Re: svn commit: r1841225 - /httpd/httpd/trunk/modules/dav/main/props.c

2018-11-11 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 1:26 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >... > The discussion died a little bit, because of the other issue (frequent > writeev calls). > I know that the liveprops issue is not fixed yet, but I guess it makes > sense > if you commit the patch you posted here already. > My time has

Re: Changing mod_lua to stable

2019-01-25 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 2:47 PM Chris Punches wrote: > Someone may want to add some text along the lines of when to use u/WSGI > instead of mod_lua as that's going to be a thing if this goes stable. If > the what/when isn't in there clearly we could run into really bad > situations like ASF usin

Re: Migrate to git?

2019-10-06 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Oct 6, 2019, 11:52 Roy T. Fielding wrote: > > On Oct 5, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > increase in contributions and contributors... > Not because of git, but due to GitHub. Git is "meh", but GitHub

Re: Migrate to git?

2019-10-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton wrote: > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Various PMCs have made their default/de-facto SCM git and have seen an > > increase in contributions and contributors... > > > > Is this something the httpd project should consider

Re: Migrate to git?

2019-10-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 4:45 AM Nick Kew wrote: >... > OK, that's not quite fair. But isn't that what the github mirror is for? > Not even close to fair, stop that. The github mirror is readonly. As noted upthread, that means merging PRs and other activities are limited. It cannot act as a road

Re: Migrate to git?

2019-10-09 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 7:59 AM Michal Karm wrote: > On 10/08/2019 10:44 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 3:13 AM Joe Orton > <mailto:jor...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2019 at 04:09:34PM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: >

Re: Migrate to git?

2019-10-14 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 1:42 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >... > Would we lose this possibility [of editing log messages] with git? > Yes. The log message is part of the commit hash. You can effectively delete the "tip" commit of a line-of-development, and replace it with a new commit (ie. same cod

Re: svn commit: r1872960 - /httpd/site/trunk/content/dev/release.mdtext

2020-01-18 Thread Greg Stein
$ svn info --show-item last-changed-revision $whatever I think that's what you're looking for, in a simple command. On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 9:00 AM wrote: > Author: druggeri > Date: Sat Jan 18 15:00:05 2020 > New Revision: 1872960 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1872960&view=rev > Log

Re: Can github activity (new PRs, comments) be forwarded to dev@ ?

2020-04-29 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:19 AM Joe Orton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 05:19:09PM +0200, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > +1 g...@httpd.apache.org (I declare the naming discussion for the list > name opened :-)). > > This offers an easy opt-in for those who are interested in these updates. > > +1 fr

Re: svn commit: r1879306 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES include/ap_mmn.h modules/dav/main/mod_dav.c modules/dav/main/mod_dav.h

2020-06-28 Thread Greg Stein
Hey Graham ... what's the goal with exposing these things? (this rev, and prior) ... I don't see any emails describing "why". Generally, it would be "shrug" ... but you're changing the MMN, and I don't see any discussion on why/goal. Thanks, -g On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 8:17 AM wrote: > Author:

Re: svn commit: r1879888 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES include/ap_mmn.h modules/dav/main/mod_dav.h modules/dav/main/util.c

2020-07-15 Thread Greg Stein
Seems these helper functions would be a better fit within apr_xml, rather than httpd. On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:16 AM wrote: > Author: minfrin > Date: Wed Jul 15 13:16:19 2020 > New Revision: 1879888 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1879888&view=rev > Log: > mod_dav: Add utility functi

Re: svn commit: r1879889 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: CHANGES include/ap_mmn.h modules/dav/main/mod_dav.h modules/dav/main/props.c

2020-07-15 Thread Greg Stein
You're already changing the API ... why not simply introduce insert_prop_v2() with the appropriate parameters? This concept of "pass parameters via the pool" is very disturbing. Cheers, -g On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:56 AM wrote: > Author: minfrin > Date: Wed Jul 15 13:56:55 2020 > New Revision:

