Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-30 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 30/09/2024, Boyan Penkov a écrit: > -- If I have multiple drives, do I modify the script to have multiple > efi2, efi3, ..., efiX ? I think yes. > -- it seems that the script above privileges /boot/efi over /boot/efi2 > -- in this case, if /boot/efi becomes corrupted, won't this just co

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-30 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello folks, Thanks kindly -- and my apologies for picking this up after a while; fell sick here... A few questions: -- If I have multiple drives, do I modify the script to have multiple efi2, efi3, ..., efiX ? -- it seems that the script above privileges /boot/efi over /boot/efi2 -- in this ca

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Florent Rougon wrote: Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a écrit: Because the script will abort after the mount fails. root@dirac:~# cat test.sh #!/bin/bash set -e mount /boot/efi2 echo "do important stuff" root@dirac:~# ./test.sh mount: /boot/efi2: /dev/sda2 already mounted

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a écrit: > Because the script will abort after the mount fails. > > root@dirac:~# cat test.sh > #!/bin/bash > > set -e > > mount /boot/efi2 > > echo "do important stuff" > > root@dirac:~# ./test.sh > mount: /boot/efi2: /dev/sda2 already mounted on /boot/efi2. >d

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Tim Woodall
On Fri, 20 Sep 2024, Florent Rougon wrote: Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a ?crit: Haven't looked at the script but assuming it's run set -e, then your suggestion will fail if it's already mounted. Why? Because the script will abort after the mount fails. root@dirac:~# cat test.sh #!/bin/ba

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-20 Thread Florent Rougon
Le 20/09/2024, Tim Woodall a écrit: > Haven't looked at the script but assuming it's run set -e, then your > suggestion will fail if it's already mounted. Why? -- Florent

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-19 Thread Tim Woodall
On Thu, 19 Sep 2024, Florent Rougon wrote: Hi, Le 19/09/2024, Andy Smith a ?crit: I don't think the answer, on Debian, has changed since I asked the same question in 2020: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/11/msg00455.html There is a script at [1] to install as, e.g.,

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-19 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Le 19/09/2024, Andy Smith a écrit: > I don't think the answer, on Debian, has changed since I asked the > same question in 2020: > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/11/msg00455.html There is a script at [1] to install as, e.g., /etc/grub.d/90_copy_to_boot_ef

Re: Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-18 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 08:21:10PM -0400, Boyan Penkov wrote: > So, what are folks doing these days to mirror /efi and /boot? [ TL;DR: You already found it - have two separate EFI System Partitions, sync one to the other manually using e.g. rsync whenever one changes, add path

Best practice for fresh install on UEFI with multiple disks?

2024-09-18 Thread Boyan Penkov
Hello folks, New machine, new opportunity to get up to speed with the contemporary best practices for multiple disks on UEFI. The behavior I'd like -- and, I suspect, the behavior we'd all like -- is the machine stays bootable and data is preserved if any disk fails. Specifically, what I'd like t

RE: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-09-02 Thread Tsai, Letitia (CW)
install Debian with GUI interface CAUTION: External Email Tsai, Letitia (CW) wrote: > Hi > Not sure which category I should submit so I am writing this letter to gain > your guidance on the issue I encountered. > Hope the information I provided is valid and easy to understand.

Rufus, was: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-08-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > I have used Rufus previously and note Pete Batard's take on this. > Nonetheless, DD mode is *exactly* what you need to make Rufus write > the Debian iso well as far as I understand it. The Debian CD FAQ https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb could need a tangibl

Re: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-08-29 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Aug 29, 2024 at 04:34:21PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Charles Curley wrote: > > I understand that rufus is a CD/DVD burner program for Windows. > > No it is an image copier for hard-disk-like devices, typically USB sticks. > https://rufus.ie/en/ > > > It also offers a "DD

Re: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-08-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Charles Curley wrote: > I understand that rufus is a CD/DVD burner program for Windows. No it is an image copier for hard-disk-like devices, typically USB sticks. https://rufus.ie/en/ It usually unpacks the ISO to a FAT fileystem and installs or modifies the boot loader of the stick so tha

Re: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-08-29 Thread Charles Curley
> [Summary] > Unable to install Debian with GUI interface > > [Steps to reproduce] > 1. Download Image debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso (dated: 2024/8/19 > weekly build : > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/) 2. > Make a boot drive thru Ru

