Re: [CTRL] bin laden trained at ft benning?

2001-09-18 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 10:55:07 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > anyone have any info on this? (from a message board: http://www.unknowncountry.com/board/): In the text of Linda Moulton Howe's recent report, "Who is Osama bin Laden and What Does He Wan

Re: [CTRL] Second Named Hijacker Alive And Well!!!

2001-09-18 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 8:46:45 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > These reports do not prove or disprove anything, given the possiblity that > Manchurian-candidate clones could have been used in the hijackings. Manchurian candidate clones? Never heard o

Re: [CTRL] offlist [CTRL] Quote From Bill Hicks

2001-09-18 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- LOL! That's Bill Hicks twice tonight. A friend called to say Hicks was on HBO's Comedy Channel tonight. I watched it and taped it - it was great - from a Chicago comedy club in 1991. Samm http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discus

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 9:38:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >S skull and bones international? > >also where else have planes been used for terrorism? Yes, in that their are international memebrs and there is a relationship with DKE which is international. There is talk of

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 9:25:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The military >looks outward with the civilian authorities taking responsibility for >inside the borders. I think this has something to do with posse >comitatus (sp?). No, posse c.. meas that the military may not

[CTRL] Government Has Power To Curb Some Freedoms

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- September 19, 2001 Government Has Power To Curb Some Freedoms By WILLIAM GLABERSON The New York Times The Constitution does not give the government sweeping emergency powers to limit civil liberties. But legal experts say the courts have effectively ceded to the government vas

[CTRL] Fwd: [GATA] Physical demand will break manipulation on Comex

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
'MIDAS' COMMENTARY FOR SEPTEMBER 18, 2001 COPYRIGHT 2001, WWW.LEMETROPOLECAFE.COM By Bill Murphy www.LeMetropoleCafe.com September 18, 2001 Gold $286.50 down 95 cents Silver $4.43 up 6 cents The drama behind the scenes in the gold market has never been more intense. The reckless behav

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] MILLIONS OF SHARES SOLD ON EVE OF DISASTER

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
Mike, I am finding sound evidence supporting several contrary conclusions. The things that support the Bin Ladin theory: 1) The assassination of Bin Ladin's rival 2 days before the WTC. This timing looks suspicious. 2) The stock purchases of Bin Ladin. This tooked to me like the typica

Re: [CTRL] bin laden trained at ft benning?

2001-09-18 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- I doubt it. That was the School of the Americas. I don't think he would have gone there if they invited him. We used to teach pilots from all over the Middle East at Hil AFB, Utah. We had Egyptians, Saudis, Israeli, etc. We taught the about flying. The School of the Americas

[CTRL] stopping "islamic" terrorism

2001-09-18 Thread thew
Title: stopping "islamic" terrorism A big step in stopping terrorism would be taking US troops out of Saudi Arabia. This seems to be a big sticking point with many Islamic fundamentalists, and osama in particular. Rightly or wrongly, they feel we defile the land of the prophet. Short of that

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Bush Attacks [was Bush will get us into a war]

2001-09-18 Thread foxter
l.  Who are you designating as "the rich"? 2.  How many is "many"? 3.  Who are these "many"? 4.  What form(s) did the tax relief take?   I asked you the following: "Also, so what if rich people or if coporations got tax relief?  What is wrong with that?"   Foxter   - Original Messa

Re: [CTRL] Quote From Bill Hicks

2001-09-18 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/18/2001 7:44:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << GO BACK TO BED AMERICA, YOUR GOVERNMENT IS IN CONTROL AGAIN. GO BACK TO BED AMERICA... YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU... YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU... BILL HICKS (1961-19

Re: [CTRL] 'New war' to be fought with unprecedented secrecy

2001-09-18 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/18/2001 7:21:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << WASHINGTON (CNN) -- America's "new war" against terrorism will be fought with unprecedented secrecy, including heavy press restrictions not seen for years, Pentagon sources said Monday.

Re: [CTRL] First we crippled the CIA. Then we blamed it.