Re: svn commit: r1904638 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: changes-entries/DAVLockDiscovery.txt modules/dav/main/mod_dav.c modules/dav/main/mod_dav.h modules/dav/main/props.c

2022-10-26 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 1:59 PM Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: > On Tue, Oct 18, 2022 at 05:03:48PM +, Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: > > dbm is fast once you have it open. mod_dav_fs opens DAVLockDB on each > > HTTP request, then it acquire a filesystem level lock on it. This is > > where contenton occurs

Re: svn commit: r1904638 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: changes-entries/DAVLockDiscovery.txt modules/dav/main/mod_dav.c modules/dav/main/mod_dav.h modules/dav/main/props.c

2022-10-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM Emmanuel Dreyfus wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2022 at 01:58:58AM -0500, Greg Stein wrote: > > With that said, I'm not a fan of [DAV or svn] locks. Anything that can be > > done to avoid a workflow that encompasses locks would be ideal. > &

Re: [libapreq2] nits to pick about the patches to util.c over the past few years

2022-10-29 Thread Greg Stein
F/OSS is not about telling others how to write their code, Joe. You know this. And it *definitely* is not about demanding they spend *their* time to fix your pet issues. If you have a problem with the code, then supply a fix. Your dozen emails are not fixing anything, and are certainly not endeari

Re: ci vs PR approvals? (was: [apache/httpd] Fix a possible NULL pointer dereference in hook_uri2file (PR #355))

2023-05-04 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 1:45 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >... > 2. Switching from Subversion to Git is mostly an emotional problem for me. > We have some closer ties to Subversion by some >overlaps in the community and via mod_dav_svn we kind of partially eat > our very own dogfood here by using

Re: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository from Subversion to Git

2023-05-04 Thread Greg Stein
+1 for switching to GitHub (which implies a switch to git). So: [X]: Move the read/write repository from Subversion to Git and leverage the features of Github (for now Actions and PR). On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 3:34 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > This is a formal vote on whether we should move our re

Re: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository from Subversion to Git

2023-05-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 2:12 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: >... > Why the assumption of Microsoft github? There is no reason to > migrate to a git service such as Microsoft github when sourcehut works > just fine as does a private git repo provided by Apache FSF itself. > Because the Apache Instr

Re: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository from Subversion to Git

2023-05-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 3:19 AM Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > Everybody says git is decentralized, so why are you even asking this > > question? Can't you just use any git repository, anywhere? ;-) > > Github is microsoft and you can bet they will break things. It is only a > matter of time with them

Re: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository from Subversion to Git

2023-05-08 Thread Greg Stein
I might suggest another day or two because of the weekend and because it is so high-impact. Maybe an extra post to private@ in case some PMC members aren't tracking dev@ very closely. On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 1:42 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > On 5/4/23 10:34 AM, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > This i

what does svn/github integration mean? (was:: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository...)

2023-05-08 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 4:29 AM Graham Leggett via dev wrote: > On 04 May 2023, at 09:34, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > >... > > [X]: Leave everything as is. > > I would rather see proper SVN integration with Github. This is a vote of > no confidence in our own projects. > What do you mean by "integr

Re: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository from Subversion to Git

2023-05-09 Thread Greg Stein
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 9:08 AM Stefan Sperling wrote: >... > If the ASF at large was confident in SVN as a technology then our current > reality would look quite different. The Subversion project never managed > to grow its developer base by becoming part of the ASF. We've mostly seen > That is

Re: [VOTE] Switch read/write repository from Subversion to Git

2023-05-10 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 5:18 AM Stefan Sperling wrote: >... > I did have some hope that we would see individual self-motivated > contributors > arriving via various ASF projects because they are all using SVN every day > on svn.apache.org, are programmers, might have itches to scratch, already >

Re: Time for a new libapreq2 release?