Re: [HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-08-29 Thread Dan Ritter
Tsai, Letitia (CW) wrote: > Hi > Not sure which category I should submit so I am writing this letter to gain > your guidance on the issue I encountered. > Hope the information I provided is valid and easy to understand. > Thank you ! > > [Summary] > Unable to install D

[HP][Debian Strixie] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface

2024-08-29 Thread Tsai, Letitia (CW)
Hi Not sure which category I should submit so I am writing this letter to gain your guidance on the issue I encountered. Hope the information I provided is valid and easy to understand. Thank you ! [Summary] Unable to install Debian with GUI interface [Steps to reproduce] 1. Download Image

(SOLVED PARTIALLY) Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-25 Thread sentiniate
I want to thank Joe B for the suggestion to also install the printer-driver-escpr pkg, and David Wright to whom I want to say that Epson Connect is the app for Smartphones Android that I have used to print in the last few days by transferring files from the PC to the Smartphone. As for Thorsten

RE: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-25 Thread Joe B
Hello, On all the distros I've been on, the driver I needed was part of the epson-inkjet-printer-escpr package. install that close everything go back to cups login add printer once you are there you should be able to see your printer (hopefully network printer) once done then you should be

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-24 Thread David Wright
On Tue 20 Aug 2024 at 17:27:37 (+0200), sentini...@virgilio.it wrote: > > Il 20/08/2024 04:53 CEST David Wright ha scritto: > > > > What's the output from: > > > > $ driverless > > > > (This is normally step one in configuring a printer.) > > aldo@aldomaggi:~$ driverless > ipps://EPSON%20ET-2

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-24 Thread Joe B
Hi James, Did you ever resolve your issue? Did you do the suggestions that Felix pointed out? > You may not need one. What CPU do you have? >lscpu >inxi -S Run these above commands and paste each one here, then report back Joe B

Re: update-alternatives: install with permanent arguments

2024-08-22 Thread Henning Follmann
ines... > > > > > do it manually, not with update-alternatives > > Why so? Could I not feed the script path to update-alternatives install? > > Well, if it works, then I guess it's OK. > Exactly. And if you want it less "hackish", build a deb where t

Re: update-alternatives: install with permanent arguments

2024-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
not feed the script path to update-alternatives install? Well, if it works, then I guess it's OK.

Re: update-alternatives: install with permanent arguments

2024-08-22 Thread Dmitrii Odintcov
Hi Greg, This has occurred to me, but seemed like a bit of a hack and less convenient to transfer to other machines... > do it manually, not with update-alternatives Why so? Could I not feed the script path to update-alternatives install? Thanks On Thu, 22 Aug 2024 at 14:02, Greg Woole

Re: update-alternatives: install with permanent arguments

2024-08-22 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 22, 2024 at 13:09:06 +0300, Dmitrii Odintcov wrote: > Let's say I want to install VS Code / Codium as an alternative for > `/usr/bin/editor`, but I want it to always run with `--wait > --reuse-window` so that other software can rely on the editor > returning after

update-alternatives: install with permanent arguments

2024-08-22 Thread Dmitrii Odintcov
Let's say I want to install VS Code / Codium as an alternative for `/usr/bin/editor`, but I want it to always run with `--wait --reuse-window` so that other software can rely on the editor returning after the file is saved (like `crontab -e` does, for example) I cannot do `update-alterna

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Charles Curley
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 09:37:08 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > FWIW, I have > > MODULES=dep > COMPRESS=lzma > > in `/etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf`, which helps keep the size of > the initrd in check. Indeed. Thank you. Making the first change knocked my initrd from 67M down to about

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
Ruslanas Gžibovskis composed on 2024-08-21 16:16 (UTC+0300): > Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning > during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? > the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a Are you sure you

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Felix Miata
James Freer composed on 2024-08-21 15:15 (UTC+0100): > I realise 32 bit is going but i haven't the cash at > present to consider a new PC. You may not need one. What CPU do you have? lscpu inxi -S Both of these will report CPU model, from which you can tell if indeed it only su

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 15:44, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] it is nontheless 64 bits hardware. Hey, reread your prose before posting, man! ;-) => nonetheless

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
a 32 bits operating system, but sometimes that computer is 64 bits hardware either for marketing or technical reasons.. Nowadays, one can install a 64 bits operating system even on some 64 bits computers that have a 32 bits BIOS. The last true 32 bits Intel CPU for PC has been launched 20 years ago