2001-09-18 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 09/18/2001 6:23:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << In fact, the CIA is a government agency, subject to the political whims of whoever sits in the White House and Congress. The CIA does what the government of which it is a part tells it

Re: [CTRL] The Harm Done to Innocents

2001-09-18 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- http://www.boston.com/globe/ The Harm Done to Innocents Chris Toensing, Editor, Middle East Report (MER) Source: MERIP's op-ed from the Boston Globe (page D1, 9/16/2001) In December 1998, I met a waiter in the quiet Egyptian port of Suez. As I sipped tea in his cafe, he pulled

[CTRL] Pravda.RU Bin Laden planning major strike in 2 weeks

2001-09-18 Thread Saba
-Caveat Lector- http://english.pravda.ru/main/2001/06/26/8695.html http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid mat

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread foxter
Unfortunately I was not the author of this. Foxter - Original Message - From: Steve To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5) -Caveat Lector-On 18 Sep 01, at 10:37, foxter wrote:> Or how about

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Bush Attacks [was Bush will get us into a war]

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- If you don't have time to keep up with current events in politics, I don't have time to do your research for you? Where have you been in the last few months? Steve On 18 Sep 01, at 23:37, foxter wrote: > I don't find objective indication/evidence that > "Many of the rich got m

Re: [CTRL] Geography is Taliban's best defence

2001-09-18 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- Our policy is simple when our official enemy was communism we gave money to anyone who hated communists - regardless of what sort of murderous beasts they might have been. when out enemy is drugs, we will give money to anyone who helps destroy drugs, even if they are the taliban

[CTRL] Nightmare Of Peace & Prosperity Finally Over

2001-09-18 Thread radtimes
-Caveat Lector- From the Onion, shortly after the Inauguration Bush: 'Our Long National Nightmare Of Peace And Prosperity Is Finally Over' http://www.theonion.com/onion3701/bush_nightmare.html WASHINGTON, DC -- Mere days from assuming the presidency and closing the door on eight years of

[CTRL] The Islamic Legitimacy of The "Martyrdom Operations"

2001-09-18 Thread thew
Title: The Islamic Legitimacy of The "Martyrdom Operations" http://www.islam.org.au/articles/16/martyrdom.htm -- -- -- -- -- - -- - -- -- - -  - - -- --- -- - - - - -- - - - -- -- - -- - Never wear your best trousers when you go out to fight for freedom and truth.

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Bush Attacks [was Bush will get us into a war]

2001-09-18 Thread foxter
To answer your question, I do not see any "treachery" in Bush so I can't answer you accurately.  What is his "treachery"?   Thanks for answering my questions.  I don't agree with most of  what you say.  I don't find objective indication/evidence that "Many of the rich got millions in tax re

Re: [CTRL] Geography is Taliban's best defence

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Sep 01, at 23:32, flw wrote: > The irony is that in the 1980s America was on the same side as Bin Laden and the >Islamic fundamentalists when > they battled against Soviet invaders. How many more wars will we have to fight to remove leaders backed by previous US foreign p

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- IS skull and bones international? also where else have planes been used for terrorism? Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.

[CTRL] Partytime in Palestine

2001-09-18 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- From http://electronicintifada.net/coveragetrends/rejoicing.html }}}>Begin The Palestinian people, as a whole, portrayed as supportive of the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon Written by Nigel Parry 12 September 2001 -- Yesterday and today, following the inhumane

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- I hear the march of McCarthyism coming this way. Are you a real American? Give me a break! Steve On 18 Sep 01, at 20:57, tnohava wrote: > All this is, is more political rhetoric on the loss of the Gore election. > Beat up Bush all you can because it doesn't mean a damn thing.

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 4:21:59 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Absolutely. With the kinds of sophisticated optical devices now available, > >these observers could spot incoming aircraft from miles away. However, >I > >agree...the decision to fire or not to fire would be a weig

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Sep 01, at 10:37, foxter wrote: > Or how about one of those misnamed "suitcase nukes"? OK. Let's consider that > scenario. Suitcase nuke goes off in a major US city, doing massive damage, > albeit in an extrememly limited area (approx. 1 mile radius). Fallout is > min

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Euphorian
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Sep 01, at 15:37, Samantha L. wrote: > the > Strategic Air Command would blow us out of the sky. Question: Where was the > SAC last Tuesday morning? SAC hasn't been around for about ten or so years. Except as a Rock Hudson movie. And anyway, they wouldn't have been the o

