Hi all,
Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
scope about what we are voting for.
Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under EPL
1.0 license.
Before they were published under ASL or dual ASL/EPL licenses thus as
defined in our
+1 binding
Kristian
Den 18.08.2011 11:23, skrev Arnaud Héritier:
Hi all,
Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
scope about what we are voting for.
Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under EPL
1.0 license.
Before they
+1 (non-binding)
/Anders
2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier :
> Hi all,
>
> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
> scope about what we are voting for.
>
> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under EPL
> 1.0 license.
> Before they were p
with that stuff
over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
txs and LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar wrote:
> From: Anders Hammar
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
> with EPL licenses - take 2
> To: "Maven De
>
>
> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar wrote:
>
>> From: Anders Hammar
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
>> with EPL licenses - take 2
>> To: "Maven Developers List"
>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011,
st aether release done at
> > Eclipse?
> >
> > If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that
> > stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
> >
> > txs and LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/18/11, An
to do much...
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Benson Margulies wrote:
> From: Benson Margulies
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
> with EPL licenses - take 2
> To: "Maven Developers List"
> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 1:17 PM
e, then this would be a big pro.
>
Sorry, I don't grok that sentence.
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar wrote:
>
>> From: Anders Hammar
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven cor
Sorry, all, I didn't realize you were asking about the *practical*
issues with the package names. I perceived a nonexistent ideological
dispute.
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involved with that stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be
> a big pro.
> >
>
> Sorry, I don't grok that sentence.
>
> > txs and LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar
> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Anders H
anges we need
to apply in aether to make future Maven needs possible, etc...
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Benson Margulies wrote:
> From: Benson Margulies
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
> with EPL licenses - take 2
> To: "
he direction.
>
I wouldn't make client code have to change anything.
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
>> From: Jason van Zyl
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
>> with EPL
o change anything.
>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jason van Zyl
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
>>> with EPL licenses - take 2
>&
>
>
>
> > Otoh it would require us to go through maven-core and all plugins to
> change imports. So either way is ok, but we need to know the direction.
> >
>
> I wouldn't make client code have to change anything.
>
For any thirdparty lib we are using in core, on Maven APIs
(org.apache.maven) shou
take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>
> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that stuff
> over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
>
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar wrote:
>
On Aug 18, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Otoh it would require us to go through maven-core and all plugins to
>> change imports. So either way is ok, but we need to know the direction.
>>>
>>
>> I wouldn't make client code have to change anything.
>>
>
> For any thi
is stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>
>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>>
>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that
>> stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be a big pro.
>>
&g
> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed to
> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel
> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>
Changing that should be like 20 minutes work, as long as they only
change com.
+1 (binding)
Ralph
On Aug 18, 2011, at 2:23 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
> scope about what we are voting for.
>
> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under EPL
> 1.0 license.
>>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>>
>>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>>>
>>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get involved with that
>>> stuff over at Ecli
On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or will they get changed to
>> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel
>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>
> Changing that
27;Sonatype' is huge. Hudson was a
(questionable) Oracle trademark and they donated it to Eclipse. Guess you don't
want to do this with 'Sonatype' :)
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Kristian Rosenvold wrote:
> From: Kristian Rosenvold
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Us
et changed to
>>>> org.eclipse.*? This is important for us to know. If so, we can just cancel
>>>> the vote and wait for this stuff to be released at Eclipse.
>>>>
>>>> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release done at Eclipse?
>
t;>>> b.) is it possible to operate aether without sisu? Pure JSR-330 and/or
>>>>> plexus DI stuff is fine. Is there any direct guice depending code in
>>>>> aether?
>>>>>
>>>>> c.) will the package names remain com.sonatype or
Me also, or should we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a list
already?)
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> From: Olivier Lamy
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
> with EPL licenses - take 2
>
er Lamy wrote:
>
>> From: Olivier Lamy
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
>> with EPL licenses - take 2
>> To: "Maven Developers List"
>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM
>> 2011/8/18 Jason van Zyl
; --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>
>> From: Olivier Lamy
>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
>> with EPL licenses - take 2
>> To: "Maven Developers List"
>> Date: Thursday, August 18, 2011, 2:34 PM
&g
+1 (non-binding).
--
Baptiste
Le 18 août 2011 11:25, "Arnaud Héritier" a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
> scope about what we are voting for.
