Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2018-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.: > > However, whether to ship akonadi trunk/beta/final of the next version > > is another question which is still open. In my opinion, Akonadi > > itself is > > > > pretty mature so it might be doable. > > I didn't complain well. This is t

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2018-05-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela: > On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote: > > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say: > >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote: > >> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 > >> > coul

Re: What needs to improve in KDE 4?

2018-05-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag 10 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann: > * On 2010 10 May 11:50 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Yes, 4.2 and now 4.4 seem to behave badly without a clean ~/.kde. I > > find that very disturbing and unstable. > > For the record, I had a clean ~/.kde for 4.2 when it hit Sid about a > year ago an

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2018-05-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Modestas Vainius: > Hello, > > On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: [...] > > > YOU assume that your truth is an ultimate one. > > > > Not really. I made objective statement about KMail based on > > observable facts. I also vo

plasma desktop changes positions of widgets after I moved them

2018-05-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Did someone else notice this? https://bugs.kde.org/232171 I wonder if this could be partly debian / ubuntu specific as Bojan commented that he couldn't find it on other distros. But then to what I know Debian and Ubuntu package KDE seperately. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - htt

please no further bug reports about co-installability of plasma/kf5 and kde-l10n-some-language

2016-06-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! I hope this gets through even tough I am not subscribed currently. (I am not interested in any replies, if you have questions, please ask on debian-kde mailing list, thank you.) I may only partly reach the target audience here: Please stop reporting that kf5/plasma5 and kde-10-somelang is

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. Januar 2015, 00:24:06 schrieb Brian: > On Thu 08 Jan 2015 at 22:36:46 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle: > > > Just ensure you're using good security practices - don't allow root > > &

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle: > As for the attacks - I've seen a big uptake in the attacks over the last > couple of weeks. The worst I've seen is > 100 IP's locked out in one 24 > hour period. They are coming from all over the world, although since > there are a

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 8. Januar 2015, 14:20:27 schrieb Jerry Stuckle: > As for the attacks - I've seen a big uptake in the attacks over the last > couple of weeks. The worst I've seen is > 100 IP's locked out in one 24 > hour period. They are coming from all over the world, although since > there are a

Re: Please stop systemd-fsck on _every_ boot!

2015-01-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 22:13:26 schrieb ~Stack~: > In summary: > * I have systemd-fsck disabled just about every damn place I can find to > do so, yet it still runs on boot every time. I see it on the screen and > in the log messages. > * I still can't find where the hell systemd stores the s

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 19:20:20 schrieb Brian: > On Tue 06 Jan 2015 at 19:47:09 +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 21:51:26 schrieb Danny: > > > Hi guys, > > > > > > I am afraid my happiness was short lived. To test if the

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 21:51:26 schrieb Danny: > Hi guys, > > I am afraid my happiness was short lived. To test if the deletion of the > file (and the effects thereof) would be permanent I rebooted the system and > consequently found another file (same size, same random lettering) booted > u

Re: Hard Drive Issues - smartmontools

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 12:21:45 schrieb Jape Person: > Hello, folks! > > Please help me save my old Sony VAIO desktop system. > > I have two very old Sony VAIO systems, one desktop and one > notebook. They have PATA drives. I run Debian testing (updated > every day) on them. They've run t

Re: Have I been hacked?

2015-01-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 20:04:56 schrieb Danny: > Hi guys, Hi Danny! > A while ago I posted a question about SFTP (I think the thread name was > "SFTP Question") about attacks I got against my server after syslog warned > me about an attempted breakin. > > Consequently I installed fail2ban

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 12:39:26 schrieb Laurent Bigonville: > Le Wed, 03 Dec 2014 10:18:36 +0100, > > Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: > > > Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > >

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-03 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 3. Dezember 2014, 08:35:00 schrieb Erwan David: > Le 02/12/2014 23:15, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: > >> On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 > >> > >> Aaron Toponce wrote: > >

Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2014, 18:47:38 schrieb Renaud OLGIATI: > On Tue, 2 Dec 2014 14:22:13 -0700 > > Aaron Toponce wrote: > > > It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about > > > systemd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me > > > this way. > > >

Re: Not this again

2014-11-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 18. November 2014, 00:29:15 schrieb golinux: > UGH! Looks like Gregory Smith has returned with a new handle - > SystemBlues. Does anybody read his swill? No. And I see no point in discussing this here in yet another somewhat systemd related thread. I regularily delete all his mails

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 07:24:04 schrieb Joel Roth: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: > > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > Hi. >

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 > > > > Joel Roth wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > > > > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 22:21:27 schrieb Joel Roth: > Hi list, Hi Joel, > I need larger mouse pointers. > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > to the window manager. > > My first attempt was: Wow, what a cha

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-02 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 2. November 2014, 16:17:05 schrieb Martin Manns: > Dear all Hi Martin, > After switching to systemd, I would like to get back the following > behavior: > > Mount multiple lvm-crypt volumes with password entry on startup. > Mount several loopback devices from files within these volume

Re: Suggestion for systemd and /usr on seperate partition

2014-10-30 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello Hans! Am Donnerstag, 30. Oktober 2014, 10:27:50 schrieb Hans: > Dear maintainers, You only reach the systemd maintainers by pure luck this way. I know one is subscribed to debian-user-german, I am not sure about debian-user. I suggest you use BTS or dig for a debian systemd maintainers ma

Re: Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-27 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Please do not Cc me personally. Hello Lee, Am Montag, 27. Oktober 2014, 00:05:03 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Maybe I failed at avoiding personal attacks, but I still think I didn´t. > > On > > any account, my attempt to bring this upstream did not prod

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 12:34:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 11:37:51 schrieben Sie: > >>> Its Jessie/Sid that are under some circumstances difficult to use > >>> without > >>> s

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Jimmy, Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 09:17:16 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > >>> So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop? > >>> Or something t

Debian and upstream choices (was: Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD)

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie > > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided > > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'l

Debian and upstream choices

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
I understand people creating new threads partly now, as any thread with the magic word list admins seem to put into the thread filter easily Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 13:40:49 schrieb Jochen Spieker: > Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis: > > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usab

Re: Avoiding SystemD isn't hard

2014-10-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 22. Oktober 2014, 07:04:12 schrieb Jape Person: > On 10/21/2014 09:22 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Don Armstrong wrote: > >> On Tue, 21 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >>> which is immediately followed by completely inaccurate information, > >>> including: > >>> > >>> -- > >>>

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Raffaele, Am Dienstag, 21. Oktober 2014, 10:18:49 schrieb Raffaele Morelli: > Here are some interesting things one should be aware of before > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html > > Read enough about but still haven't read something really valuable against > systemd from e

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-10-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 20. Oktober 2014, 19:49:43 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > > So, what would you all propose? For a server? Or for a user desktop? > > Or something that fulfills both scenarios? And why? > > > > Just wondering. > > See above and unless you are a tester or developer you may want to > roll-b

insane hibernation policy (war: Re: All roads to suspend/hibernate lead through systemd?)

2014-10-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Joe, Am Samstag, 18. Oktober 2014, 21:17:48 schrieb Joe: > On Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:44:23 -0500 > > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > No, this is not a troll (seems like that is necessary to state up > > front). I have been experimenting with dropping systemd from my > > laptop running Sid but find tha

Re: how to boot in les than 8 minutes

2014-10-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014, 18:52:41 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel: > hi, > it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1) > has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly > for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown > did n

Re: About chromium in Jessie - "API keys missing" and Clang

2014-10-13 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Florent, Am Montag, 13. Oktober 2014, 09:43:40 schrieb Florent Peterschmitt: > Hello, > > I'm curious about two thing in the chromium browser package in Debian > Jessie: > > - I (we?) get a message about Chromium API keys missing. Does that > avoid Chromium being able to speak with google fo

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-07 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 7. Oktober 2014, 09:28:51 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 10/07/2014 at 02:58 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > > As Don pointed out, it's the threads that have been clipped, as it > > were, not the topics: I think it's probably just as well, as those > > threads themselves were started by either a so

Re: Moderated posts?

