Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/03/07 13:00 Jared Stein apparently typed: > it seems OSs of the future would better detect the res/screen and adjust the > base font size automatically--even if it's just to set a baseline for the > default or 'normal' setting. Many Linux systems have already been doing that for quite som

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/03/07 12:13 Mark Howells apparently typed: > Using a commonly used example, 10px Geneva/Verdana is easily legible to > people with reasonable vision when using 1600px Just how do you define "reasonable vision"? I have no problem comfortably reading 16px on 17" at 1024x768, 20px on 19"

Re: [css-d] Baywerks site check please

2006-03-07 Thread ~davidLaakso
Peter Hyde-Smith wrote: > > I'd appreciate a quick check of http://www.baywerks.net/index.html > especially using IE 6, and Win2K and WinNT. Peter, just a quick look at all these pages in Linux (debian) Opera, FF, SeaMonkey (all @ 1280). I also looked at two of them in Konqueror 3.3, and they

Re: [css-d] Basic confusion on syntax

2006-03-07 Thread Els
Els wrote: > the second element is a child of the first one. > > Some examples: > 'ul#subNavlist li' means a element, that is a child of a > element with id="subNavlist". > '#subNavlist li' means a element, that is a child of any > element with id="subNavlist". > 'ul#subNavlist' means a elemen

Re: [css-d] Basic confusion on syntax

2006-03-07 Thread Els
Scott Haneda wrote: > I don't even know how to search this one out, excuse the basic > question: > > #subNavlist li > ul#subNavlist > Can someone explain to me the difference in putting the html > part you want before the css name, versus after: > ul.myname > myame.ul No, that last one is incurr

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/03/07 11:49 Mark Howells apparently typed: > I can't imagine that anyone with any sense regularly uses a full- > screen browser window at more than 1280; the whole point (for as > many people as I've ever talked to about it) of a large screen for > browsing purposes is to have multiple

[css-d] Baywerks site check please

2006-03-07 Thread Peter Hyde-Smith
2006/03/07 Hey All, I'd appreciate a quick check of http://www.baywerks.net/index.html especially using IE 6, and Win2K and WinNT. Also http://www.baywerks.net/bayonetags/tag50118.20060223/B1LLC50118nucleationstudy.html and http://www.baywerks.net/bayonetags/tag50118.20060223/B1PIB50118.html

Re: [css-d] Basic confusion on syntax

2006-03-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Mar 8, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Scott Haneda wrote: > I don't even know how to search this one out, excuse the basic > question: > > #subNavlist li { > display: inline; > list-style-type: none; > float:left; > } > > ul#subNavlist { > margin: 0; > padding: 0; > } Bookmark this

[css-d] Basic confusion on syntax

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Haneda
I don't even know how to search this one out, excuse the basic question: #subNavlist li { display: inline; list-style-type: none; float:left; } ul#subNavlist { margin: 0; padding: 0; } Can someone explain to me the difference in putting the html part you want before the css

[css-d] Need a CSS/HTML/Joomla expert for Jello Piefecta Layout Issue

2006-03-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm having a problem with a template I set up using the Jello Piefecta layout (http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/sidepages/jello-piefecta-clean.html). In a nutshell, one of my modules does not load properly when I use this layout. I am using Joomla CMS and all other templates I ha

Re: [css-d] Arrangement Attempt

2006-03-07 Thread Don - HtmlFixIt.com
nouhad wrote: > Hello again :) > Here is how the page > looks after I applied my CSS Coding to it. > CSS Source can be found here . > HTML Source can be found here . > My mock-up ca

Re: [css-d] IE footer problem

2006-03-07 Thread Holly Bergevin
From: "Michael Clayton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >I discovered that the following code is what breaks the site in IE. > >ul.nav { >list-style: url(bullet_small.jpg); >line-height: 1.5em; >margin-left: 18px; >padding: 0; >} > >The list-style specifically is what kills it. Does anyon

[css-d] FIR header with anchor

2006-03-07 Thread brian ally
I'n using an image replacement technique for my headers. I had wanted to use the same technique for a site's logo in the top banner as well, but have run into validation issues with XHTML 1.0 Transitional DTD. The problem is that the logo must be wrapped by an anchor linking back to the front p

[css-d] Menu background not showing (Pop Menu Magic)

2006-03-07 Thread Joanne
http://www.netperceptions.com.au/qldair/ The navigation on this page doesn't stretch all the way across (which is fine) but I want the background colour to be the same red as the navigation is across the whole page. It does in IE, but not in Firefox or Opera and I'm at a loss as to why. I origin

Re: [css-d] looking for Suggestions/Gotcha's to avoid for a multi-stylesheet template type site.

