Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label is over

2006-02-26 Thread John McCreesh
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 23:13 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Hello to all of you, > > and thanks to all the people joining the voting. > > From 16 Marketing Project members only one voted for Label D, all > the others preferred Label B (four of them named Label A as second > choice). > >

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label is over

2006-02-26 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hello to all of you, and thanks to all the people joining the voting. From 16 Marketing Project members only one voted for Label D, all the others preferred Label B (four of them named Label A as second choice). | So *Label

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Jacqueline Rahemipour
Hi Bernhard, *, thanks a lot for this work! Bernhard Dippold schrieb: Hi list members, in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. To come to an "officially approved" label I'd like to ask you to vote on these

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread RealGrouchy (CAM)
Okay, guys. Stop flooding my e-mails with your failed flamewar... Yes, Open Source Software *theoretically* operates on the "Bazaar" model, and that works fine when dealing within the community. But when six different people independently come up with something (like a logo :0), if that community

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Charles-H.Schulz
+1 for Label B. Thanks guys for your work! Best, Charles. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Pauwels
Ian Lynch schreef: [...] John... Take your co-leads responsability to actually lead. We can only lead by the excellence of what we do. If we provide world class artwork, why would anyone choose *not* to use it? Because someone else produces some different but worldclass a

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Pauwels
Nicu, You do not have a clue where my experience comes from and therefore can not judge nor label it but you are right :) it is a bazaar :) thank you for putting it so nicely for me :) One thing you should know about a bazaar: It has NO style model or structure whatsoever :) You only help

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Nicu Buculei
Steven Pauwels wrote: John McCreesh schreef: It's not intended to be. We're an open-source project, not a monopoly supplier - we can't say "You must put this 'Fred Computers Inc recommends OpenOffice.org' logo on every advert or we'll cut you off our preferred price plan" I really think you

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Pauwels
I am not looking for a personal war here Nicu... Thank You, Steven P. Nicu Buculei schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: You do not have a clue where my experience comes from and therefore can not judge nor label it but you are right :) it is a bazaar :) thank you for putting it so nicely for m

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Pauwels
Steven Pauwels schreef: I am not looking for a personal war here Nicu... Thank You, Steven P. Nicu Buculei schreef: Steven Pauwels wrote: You do not have a clue where my experience comes from and therefore can not judge nor label it but you are right :) it is a bazaar :) thank you for

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Nicu Buculei
Steven Pauwels wrote: You do not have a clue where my experience comes from and therefore can not judge nor label it but you are right :) it is a bazaar :) thank you for putting it so nicely for me :) One thing you should know about a bazaar: It has NO style model or structure whatsoever :)

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Pauwels
John McCreesh schreef: On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:19 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote: [snip] I think that if someone has a violent objection to the label that the community chooses by vote, he should start his own OOo distribution. It is completely respectless to the efforts put in by the art pro

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Steven Pauwels
Hi all, The i or I issue: please consider that the OEM label will not have the size it has on your screen, and that it will be printed, which uses a higher LPI then the 72 DPI on your screen, so any dot on screen could be divided into minimum 5 upto 50 lines per dot. This changes the scharpne

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Ian Lynch
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 22:36 +, John McCreesh wrote: > On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:19 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote: > [snip] > > I think that if someone has a violent objection to the label that the > > community chooses by vote, he should start his own OOo distribution. It > > is completely respe

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-21 Thread Cor Nouws
Hi Bernard, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Cor Nouws schrieb: [...] + I Agree with Steven on the 'i'. In the font I used (Bitstream Vera Sans - condensed to 78% to fit best to the logo font) the capitalized "I" is nearly the same as the small "l", so people not speaking English very well could re

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Sigrid Kronenberger
Hi Bernhard, Bernhard Dippold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Hi list members, > > in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels > that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. > > To come to an "officially approved" label I'd like to ask you to > vote on the

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 23:19 +0100, Steven Pauwels wrote: [snip] > I think that if someone has a violent objection to the label that the > community chooses by vote, he should start his own OOo distribution. It > is completely respectless to the efforts put in by the art project, and > the deciss

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Daniel Carrera
Bernhard Dippold wrote: + I Agree with Steven on the 'i'. In the font I used (Bitstream Vera Sans - condensed to 78% to fit best to the logo font) the capitalized "I" is nearly the same as the small "l", so people not speaking English very well could read "lncluded" :-( How about "OpenOffice.