2014-10-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, 17:42:14 schrieb Steve Litt: > Hi all, > > Several of my posts to lists.debian.org have not made it to the list, > as defined by both my inbox and the list archive. These posts all had > something in common, and it was *not* swearwords or gratuitous > personal insults.

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 12:51:52 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:09:48 +0200 > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > As far as I remember Lennart or another systemd developers explained > > in detail why it was done this way, and that it can´t be done

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 11:18:22 schrieb Steve Litt: > On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:02:35 +0200 > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 14:51:01 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > > > John Hasler wrote: > > > > Miles Fidelman writes: >

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 07:51:14 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 09/28/2014 at 05:34 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > It may also be true that systemd upstream won´t be willing to > > implement the change you want to see. But if you choose to keep > > your power with

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 12:55:32 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 23:50:45 schrieb Chris Bannister: > > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 > > > > > > Ric Mo

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 23:50:45 schrieb Chris Bannister: > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 09:49:10PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 18:32:38 -0400 > > > > Ric Moore wrote: > > > On 09/27/2014 02:49 PM, lee wrote: > > > > Just ask yourself: Why would someone choose to download

Re: systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 23:21:36 schrieb martin f krafft: > also sprach Steve Litt [2014-09-26 18:26 +0200]: > > If systemd was just a PID1 with the features you enumerate above, > > I'd be dancing in the street, not looking for a way out. > > Beautiful. I had to: > https://twitter.com/ma

Re: About dependency creep

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:00:08 schrieb Peter Nieman: > On 25/09/14 18:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > The KDE project has spent *years* of development to reduce dependency > > creep. > I don't think KDE is the problem here. I don't remember ever having

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 22:41:04 schrieb Reco: > Hi. > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2014 13:02:16 -0400 > > The Wanderer wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fr

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:36:27 schrieb Dan Ritter: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 01:02:16PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA512 > > > > On 09/26/2014 at 12:26 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Sep 20

Re: systemd and server use

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:02:16 schrieb The Wanderer: > > Martin, > > > > I don't think anybody's complaining about those features. Those > > are excellent features that should be done in PID 1. > > Actually, some people (I believe including me) are in fact complaining > about the inclus

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. September 2014, 04:35:03 schrieb lee: > Martin Read writes: > > On 27/09/14 21:04, lee wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=990177 > > > > Your complaint about the interface is reasonable. The systemd > > developers' decision to not change the interface in respo

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:55:36 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Why do I think that you do not want change from the *current* situation? > > Cause what you do, in my oppinion does not facilitate change. > > I think I see why you think so. What

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:13:21 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: > >> On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: > >> > Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince t

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 27. September 2014, 22:04:38 schrieb lee: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: > >> Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers > >> of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of > >> them, so obvious

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 19:08:13 schrieb Ric Moore: > On 09/26/2014 05:08 PM, green wrote: > > Ric Moore wrote at 2014-09-26 14:18 -0500: > >> Change is certainly needed when any pimple face kid can edit and hide his > >> doings from a text log with nano. I think the change is necessary to

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:08:50 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 09/26/2014 at 12:44 PM, Martin Read wrote: > > On 26/09/14 16:09, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> - but the resulting impacts should be taken up with each and > >> every upstream developer? > > > > As far as I can see, the issue that p

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 14:51:01 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > John Hasler wrote: > > Miles Fidelman writes: > >> the technical committee selects takes a vote that essentially imposes > >> systemd on all of the upstream developers and packagers > > > > Where the hell do you get that from? > >

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Miles, Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 11:09:07 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: > >> Martin Steigerwald writes: > >>> Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: >

