Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

No, I overwritten it, just the same name. :) On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > discuss.org] On Behalf Of ray > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:51 PM > > To

Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

ray wrote: > Yeah, I can see the problem. But in most cases we would set a left > margin on the content div to reserve space for the left column, so > this issue may not that important. We would..? I would hardly ever do that... Sorry, but I see no point in looking for the best overall method,

Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of ray > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:51 PM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best? > > Yeah, I can see the problem. But in most cases we

Re: [css-d] List background in IE 6 and earlier and condition comments

It seems it was my stand alone IE that I was testing with afterall, which did not work with conditional comments. I downloaded an installer from elsewhere cited in the book that enables me to install multiple stand alone versions of IE 6, and earlier, all in one installer package, and test res

Re: [css-d] New CSS book

It's a SitePoint book. I have bought it and had a quick read of the PDF version, and like the rest of their books, it looks great. It explores the new CSS table solutions, how to cope with old browsers while doing so, CSs layout, Mulit-column layout, grid positioning and template layout. (I'm getti

[css-d] Pop Up Window image not centered in IE7

In IE7 the pop up window image is shifted to the right so only half the image shows. I am unable to fix it as I don't have IE7 installed and can't check my fixes. I can't view in browsershots.org either, since it has to be "popped up" to see the problem. Here's the link to the page it's popped

Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

Yeah, I can see the problem. But in most cases we would set a left margin on the content div to reserve space for the left column, so this issue may not that important. I think the big problem of this clearing way is that the cleared element would stay below *All* previous floats, see this demo: ht

Re: [css-d] New CSS book

Alan K Baker wrote: > http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780980455229/?CMP=EMC-E2H238907668#top > points to a book "Everything You Know About CSS is Wrong!" > > Has anyone seen this? Is this a ruse by Microsoft to get everyone to > switch to IE8? Comments appreciated before I commit $30. :-) Those wh

[css-d] New CSS book

Hi all. http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780980455229/?CMP=EMC-E2H238907668#top points to a book "Everything You Know About CSS is Wrong!" Has anyone seen this? Is this a ruse by Microsoft to get everyone to switch to IE8? Comments appreciated before I commit $30. :-) Regards, Alan. www.theatr

Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

> On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Serge Krul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > What is the best way of forcing a container box enclose its floats? > > > > From my experience the best way is to use the "easy > clearing " > > technique

Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

I know this way. But it is not appropriate for the columns layout(one or all are float columns), because the cleared element would stay below ALL previous floats. This problem is mentioned at the bottom of that page(easy clearing). Thanks for your reply. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 11:12 PM, Serge Kr

Re: [css-d] Footerstick variation needed

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:13:35 -0700, Debbie Campbell wrote: > I'm using one of the footerstick methods (I forget which one I finally > decided to use - > this one is closest to the effect I want) and I'm having a problem in FF, > IE7, Safari > and Opera. This hasn't been checked in IE6 yet. > >> h

Re: [css-d] page expansion

Thanks Georg for such a thoughtful answer. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:40 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ce Ce wrote: > >> What I am asking is that ideally -- in the past -- we've developed our web >> pages with CSS to expand both horizontally and vertically so that when >> someone

Re: [css-d] page expansion

Ce Ce wrote: > What I am asking is that ideally -- in the past -- we've developed > our web pages with CSS to expand both horizontally and vertically so > that when someone chose a larger font size the page would expand > accordingly. Now that browsers have the ability to "page" zoom > (rather

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Brett wrote: > Georg, > > Thanks. Of course you are right, there are way too many variables to > make every OS and every browser look exactly the same, and it's a > fools dream to attempt it. I really just want to have the text size > a bit closer between the two platforms. Make sure your PC

Re: [css-d] page expansion

Thanks Blake. An interesting link. On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Ce Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Now that > > browsers have the ability to "page" zoom (rather than just text zoom) is > the > > importance of horizontal and v

Re: [css-d] Naming conventions

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of Tim Offenstein > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:30 PM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: [css-d] Naming conventions > > A general question: is it a really bad idea to use de