>
> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under EPL
> 1.0 lic
+1 (non binding)
Manfred
On Thu, August 18, 2011 7:08 am, Ralph Goers wrote:
> +1 (binding)
>
> Ralph
>
> On Aug 18, 2011, at 2:23 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a
>> better
>> scope about what we are voting for.
>>
list? (is there such a list
>> already?)
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>
>>> From: Olivier Lamy
>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
>>> with
uld we ask on the eclipse aether list? (is there such a list
already?)
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy wrote:
From: Olivier Lamy
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with
EPL licenses - take 2
To: "Maven Developers List"
Date:
+1 binding
Hervé
Le jeudi 18 août 2011, Arnaud Héritier a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a
> better scope about what we are voting for.
>
> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under
> EPL 1.0 license.
>
such a
>>>> list already?)
>>>>
>>>> LieGrue,
>>>> strub
>>>>
>>>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: Olivier Lamy
>>>>> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and S
hould change this part to be pluggable.
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Mark Struberg wrote:
> From: Mark Struberg
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core
> with EPL licenses - take 2
> To: "Maven Developers List"
> Date: Thurs
+1
On 2011-08-18 11:23, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
> scope about what we are voting for.
>
> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be released at Eclipse.org under EPL
> 1.0 license.
> Before they were pub
+1 binding for the upgrade
I echo Mark's comments about SPI and maven-aether-plugin.
Wayne
2011/8/18 Arnaud Héritier :
> Hi all,
>
> Thus as decided with Mark and Kristian I relaunch a new vote with a better
> scope about what we are voting for.
>
> Next releases of SISU and Aether will be rel
ed in the
maven-aether-provider and we should change this part to be pluggable.
+1, I agree completely.
LieGrue,
strub
--- On Thu, 8/18/11, Mark Struberg wrote:
From: Mark Struberg
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Usage of Aether and Sisu as dependencies of maven core with
EPL licenses - take 2
To: &
gt;>
>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get
>> involved with that stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be
>> a big pro.
>>
>> txs and LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 8/18/11, Anders Hammar
>> wrote:
>>
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Wayne Fay wrote:
> +1 binding for the upgrade
>
> I echo Mark's comments about SPI and maven-aether-plugin.
+1 binding
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On 18/08/2011, at 9:23 PM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
> [+1] I'm in favor to use as Maven core dependencies SISU and AETHER libraries
> published under EPL 1.0 License and released under eclipse.org governance
Hi all
Re-reading the thread I saw I forgot to vote for it. Thus it has my +1
For now we have 9 binding votes
(Arnaud,Kristian,Ralph,Hervé,Dennis,Wayne,John,Stephen,Barrie) and 4 non
binding votes (Anders,Baptiste,Manfred,Mark) in favor to use as Maven core
dependencies SISU and AETHER librari
I have no particular reason not to vote at this point.
+1
Sent from my iPhone
On 27 Aug 2011, at 11:31, "Arnaud Héritier" wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Re-reading the thread I saw I forgot to vote for it. Thus it has my +1
> For now we have 9 binding votes
> (Arnaud,Kristian,Ralph,Hervé,Dennis,Wayne,J
t the first aether release
>> done at Eclipse?
>>
>> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get
>> involved with that stuff over at Eclipse, then this would be
>> a big pro.
>>
>> txs and LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>> --- O
On Aug 27, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Re-reading the thread I saw I forgot to vote for it. Thus it has my +1
> For now we have 9 binding votes
> (Arnaud,Kristian,Ralph,Hervé,Dennis,Wayne,John,Stephen,Barrie) and 4 non
> binding votes (Anders,Baptiste,Manfred,Mark) in
it for this
> >> stuff to be released at Eclipse.
> >>
> >> d.) How long will it take to get the first aether release
> >> done at Eclipse?
> >>
> >> If there is a chilly way for maven committers to get
> >> involved with that stuff over at E
>
>
>
> Janet just finished the trademark review and everything is clear. Wayne
> Beaton and I both forgot about starting the trademark review and it's
> required before the project creation review can start. The project creation
> review will start next week.
>
Ok, thus the ball is on your side n
On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Janet just finished the trademark review and everything is clear. Wayne
>> Beaton and I both forgot about starting the trademark review and it's
>> required before the project creation review can start. The project creation
>> rev
+1 Would vote again ;-)
Glad to see things can once again move on.
I look forward to seeing this release go out.
Maveno!
Mark
On 29/08/2011, at 12:10 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
> Thus with Olivier and Stéphane votes we have the majority (12/22) of PMCs
> voting in favor to use as Maven core d
The creation reviews for Sisu and Aether have been started:
http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.sisu/
They will both finish on September 7th.