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 10:43:14 schrieb Andrei POPESCU: > On Vi, 26 sep 14, 01:58:44, lee wrote: > > Again, I consider it to be totally futile to try to convince the makers > > of systemd to fix the issues it brings about. They cannot be unaware of > > them, so obviously they don't want t

systemd and server use (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 22:53:09 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 09/25/2014 at 06:09 AM, martin f krafft wrote: > > But dependency creep is unfortunately nothing new ever since we > > declared next year the Year of Linux of the Desktop and forgot > > that the Universal Operating System s

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 01:58:44 schrieb lee: > >> > Or to *help*. Make a logind that does not depend on systemd. Offer it > >> > to > >> > the upstreams that need it. > >> > >> > >> > >> I'm sure it would be ignored or rejected --- even if I had the knowledge > >> to make anything like th

About dependency creep (was: Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream)

2014-09-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 12:09:20 schrieb martin f krafft: > also sprach lee [2014-09-25 01:45 +0200]: > > Just one day they might wake up and find out that it was a very > > bad idea to depend on systemd, and then it'll be difficult to do > > without. > > That day was yesterday. I'll l

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-25 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: > >> Martin Steigerwald writes: > >> > >> Do you really think they will be able to prevent all the other > >

Re: find

2014-09-24 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2014, 17:29:22 schrieb Gokan Atmaca: > Within a directory backup "tar.gz" files you want to delete older than 1 > day. > > I'm doing this as follows. But do not be. > > find /backup/ +1 -delete -mtime > > Can you help? find /backup -mtime +0 -delete find counts days

Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream (was: Re: There is no choice)

2014-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee: > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee: > >> "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > >> > Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are > >

Re: More FUD for everyone: Computers Are Dangerous! (Users are devs, after all.)

2014-09-23 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 23. September 2014, 11:02:47 schrieb Joel Rees: > There are some people who are trying to squelch conversations on this > list with cries of FUD! FUD! Honestly: I stopped reading there. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 03:41:53 schrieb lee: > "Andrew M.A. Cater" writes: > > Jessie freezes no later than November 5th 2014. Allow folk who are trying > > to work on the distribution to work on it and not to have to intervene in > > this sort of discussion, please. > > Nobody prevents t

Re: There is no choice

2014-09-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 21. September 2014, 08:59:16 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2014 21 Sep 06:52 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > >> The issue of the day (week) on debian-devel seems to be systemd-shim -- > >> which kind of has to work for anyone to use an alternate init system; but

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:13:43 schrieb Hans: > > Hmmm, I see. > > > > I just started the application with auto login and that did still work. > > > > But when I logoff from within the application I cannot login again. > > > > There is lots of binary data in ~/.Skype. > > Yes, but you

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 20:11:44 schrieb Brian: > On Sat 20 Sep 2014 at 20:52:35 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: > > > http://tox.im > > > > > > Free software, decentralized, should do most of

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 21:14:08 schrieb Reco: > Hi. Hi Reco, > On Sat, 20 Sep 2014 18:59:56 +0200 > > Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as > > a router and the connection would be between clie

Re: Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion?

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 19:19:07 schrieb Hans: > > I wonder about a solution I can install on my server. It would just act as > > a router and the connection would be between clients directly. A solution > > that is *fully* and *completely* under *my* control and *will work as is* > > until

Getting rid of that Skype completely and forever with a video chat solution under *my* control, any suggestion? (was: Re: Faking it with skype)

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 17:41:54 schrieb Hans: > > As in the other thread again, it still works here. With version patched > > 4.2. > > > > At least I can see online state of buddies after login in and it does log > > in. > > > > Ciao, > > Did you real disconnect or just close the applic

Re: Faking it with skype

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 22:42:52 schrieb Bret Busby: > On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Saturday 20 September 2014 08:00:16 Bret Busby wrote: > >> On 20/09/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> > On Saturday 20 September 2014 07:32:54 Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> It has just occurred to me - I