Re: edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
Ruslanas Gžibovskis [2024-08-21 16:16:54] wrote: > Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning > during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? > > the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a > simple kernel now has the

edu-debian net-install autopartition /boot to 500MB

2024-08-21 Thread Ruslanas Gžibovskis
Hi all, Just wondering if you have a problem when doing automated partitioning during the debian deployment using edu-net-install iso? the problem I face is too small partition size, which is 500 MB, when a simple kernel now has the size of 234 MB, each time it needs to regenerate even the same

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread James Freer
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 at 13:29, didier gaumet wrote: > > Le 21/08/2024 à 14:15, James Freer a écrit : > > > I was hoping i was doing the right thing with this live DVD. I realise > > 32 bit is going but i just wanted to test the hardware. I can't risk a > > hard disk

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 14:28, didier gaumet a écrit : [...] - You can use a Debian installation image as a repair image to start a shell that permits you to verify some basic points (no GUI...) [...] ...without installing anything on the disk(s)...

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > Is your machine really so old that it won't run a 64-bit Debian ? > In your situation i would just try one from: > https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ I gave the wrong link. Sorry. (The above is for BitTorrent download). Correct for direct download

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/08/2024 à 14:15, James Freer a écrit : I was hoping i was doing the right thing with this live DVD. I realise 32 bit is going but i just wanted to test the hardware. I can't risk a hard disk install until i have leave from work and can spend the necessary time on an installation.

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, James Freer wrote: > > For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried > > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up > > but it has asked for partitioning etc > Seems odd to ask for partitioning on a liveDVD. debian-12.5-

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread James Freer
On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 at 13:02, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 21 Aug 2024 12:52 +0100, from jrjfr...@gmail.com (James Freer): > > For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried > > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up > &

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread DdB
Am 21.08.2024 um 13:52 schrieb James Freer: > i tried > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso This is an installation image (the first of a whole set). What you want is a live iso such as for example: debian-live-12.6.0-i386-xfce.iso unfortunately, i could only dig up https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimag

Re: Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 21 Aug 2024 12:52 +0100, from jrjfr...@gmail.com (James Freer): > For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried > using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up > but it has asked for partitioning etc which suggests it is going to do >

Newbie install - Live DVD for 32 bit system

2024-08-21 Thread James Freer
Hi folks I have an old machine i want to try debian on for the first time. I understand that one can use the net install for a straight hard disk install. For a live DVD install as i want to check the hardware is okay i tried using debian-12.5-i386-DVD-1.iso. This i presume would just spin up

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-20 Thread sentiniate
Thank you for answering! > Il 20/08/2024 04:53 CEST David Wright ha scritto: > > What's the output from: > > $ driverless > > (This is normally step one in configuring a printer.) aldo@aldomaggi:~$ driverless ipps://EPSON%20ET-2810%20Series._ipps._tcp.local/ > > Cheers, > David.

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-19 Thread David Wright
On Sun 18 Aug 2024 at 18:44:30 (+0200), sentini...@virgilio.it wrote: [ … ] > At the “connection” line it says: Connection: > ipps://EPSON%20ET-2810%20Series._ipps._tcp.local/ [ … ] > in the next screen it tells me: "Unable to add printer: cups-driver failed to > get PPD file" - see error_log for

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-19 Thread Philippe Clérié
ld not print. Finally I read "CUPS Driverless Printing," uninstalled the Epson driver (with also --purge) and tried again. Cups "Administration" sees the printer (4 instances of it!) and asks me how I want to install it, I choose, at the prompt "add this Printer”, EPSON ET-2

Re: Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-19 Thread Philippe Clérié
nting," uninstalled the Epson driver (with also --purge) and tried again. Cups "Administration" sees the printer (4 instances of it!) and asks me how I want to install it, I choose, at the prompt "add this Printer”, EPSON ET-2810 Series (driverless). I go ahead. At the “connection” line i

Cups problems adding printer Epson in new Debian install

2024-08-18 Thread sentiniate
;CUPS Driverless Printing," uninstalled the Epson driver (with also --purge) and tried again. Cups "Administration" sees the printer (4 instances of it!) and asks me how I want to install it, I choose, at the prompt "add this Printer”, EPSON ET-2810 Series (driverless). I go

Re: Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > Is there some advantage in me editing one of the files in the EFI > partition as opposed to just putting the grub serial directives in > /boot/grub/grub.cfg of the ISO? None that i know of. Editing /efi/debian/grub.cfg of the EFI partition filesystem would just happen ins

Re: Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 12:42:05PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > Should I just edit that into $iso_root/boot/grub/grub.cfg and repack > > the ISO? > > If altering the EFI partition is not viable, then surely: Yes. Is there some advantage in me editing one of the files