When finished we'll turn out a release ASAP.
On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Arnaud Héritier wrote:
>>
The creation review has gone through for both Aether and Sisu. I have also just
submitted the project provisioning requests.
I'll work with Denis at Eclipse to get the provisioning done as quickly as
possible so we can do the necessary work to run out releases of Sisu and Aether
and therefore M
Hi Jason (and others aether/sisu commiters)
Do you have some news ( am I the only one to cross users waiting for new
releases to show that our project is always alive?)
Is the eclipse infrastructure so slow to create new projects ? I may
understand that these little libraries aren't critical (n
The latest is always available here:
http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
We still have to refactor the package names as well which we are going to do
next week. We've released Aether 1.13 and Sisu 2.3.0 so we can use those as
well if we want. If you want to stick with the proper Ec
Ok. Thanks for this update.
We 'll be patient
Arnaud
Le 17 sept. 2011 à 17:53, Jason van Zyl a écrit :
> The latest is always available here:
>
> http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>
> We still have to refactor the package names as well which we are going to do
> next week. W
I don't have a view on the way things happen nor how much steps are still
pending, but FYI, things are on their way: there is now a project page [1]
(even if empty), and CLAs are on their way: I was asked for it a week ago (i
suppose it's the same for others) and replied a few days ago, I'm now
I'm waiting for my CEO to sort out the CLA stuff
On 17 September 2011 17:19, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote:
> I don't have a view on the way things happen nor how much steps are still
> pending, but FYI, things are on their way: there is now a project page [1]
> (even if empty), and CLAs are on their way:
Le 17 sept. 2011 17:54, "Jason van Zyl" a écrit :
>
> The latest is always available here:
>
> http://eclipse.org/proposals/technology.aether/
>
> We still have to refactor the package names as well which we are going to
do next week.
To be sure, are you talking about renaming Aether packages to
Jason - is there any further news on the Aether/Sisu front? Really starting
to get an itch for a 3.0.4 release - my manager this morning was having
strange resolution issues that I traced to same issues I've been seeing with
the currently shipped aether.
Would be good to get a 3.0.4 release out w
When I last checked, the code import is still waiting for PMC approval... I
suspect that until the code has been imported there cannot be a release ;-)
On 30 September 2011 10:05, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> Jason - is there any further news on the Aether/Sisu front? Really
> starting
> to get an i
To clarify... I last checked yesterday, and the PMC in question is some
eclipse PMC but it is unclear to me, only having just got my eclipse account
set up, exactly which
On 30 September 2011 11:48, Stephen Connolly <
stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I last checked, the code import
Another month went by any progress?
david jencks
On Sep 30, 2011, at 3:50 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> To clarify... I last checked yesterday, and the PMC in question is some
> eclipse PMC but it is unclear to me, only having just got my eclipse account
> set up, exactly which
>
> On 30 Se
I was just discussing this at lunch with coworkers and was about to post
the very same question. Would be great to see movement on this.
--
"Great artists are extremely selfish and arrogant things" — Steven Wilson,
Porcupine Tree
On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 12:42 PM, David Jencks wrote:
> Another m
David Jencks wrote:
Another month went by any progress?
The sources were checked into git according to parallel IP, awaiting
full legal approval. Some dependencies still await review [0], too.
Benjamin
[0] http://www.eclipse.org/projects/ip_log.php?projectid=technology.aether
--
On 4 November 2011 10:22, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
> David Jencks wrote:
>
>> Another month went by any progress?
>
> The sources were checked into git according to parallel IP, awaiting full
> legal approval. Some dependencies still await review [0], too.
>
Any idea what's needed to prod the
Stephen Connolly wrote:
Any idea what's needed to prod the process along... never having been
involved at eclipse before, this seems like a rather long process with
no visibility (as far as I can see) as to what is taking place and
where the blockers are
Looking at Eclipse' IPZilla, which btw
If its stuck at the bottom of the pile for an unknown amount of time - I'd
REALLY love to see 3.0.4. ship out with the current non-eclipse Aether.
Leaving a broken Maven out in the wild for what appears to be politics more
than anything just continues to hurt the Maven name.
I was under the impre
On 4 November 2011 10:55, Benjamin Bentmann wrote:
> Stephen Connolly wrote:
>
>> Any idea what's needed to prod the process along... never having been
>> involved at eclipse before, this seems like a rather long process with
>> no visibility (as far as I can see) as to what is taking place and
>>
On 4 November 2011 11:04, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> If its stuck at the bottom of the pile for an unknown amount of time - I'd
> REALLY love to see 3.0.4. ship out with the current non-eclipse Aether.