Re: Again skype < 4.2 does not connect - new workaround

2014-09-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 20. September 2014, 14:20:59 schrieb Hans: > Hi folks, Hi Hans, > Microsoft again is working against us. They have fixed the version patch. > But don't hesitate: Here is a workaround I figured out. I can still connect. With the same version patches 4.2 skype as before. Maybe was tem

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2014, 11:02:11 schrieb Brian: > On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 11:27:32 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > The following packages will be REMOVED: > Install systemd-shim first. It was installed as I ran the apt commend and it still is, cause if systemd doesn´t bo

Re: Jessie and Systemd integration

2014-09-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. September 2014, 17:16:57 schrieb T.J. Duchene: > I'm asking this on the user list not because I am trying to incite yet > another debate over the merits of Systemd, but because I am assuming that > the user list probably has the best chance of reaching out to the most > people to g

But there is a choice to not use systemd (war: Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community)

2014-09-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 16. September 2014, 08:46:36 schrieb Charlie: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 23:48:02 +0200 Martin Steigerwald sent: > > I have mixed thoughts and feelings about systemd… but on the other > > hand I think discussing this further here… is… a waste of time – as > > it

Re: View on UNIX purism in Linux Community

2014-09-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 15. September 2014, 21:55:29 schrieb Joe: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 20:32:45 +0200 > > Bartosz Olender wrote: > > W dniu 15.09.2014 19:39, Joe pisze: > > > On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 11:07:35 -0400 > > > > > > Doug wrote: > > > > > > > > >> On 09/15/2014 03:31 AM, sa...@eng.it wrote: > > >>> Ba

Re: skype error

2014-09-06 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 6. September 2014, 19:17:52 schrieb Hans: > > > What can be done with this? > > You can try this little hack on the older linux version skype-4.2.: > > - Install the 4.2 package. > - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype > - search for "4.2.0.11" and change this to "4.3.0

Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 16:59:45 schrieb Haines Brown: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 09:03:44PM +0100, Michael Jones wrote: > > New version socks, no audio due to the removal of alsa support > > I have similar problem, no audio with new version. > > So let me ask, did you install pulseaudio and

Re: Got skype 4.2 to connect again

2014-08-19 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 19. August 2014, 18:40:30 schrieb Hans: > Hi folks, Hi Hans! > I managed to get an older version of skype (the multiarch debian package) > getting connected to skype. As you might have noticed, the new version is > pulseaudio needed /what a crap!) and the older version (4.2) inhibits

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-12 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 12. August 2014, 17:48:10 schrieb Michael Biebl: > Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom: > > Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd. > > Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system. Interestingly in the last ten years I have used "halt" exactl

Re: KMail send function defaulting.

2014-08-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 3. August 2014, 23:59:15 schrieb Weaver: > Greetings all, > > I'm running SID, and lately there have been a number of KDE updates. > I find, after last night's updates that KMail's send function doesn't work > anymore. > The message I'm getting from the pop-up is: > > 'Failed to get D

Re: /root is full

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
No need to CC me. I am subscribed Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 14:16:02 schrieb Haines Brown: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 05:08:01PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: […] > > I suggest something like > > > > merkaba:~> du -d 1 -hx / | sort -rh | head -10 > > 20G

Re: /root is full

2014-07-29 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Haines, Am Dienstag, 29. Juli 2014, 09:22:02 schrieb Haines Brown: > This is such a classic problem that I hesitate to raise the > question. The df below shows that the usual suspects for root partition > being full are broken out. The / partition is 500 Mb. In the past I have > only used about

Re: Is "xhost +si:localuser:root" safe?