2023-08-27 Thread Greg Stein
you're on the PMC. Why don't you do the tag&roll. ? On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 4:31 PM Joe Schaefer wrote: > Seems like it’s been a year since the last release, which means it’s time > for good people to take another try at releasing something nondefective. > > Here to help with the quality control

Re: Time for a new libapreq2 release?

2023-08-28 Thread Greg Stein
lease? Cheers, -g [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committer/joes On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 8:43 AM Joe Schaefer wrote: > Because my account no longer exists? > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 1:43 AM Greg Stein wrote: > >> you're on the PMC. Why don't you do the tag&ro

Re: Time for a new libapreq2 release?

2023-08-28 Thread Greg Stein
count is made available > somehow. > > On Mon, Aug 28, 2023 at 4:50 PM Greg Stein wrote: > >> Your LDAP record is still present [1]. You're still on the PMC of httpd >> and perl. Commit rights to incubator, sis, subversion. Dunno where httpd >> went, but as a PMC member

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/ssl mod_ssl.c mod_ssl.h ssl_engine_ext.c ssl_engine_vars.c ssl_expr_parse.c ssl_expr_parse.h ssl_expr_scan.c ssl_scache.c

2001-08-22 Thread Greg Stein
And we probably don't want that $Header$ in there, either. I would think the Bison/flex output would be generated during buildconf (rather than a Makefile) so that we don't have to expect users to generate them at build time (meaning they would have to have Bison/flex). Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Letting Table store non-char data

2001-08-22 Thread Greg Stein
et the key > > >the postfix hook had set up. apr_pool_userdata_get(&data, "ian-ssi-tag-data", r->pool); >... > > How about changing request_rec->notes to a hash table? This would be > > a relatively simple change, as the notes field isn't used in a huge > > number of places in the standard modules. No need. IMO, r->notes should just go away. It is pointless nowadays. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Letting Table store non-char data

2001-08-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:38:44PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: >... > >Yes there is. apr_pool_userdata_set(..., r->pool) >... > Using the "userdata" functions on r->pool as a replacement for a > hash-based r->notes would be a mistake. The

Re: Letting Table store non-char data

2001-08-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 01:22:00AM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > >I would posit those operations are not needed. The notes or userdata are for > >specific bits of information. It is not a simple collection that you can > >iterate over. In fact, since you can

Re: 2.0.24 ready for beta?

2001-08-23 Thread Greg Stein
since everybody is "oh no, it *MUST* be a beta" we're waiting forever. It's silly. If you want a release, then make a release. Label it as beta or gold or whatever later. Nobody said we can't change the quality level over time. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Letting Table store non-char data

2001-08-23 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Aug 23, 2001 at 07:50:03AM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > From: "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:37 AM > > > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2001 at 10:38:44PM -0700, Brian Pane wrote: > > > Gre

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/mappers mod_negotiation.c

2001-08-23 Thread Greg Stein
quot; :-) I ran into this when somebody asked about writing a DAV server using CGI. They never got the OPTIONS methods... Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: .libs/httpd

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
#x27;t realize libapr was now linked as a shared > library. that explains everything. You could probably pass --disable-shared at Apache's config line. Of course, then *everything* would be built statically and you'd get a big ass blob of an executable :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: appending to the content brigade

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
t share a > single apr_bucket_heap structure which points to str with a refcount of > 2, rather than having two entirely separate apr_bucket/apr_bucket_heap > pairs both of which point to str and each of which has a refcount of > 1. But that is the cooler solution :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/http http_protocol.c

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
Imagine if you have a particular protocol running over some socket to a backend server. You know the next chunk of data is 1000 bytes. You insert your custom socket bucket, saying " socket, 1000 bytes". It can be read, but it can't be copied. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/include http_core.h

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
ivate structure to something like mod_filesystem. That mod_filesystem would implement the various translation and other fs-related items that occur. And no... I'm not suggesting this happen any time soon :-) But it will one day, if I can figure out how to tackle it and can set aside the time. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: .libs/httpd