>
> Leaving a broken Maven out in the wild for what appears to be politics more
> than anything jus
On 13:04:06 Friday 04 November 2011 Stephen Connolly wrote:
> On 4 November 2011 10:22, Benjamin Bentmann
wrote:
> > David Jencks wrote:
> >> Another month went by any progress?
> >
> > The sources were checked into git according to parallel IP, awaiting full
> > legal approval. Some depende
On 13:30:12 Friday 04 November 2011 Stephen Connolly wrote:
> On 4 November 2011 11:04, Mark Derricutt wrote:
> > If its stuck at the bottom of the pile for an unknown amount of time -
> > I'd REALLY love to see 3.0.4. ship out with the current non-eclipse
> > Aether.
> >
> > Leaving a broken Mav
Perhaps they don't have to make a formal eclipse release, but so long
as they have parallel ip in place they should be able make a milestone
or release candidate release. The formal eclipse 'release' isn't what
we in maven lands consider a release really, they consider a release
something that can
On 15:35:35 Friday 04 November 2011 Jesse McConnell wrote:
> Perhaps they don't have to make a formal eclipse release, but so long
> as they have parallel ip in place they should be able make a milestone
> or release candidate release. The formal eclipse 'release' isn't what
> we in maven lands co
On 4 November 2011 13:41, Alexander Kurtakov wrote:
> On 15:35:35 Friday 04 November 2011 Jesse McConnell wrote:
>> Perhaps they don't have to make a formal eclipse release, but so long
>> as they have parallel ip in place they should be able make a milestone
>> or release candidate release. The
On 11/4/11 7:28 AM, Alexander Kurtakov wrote:
> On 13:04:06 Friday 04 November 2011 Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> On 4 November 2011 10:22, Benjamin Bentmann
> wrote:
>>> David Jencks wrote:
Another month went by any progress?
>>>
>>> The sources were checked into git according to parallel
You guys decided you wanted to wait so let's just wait. I didn't think it would
take this long to get through either but it is what it is. So realistically
we're looking at 3.0.4 in 4 weeks.
On Nov 7, 2011, at 9:24 AM, John Casey wrote:
> On 11/4/11 7:28 AM, Alexander Kurtakov wrote:
>> On 13:0
On 07/11/2011, at 8:43 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
> You guys decided you wanted to wait so let's just wait. I didn't think it
> would take this long to get through either but it is what it is. So
> realistically we're looking at 3.0.4 in 4 weeks.
But it could also be longer.
I don't see why we
no reason at all other than no committer has reasked for the dependency
change. i am hoping benjamin can make a release of aether cut from the
eclipse git repo or some other public repo clone of the eclipse one, and
then asks to use that dep...
alternatively if somebody wants to propose what they
On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
> On 07/11/2011, at 8:43 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
>> You guys decided you wanted to wait so let's just wait. I didn't think it
>> would take this long to get through either but it is what it is. So
>> realistically we're looking at 3.0.4 in
So are people fine with using Aether 1.13. I've already got the necessary
changes if we want to go ahead with that.
On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:15 AM, Brett Porter wrote:
>
>>
>> On 07/11/2011, at 8:43 AM, Jason van Zyl wrote:
>>
>>> You guys d
I'm fine, but process says you should call a vote to change the
dependency from the ASL version to the EPL licensed version. Yes there
was a vote before, but the circumstances have changed, and hence there
is strong likelyhood (IMHO) that a re-vote might result in a different
answer
-Stephen
On 1
Sure, I'll let someone the PMC call the vote. Happy to do the work once that's
taken care of.
On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> I'm fine, but process says you should call a vote to change the
> dependency from the ASL version to the EPL licensed version. Yes there
> was a vo
Ok I will start a vote for both aether and sisu upgrade.
Just tested today both. Just need a simple change to have unit tests passed.
2011/11/10 Jason van Zyl :
> Sure, I'll let someone the PMC call the vote. Happy to do the work once
> that's taken care of.
>
> On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:08 AM, Ste
Yes, it all works fine and the tests pass.
On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:38 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> Ok I will start a vote for both aether and sisu upgrade.
>
> Just tested today both. Just need a simple change to have unit tests passed.
>
>
> 2011/11/10 Jason van Zyl :
>> Sure, I'll let someone th
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