandrake/mdkinst/sbin/chkconfig: * getFile XXX: * calling umount(/tmp/image) * accepting medium 1 * mounting /dev/hdc on /tmp/image as type iso9660, options * running:

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Guy.Bormann
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Marcel Pol wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:14:50 +0100 Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?) Yes, it's imo the best filemanager for console and X (xterm) Yep, as a filemanager on non-X servers and as a fallback when X is in

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Frederik Himpe
On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote: Warly wrote: Eclipse IDE 40 (not packaged) Also requires JRE=1.2 at least, so can't go in main/contrib. Since it uses (AFAIK) binary components for the interface, I don't know how easily it will go into jpackage, but it really is quite good, I

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Buchan Milne
Frederik Himpe wrote: On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote: Also requires JRE=1.2 at least, so can't go in main/contrib. Since it uses (AFAIK) binary components for the interface, I don't know how easily it will go into jpackage, but it really is quite good, I would like to see it on

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread rcc
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:45:50 +0100 (CET) Guy.Bormann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Marcel Pol wrote: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?) Yes, it's imo the best filemanager for console and X (xterm) Yep, as a filemanager on non-X

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2 (Phoenix)

2003-01-20 Thread Vin Shelton
Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) ... Phoenix 112 (not packaged yet, but should we have one more browser?) ... I vote yes - I use Phoenix all

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Dale Huckeby
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Warly wrote: Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?) YES!! More like indispensable for those of us who don't like to operate without it. Why do you think so many voted for it? Dale Huckeby

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Monday 20 January 2003 10:40, Buchan Milne a écrit : pine 52 (commercial) In PLF, but Deno wanted to see how many people wanted it on the commecial CDs. By reading the license, I am not sure we can put it on mandrake, neither free parts or commercial CD. According it, you can't

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 20 January 2003 02:14 am, Warly wrote: Beta 2 now available. Two 650 MB ISOs. Included Club applications (name, then number of votes, in parenthesis reason why it has not been included) OpenOffice 340 mplayer 329 Sun JDK 1.4.1_01

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Austin Acton
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 05:14, Warly wrote: Audacity 78 (is it really good?) It is GOOD! It is one of the most useful audio programs. I use it almost every day. Problem is version 1.1.1 (current in cooker and in 9.0) if full of bugs and bad audio quality. And the next version (1.1.3 I think)

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Buchan Milne
Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Monday 20 January 2003 10:40, Buchan Milne a écrit : pine 52 (commercial) In PLF, but Deno wanted to see how many people wanted it on the commecial CDs. By reading the license, I am not sure we can put it on mandrake, neither free parts or commercial CD.

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Damian Gatabria
please forgive me for butting in here... but.. Midnight Commander 83 (really useful ?) you mean 9.1 will NOT have mc???! Damian

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Audacity 78 (is it really good?) Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under mandrake the sound is broken and it can not record but then no app can record (at least under kde cant say under gnome as Idont really care to

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Austin Acton
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not record can still be a very good app? :) Sound is only broken in KDE. Austin -- Austin Acton Hon.B.Sc. Synthetic Organic Chemist, Teaching

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 20 January 2003 08:17 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Audacity 78 (is it really good?) Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under mandrake the sound is broken and

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Audacity 78 (is it really good?) Yes I use it under windows and on my mac but the problem is that under mandrake the sound is broken and it can not record but then no app can record

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 10:17, Austin Acton wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 11:17, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: a sound editing tool whose sound is broken and which can not record can still be a very good app? :) Sound is only broken in KDE. - soundwrapper audacity Works for me. TTFN, Lonnie

Re: [Cooker] 9.1 Beta 2

2003-01-20 Thread Wouter Lagerweij
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:01, Buchan Milne wrote: Frederik Himpe wrote: On ma, 2003-01-20 at 11:40, Buchan Milne wrote: ... Eclipse can be compiled with gcj: http://www.klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/ Have you tried this? I don't think it would be a good idea to include a crashing eclipse at

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