Re: [marketing] funding request for stand crew FOSDEM 2010

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: > ... I guess we're better off with > other gimmicks like t-shirts and asking for donations. :-) T-shirts would be good, I'd like one myself, but only if the risk is manageable and it can be avoided to tie too much funding up in inventory. Stickers might be convenient,

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: > Hello, > >>> Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to >>> become good enough than to spend most of the budget on >>> transportation and accommodations. >> >> I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a >> case for using the budg

Re: [marketing] Funding request for a Visual Identity meeting in Hamburg

2010-01-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > ... > Is much cheaper to improve the [online] communication up to become good > enough than to spend most of the budget on transportation and > accommodations. I agree very much with that and vote no, also. I'm not seeing a case for using the budget on transportation

Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration

2010-01-07 Thread Lars Nooden
Also, 10/10/10 will be on this year's calendar, just a few days before the official 10-year event. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@marketing.openo

Re: [marketing] marketing blog

2010-01-07 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: > ... As "the" marketing blog is considered an official part of the > marketing project, thus representing OOo, we should put more efforts > into it. > ... I'm in favor of archiving the current entries and shutting the > blog down until we have something that is much mor

Re: [marketing] Proposed change of Marketing Project Lead

2010-01-07 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: > Those of you with long memories may remember that Jacqueline asked me to > become co-lead of the Marketing Project in April 2004. > ... > So, I would ask you all to confirm whether you are happy to endorse this > change of Lead, and if so, please welcome Florian and give him

[marketing] UK Joint Information Systems Committee

2010-01-04 Thread Lars Nooden
The UK Joint Information Systems Committee could be interested in deploying OpenOffice.org nationally: "Our longer term commitments to the open agenda will also be maintained, including open source, Open Access, open educational resources, and supporting open research

Re: [marketing] countdown to 10 year celebration

2010-01-03 Thread Lars Nooden
Hamish Bell wrote: > Something to think about Oct 13 ... it is a Wednesday - will many > people be able to make it on a Wednesday, being a working day etc. For many, that is an advantage, because that allows travel paid by the employer to also take place on working days. /Lars --

Re: [marketing] Is OpenOffice.org a Threat? Microsoft Thinks So

2009-12-29 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: > "...until now, most people have tended to dismiss the open source office > project as a distant runner-up to Microsoft Office, and certainly not a > serious contender. Microsoft obviously feels otherwise, which means that > OpenOffice.org is clearly doing something right." >

Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...

2009-12-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Christine Louise Beems wrote: > If this Open Government directive is applicable to OOo, then a great > opportunity could be to do our own news release (as immediately as > possible), something like: "OOo Community Ready to Meet Obama's Open > Government' Directive -- The OOo Community announced tod

Re: [marketing] OOo Pamphlet?

2009-12-13 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Get it from here: > http://alexandro.biz/ooo-main-logo-2col-trans.png What are the specs for that image? It would be useful to know the official colors either as RGB or pantone. Same for the font (ie. typeface, size and style) http://marketing.openoffice.org

Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo

2009-12-12 Thread Lars Nooden
Christine Louise Beems wrote: > Do I understand correctly here that ultimately a web browser type > utility will be capable to open different document formats...? Thanks. > ~Christine That would be one way to have a universal ODF viewer. There have been generic XML/SGML browsers in the past and t

Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...

2009-12-11 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: > Agreed. It's also a number that we have hard evidence for, and which we > can prove significantly understates the true figure - > http://marketing.openoffice.org/marketing_bouncer_faq.html John, can that be leveraged to bring to contact either the Sunlight Foundation or the

Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo

2009-12-11 Thread Lars Nooden
Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> ... I know, all people discussing here have of >> course several applications installed that are implementing ODF, but out >> does this apply to the average user? > > Perhaps not now. But it's easy to imagine that there will be a > lightweighed ODF viewer application in

Re: [marketing] Design ideas/slogan ...