2014-07-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 22. Juli 2014, 17:48:24 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > To be able to save/restore the XKB keymap in a /etc/pm/sleep.d script > (as a workaround for Debian bug 633849), xkbcomp needs to have access > to the display. The simplest solution I've found is a > > xhost +si:localuser:root > >

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 08:16:57 schrieb Miles Fidelman: > Erwan David wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 10:36:30PM CEST, Jonathan Dowland said: > >> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 03:09:40PM +0200, Erwan David wrote: > >>> Problem is where do we get the knowledge to repair mannually ? I do noit > >>

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-07-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 21. Juli 2014, 07:30:40 schrieb Erwan David: > systemd-shim is no more an option in testing. the whole > systemd with all its bugs (very low shutdown, no suport for > policy-rc.d, etc..) is forced to users. > > It was said that we would have a choice. Were is the choice ? > > Wer

Re: Sid Systemd upgrade

2014-07-20 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 20. Juli 2014, 11:00:15 schrieb David Baron: > How safe are these on new 64bit system (dist-upgraded to Sid)? Which do you mean by "these"? -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 21:23:20 schrieb Erwan David: > >> This does not seem to scale well with different spam/ham token set per > >> user.> > > Huh? Just copy the CRM114 folder to another home and empty the spam/ham > > token files? > > In my setup there are no home dir, no users on server.

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 20:26:57 schrieb Erwan David: > Le 18/07/2014 19:56, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: > >> Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > >>> Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: > > Ahoj, > > > > Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David > > > > napísal: > >> That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends > >> direectly or indirectly on systemd, often w

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:19:21 schrieb The Wanderer: > On 07/18/2014 12:56 PM, Slavko wrote: > > Ahoj, > > > > Dňa Fri, 18 Jul 2014 18:10:58 +0200 Erwan David > > > > napísal: > >> That's quite afalse this... count every package which depends > >> direectly or indirectly on systemd, often w

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: > Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: > >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald > > > > said: > >>>

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:03:20 schrieb Erwan David: > Le 18/07/2014 14:10, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : > > Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: > >> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald > > > > said: > >>>

Re: Copy machine?

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 18:45:13 schrieb Chris: > Dear All, Hi Chris, > is it possible to rsync a virtual machine to a physical machine? > > I've tried this, but only a third of all kernel modules were loaded, > especially the network card driver was missing. > > For the sake of completeness

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 13:55:43 schrieb Erwan David: > On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 01:45:55PM CEST, Martin Steigerwald said: > > Hello! > > > > Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Joche

Re: Replacement for dspam

2014-07-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hello! Am Freitag, 18. Juli 2014, 12:10:44 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > Ok, I already fail at the first step: call crm114 from Postfix so that > > it uses user-specific spam/ham CSS files. My web search suggests nobody > > has ever

Re: install kate (4.13.1 , testing) in debian stable

2014-06-26 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 26. Juni 2014, 18:54:50 schrieb sppmg: > Hi all > > I want install kate 4.13.1 in debian stable, but the kde is 4.8 in > debian stable . > > I followed kate official tutorial (http://kate-editor.org/get-it/) ,and > get source by git and apt-get source. > but I always get 4.8 versio

Re: systemd (was ... Re: Article on swift, responsive computers)

2014-06-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 10:11:00 schrieb Chris Bannister: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 03:33:43PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > For the record I am using systemd without any issues, but then I am > > doing so on desktop systems. I just dislike the increasingly monolithic > > architecture of system

Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space

2014-06-15 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 16. Juni 2014, 05:59:20 schrieb Chris Bannister: > Hi, Hi Chris, > Does this seem necessary? > > root@tal:~# apt-get clean > root@tal:~# df -h > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda536G 34G 266M 100% / > [...] > root@tal:~# apt-get update > Hit http:/

Re: Cron 101: Cron message "/bin/sh: root: command not found"

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 11:53:30 schrieb Ron Leach: > On 11/05/2014 10:48, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Look into > > > > - /etc/cron.d > > - crontab -l > > > > It would not make much sense, but maybe someone added a call to > > /etc/cron.hour

Re: Cron 101: Cron message "/bin/sh: root: command not found"

2014-05-11 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. Mai 2014, 10:37:31 schrieb Ron Leach: > List good morning, Hi Ron, > I do regret asking such a basic question about cron, but I cannot seem > to get rid of what I think is a mis-configured entry, somewhere. > > We have a server running Lenny (still), its role is solely to provide

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