2006-03-07 Thread Lorin Rivers
Here are a few things I'd recommend: Check your stuff in IE as you go along Avoid hacks (instead use conditional comments such as: instead Backup often &/or use source control For me, the hardest thing to get my head around was positioning & floats it's worth it though...

[css-d] Simple CSS Question?

2006-03-07 Thread Daniel Patterson
Hey there, I'm new. Could somebody check out http://www.shopperschoice.com/ for me. The problem I'm having is that the page jumps down to the bottom when you resize below 800x600 in Internet Explorer. Please check out the CSS and let me know what I'm doing wrong here, thanks! Daniel Patterson _

Re: [css-d] Layout Errors

2006-03-07 Thread Els
Roy Anger wrote: > I am working on site and testing it in Linux Firefox, Windows > IE 6, Windows Firefox and Windows Opera. The current layout > has errors in Opera. Essentially in Opera when I add in the > site logo image at the top, the main container seems to shift > down several pixels and it

[css-d] looking for Suggestions/Gotcha's to avoid for a multi-stylesheet template type site.

2006-03-07 Thread Dale Lists
Hello, I have done a few projects with css, but still consider myself a moderate beginner with especially css2. I have finally convinced the other people where I work to embrace css2 for a couple of specific projects. This is the reason for my question/request for recommendations/suggestions.

Re: [css-d] Table widths not the same with image in td

2006-03-07 Thread Adam Kuehn
At 04:21 PM 3/7/2006, Scott Haneda wrote: > >Top table, has an image in it 728px wide, with a 3px border You have declared the table width at 728px and the contained image width at 728px in inline declarations. Because the image width is declared in the mark

Re: [css-d] Table widths not the same with image in td

2006-03-07 Thread Don - htmlfixit.com
Scott Haneda wrote: > > Top table, has an image in it 728px wide, with a 3px border > > Bottom table is the same spec, but no image, yet it is narrower. This seems > to happen in Safari and FF on the mac, I can not test other browsers. > > How can I make the

[css-d] Pure CSS tooltips

2006-03-07 Thread Lorin Rivers
I've looked at a bunch of the css tooltip sites and the archives and I have a workaround for this problem, but perhaps someone has a suggestion on how to achieve what I really want... === CSS: /*shout out to http://mikezilla.html*/ a.popup span { display: none; } a:hover.popup span { display: blo

[css-d] Layout Errors

2006-03-07 Thread Roy Anger
I am working on site and testing it in Linux Firefox, Windows IE 6, Windows Firefox and Windows Opera. The current layout has errors in Opera. Essentially in Opera when I add in the site logo image at the top, the main container seems to shift down several pixels and it moves out of alignment

[css-d] Table widths not the same with image in td

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Haneda
Top table, has an image in it 728px wide, with a 3px border Bottom table is the same spec, but no image, yet it is narrower. This seems to happen in Safari and FF on the mac, I can not test other browsers. How can I make the bottom table match up to the top

[css-d] Calling all Wiki Contributors

2006-03-07 Thread Derek Hansen
This is Derek Hansen from the University of Michigan again (see [1] for my introductory post). I appreciate the warm welcome that I have received and the willingness of many of you to speak with me over the phone. In an attempt to better understand who is editing the wiki (since only IP addresses

Re: [css-d] General font size inheritance question

2006-03-07 Thread Adam Kuehn
Scott Haneda wrote: >I have a table td that has a font size set to .8em, if I put a h1 inside the >td, any font size I set to the h1 will be a percentage of the td's .8. Only if you set the size in ems or percentage. As I recall, IE sets its header default sizes in points, for example, so they w