2009-12-09 Thread Lars Nooden
Ian wrote: > I think the 100 million downloads is an excellent focus. I used it > recently at a trade conference and you could see the jaws drop. Most > people still don't see OOo as that big. We need to capitalise on such > things. The exact details are less important than the central message > th

Re: [marketing] Re: [ux-discuss] marketing discussion on ODF document icons - summary

2009-12-08 Thread Lars Nooden
in the analysis of the smear campaign against commonwealth employee. So keeping a distinction between ODF and OOo remains essential. However, my comment regarding branding is that the branding, for our set, not be third place. It was said better by yourself and John McCreesh. > skeptic not

Re: [marketing] OpenOffice.org shortlisted for Best Online News Releases 2009 award

2009-11-26 Thread Lars Nooden
John McCreesh wrote: > http://www.prweb.com/pr/best-online-news-releases-2009.html Congratulations. What where the evaluation criteria for the selection? /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org

Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo

2009-11-25 Thread Lars Nooden
Jens Habermann wrote: > Hi all! > > I created a prototype for a new "all ODF" selection screen. Because of > the icons missing colors, all other color buttons ( templates, web... > ) looks strangely out of place. So i did this "monochromatic ODF" > version. So we have something visual to talk about

Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo (without OOo branding ATM) - volunteers?

2009-11-23 Thread Lars Nooden
Juergen Schmidt wrote: > Lars Nooden wrote: >> Bernhard Dippold wrote: >> >>> In my eyes these colors have a message we shouldn't give up without >>> having thought about the positive and negative aspects of this change. >>> Same with the product i

Re: [marketing] ODF desktop icons for OOo (without OOo branding ATM) - volunteers?

2009-11-22 Thread Lars Nooden
Bernhard Dippold wrote: > In my eyes these colors have a message we shouldn't give up without > having thought about the positive and negative aspects of this change. > Same with the product information in the icons. Many icon themes use one or two colors (not counting greyscale shading). Is the

Re: [marketing] OOoCon Videos

2009-11-21 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Hi I would love to see the videos that took place, but I havent been able to > see them nor on Totem or VLC. Is there a way I can get a FTP/HTTP download > URL for these videos. Also they seem to be chopped by day as opposed by > talk... It would be nice to have torren

Re: [marketing] Re: videos of OOoCon

2009-11-10 Thread Lars Nooden
Sophie wrote: > May be next time, we should envisage to use our own mirror network to > balance the requests. That and setting up a torrent. /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additiona

Re: [marketing] voice conferences

2009-11-09 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > wee need to be able to have an analog hole. being a toll free number > that doesn't only depend on VOIP. VOIP - HAM gateway? ;) /Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.or

Re: [marketing] voice conferences

2009-11-08 Thread Lars Nooden
Florian Effenberger wrote: > ... we could set up our own > system based on SIP and Asterisk, but before evaluating, I'd like to > know if there is any need at all. +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.

Re: [marketing] Important breakthrough in Danish local administration

2009-10-11 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Lars Nooden > wrote: >> Leif Lodahl wrote: >>> Just to let you know, we are experiencing a very important breakthrough in >>> the municipalities right now. >> Again, congratulations. >

Re: [marketing] OOo as security upgrade

2009-10-11 Thread Lars Nooden
PS. Also, in the context of *specific* MSO bugs, it can be pointed out that OOo is not affected. OK, there may or may not be other problems, but let's not let the media spin the issue as if MSO was the only product on the market. /Lars ---

Re: [marketing] OOo as security upgrade

2009-10-11 Thread Lars Nooden
Malte Timmermann wrote: > some people already commented on this while I was on vacation, and > especially Thorsten Behrens already made clear that OOo is not free from > such issues. Welcome back. > OOo was already quite often affected by file format issues, see > http://www.openoffice.org/securi

Re: [marketing] Important breakthrough in Danish local administration

2009-10-11 Thread Lars Nooden
Leif Lodahl wrote: > Just to let you know, we are experiencing a very important breakthrough in > the municipalities right now. Again, congratulations. Can I tease and ask about how the municipality is spending money? /Lars - T

Re: [marketing] Re: OOo branding elements / new logo proposals [was: [OOoCon2009] Poster stand for OOo logo proposals at Orvieto?]

2009-10-11 Thread Lars Nooden
Graham Lauder wrote: > On Sunday 11 October 2009 05:34:19 Lars Nooden wrote: >> Graham Lauder wrote: >>> Thats disappointing because we should be changing it. It is now old and >>> decrepit and is looking it while our oppositions comes out with a fresh >>> ne

Re: [marketing] Re: OOo branding elements / new logo proposals [was: [OOoCon2009] Poster stand for OOo logo proposals at Orvieto?]