Re: Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Andy Smith wrote: > Currently when I add the Debian 12 netinst ISO as a virtual media it > EFI boots grub, not isolinux, That's because Debian ISOs advertise a EFI System Partition with GRUB initial boot equipment: $ xorriso -indev debian-12.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso \ -report_el_t

Editing grub/EFI config on (net) installer ISO for serial install

2024-07-29 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, I am used to installing Debian by PXE boot and serial console. For that purpose I'm familiar with editing the isolinux config files to have the kernel serial settings (console=ttyS… etc) in isolinux/txt.cfg. Now for the first time I am trying to install a system that has a manag

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-02 Thread Richard
On 02.07.24 02:57, George at Clug wrote: I wanted to know "how to configure and use Wine to run a Windows program". And that's why you should try out Bottles, because it's not just plain Wine. If you succeed with it, you can check the source code, what exactly they are doing that enables bett

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread George at Clug
Thanks for your reply Jeff, On Tuesday, 02-07-2024 at 10:16 Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 6:33 PM George at Clug wrote: > > > > To all who replied, Thanks. > > > > Sadly after further testing I still have very little success with Wine. > > > > When I installed WineHQ's Wine Insta

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Jul 1, 2024 at 6:33 PM George at Clug wrote: > > To all who replied, Thanks. > > Sadly after further testing I still have very little success with Wine. > > When I installed WineHQ's Wine Installation, Gecko and Mono were able to be > installed. I noticed a rpcss.exe (from memory) in Task

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread George at Clug
To all who replied, Thanks. Sadly after further testing I still have very little success with Wine. When I installed WineHQ's Wine Installation, Gecko and Mono were able to be installed. I noticed a rpcss.exe (from memory) in Taskmgr. This at least allowed me to display the initial web page in

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, Jul 01, 2024 at 10:45:39AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > As a general rule I am willing to accept RPMs, pacman ?? packages, and > > .debs, when they are from the Distribution's own package libraries, or > > hardware vendor supported, as otherwise I don't know the people providing > > the

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
> As a general rule I am willing to accept RPMs, pacman ?? packages, and > .debs, when they are from the Distribution's own package libraries, or > hardware vendor supported, as otherwise I don't know the people providing > the package. I have this strange belief that when a developer supplies > a

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread Richard
used, especially not over the distributions packages and especially not when it comes to GPUs. Nvidias own drivers are infamous for having terrible installers. If you need them, install them the way your distro recommends. So if you'd install hardware vendor packages but not other third party pac

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread George at Clug
efully) better way. George. > > Am Mo., 1. Juli 2024 um 06:13 Uhr schrieb George at Clug < > c...@goproject.info>: > > > Mostly I only install software that is available in the Debian or Arch > > repositories, and I cannot find Bottles in the Debian Repository. I do not > &

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread Richard
chrieb George at Clug < c...@goproject.info>: > Mostly I only install software that is available in the Debian or Arch > repositories, and I cannot find Bottles in the Debian Repository. I do not > use snaps or flatpacks. Maybe I should but I don't. > Hopefully one day, Bottle

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-07-01 Thread didier gaumet
something other than "mscoree=d;mshtml=d" (=e ?) could permit Wine to download/install internet explorer

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-06-30 Thread George at Clug
efault and do not provide packages.": > Windows software may require Mono for .NET, and Gecko for any HTML > rendering. Debian has disabled these by default and do not provide > packages. I am now wondering what "is intentionally disabled" might actually mean. I am hopin

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-06-30 Thread didier gaumet
Le 01/07/2024 à 01:24, George at Clug a écrit : [...] I have not found useful documentation that can get me over the "Could not find Wine Gecko", "Failed to init Gecko" error messages. [...] Hello, disclaimer: I have not used Wine in ages, so I cannot be of real help Note, you could tell wh

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-06-30 Thread George at Clug
Richard, Thanks for your reply. On Sunday, 30-06-2024 at 17:11 Richard wrote: > Depends on what you are trying to do. I am trying to understand how to use Wine so that I can install various Windows programs and have them work. With the knowledge I would like to help others who are even l

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-06-30 Thread Mario Marietto
You can try this tool : https://github.com/winegui/WineGUI On Sun, Jun 30, 2024 at 1:58 PM Richard wrote: > Depends on what you are trying to do. But in my experience, if you don't > need to do some heavy work to maybe get something to work, take a look at > Bottles [1]. It's kinda a GUI for W