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Sep 01, at 9:48, Don Capps wrote: > Oh brother. Here we go. Possible nuclear war with just WHO Steve??? A bunch > of Afghani herdsmen with AK-47's? Please. Granted, great guerilla fighters > they may be. But nuclear capability? C'mon. That's a stretch, even by the > incredi

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Sep 01, at 19:29, Don Capps wrote: > Nonetheless, I can > also assure you that whatever else might transpire as a result, such an act > would spell the absolute END of the entire Arab world. The Western nations, > for right or wrong, better or worse, would obliterate them c

Re: [CTRL] Anti-Bush Attacks [was Bush will get us into a war]

2001-09-18 Thread Steve
-Caveat Lector- On 18 Sep 01, at 11:14, Don Capps wrote: > Don here...just checking in from Right Wing Nationalist Central. > > Sorry to burst your bubble here...but just what "treachery" are you > referring to? Documentation please? Or is that too much to ask of you? I think the facts speak fo

[CTRL] Revolutionaries who reject their privileged youth

2001-09-18 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- THE TELEGRAPH Revolutionaries who reject their privileged youth By Patrick Bishop in Amman (Filed: 19/09/2001) THEY call the huge span joining the mainland of Saudi Arabia to the small Gulf state of Bahrain Johnny Walker Bridge. For the Saudi males who cross it at weekends, it is

[CTRL] bin laden trained at ft benning?

2001-09-18 Thread e
anyone have any info on this? -- ..·´¯`·.¸ ><º> .·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ <º>< .·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸ ..·´¯`·..·´¯`·.¸ ><º> .·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸ ·.¸.·´¯`·.¸ ><º> I had an interesting encounter yesterday. While biking home from the peace demonstration, I came across four ROTC officers loa

[CTRL] First we crippled the CIA. Then we blamed it. j2

2001-09-18 Thread Nurev Ind.
-Caveat Lector- Bill Richer wrote: > > -Caveat Lector- > > WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! > > How We Got Here > First we crippled the CIA. Then we blamed it. > > BY TOM CLANCY > Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:01 a.m. EDT > > We know now that Ameri

[CTRL] Geography is Taliban's best defence

2001-09-18 Thread flw
-Caveat Lector- THE TIMES 19 SEPT. 2001 Geography is Taliban's best defence Afghanistan's harsh terrain and guerrilla fighters have thwarted attempts by superpowers, both ancient and modern, to seize control. Afghanistan's jagged mountains and deep caves are perfect territory in which to fight

[CTRL] Fwd: Waltzing Matilda

2001-09-18 Thread Saba
Well before they ban this song which is one of my favorites - lets hear it one more time. Always liked that "you'll never take me alive" said he - equates to the old gan movies "You'll never take me alive ooppers".maybe an Osama sitting in a cave somewhere humming his last rites? Saba Nice

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-18 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- the root cause of terrorism is perceived inequities in the way people live. Free your mind and your ass will follow. St George NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.ne

Re: [CTRL] Inconsistancies with media reporting on Islam

2001-09-18 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- a source for this? Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate William of Occam NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > From: Bill Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [CTRL] How Clinton [the rapist] Shielded Afghanistan

2001-09-18 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- if you read this - what it says is that because A) the taliban are not recognized as an official state government and B) the recognized govt. of Afghanistan isn't sponsoring terrorism they could put Afghanistan on a list of nation that sponsor terrorism in order to do so we wo

Re: [CTRL] How Clinton [the rapist] Shielded Afghanistan

2001-09-18 Thread thew
-Caveat Lector- um - who did clinton rape? -- -- -- -- -- Planet spins - so do I neo-sufi wisdom NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE on-line: http://home.earthlink.net/~thew > From: Archibald Bard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To

[CTRL] Its the End of the World as Clear Channel Knows It

2001-09-18 Thread radtimes
-Caveat Lector- It's the End of the World as Clear Channel Knows It By Eliza Truitt Sept. 17, 2001 On Thursday of last week Clear Channel Communications, a company that owns and programs air time at over 1,000

[CTRL] Fwd: Mind Control Techniques * David Icke E-Magazine Mind Control Archives

2001-09-18 Thread Saba
Somebody wanted something on IckesI am not that famliar with his work, but in looking for kamikazi and sleepers and moles in tunnels - I ran across this. Saba http://www.davidicke.net/mindcontrol/research/re013100a.html