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
the system shared. Of course, this also assumes that httpd-2.0/configure has the right set of switches to prepare such a system. But without the configure switches, you have no hope to do it anyways. So you aren't even at a libtool problem yet. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: .libs/httpd

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
be a shared library. Should have been a long time ago, but we didn't have installation running for it, so we made it a static library. That was turned off recently, making things as they should be. What are you blaming libtool for? Can you state the specific problem? Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: .libs/httpd

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 08:27:57AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Friday 24 August 2001 00:33, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 12:15:17AM -0700, Doug MacEachern wrote: >... > > > libuncooltool. i didn't realize libapr was now linked as a shared >

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/include http_core.h

2001-08-24 Thread Greg Stein
hance to go back and fix the stuff. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: mod_include and POST (fwd)

2001-08-26 Thread Greg Stein
est I can. Does > the following patch look correct? If so, I'll commit. The SSI stuff is a handler in 1.3, so it is the proper guy to state what is handled. And it says "no POST" :-) As a filter in 2.0, mod_include should just stay out of it. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: mod_include and POST (fwd)

2001-08-26 Thread Greg Stein
ext, b); > } > - r->allowed |= (AP_METHOD_BIT << M_GET); > if (r->method_number != M_GET) { I say the above lines should simply be removed. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/server core.c request.c

2001-08-26 Thread Greg Stein
ame are both about translating URLs into the backend storage. Why was this new one added? (did I miss some discussion somewhere?) And if so, then why does translate_name stick around? -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: mod_include and POST (fwd)

2001-08-26 Thread Greg Stein
OM-METHOD) Hmm... guess I should go read the original motivation for this, but it seems that whatever the problem was, it should be solved differently. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: dependencies

2001-08-27 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 05:15:54PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Sunday 26 August 2001 17:16, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 26, 2001 at 11:06:55AM -0700, Marc Slemko wrote: >... > > > In 1.3, dependencies were generated periodically and then included in the > > >

Re: chunking of content in mod_include?

2001-08-28 Thread Greg Stein
ut of memory. Brian's recently posted patch looks good for this. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] Apache 1.3.21-dev for NetWare builds (5)

2001-08-28 Thread Greg Stein
dns_looked_up:1; > -unsigned dns_resolved:1; > +unsigned char dns_looked_up:1; > +unsigned char dns_resolved:1; > > } uri_components; Screw the bitfields. Just change all of them to plain old unsigned chars. (and apr_byte_t in APR). There is no reason to be miserly with bits here. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] worker MPM: reuse transaction pools

2001-08-28 Thread Greg Stein
processor machine? Cheers, -g p.s and yes, I know Ryan just applied it, but that doesn't mean it should stay there :-) -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] worker MPM: reuse transaction pools

2001-08-28 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:01:11PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Tuesday 28 August 2001 12:17, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 05:09:01PM -0700, Aaron Bannert wrote: > > > This patch implements a resource pool of context pools -- a queue of >... > > IOW,

Re: time for 2.0.25?

2001-08-29 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 11:30:53AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > The tarballs are up now! Let's get to beta this time,PLEASE If it isn't beta quality, then release it as alpha. But it should be released, no matter what. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: time for 2.0.25?

2001-08-29 Thread Greg Stein
mbo as an alpha. Or we could get proxy to work against the tagged-25 and then release the combo as beta. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: 2.0.25 on FreeBSD 4.2-R -- 404 returns text/plain error page

2001-08-29 Thread Greg Stein
topper from making it beta, that's for sure. No big deal. Let's release it as an alpha. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] Add -X back in...