Re: How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-06-30 Thread Richard
Depends on what you are trying to do. But in my experience, if you don't need to do some heavy work to maybe get something to work, take a look at Bottles [1]. It's kinda a GUI for Wine and Proton and seems to have some tricks up its sleeves. So take a look at it, maybe it can do everything you are

How to use Wine, How to get Gecko to install and work

2024-06-29 Thread George at Clug
Hi, Does anyone know of really simple but comprehensive instructions on how to use and configure Wine, that you can send me links to? Does anyone know how to solve the below issue: $ wine iexplore Could not find Wine Gecko. HTML rendering will be disabled. 010c:err:mshtml:create_document_o

Documentation improvement (optical and USB install media)

2024-06-18 Thread Dan Ritter
Nobody is advocating removing the optical disk media options. There are no plans to do so, that I am aware of. Planning to do so would not make sense, since the current build process happily produces images suitable for both optical disks and USB filesystem devices. All the discussion has been

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Tom Dial
y that brltty does - if it did, I'd have brltty with every install on this laptop. Copy off your home directory as you did before - maybe using tar.gz and preserving permissions. Start with the .iso that includes firmware - the unofficial one. Build back slowly - do an expert text mode i

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread gene heskett
On 6/9/24 08:52, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom. The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca&q

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jun 09, 2024 at 02:14:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > orca is gone, as is gnome. Apt and synaptic refuse to re-install gnome w/o > dragging in orca too. Good night, whats left of it, Tom. The "gnome" metapackage depends on "orca". It's a direct depend

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-09 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
very* long message. At this point, your best option is actually to rebuild, I think. You can find a .iso file at https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-12.5.0-amd64-netinst.iso Unplug extraneous USB leads except for a mouse or keyboard. When you boot it up - go for the text mode e

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread gene heskett
a reinstall is partly designed to get you out of this "X happens, I did Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known initial state. Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did,

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread gene heskett
stribution mechanism, I expect that each app is developed and tested against a list of supported OS's and releases using VM's.  If you provide each app with its own VM containing a supported OS and release, the app should install and work correctly.  And, your base Debian installation

Snaps and Co [was: about 10th new install of bullseye]

2024-06-08 Thread tomas
On Sat, Jun 08, 2024 at 03:13:21PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: [...] > [...] That venv equ is generally what they all claim to do. I see your > reticence to make use of them as a restriction. I'm also firmly in that restricted camp. One of the things I appreciate distributions (and Debian in par

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread Tom Dial
out of this "X happens, I did Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known initial state. Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did, I'd have brltty with every install on th

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread David Christensen
developed and tested against a list of supported OS's and releases using VM's. If you provide each app with its own VM containing a supported OS and release, the app should install and work correctly. And, your base Debian installation should remain stable. David

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread gene heskett
On 6/8/24 03:22, David Christensen wrote: On 6/7/24 22:41, gene heskett wrote: I OTOH, have found AppImages a good way to get uptodate, and keep uptodate, packages like OpenSCAD, FreeCAD and the miriad 3d slicers, most of which do a new AppImage in the first week of the month. So the OpenSCAD

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-08 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 22:34:58 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 22:04, David Wright : > > On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > > > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the > > > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-08 Thread Max Nikulin
On 06/06/2024 17:41, Jan Krapivin wrote: Recently i have found out that i am unable to install new extensions with browser plugin "GNOME Shell integration". I have tried different browsers: Firefox stable If snap or flatpak sanboxing is involved then the following may be releva

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hi Hans! On Sat, Jun 08, 2024 at 11:43:38AM +0200, Hans wrote: > Hello! > > For those, who are interested in my discovering with bootcd, I attached a > screenshot of the > message, the installer told and why grub can not be installed. It might > explain more. > You might want to try OFTC IRC

[SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-08 Thread Hans
it and want to install this. I believe, the package bootcd is only known by very few people at all. But as we are always want to improve things, I feel it important, to tell about this problem. As I said before: Dunno, whom I should file a bugreport! Anyway, take a look at the picture and

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-08 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 8 Jun 2024 11:45:49 +0700 Max Nikulin wrote: Hello Max, >On 08/06/2024 00:48, Hans wrote: >> BUT - grub-efi-amd64-bin conflicts with grub-efi-amd64-bin-signed >No it does not. I have both installed. I think, the latter needs .mod The pedant in me would point out that actually, no, yo

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-08 Thread David Christensen
On 6/7/24 22:41, gene heskett wrote: I OTOH, have found AppImages a good way to get uptodate, and keep uptodate, packages like OpenSCAD, FreeCAD and the miriad 3d slicers, most of which do a new AppImage in the first week of the month. So the OpenSCAD I'm running is nearly 4 years newer than th

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
id Y, now I've got Z" - to get to a known initial state. Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did, I'd have brltty with every install on this laptop. Copy off your

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-07 Thread Max Nikulin
On 08/06/2024 00:48, Hans wrote: BUT - grub-efi-amd64-bin conflicts with grub-efi-amd64-bin-signed No it does not. I have both installed. I think, the latter needs .mod files provided by the former.