[css-d] General font size inheritance question

2006-03-07 Thread Scott Haneda
I have a table td that has a font size set to .8em, if I put a h1 inside the td, any font size I set to the h1 will be a percentage of the td's .8. This kinda bugs me, is there some other approach to be able to use consistent font sizes -- -

[css-d] alt stick footer problem in IE

2006-03-07 Thread guwoon
Hi, I've used 'The man in blue" 's Alt Stick Footer technique on this site: http://www.guwoon.nl/caron/index.php and it works fine in Firefox, but IE 6 pushes my footer to far down.. I always get a scrollbar and the footer disappears under the browserwindow. Probably doing something stupid, but

[css-d] Contents of 3rd floated column do not show up in IE6

2006-03-07 Thread rev
Hello, This is my first post here so please be gentle. :) I'm having a problem with a CSS layout I started from a "template" I took from here: http://www.fu2k.org/alex/css/layouts/3Col_NN4_FMFM.mhtml The comments in the source file referenced this mailing list so I naturally turned here for hel

Re: [css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread npetersn
Thanks Els! Nate Quoting Els <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Thanks Brett and Els for your quick responses. >> >> I implemented your suggestions and the promotion text area is >> now properly centered. Brett your suggestion to change the >> height to 48px properly tightened

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion SOLVED

2006-03-07 Thread jblanchard
[snip] ...stuff... [/snip] I removed postion: fixed; from #header and it appears to have fixed the problem in FF. In IE it leaves the rightContent div slightly lower than the leftContent div which can either be fixed with a or clear:both (as suggested by Mark). Thanks all! __

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread jblanchard
[snip] There is no guarantee on any public forum that anyone is going to agree with you, or your client, on anything-- least of all, on matters of taste. You post and you take your chances with the replies. As for myself, I feel that the practical use of CSS /sometimes/ needs to be tempered wit

Re: [css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread Els
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Brett and Els for your quick responses. > > I implemented your suggestions and the promotion text area is > now properly centered. Brett your suggestion to change the > height to 48px properly tightened up the gap that I am seeing > on firefox and Safari but still

Re: [css-d] google news layout structure- why is he like this?

2006-03-07 Thread Eric A. Meyer
At 7:34 PM +0200 3/7/06, shlomi asaf wrote: >I've looked at http://news.google.com page code layout, and I've seen >that the page layout is table based. > >the containers are tables, the hidden personalization panels are also >in tables. >most of the page in build using tables. even the pictures a

Re: [css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread Brett Leber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks Brett and Els for your quick responses. > > I implemented your suggestions and the promotion text area is now properly > centered. Brett your suggestion to change the height to 48px properly > tightened up the gap that I am seeing on firefox and Safari but still

Re: [css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread npetersn
Thanks Brett and Els for your quick responses. I implemented your suggestions and the promotion text area is now properly centered. Brett your suggestion to change the height to 48px properly tightened up the gap that I am seeing on firefox and Safari but still exists on IE6. The gap exists right

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread ~davidLaakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Whoa! Gross image? There is some positive re-enforcement there! (FYI, > the image was provided to me, I don't really have a choice on that. And > if I had created the image I would be totally insulted.) > > -- De gustibus non est disputandum. There is no guarantee on a

[css-d] Arrangement Attempt

2006-03-07 Thread nouhad
Hello again :) Here is how the page looks after I applied my CSS Coding to it. CSS Source can be found here . HTML Source can be found here . My mock-up can be found here

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Jared Stein
Yes, I see your point that this is the case for most people with standard OSs and browsers and resolutions, but wouldn't we like to move beyond 72dpi eventually? My own point of view (and this is where my 'logic' comes in) is that higher-res is always better if the software supports it. For ex

[css-d] Menu Position in FireFox OK... IE Not so much

2006-03-07 Thread Keith Kaiser
Please visit http://kaiserklan.com/roundtable/indexcss.php with FireFox or Safari it is very close to what I'm looking for with the exception of the horizontal menu under the banner not being wide enough to hold the search engine. But in IE (of course) it looks like sh... well you know, can anyone

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Howells
> Hmm, maybe it's just me getting old and wanting my text bigger! > > Still one lingering thought: as user displays increasingly become > higher resolution, there certainly will be a point--and I imagine > not too far down the road--where what is currently readable by most > people with the s

[css-d] google news layout structure- why is he like this?