2009-10-10 Thread Lars Nooden
Graham Lauder wrote: > Thats disappointing because we should be changing it. It is now old and > decrepit and is looking it while our oppositions comes out with a fresh new > logo with every other release. Is it any wonder that people see us as just > an alternative to Office '97 Thanks for

Re: [marketing] Promoting the ODF-Story (or how to break it)

2009-10-04 Thread Lars Nooden
Andre Schnabel wrote: > ... At the other hand, we now > have three flavours of ODF in OOo and none of these is the ISO standard > (what is ODF 1.0). ODF 1.1 is an OASIS standard, which is the body responsible for ODF. > While doing translations for OOo 3.2 I just came across, > that we introduce

[marketing] Danish Municipality of Lyngby-Taarbæk moves schools to OOo

2009-10-03 Thread Lars Nooden
http://www.osor.eu/news/dk-lyngby-taarbek-moves-schools-to-openoffice There is a very nice quote from the head of IT, "Moving to open source paid for about 150 of these computers." That's just the up front savings. There should be more over time. /Lars ---

Re: [marketing] Re: [ux-discuss -> marketing-dev] Should OOo introduce ODF mime type icons?

2009-09-29 Thread Lars Nooden
Bernhard Dippold wrote: > It's not only a question of icon design (Art Project) or user > interaction (UX) - in my eyes it's a marketing question to remove any > application specific symbols from the document icons Yes, it's one of those miserable problems with multiple facets. There are also th

Re: [marketing] Re: [ux-discuss -> marketing-dev] Should OOo introduce ODF mime type icons?

2009-09-28 Thread Lars Nooden
Cor Nouws wrote: > Hi Bernard, André, *, > > Bernhard Dippold wrote (27-9-2009 0:49) > >>> [...] >>> What does it help, if OOo introduces new icons, but never ever spoke >>> with other members of the "ODF application family" if they would join? >>> [...] > > IMO this is one of the most important

Re: [marketing] Re: [ux-discuss -> marketing-dev] Should OOo introduce ODF mime type icons?

2009-09-27 Thread Lars Nooden
Charles-H. Schulz wrote: > To answer the title of this thread simply; the ODF Adoption Committee > at the OASIS consortium is trying to have everyone adopt the same > icons. I think we will succeed in doing this if every ODF stakeholder > plays even. Even if each one makes its own set of ODF icon

Re: [marketing] Question from journalist - who can help

2009-09-26 Thread Lars Nooden
Hi, Leif, leif wrote: > A few days ago I was contacted by a journalist here in Denmark. He is > working on a piece on multi core processing and is wondering if any open > source projects is working in that direction. In other projects, particularly the various kernels, multi-cpu and multi-core pr

Re: [marketing] Some news from o...@consegi

2009-09-21 Thread Lars Nooden
Thanks, Alexandro. Alexandro Colorado wrote: > I want to share this link from Jomar Silva from ODF Alliance who > organized and participate on an ODF Workshop through CONSEGI > http://homembit.com/2009/09/odf-workshop-and-consegi-2009.html > > Very interesting points and debates including: > "Nag

Re: [marketing] State Government switching to Open Office

2009-09-05 Thread Lars Nooden
Kay Koll wrote: > This news is definitely worth to be added to the OO.o Newsletter and > OO.o references page There is also the Major OOo Deployments page: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Major_OpenOffice.org_Deployments Regards -Lars

Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Lars Nooden
Kay Koll wrote: > I do not have a public accessible web page to present the HTML newsletter. Ah... There's the problem. That's solvable if you are willing. -Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.

Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Lars Nooden
Kay, What is the URL for the current newsletter? Not a message in an archive, but show the actual URL for the actual newsletter. -Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.org For additional commands,

Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Lars Nooden
Kay Koll wrote: > Lars, > >> Newsletter gets a web page, news letter is published as a web page, the >> URL is sent to the mailing list with a plain text version underneath > but this would imply that I have to create the newsletter twice. Not if your HTML skills are any good. Start with valid

Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Lars Nooden
Zhang Weiwu wrote: > ... at which time I believe those who said they prefer HTML > are either not able to identify the beauty in plain text or lying to me > to justify their doing of sending HTML with bold red color. Or just plain wrong. That's a third option. If those people had been given IT s