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
y live-system. During build this made no problems and all > dependencies are ok. But - during install it appears, that there is a > dependency conflict with the installer as bootcd needs grub-efi-amd64-bin. > > However, when bootcd wants to install, this package will be installed, to

Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
to the system itself), I am building > several ISOs a day. > > The live-build is set to bookworm (not bullseye, as lb config does). > > However, everything is going fine., the live-system is booting well. > > But: When I want to install it, the installer always breaks, when it wants to

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread Tom Dial
o a known initial state. Take out all the serial converters to UPS, lathe and so on. Wireless keyboard doesn't present as serial in the same way that brltty does - if it did, I'd have brltty with every install on this laptop. Copy off your home directory as you did before - maybe using t

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
. So now I can't run autoremove. So one more time this broken damned bookworm install has bit me in a rear. No Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. Here are my installation notes from when I migrated my daily driver from Debian 9 to Debian 11.  It has orca, and orca has never bothered me: January 9,

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread David Christensen
ne more time this broken damned bookworm install has bit me in a rear. No Cheers, Gene Heskett, CET. Here are my installation notes from when I migrated my daily driver from Debian 9 to Debian 11. It has orca, and orca has never bothered me: January 9, 2022 1. Wipe Intel SSD 520 Series 60

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread gene heskett
On 6/7/24 14:15, mick.crane wrote: On 2024-06-07 12:32, gene heskett wrote: Where did you get that beta trixie installer? bookworm does not allow that removal of orca without also removing gnome. brltty yes, but not orca. I don't think I've got any gnome stuff. here probably. https://cdimage.

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread Jan Krapivin
On gnome you can just run $ *gnome-shell --version* пт, 7 июн. 2024 г. в 22:04, David Wright : > On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the > > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which is, as i use

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-07 Thread Hans
. Sorry for that. I checked after install: If I want to install package bootcd after installation, no packages will be deinstalled, just several added. Not sure, what is the difference, between the installation process and the finished installation. Best Hans >

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread David Wright
On Fri 07 Jun 2024 at 20:06:27 (+0300), Jan Krapivin wrote: > Yes, you are right, maybe. Though Debian is probably a rare (if not the > only) distro that still uses Gnome 43.9, which is, as i use Debian, my > case. And (maybe) a problem? I searched for gnome in https://packages.debian.org/index an

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-07 Thread David Wright
my live- > system. During build this made no problems and all dependencies are ok. But - > during install it > appears, that there is a dependency conflict with the installer as bootcd > needs grub-efi-amd64- > bin. > > However, when bootcd wants to install, this package wil

Re: about 10th new install of bullseye

2024-06-07 Thread mick.crane
On 2024-06-07 12:32, gene heskett wrote: Where did you get that beta trixie installer? bookworm does not allow that removal of orca without also removing gnome. brltty yes, but not orca. I don't think I've got any gnome stuff. here probably. https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd

[SOLVED] Re: Debian bookworm fails to install

2024-06-07 Thread Hans
- during install it appears, that there is a dependency conflict with the installer as bootcd needs grub-efi-amd64- bin. However, when bootcd wants to install, this package will be installed, too as it is dependent. So far, so well. BUT - grub-efi-amd64-bin conflicts with grub-efi-amd64-bin-s

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread Jan Krapivin
packages, but > > about a performance of a plugin for browsers, it is not a Debian > > package. > > > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/GnomeShellIntegration?action=show&redirect=Projects%2FGnomeShellIntegrationForChrome > > > > I am trying to

Re: Impossible to install extensions with Gnome browser plugin

2024-06-07 Thread debian-user
p;redirect=Projects%2FGnomeShellIntegrationForChrome > > I am trying to install Gnome extensions with it. They are also not > Debian packages. > > https://extensions.gnome.org/about/ So maybe a Gnome forum or list or one about the specific plugin or even one about the browser is a better place to look for help than a debian mailing list?

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