At 14:52 +0100 on 09/06/2013, Philip Taylor wrote about Re: [css-d]
html email with css:
What I do think is "pandering to the manufacturers"
is using inline styles because they are too lazy to parse styles found
in the region, repeating styles in inner elements because they
are t
Speak of the devil:
https://twitter.com/meyerweb/status/376053792749268993
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2013-09-06 14:11 (GMT-0400) Tom Livingston composed:
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>> Services I've used, like MailChimp, Campaign Monitor and Marketo force
>> a text version to be made. If y
On 2013-09-06 14:11 (GMT-0400) Tom Livingston composed:
Services I've used, like MailChimp, Campaign Monitor and Marketo force
a text version to be made. If you don't do it, the system will do it
for you (so make sure you check it!).
Would this cover what you speak of Felix?
I suppose. I ra
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2013-09-06 11:50 (GMT-0400) vi...@graymatterstudios.ca composed:
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>> Thanks everyone for all the helpful info and links. I have a lot to
>> read over now.
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> A bit more to consider:
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> 1-Some people set their email readers to force dis
On 2013-09-06 11:50 (GMT-0400) vi...@graymatterstudios.ca composed:
Thanks everyone for all the helpful info and links. I have a lot to
read over now.
A bit more to consider:
1-Some people set their email readers to force display of message body as
plain text. If not sent as MIME to include
Thanks everyone for all the helpful info and links. I have a lot to
read over now.
Vince Mendella, CGD
graymatter studios
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 10:33:54 -0400, Tom Livingston wrote:
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:
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> Chris Rockwell wrote:
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>> If my boss' wife (or one
We can't expect every engineering team to interpret *fluid* standards in
the same way. Progress is being made by the vendors; it may be due to
competition, developer up roars, increasing cooperation between vendors on
working towards standardization, better engineers, or something else, but
it can
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:
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> Chris Rockwell wrote:
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>> If my boss' wife (or one of my freelance clients husbands) views one of
>> our sites on a 2005 laptop and shows him what it looks like in IE7 I
>> don't think "You'll have to file a bug report with Microsoft to
Chris Rockwell wrote:
> If my boss' wife (or one of my freelance clients husbands) views one of
> our sites on a 2005 laptop and shows him what it looks like in IE7 I
> don't think "You'll have to file a bug report with Microsoft to get that
> fixed" is going to fly.
But that is exactly the op
Well, now there I definitely agree with you!
But, I think, in the mean time, if you want the control of CSS (inline
styles), you have to put up with the downsides. I will say to me
repeating on s is the same as having to repeat on s for nested
tables, which, if I remember right, you had to do with
Tom Livingston wrote:
> If I misread your post's intent, then I apologize for my tone.
Your tone was absolutely fine, Tom, and no offense was clearly intended,
nor was any taken. But I do think you may have misunderstood my
message. I am not advocating eschewing media queries, or any similar
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Philip Taylor wrote:
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> Tom Livingston wrote:
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>> I should have mentioned that the inline font styling we do is
>> generally set on the tag. With the possible need to repeat on
>> elements inside the such as s, but it's been a bit since I
>> was in an email so
Tom Livingston wrote:
> I should have mentioned that the inline font styling we do is
> generally set on the tag. With the possible need to repeat on
> elements inside the such as s, but it's been a bit since I
> was in an email so I'm not remembering it all.
>
> Above all, test, test, and th
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Chris Rockwell wrote:
> Thanks for sharing the links Tom, I see some good stuff there. I have found
> (we run seasonal campaigns so it's been a few months) that we still need to
> use the tag, especially for Outlook. I look forward to trying it
> without though.
Thanks for sharing the links Tom, I see some good stuff there. I have
found (we run seasonal campaigns so it's been a few months) that we still
need to use the tag, especially for Outlook. I look forward to
trying it without though.
On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Tom Livingston wrote:
> On
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM, wrote:
> Hi. I have been lurking in this forum for a few years and have learned quite
> a bit from reading the posts. Now I have a question to ask.
>
> I am coding an html eBlast and have most of the CSS as inline but I also have
> quite a bit of css in the head
On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:09 PM, vi...@graymatterstudios.ca wrote:
> Hi. I have been lurking in this forum for a few years and have learned quite
> a bit from reading the posts. Now I have a question to ask.
>
> I am coding an html eBlast and have most of the CSS as inline but I also have
> quite
This might help:
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/guides/mobile
I believe they talk about client support, even if you aren't doing responsive.
I have another page bookmarked and will pass it on when I get in the office.
T
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 5, 2013, at 10:09 PM, vi...@graymatterstudios.
It has been my experience that the non-inline styles are poorly implemented
in email clients, if at all, with Outlook being the worst but Gmail having
some issues as well. For the time being, we use tables and inline styles
for our emails. We use phplist, so I can't speak to why MailChimp is doing
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