[CTRL] Be careful

2001-09-18 Thread magnetic field
I play the free lottery sites on the internet just to kill time. I have never seem so much stomach turning jibberish in my life. Everyone and their brother-in-law has a site with flags and assorted patriotic trappings and a paragragh or two about how terrible it all is. Be careful who you do

[CTRL] MUSLIM ULEMA IN AFGHANISTAN: ""Even if the whole of Afghanistan is devastated we won't hand him over until there is a solid proof against him" (fwd)

2001-09-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Assalamu'alaikum, Defiant Taliban hit back as clerics stand by bin Laden KABUL, Sept 18 (AFP) - http://english.hk.dailynews.yahoo.com/headlines/world/afp/article.html?s=hke/headlines/010918/world/afp/Defiant_Taliban_hit_back_as_clerics_stand_by_bin_Laden.html Afghanistan's rul

Re: [CTRL] Remembering Woodrow Wilson's Reign Of Terror In Defense Of Freedom

2001-09-18 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- I became a scholar of WWI political and social repression in the U.S. back in highschool, during the height of the Vietnam War; I had a termpaper due for a class in U.S. History, taught by someone who equated dissonance with treason...like most of his generation, he was not shy in

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 6:50:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The targets were undefended on purpose. >> Explain, please BHoward http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing prop

Re: [CTRL] Petition

2001-09-18 Thread lassey
-Caveat Lector- Send this to Osama, not Bush. On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 12:07:25 +0200 "Mrs. Jela Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - Original Message - > From: Toupadakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 6:13 AM > Subject

[CTRL] Fwd: Who Harbored, Trained and Fed Them?

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
³...two of the hijackers were former Saudi fighter pilots who had studied in exchange programs at the Defense Language School at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas and the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama...² Los Angeles Times September 15, 2001 NATION MOBILIZES

[CTRL] How Clinton [the rapist] Shielded Afghanistan

2001-09-18 Thread Archibald Bard
-Caveat Lector- NewsMax.com How Clinton Shielded Afghanistan John L. Perry, NewsMax.com Sept. 18, 2001 Why wasn't Afghanistan on the list of terrorist-sponsoring "rogue states"? The answer in three words: William Jefferson Clinton. During his presidency, Clinton consistently kept Taliban-contr

[CTRL] These Color's Con't Run.....

2001-09-18 Thread Saba
http://www.worldstallest.com/94.html

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Kris Millegan
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 3:05:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Wrong. He is still getting his team in place. > >The military were presented with a situation that they have not faced before. >Terrorists using commerical aircraft as missiles. The reports I have read >all >indica

Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Shoot The Neighbor's Cat

2001-09-18 Thread Dale Stonehouse
No, but I can say "when labeling begins, thinking stops." Then again fascist thinking cannot be reasoned with, either from LaRouche or his critics: same animal, different side of the ark. I guess LaRouche must be discredited because his fascism is more intelligently thought out than most and thus

Re: [CTRL] Terror campaign was meant to last days, senator says (fwd)

2001-09-18 Thread Xxx Yyy
-Caveat Lector- FYI The local NBC broadcasting station in Seattle (KING) during today's early morning news, briefly announced that the local country health department serving the greater Seattle area, wanted anyone suspecting exposure to chemical or biological attack to immediately contact th

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 4:21:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > After the collapse of the soviet union, weapons grade plutonium, was reported to be less heavily guarded than potatoes. There have also already being reports the Bin Laden's organisation has as many as 20 tac

Re: [CTRL] A Reichian Perspective on the Events of 11 September

2001-09-18 Thread Mark McHugh
-Caveat Lector- Dr Chris R Tame wrote: > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark McHugh > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > > > >Something from the Quantum Psychology list. > > Can you provide the details of this list? Sure, Chris. Here' the URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quant-psych It's a

Re: [CTRL] Second Named Hijacker Alive And Well!!!

2001-09-18 Thread Dale Stonehouse
These reports do not prove or disprove anything, given the possiblity that Manchurian-candidate clones could have been used in the hijackings.   William Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://www.manartv.com/ Second Saudi Named by FBI as one of the Hijackers Is Alive, Well

[CTRL] Taliban attack 1 yr old?