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi Cor, all, Cor Nouws schrieb: [...] + I Agree with Steven on the 'i'. In the font I used (Bitstream Vera Sans - condensed to 78% to fit best to the logo font) the capitalized "I" is nearly the same as the small "l", so people not speaking English very well could read "lncluded" :-( But mo

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Steven Pauwels
John, There is a consensus about which logo to use. I had no doubts that this would be the case. B is a good design, with no 'flaws' in it. Take this tip: Succesfull marketing is done by creating a uniform message and look. You just posted against that. This makes me question the Marketin PL.

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Bernhard Dippold wrote: in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. To come to an "officially approved" label I'd like to ask you to vote on these labels (otherwise the 4 or 5 active people at the art project woul

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Cristian Driga
Hi Bernhard, Thanks for this outstanding work. As always, what you do here is simply great!! +1 for B ;-) Best wishes, Cristian Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi list members, in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffi

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread John McCreesh
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 21:01 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Hi list members, > > in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels > that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. > > To come to an "officially approved" label I'd like to ask you to > vote on these l

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread RealGrouchy (CAM)
+1 for B. I'd support B with capslock for "Included." I support it because it doesn't have the flaws of the others: - A is too much like 1.x, and gives the impression that 2.0 isn't much different. - C and D's curvy lines are too dark, whereas in B the white lines add contrast - C's "Included" i

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Daniel Carrera
Bernhard Dippold wrote: I didn't think, that it would be necessary, but if you want to, you may do so. Your vote will be split into partial votes, so your vote stays as important as the voting of everybody else. Uhmm... no, that's not "approval voting". If you are going to use "fist past th

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Jean Hollis Weber
Daniel Carrera wrote: Next time I strongly suggest "approval voting". That is, people get to give a +1 to as many choices as they want. This is, arguably, the best voting system invented. It is very "fair" and mostly devoid of strategy. +1 to approval voting in future. I never realised that v

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Cor Nouws
Thanks, Bernard, Bernhard Dippold wrote: so I ask you to have a look at this website and vote with "+1" for the label you like most. + 1 for B. + I Agree with Steven on the 'i'. + Idea for possible improvement: could the backgroud be from blue to white to blue (top>bottom) with the white p

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Cristian Driga
Hi Steven, As discussed no more than two weeks ago, please start a new thread to debate this problem. The current thread was for voting and small adjutments in the process. Therefore, I kindly ask you, please follow the basic nettiquette rules and start a new thread as the subject is already some

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread G. Roderick Singleton
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 21:49 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Hi Jeff, all, > > Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA schrieb: > > > +1 for Label B (except I think "Included" needs to be capitalized like all > > the > > others). > > > No problem - do you want me to upload the modified version? Yes please and

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Daniel Carrera
Bernhard Dippold wrote: in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. [snip] http://www.familie-dippold.de/OEM_label_vote.html Could we use approval voting? Approval voting means that you can say +1 to more tha

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Steven Pauwels
+1 on B and I do not request any changes. Why included should not be capitalized: For native english, Included reads as easy as included. For any other native language that has another word for included (spelled differently) it makes readablility drop by 90 %. Steven P. Bernhard Dippold schr

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread J David Eisenberg
> > Label B: Logo on blue gradient with white wire gulls. > B is my first choice. In order: B, A, D, C -- J. David Eisenberg http://catcode.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EM

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi John, John McCreesh schrieb: [...] However, I would recommend that we display the winner as the 'recommended' or 'official' label, but also leave the others as alternatives. We have no power to enforce a label - if someone takes a violent objection to the 'recommended' label, I'd prefer the

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Steven Pauwels
John McCreesh schreef: On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 21:01 +0100, Bernhard Dippold wrote: Hi list members, in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels that should be sticked on PCs delivered with OpenOffice.org. To come to an "officially approved" label I'd like to ask you to

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Jeffrey G. Causey, CPA
+1 for Label B (except I think "Included" needs to be capitalized like all the others). Jeff Causey On Monday February 20 2006 15:01, Bernhard Dippold wrote: > Hi list members, > > in the art project we designed different proposals for OEM labels > that should be sticked on PCs delivered with Op

Re: [Marketing] Vote about official OpenOffice.org OEM label

2006-02-20 Thread Bernhard Dippold
Hi all, I just forgot to tell you that I think, the voting should be finished in 5 day - on Saturday, 25th. So people doing their OpenOffice.org work on the weekend will be able to join too. Bernhard Dippold schrieb: [... full quoite removed - please answer to the previous posting...] Bes