Re: [css-d] page expansion

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Ce Ce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that > browsers have the ability to "page" zoom (rather than just text zoom) is the > importance of horizontal and vertical expansion a moot point? http://bryanrieger.com/issues/mobile-screens-and-pixel-sizes/ Desktop browsers

Re: [css-d] page expansion

What I am asking is that ideally -- in the past -- we've developed our web pages with CSS to expand both horizontally and vertically so that when someone chose a larger font size the page would expand accordingly. Now that browsers have the ability to "page" zoom (rather than just text zoom) is the

[css-d] Naming conventions

A general question: is it a really bad idea to use default HTML selectors as ID names in CSS. For instance I'm evaluating a site where they've designated an ID as "body" and I've seen similar examples elsewhere. I always advise against this simply for clarity sake but wondered if there were mor

Re: [css-d] page expansion

Ce Ce wrote: > These days with the ability of most modern browsers to "zoom" in on an > entire page (rather than just a text zoom), is it worth it to use ems or > percentages rather than pixels for element and text sizing? If pixels are > the most consistent measurement and not subject to inheritan

Re: [css-d] page expansion

Ce Ce wrote: > These days with the ability of most modern browsers to "zoom" in on an > entire page (rather than just a text zoom), is it worth it to use ems > or percentages rather than pixels for element and text sizing? This is a design decision rather than practical CSS authoring (which we tr

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Brett wrote: > David, > > Yes, both of the browsers are set to display the "normal" text size. > > Then I suppose the good news is it is highly unlikely any user will be running around with a pixel ruler comparing the page's font sizes among operating systems or even among browsers on the sa

Re: [css-d] List background in IE 6 and earlier and condition comments

adamq wrote: > ... > Because IE 6 and earlier does not support the first-child element, > the books recommends to apply a class to the list item to remove the > background image in these browsers. Using conditional comments to > apply this workaround seems best, but I cannot figure out why the > ba

[css-d] page expansion

These days with the ability of most modern browsers to "zoom" in on an entire page (rather than just a text zoom), is it worth it to use ems or percentages rather than pixels for element and text sizing? If pixels are the most consistent measurement and not subject to inheritance -- would it be bes

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

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Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Georg, Thanks. Of course you are right, there are way too many variables to make every OS and every browser look exactly the same, and it's a fools dream to attempt it. I really just want to have the text size a bit closer between the two platforms. I design on a MAC and I try to set text s

[css-d] List background in IE 6 and earlier and condition comments

Hi, I am new to this dicussion board and this is my first question. I'm following a tutorial in a book about creating horizontal navigation. Because IE 6 and earlier does not support the first-child element, the books recommends to apply a class to the list item to remove the background image i

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Brett wrote: > For example, Win2000 in IE6 and FF2.0, both browsers display the text > much larger. > > > > >> In what PC operating system and in what PC browsers and browser >> versions is the text larger than on a Mac? >> >> >> >> >> Is IE/6 set at default (text--size "medium") and Fi

[css-d] Footerstick variation needed

I'm using one of the footerstick methods (I forget which one I finally decided to use - this one is closest to the effect I want) and I'm having a problem in FF, IE7, Safari and Opera. This hasn't been checked in IE6 yet. > http://www.redkitecreative.com/projects/hixon/ The footer's in the positi

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Brett wrote: > Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC > machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to > adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be > done? I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really > need to

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

For example, Win2000 in IE6 and FF2.0, both browsers display the text much larger. David Laakso wrote: > Brett wrote: >> Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC >> machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to >> adjust all text for the PC to bett

Re: [css-d] CSS tables

Blake wrote: > On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Ingo Chao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This will slow down >> "new inventions" a bit - which is good Actually, I said: "... which is good since the "conforming" browsers are not as free of bugs as some may believe." > > What? Restricting innovation

Re: [css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Brett wrote: > Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC > machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to > adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be done? > I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really need to >