2006-03-07 Thread shlomi asaf
hey guys [i hope this question haven't been asked till now, if so- my apologies.] I've looked at http://news.google.com page code layout, and I've seen that the page layout is table based. the containers are tables, the hidden personalization panels are also in tables. most of the page in build u

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread jblanchard
[snip] I think the problem is that you need to delete that gross image and make believe it never happened. There is no need to re-invent the wheel. There are numerous layouts on the Wiki < http://css-discuss.incutio.com/ >that are known to work. Pick one that suits your need(many of the 3 col la

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread jblanchard
[snip] Sorry, replied a bit too fast there and didn't see the problem with Firefox! Have you read http://css-discuss.incutio.com/? page=EmulatingFixedPositoning which relates to the problems associated with position:fixed? The margin-top on #content doesn't appear in http:// www.sigmaphinoth

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Howells
>> [snip] >> You can't clear an element using position:fixed with clear="all". >> clear="all" (or clear:both in CSS terms) will only clear a float. I'd >> suggest setting the margin-top of #content to the height of #header. >> [/snip] >> >> That doesn't work. It moves content in IE 160px below the

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread ~davidLaakso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I think that the problem is that I am attempting a reasonably complex > layout without all of the CSS knowledge that I need to do so. Can > someone show me the error of my ways? Thanks! Here is the test URL... > > http://www.sigmaphinothing.org/voip.html > > I think

Re: [css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Howells
On 07.03.2006, at 18:10, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > You can't clear an element using position:fixed with clear="all". > clear="all" (or clear:both in CSS terms) will only clear a float. I'd > suggest setting the margin-top of #content to the height of #header. > [/

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Howells
> Good points. One problem I still see, however, is that if you use a > fixed width for text at say, 500px, then on your high res setup the > text is impossibly small, and enlarging the text manually creates > too-large text in too small an area. Not necessarily. Using a commonly used exampl

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Jared Stein wrote: > Folks, let me propose a scenario to you and get your ideas on how > useful/useless you would find it. > ... > My colleague and I have been playing with this concept, and > implementation is possible and pretty straight-forward with a little > Javascript, but I wonder if su

[css-d] 2 column layout confusion

2006-03-07 Thread jblanchard
Howdy gurus, I am still working on the same design and now have a problem with 2 column layout. In FF the tops of the left column and right column are somewhere above the bottom of header. In IE I had to add a

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Mark Howells
> Folks, let me propose a scenario to you and get your ideas on how > useful/useless you would find it. I browse with a 3200x1200 twin monitor setup. If I ever expand the browser window to anywhere near full screen size on one of the monitors, it'd be because there's content clipped at a sma

Re: [css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Els
Jared Stein wrote: > Folks, let me propose a scenario to you and get your ideas on > how useful/useless you would find it. > > As you know CSS 2 allows absolute and relative font sizing. Of > course relative refers to the font size of the parent element, > but I've often found myself pining for the

Re: [css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread Brett Leber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am working on a new layout for a promo/landing type page and am having a > problem figuring out why my promotion text area is not centering properly in > it's content container. The page is here: > > http://www.xmission.com/~npetersn/test/landing_layout.html > > It wo

Re: [css-d] Simple form get trould in IE 6

2006-03-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Dinh wrote: > I have designed a simple css form with 2 div put into a form like > this http://pcdinh.dotgeek.org/css/forms/form3.html > A trouble here is although I try to align a div to the left to allow > the rest div floats to the right, making that form look table-like, I > can not make it w

Re: [css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread Els
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am working on a new layout for a promo/landing type page and > am having a problem figuring out why my promotion text area is > not centering properly in it's content container. The page is > here: > > http://www.xmission.com/~npetersn/test/landing_layout.html > > It wo

[css-d] Alternative font sizing

2006-03-07 Thread Jared Stein
Folks, let me propose a scenario to you and get your ideas on how useful/useless you would find it. As you know CSS 2 allows absolute and relative font sizing. Of course relative refers to the font size of the parent element, but I've often found myself pining for the ability to use a ratio rel

[css-d] Looking for some layout help...