2001-08-30 Thread Greg Stein
appy. +1 Cheers, -g (i.e. changing it to the hack that used to be there -- some kind of global that each MPM had to deal with... that was ooky; this patch looks good) -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] RE: make distclean doesn't

2001-08-31 Thread Greg Stein
Cleaning it is not right. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] RE: make distclean doesn't

2001-09-02 Thread Greg Stein
On Fri, Aug 31, 2001 at 09:16:15PM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Friday 31 August 2001 19:31, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > From: "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 9:30 PM > > > > > On Fri, Aug

Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0

2001-09-02 Thread Greg Stein
od_gz in the core. Please use -0.9 or something. It gets really confusing to see -1 and never know what it means. As I've said before: -1 really ought to always mean a veto. But... that's just me :-) Needless to say, I'm +1 on the concept. It's a big win for everybody. I haven't reviewed the code yet, so no commentary there. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/filters mod_include.c

2001-09-02 Thread Greg Stein
_vars_lazy(r, tag_val); > +} Two patterns of "apr_table_get, check for LAZY_VALUE, call add_include_vars_lazy". I'd recommend a single "get_include_value()" function to encapsulate this logic. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] RE: make distclean doesn't

2001-09-03 Thread Greg Stein
s have a file like config.nice, so it doesn't apply. Don't sweat your time. I've explained my reasons, Cliff and Justin seem to agree quite wholeheartedly. And I'll repeat: -1 on anything rm'ing config.nice Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] RE: make distclean doesn't

2001-09-03 Thread Greg Stein
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 12:15:33PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > From: "Greg Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 3:22 AM > > > I use distclean on my computer all the time. Along with extraclean. Neither > > of those targets sh

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/modules/http mod_mime.c

2001-09-03 Thread Greg Stein
e if the filter doesn't exist from a prior > level). > > > None of this is addressing filter ordering across commands yet. I said 8 months > > ago we've done an inadequte job of defining the use-filters syntax. I'm saying > > the very same thing today. > > Yeah, I expect that the ordering of filter execution isn't going to be > right given the code we have now. -- justin -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0

2001-09-03 Thread Greg Stein
module (probably a longer list, since some subprojects > at a given time likely haven't gone gold just yet.) I don't like your package/version names :-), but I completely agree with the concept. It's what I advocated when we were discussing what to do about the proxy stuff (and each time since). Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] hash table for registered filter list

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
d, I bet somebody has already discovered that... :-) > Committed. Thanks. -- justin eek. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] Make filter names lowercase

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
hat you'll self-correct over time. But if other people are being overly harsh, then you can tell them so. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] RE: make distclean doesn't

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 08:15:08AM -0700, Ryan Bloom wrote: > On Sunday 02 September 2001 01:22, Greg Stein wrote: >... > > I use distclean on my computer all the time. Along with extraclean. Neither > > of those targets should toss config.nice. *That* is what I mean. > >

Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
ensure that it is just as portable. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap (was: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0)

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
re means -- that we have an obligation and responsibility to maintain it. And we will. If it goes in. Summary: * zlib is not going to be included in any fashion, we'll use it by reference if/when we need to * you should release your 2.0 mod_gzip so that everybody can make an informed decision about putting compression functionality into Apache * if mod_gzip goes in, then it would do so earlier rather than later, and we will deal with any API changes that occur between now and ship -- it isn't your burden to bear, so there shouldn't be a reason to withold. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

patch comments Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
e simply serving to make the filter system more complicated. > I'd like to commit something that is close > to what Ian originally submitted and then tweak it slightly. Push it back to him to tweak. It appears we have a bit of time :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

the rollup issue (was: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0)

2001-09-04 Thread Greg Stein
module contributions or inclusion have a "lower bar" to become part of ASF-distributed bits? etc. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: sub requests are all "GET"s

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
be a GET as they are > not duplicating the parent request's behaviour. > > -- > -eric > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Feel free to forward this message to any list for any purpose other than > email address distribution. -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 03:56:32AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Greg Stein wrote... >... > > As stated elsewhere, pcre and expat are in there because they aren't > > typically available, like zlib is. > > Ah... so that's the criteria? Ok. Generally,

Re: remaining CPU bottlenecks in 2.0

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Sep 04, 2001 at 11:56:48PM -0500, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: >... > You were discussing the possibility of parsing for

Re: Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0 ( Thread restart )

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
uld be constant, unless mod_gz introduces some kind of caching. > > * page resposne times are slower with GZ, but have a lower deviation > > The expectation is that the network bandwidth used should be much > lower. The tradeoff is that the CPU should get nailed. -- justin Also

Re: [PATCH] Fix relative internal file...