2001-09-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Assalamu'alaikum US 'planned attack on Taleban' By the BBC's George Arney http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/south_asia/newsid_155/1550366.stm A former Pakistani diplomat has told the BBC that the US was planning military action against Osama Bin Laden and the Taleban

[CTRL] Inconsistancies with media reporting on Islam

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- Over the psst several days I have been listening to the Islamic leaders tell us that Islam is a religion of peace and how they do not believe in violence against anyone. This does not mesh with what the media has been reporting over the past several years. The Egyptian Coptic Chu

Re: [CTRL] Marrs- Follow The Money...

2001-09-18 Thread Linda Minor
-Caveat Lector- http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan.html December 2000 Afghanistan Fact Sheet The information contained in this report is the best available as of December 2000 and can change. GENERAL BACKGROUND Afghanistan's significance from an energy standpoint stems from its geographica

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Xxx Yyy
-Caveat Lector- In way of response ... report posted on www.drudgereport.com earlier this morning. Just adding as info to this concern. R 09/18/01 -...On possible suitcase n. weapons lurking in the background of the 911 attacks and influencing Bush's response and subse

[CTRL] Terror campaign was meant to last days, senator says (fwd)

2001-09-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0109180319sep18.story >From the Chicago Tribune Terror campaign was meant to last days, senator says Comments made after CIA briefing By Mark Schlueb. Special to the Tribune. Mark Schlueb is a staff writer for the Orlando Senti

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-18 Thread tnohava
-Caveat Lector- What in the hell does tax cuts and economics, Social Security and Medicare have to do with Bush and the populace seeking retribution and a stop to the root cause of Global Terrorism??? All this is, is more political rhetoric on the loss of the Gore election. Beat up Bush all you

Re: [CTRL] Marrs- Follow The Money...

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Reilly
Are there any books that anyone knows of that support this theory? -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paul ReillySent: 19 September 2001 01:19To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [CTRL] Marrs- Follow The Money...

Re: [CTRL] Bush will get us into a war!

2001-09-18 Thread tnohava
-Caveat Lector- If you're only asking questions then why does the subject title say "Bush will get us into war!"? That's a statement and certainly not a question. > -Original Message- > From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [CTRL] Marrs- Follow The Money...

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Reilly
Now thats more like it...   Much more believable than anything else I've heard.   : )   Paul -Original Message-From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William ShannonSent: 19 September 2001 01:18To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [CTRL] Marr

[CTRL] Marrs- Follow The Money...

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.rense.com/general13/moom.htm Follow The Money!! - New Pipeline To Tap The Caspian Sea Gas Bonanza From Jim Marrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9-18-1 "The 48-inch diameter pipeline will extend 790 miles (1,271 kilometers) from the Afghanistan-Turkmenistan border, generally follow the Herat-to

[CTRL] Prejudice In Pakistan

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://msnbc.com/news/629231.asp?cp1=1 Prejudice In Pakistan Why is Islamabad reluctant to pressure neighboring Afghanistan into turning over Osama bin Laden? By Rod Nordland NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE Sept. 14—  When I got Maj. Gen. Hamid Gul on the telephone at his hom

Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Shoot The Neighbor's Cat

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
In a message dated 9/18/01 6:44:33 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: C'mon LaRouche...how about some documentation to back this outlandish claim? If I'm understanding him correctly, he's saying that our own people trained men of Middle Eastern descent to pull this off for them.

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Reilly
-Caveat Lector- > > Bin Laden is reported to have as many as 20 tactical > nuclear weapons. > > Rumored Paul. There have been no concrete reports of this. I dont believe anyone would say balls to the US like they did on the 11th without nuclear back up to deal with the response. > And I never

[CTRL] Quote From Bill Hicks

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
GO BACK TO BED AMERICA, YOUR GOVERNMENT IS IN CONTROL AGAIN. GO BACK TO BED AMERICA... YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU... YOU ARE FREE TO DO AS WE TELL YOU... BILL HICKS (1961-1994)

Re: [CTRL] LaRouche- Shoot The Neighbor's Cat

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
> The United States has been surprised by a mass-murderous attack from rogue forces deployed from within the U.S.A. itself. Since no foreign power has the ability to do to us what was done this past Tuesday, some rogue element operating within our military-security establishment is the only

Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd) - belated

2001-09-18 Thread Saba
-Caveat Lector- Well that is nice they changed their policies? Hey, they get US contracts, let them fly US flag - what flag would they prefer be flied - the Jolly Pirate? Saba http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Paul Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bin Laden is reported to have as many as 20 tactical nuclear weapons. Rumored Paul. There have been no concrete reports of this. > Consider this...20 low-yield nukes go off in major cities around the world. After seeing what effect a th

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
Again you fail to mention ending aid to Israel posthaste! Bill.