2006-03-07 Thread npetersn
I am working on a new layout for a promo/landing type page and am having a problem figuring out why my promotion text area is not centering properly in it's content container. The page is here: http://www.xmission.com/~npetersn/test/landing_layout.html It works in IE6, but not firefox and safari?

[css-d] Simple form get trould in IE 6

2006-03-07 Thread Dinh
Hi everybody, I have designed a simple css form with 2 div put into a form like this http://pcdinh.dotgeek.org/css/forms/form3.html A trouble here is although I try to align a div to the left to allow the rest div floats to the right, making that form look table-like, I can not make it work on IE

Re: [css-d] Arrangement

2006-03-07 Thread Christian Heilmann
> Hello there :D > I'm having problems arranging stuff here and there :( > My compo is here > Does anyone know how i should arrange the elements keeping in mind min > height to be around 480pixels? This is more of a design than a CSS problem.

Re: [css-d] margin/padding-bottom relative to canvas bottom

2006-03-07 Thread cj
> > the example i linked to doesn't do this? > > No, not precisely. In that example, the footer is positioned "bottom: > 0px" and has a fixed height. On my page, the footer also sticks to the > bottom, but doesn't have a fixed height; instead, the top edge of the > footer is at a fixed distance fr

Re: [css-d] changing/alternating button text

2006-03-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This was it! - neither title nor acronym would fit this situation. Somewhere buried deeply within my notes I have another solution, but this works well - thx, Bob Mike Dougherty wrote: > Are you opposed to using the title attribute? > href='foo.htm'>Contact > > directly changing the text is a

[css-d] changing/alternating button text

2006-03-07 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is there a css way to make buttons/links that change text on hover? say you have a button which would be too wide if you place the entire text on it, so on hover you want alternate text to display. example: Contact Us --> normal state Our Location --> hover state _

[css-d] Arrangement

2006-03-07 Thread nouhad
Hello there :D I'm having problems arranging stuff here and there :( My compo is here Does anyone know how i should arrange the elements keeping in mind min height to be around 480pixels? -- nouhad _

Re: [css-d] floating right with negative right margin in IE

2006-03-07 Thread francky
old9 wrote: >Hi everyone, >[...] >http://qi.jiahui.googlepages.com/nagative.html > >Any further reply would be greatly appreciated. >Thanks! >9. > > Hi Old9, The ... is not in the , and the html-validator mentions a not recognized charset. Maybe this has some influence, or is the same result se

Re: [css-d] simple problem?

2006-03-07 Thread Els
Don - HtmlFixIt.com wrote: > Peter Lloyd wrote: >> Guys, thanks for the suggestions... >> >> The problem with clear: left; used in the main content area >> is that it not only clears the image, but also the bottom of >> the search box in the left-had column! So I guess the >> question then becomes

Re: [css-d] Styling Lists

2006-03-07 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
> I hope someone can pint me in the right direction please. I have this > site: > > > In the footer I have a list but I cannot stop it from placing a styling > element at the start of the list. The validator: [http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.a

Re: [css-d] Styling Lists

2006-03-07 Thread Paul Novitski
At 01:02 AM 3/7/2006, Richard Brown wrote: > > >In the footer I have a list but I cannot stop it from placing a styling >element at the start of the list. I cannot work out how to tell it not >to style the element. If anyone could point me in the right direction >on h

[css-d] Styling Lists

2006-03-07 Thread Richard Brown
Hi Guys I hope someone can pint me in the right direction please. I have this site: In the footer I have a list but I cannot stop it from placing a styling element at the start of the list. I cannot work out how to tell it not to style the element. If anyone cou

[css-d] floating right with negative right margin in IE

2006-03-07 Thread old9
Hi everyone, Here is something based on the "Any Order Columns" technic mentioned in this article: http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/onetruelayout/anyorder (great article indeed) first div in source, at the right side second div in source, at the left side yes it works fine in IE.