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
> -if (strncmp(rnew->filename, fdir, fdirlen) == 0 > - && rnew->filename[fdirlen] > - && ap_strchr_c(rnew->filename + fdirlen, '/') == NULL) > +if (strncmp(rnew->filename, fdir, fdirlen) == 0 && rnew->filename[fdirlen]) > { > char *udir = ap_make_dirstr_parent(rnew->pool, r->uri); > -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
on different items, for different reasons. If you want a stable server, with a sooner-than-later release, then concentrate on the core. Some of those other people will work on modules which have *nothing* to do with stability. If the core developers are distracted by mod_gz, then that is their own fault, not the fault of introducing a new module. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

why not post mod_gzip 2.0? (was: Re: [PATCH] Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0)

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
omething. The more conspiratorial-minded of us would simply believe this whole thread is to create a division and weaken the voting for mod_gz. Much like politicians will introduce a second, similar bill to confuse and divide supporters and then crush both bills. But of course that wouldn't

Re: Add mod_gz to httpd-2.0 ( Thread restart )

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:15:56PM -0700, Ian Holsman wrote: > Greg Stein wrote: > >>On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 08:05:27PM -0700, Ian Holsman wrote: > >>>Some performance results with mod_gz are available at > >>>http://webperf.org/a2/v25/ > >>>(no co

Re: [PATCH] Fix relative internal file...

2001-09-05 Thread Greg Stein
On Wed, Sep 05, 2001 at 09:10:01PM -0700, Ian Holsman wrote: > Cliff Woolley wrote: > > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Greg Stein wrote: > >>I don't understand what you're trying to solve here, and how this > >>solves it. > > > > It's an attempt to

Re: zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap

2001-09-07 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Sep 06, 2001 at 08:54:58AM -0700, Doug MacEachern wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Greg Stein wrote: > > > mod_gz is just a little bugger off to the side that the core people don't > > have to truly worry about. > ... > > It can go in now and be fixed over ti

Re: zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap

2001-09-07 Thread Greg Stein
ant us to not do > What's Right in this case simply because of the emotions > that the debate caused. There shouldn't be any emotions at this point. There is no contention between two modules. We are only talking about mod_gz, which Ian posted a while back. Current consensus

Re: zlib inclusion and mod_gz(ip) recap

2001-09-07 Thread Greg Stein
US file. > > By the way, consensus does not always mean unanimity. It also > means general or majority agreement.. Right. That was my intent. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
ikes, a subproject can be > created. This has been too long people, let's put 2.0 to bed. Some people believe his veto is illegitimate -- that there is no technical reason for vetoing the inclusion into modules/experimental. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

why mod_gz "now" ? (was: Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS)

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
the browser. It is also completely > ignoring the FLUSH bucket when it arrives and has no way to add > 'Content-length:' if/when it is necessary. All good points. There are also a bazillion other things that mod_gzip 1.x does, which mod_gz can't do (and you've expla

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
ing. I'd like to see S3.5 implemented :-) (I'm also psyched to try out decompression in Python's httplib module; if zlib is present, then httplib could transparently decompress for the user) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [proposal] httpd-extras

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
t week), so that we can do rollup releases. Once we have that framework in place, then something like -extras could make sense. But any use of repositories outside of httpd-2.0 is going to simply make our existing rollup problem even worse. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

what about proxy? (was: Re: General Availability release qualities?)