Re: [marketing] Survey: Should be the OO.o Newsletter in HTML or simple text

2009-09-04 Thread Lars Nooden
What's with all the trolls to the OOo projects of late? Kay Koll wrote: > ... > The marketing alias does not accept HTML emails, As it should be. Making a web page and posting the URL is one thing, but sending messages with embedded HTML goes far beyond annoyance. > However we have setup a sur

Re: [marketing] State Government switching to Open Office

2009-09-01 Thread Lars Nooden
Chris Pratt wrote: > I thought the group would find it interesting that the Utah State Department > of Technology has recently (beginning August 1st, 2009) implemented a policy > stating that all new computers ordered will have OpenOffice installed as the > office productivity software instead of M

Re: [marketing] 1. Open-Source-Treffen in Munich

2009-07-28 Thread Lars Nooden
CTVN wrote: > never thought about this. is this a more or less single incident or a > serious problem? any info on that? Every few months something like that pops up. I suppose trademark enforcement might be one approach to policing vendors. But cases like this sound more like plain old fraud a

Re: [marketing] OOo as security upgrade

2009-07-27 Thread Lars Nooden
Thorsten Behrens wrote: > ... we use the same underlying technology > (binary file formats, with c/c++ code handling it)... Ok. How about the non-binary formats, i.e. ODF? -Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketi

Re: [marketing] OOo as security upgrade

2009-07-27 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > ... Are your documents in danger? ... The format lock-in is another area of danger. MS broken competitor to the Sun ODF plug-in adds to that realized data loss. Regards -Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [marketing] Microsoft's COO about Openoffice

2009-07-27 Thread Lars Nooden
Per Eriksson wrote: > - Works with a whole bunch of BI, content, ECM and BPM software? These need to be emphasized by name in addition to the ability to swap out these applications more or less interchangeably according to need. Regards -Lars

[marketing] OOo as security upgrade

2009-07-27 Thread Lars Nooden
MS Office is beyond repair: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9135852/Microsoft_admits_it_can_t_stop_Office_file_format_hacks A stop-gap measure even for M$ shops would be to install OOo along side, quickly, and use that whenever possible. -Lars -

Re: [marketing] Telefonica in Spain might be breaking up OOo's LGPL and Trademark rules

2009-06-09 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > ... enforcing trademark. Also I don't think Sun should hold that trademark > since the oracle risk. Can we spin off a foundation? -Lars - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@marketing.openoffice.o

Re: [marketing] Telefonica in Spain might be breaking up OOo's LGPL and Trademark rules

2009-06-09 Thread Lars Nooden
Agustin Gonzalez-Quel wrote: > My personal feeling is that a cease and desist letter is appropiate. The two topics for that letter are trademark useage and LGPL requirements. For the latter, a pre-requisite for them using or distributing OOo is compliance with the license. Spain *is* a signator

Re: [marketing] most wanted feature on OpenOffice

2009-05-29 Thread Lars Nooden
Malte Timmermann wrote: > ... > There is already an open source OCR project (http://www.gocr.de/), so > it's more reasonable to create an extension which integrates their OCR > functionality into OOo. Yes, a plug-in would be the way to go there. It's more important to be able to integrate divers

Re: [marketing] NZ Govt throws out MS supply deal

2009-05-25 Thread Lars Nooden
Andy wrote: > Now that is a thought. At the local level we need to show how much > money could be saved by going open source. IIRC, in the UK, MS treated the contracts with the schools as trade secrets. > Just imagine how much money > is tied up in one local school on software. What are the l

Re: [marketing] NZ Govt throws out MS supply deal

2009-05-25 Thread Lars Nooden
Alexandro Colorado wrote: > At the same time, I dont think CA can afford to renew :) IMHO, choosing M$ appear to not be about making money, it appears to be about pushing a single agenda. So whether they can afford to or not probably won't be a deciding factor. However, there is no denying that

Re: [marketing] NZ Govt throws out MS supply deal

2009-05-25 Thread Lars Nooden
Graham Lauder wrote: > ... Excellent! > http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/5FA015D542415324CC2575C100804A31 Cool. It'd be an opportunity for INGOTS or any other group to jump in with OOo courses. Latvia is setting a good example: http://www.osor.eu/news/lv-city-council-to-provide-openoff

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