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Paul Reilly
-Caveat Lector- > << US respond with nuclear weapons, what good does that > > do, the game is already over. >> > > So, whats the answer? "Meme warfare" - as Chris Case so eloquently put it on another list. We need to create an idea virus that spreads exponentially throughout the english speek

[CTRL] Remembering Woodrow Wilson's Reign Of Terror In Defense Of Freedom

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.lewrockwell.com/stromberg/stromberg18.html Remembering With Astonishment Woodrow Wilson’s Reign of Terror in Defense of "Freedom" by Joseph R. Stromberg Wilson’s New Freedom Replaces the Old Ones Any standard US history text will at least mention, in passing, the suppression of A

[CTRL] The Situation With Afghanistan (fwd)

2001-09-18 Thread RevCOAL
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:09:16 -0400 Dear Friends - I am forwarding this message to you all as it put our current situation in a different perspective for me. In all honesty, I wish I had the answers, but I dont. I do what I can, you

Re: [CTRL] BBC confirms 1991 footage was used on "celebrating" Palestinians (...

2001-09-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- I don't know of any apart from perhaps contacting ININ itself and asking them the same questions you asked below On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Samantha L. wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 9/18/01 4:08:23 PM Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The url i

[CTRL] Fwd: Abdul Abulbul Amir

2001-09-18 Thread Saba
Hey Don Capps since you are into music pilfering, surely you know the old songskind of like the story of Benhadad in the bible? As for the letter you did not understand surely you cannot know much about anything to do with conspiracy - for Goebells mentioned in the quantrain was a Govenor of

[CTRL] Mood Changes on Immigration (fwd)

2001-09-18 Thread Yardbird
-Caveat Lector- Excerpt: "We have known for a long time that we have an immigration problem here that is being taken advantage of by terrorists," said Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.). "The reality is, we have never paid as much attention to that as we should." [Note: Immigrants who legally move to thi

Re: [CTRL] U.S. Flag Offensive? (fwd) - belated

2001-09-18 Thread Jon B.
I live in Central Florida and heard on local talk radio earlier in the week that NCCI has already apologized for and changed their policies regarding the American flag.  Let's not badger them unneccessarily. In a message dated 9/17/01 10:46:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Strategic Air Command

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Bill Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Like the Civilian Observer Corps of WWII and the Korean war? Yes. > During those times they were dealing with slow moving aircraft so things would have to bespeeded up now that we are dealing with aircraft that do 600 mph at tree top le

[CTRL] Second Named Hijacker Alive And Well!!!

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.manartv.com/ Second Saudi Named by FBI as one of the Hijackers Is Alive, Well A Saudi pilot named by Washington as one of the suspects in last week’s plane bombings is alive and well and living in Tunisia. The London-based Asharq al-Awsat paper said on Tuesday that Said Hussein al-

Re: [CTRL] nukes

2001-09-18 Thread Don S. Brown
Hello All, Well as a newbie here I will throw my hat in the ring of opinions as to what the answer is.  Or rather some answers. 1) Open forum on foreign policy 2) acquire some sort of integrity in reporting so Americans can make informed decisions. 3) Quit wasting intelligence assets tied up in do

Re: [CTRL] September 11...(5)

2001-09-18 Thread Don Capps
-Caveat Lector- From: "Paul Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > After the collapse of the soviet union, weapons grade plutonium, was reported to be less heavily guarded than potatoes. There have also already being reports the Bin Laden's organisation has as many as 20 tactical nuclear devices. I perso

[CTRL] Anti-war actions...(1)

2001-09-18 Thread radtimes
-Caveat Lector- [multiple items] -- 500 gather to mourn, urge peace in demonstration at UW campus By STEVEN WALTERS of the Journa

[CTRL] Alleged: US Air Force Intelligence claims US government factions involved in 911