Re: [css-d] Ordered and Unordered Lists

Doug Jolley wrote: > Including a 'type="disc"' attribute in an ol element > is undoubtedly going to cause the document to fail validation. No it isn't. Check it. (It passes validation, because the type attribute in is declared as CDATA, which pretty much means "anything goes" as far as validat

[css-d] Define text attributes only for Windows

Is there a way to set text attributes separately for Windows/PC machines? Windows displays text larger than on a Mac so I'd like to adjust all text for the PC to better match the MAC. Can this be done? I have used the underscore _hack to target IE, but I really need to target all PC/Windows

Re: [css-d] Ordered and Unordered Lists

> the distinction clearer by specifiying the available "type" > attributes for both ol and ul. And I think that if you do it with the "type" attribute, you are indeed limited. Including a 'type="disc"' attribute in an ol element is undoubtedly going to cause the document to fail validation. Howe

Re: [css-d] Ordered and Unordered Lists

Drew Trusz wrote: > No an ordered list can't have a "disc" and an unordered list can't be > numbered. Of course they can. Whether you should style them that way is debatable, but surely you can, by the specs and in practice. > When in doubt read the specs: HTML specs only specify a suggested d

[css-d] Pop Up Window image not centered in IE7

In IE7 the pop up window image is shifted to the right so only half the image shows. I am unable to fix as I don't have IE7 installed and can't check my fixes. I can't view in browsershots.org either, since it has to be "popped up" to see the problem. Here's the link to the page it's popped f

Re: [css-d] Ordered and Unordered Lists

Also, going back to its HTML history, screen readers (for the handicapped) recognize the inherent 'orderliness' of a ol, over an ul. IMHO, listing the ingredients needed in a recipe need not have the same precedence as the recipe instructions. Two cents poorer, Keith D.

[css-d] Pop Up Window image not centered in IE7

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Re: [css-d] Ordered and Unordered Lists

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Doug Jolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just noticed that apparently the full spectrum of list-style-types > apply equally to both ordered lists and unordered lists. So, ordered > lists can have a list-style-type of "disc" and unordered lists can > have a list-sty

Re: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > discuss.org] On Behalf Of ray > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:01 AM > To: css-d@lists.css-discuss.org > Subject: [css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best? > > Hi, all > > What is the best way of forcing a contain

[css-d] Is overflow:hidden the best?

Hi, all What is the best way of forcing a container box enclose its floats? clear:both is not good, because it would make the cleared element below all previous floats. It's inappropriate on a column setup layout. I also tested overflow:auto, but in many times an annoying scroll bar appears. How a

Re: [css-d] Strange behavior in Firefox

On Nov 5, 2008, at 20:01 wlb wrote: Thanks to Mustafa and Philippe, my problem is now solved. I added the > overflow:hidden > > to the li and it worked like a charm. > > I guess there is no way to get rid of the red/blue focussing rings > altogether. I thought that "no-decoration" would do it, b

[css-d] Help using the mailing list with Outlook Mail Filtering

This is a meta-css question: :) Any of you are using this mailing list with Outlook and a rule to filter mails from this mailing list ? If so, can you please give me the configurations that work with you. I have tried to make a lot of rules but, the message does not goes out from my main inbox.

[css-d] CSS and cookie

Hello all, I am not sure if this is a HTTP question or a CSS question. The situation : 1) a static HTML page at domain1.com references a CSS stylesheet at domain2.com 2) the user agent has previously received a cookie for the domain2.com domain Questions : will the user agent send the cookie to

Re: [css-d] help for an IE bug

yeah, it works. This is the second bug I encountered whose root cause is the hasLayout problem. What a stupid bug. Thanks. On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ray wrote: > > Look at this page http://www.soundbowl.com/test.html in IE7. The outer >> div ha

[css-d] Firefox Focus prob. solved

Thanks to Mustafa and Philippe, my problem is now solved. I added the overflow:hidden to the li and it worked like a charm. I guess there is no way to get rid of the red/blue focussing rings altogether. I thought that "no-decoration" would do it, but that didn't work. Not a really big deal, but a