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
'll be comitting the proxy > module to it's placeholder in the core. When you say placeholder, are you suggesting that you're going to commit the code back into the httpd-2.0 branch? Rather than doing that, why don't we work on the rollup mechanism instead? Proxy has been m

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
As I explained to Kevin Kiley, having it in experimental *means* that we can bother with it. It is really difficult to do that while it is a patch being "maintained" by a single person. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
long in the core. > > In *your* opinion. Other people have different but equally valid > opinions. No one person sets an absolute for the project. Well, until they whip out their veto pen :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
e using > . > (Imagine if you protected this block with basic auth, but forgot > that another URL can access the same directory.) > > If you wanted to add a "URLMapTo" directive that does something similar, I > would be less opposed. But I still would not be in favour. > > Joshua. -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

httpd-extras (was: Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0 STATUS)

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
tarball) 2) set it up *after* we establish the httpd-rollup subproject, so that we have a consistent, easy work pattern for multiple/rollup releases Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

merge macros (was: Re: mod_ssl broken)

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
ciate a core version of it. AP_CFG_MERGE_* located in http_config.h would make some sense to me. In the mod_ssl version, there was the "unset" param; I would suggest the simplest for assumes NULL. A second one would take an "unset" param. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: merge macros

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
ome cases, not enough of this happens and the codebase begins to show its creakiness. Adding comments, increasing consistency, refactoring, etc. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: [PATCH] resubmit new and improved ap_vrprintf fix to handle > 4K

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Stein
secmp strings?? Yah :-) It could be optimized by recording a flag in the request_rec, stating that the filter was inserted (rather than looking for it). The strcasecmp() shouldn't be necessary because we uppercase f->frec->name nowadays. Not that it will improve things overall, but there ya go. :-) Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Apache-1.3: question about mod_unique_id

2001-09-11 Thread Greg Stein
t looks like we need to cut over to those extra four bytes > across all platforms. Oh, screw all that mess :-) Just use a UUID for the unique id. It has lots of bits, and it is already unique (by definition and without work). Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: what about proxy?

2001-09-11 Thread Greg Stein
there, too. I'm +1 on creating httpd-rollup, and -0.5 on putting proxy back in. [ if (since?) mod_ldap is going out, then we have to deal with the rollup anyways, which would totally kill any impetus for putting proxy back in. thus, I'm against bringing proxy back into the core. ] Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Hard coded HTTPD_ROOT in httpd.h...

2001-09-12 Thread Greg Stein
installations use > either one of these or the default location set by the layout. > Not a problem, I think. If the hard-coded default is never used, then why don't we just toss it, and require people to pass/use a root? Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: another map_to_storage gotcha.

2001-09-13 Thread Greg Stein
PHP- or SSI-processed content. With Subversion, we *only* have Location directives. There is absolutely nothing on the disk to serve. is an important directive and needs to be used in many, many cases. In this particular case, the problem arose because the attempt to set "global" optio

Re: Apache-1.3: question about mod_unique_id

2001-09-13 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 09:35:43AM -0700, dean gaudet wrote: > On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, Greg Stein wrote: >... > > > Seems that we now have 64 bit cpu's with potentially 64 bit pids. This adds > > > to the equation, it looks like we need to cut over to those extr

Re: Apache-1.3: question about mod_unique_id

2001-09-13 Thread Greg Stein
id(); > #else > pid = getpid(); > #endif > > On the other side I saw that some other sources inside Apache use getpid(), is this >not a problem there too? And if only Win32 has an insufficient getpid() definition, >it may be enough to redefine this only there and leave all other as is...?? > > Guenter. -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

Re: Apache-1.3: question about mod_unique_id

2001-09-13 Thread Greg Stein
Win32.) For *Windows*, why bother? Use a UUID. You *know* it is unique. For other platforms, the discussion could be longer, but I don't understand why you would want to tie yourself in a knot when CoCreateGuid() is just calling out to solve this. Cheers, -g -- Greg Stein, http://www.lyra.org/

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