2001-09-18 Thread Ecotoday
-Caveat Lector- CAVEAT LECTOR: FROM TOPVIEW 911 Updates: http://www.ecologynews.com/cue43.html >From World-Action list: 9.13.01 AF INTEL SOURCE: PRO-BUSH GOVERNMENT FACTIONS ABSOLUTELY BEHIND TUESDAY'S MASS DEVASTATION Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling, Editor,

[CTRL] Interesting Perspective On The U.S. Conspiracy

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/america/usa/091801g.html INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE ON THE U.S. CONSPIRACY Dear Friends, I have always reserved this email list for information related to low frequency active sonar. Today, however, is a very different day in so many ways that I have decided to

[CTRL] Did US Air Emergency Procedure Aid Hijackers?

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/57/21709.html Did US air emergency procedure aid suicide hijackers? By Thomas C Greene in Washington Posted: 17/09/2001 at 19:17 GMT During last Tuesday's suicide attacks in New York and Washington, the US Department of Defense (DoD), the North American Air

Re: [CTRL] Death by liberal

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Howard
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 3:16:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I hope, now, we will realize that combating terrorism with feel-good, symbolic gestures won't work. Perhaps a significant number of our citizens are fooled, but the terrorists are smart. They laugh at our feebl

[CTRL] Sen. Torricelli Played Key Role in Closing Down CIA Ops

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Sen. Torricelli Played Key Role in Closing Down CIA Ops Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com Tuesday, Sept. 18, 2001 WASHINGTON - Sen. Robert Torricelli, D-N.J., led congressional efforts in the mid-1990s that hand

[CTRL] LaRouche- Shoot The Neighbor's Cat

2001-09-18 Thread William Shannon
http://www.larouchespeaks.net/pages/lhl_shoot_the_cat_0915.htm "SHOOT THE NEIGHBOR'S CAT!" by Lyndon LaRouche, Jr. September 15, 2001 The following release was issued Sept. 15 by LaRouche in 2004, the committee of the campaign for the Democratic nomination of Lyndon LaRouche for President of the

[CTRL] Graham: Terrorists didn't reach all targets

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Graham: Terrorists didn't reach all targets By Mark Schlueb, Christine Shenot and Jon Seinman | Sentinel Staff Writers Posted September 18, 2001 Email this story to a friend Printer friendly ve

Re: [CTRL] BBC confirms 1991 footage was used on "celebrating" Palestinians (...

2001-09-18 Thread Samantha L.
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 9/18/01 4:08:23 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The url is at http://forums.prospero.com/id-argument/messages/?msg=6521 > > We hope it remains on the page. I couldn't find this post by Grossman, and I couldn't find any way to contact h

[CTRL] The War Began When Clinton Sided with Osama bin Laden

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! The War Began When Clinton Sided with Osama bin Laden Are we Finally Switching Sides with George W. Bush as Commander-in-Chief? By Mary Mostert, Analyst, Banner of Liberty (www.bannerofliberty.com) Se

[CTRL] Clinton Destroyed America's National Security, the Coed Warrior's Says

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Clinton Destroyed America's National Security, the Coed Warrior's Says Not the First Time an Act of War was Committed Against us September 14, 2001 Editor's Note, Kate Aspy, a U.S. Army veteran has sp

Re: [CTRL] more on Afghanistan and the US

2001-09-18 Thread Smart News
-Caveat Lector- Hi ! These urls have more on the recent history of afghanistan and our involvement in the creation of the current government there. Sincerely, Neil This may be heavy for survivors of abuse, including the graphics. http://www.comebackalive.com/df/dplaces/afghanis/ Afghanist

[CTRL] 'New war' to be fought with unprecedented secrecy

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! 'New war' to be fought with unprecedented secrecy September 18, 2001 Posted: 1:03 PM EDT (1703 GMT) By Jamie McIntyre CNN Washington WASHINGTON (CNN) -- America's "new war" against terrorism will be

[CTRL] Fearing Retaliation, Thousands in Afghanistan Flee

2001-09-18 Thread Bill Richer
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Fearing Retaliation, Thousands in Afghanistan Flee NewsMax.com Wires Wednesday, Sept. 19, 2001 UNITED NATIONS - Thousands of residents in Afghanistan are continuing to evacuate the cities for rural are

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