Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-06-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
hi, have you noticed this? http://www.javalid.org/ -M On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sev-en is a new jsf-extension. sev-en allows jsf validation with annotations! some central features: - cross-component validation (including cross-entity

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-06-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello matthias, yes - i had a look at it some weeks ago. i don't like the architecture of it. sev-en is much more extensible. furthermore, javalid executes validation after the update model values phase,... - -1 for javalid regards, gerhard 2008/6/4 Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-06-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:53 AM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello matthias, yes - i had a look at it some weeks ago. i don't like the architecture of it. sev-en is much more extensible. furthermore, javalid executes validation after the update model values phase,... oh, ok.

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-17 Thread Gerhard Petracek
... -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-11 Thread Martin Marinschek
Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if the orchestra crew really

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-11 Thread Gerhard Petracek
Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if the orchestra crew really, really wants it. If not, this should just be a separate sub-module in MyFaces. It is interesting

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-11 Thread Gerhard Petracek
think Mario has made some very good points... -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-10 Thread Martin Marinschek
. Mann wrote: I think Mario has made some very good points... -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-10 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if the orchestra crew really, really wants it. If not, this should just

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-10 Thread Gerhard Petracek
... -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position on this is we could make sev-en part

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-09 Thread Cagatay Civici
: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons module. I see what you're saying

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-09 Thread Volker Weber
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-09 Thread Thomas Spiegl
I think it's a good idea to add sev-en as an orchestra subproject. Would be nice to have a common place for documentation, common release plans release numbers. regards, Thomas On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! my position on this is we could

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-09 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if the orchestra crew really, really wants it. If not, this should just be a separate sub-module in MyFaces. It is interesting enough to stand on its own. First, Orchestra is part of the MyFaces community, so it really,

RE: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-09 Thread Kito D. Mann
I think Mario has made some very good points... -Original Message- From: Mario Ivankovits [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 5:14 AM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position on this is we could make

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-09 Thread Scott O'Bryan
] jsf validation with annotations Hi! my position on this is we could make sev-en part of orchestra, if the orchestra crew really, really wants it. If not, this should just be a separate sub-module in MyFaces. It is interesting enough to stand on its own. First, Orchestra is part

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-08 Thread Martin Marinschek
: From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-07 Thread Hazem Saleh
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM *To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons module. I see what you're saying. I suppose the main

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-07 Thread Gerhard Petracek
PM, Kito D. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM *To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-07 Thread Hazem Saleh
, 2008 2:47 PM *To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons module. I see what you're saying. I suppose the main issue is the size

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-05 Thread Gerhard Petracek
*To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons module. I see what you're saying. I suppose the main issue is the size of the module, and the number of perceived users

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! sev-en is a new jsf-extension. Looks Cool, I love it to see that a long standing idea now seems to be realized. You posted on the dev list .. cool .. you probably know we are developers too ... so .. where do we find the code? Or is it just a too-late April joke ;-) I think that would make

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! sev-en is a new jsf-extension. Looks Cool, I love it to see that a long standing idea now seems to be realized. You posted on the dev list .. cool .. you probably know we are developers too ... so .. where

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Martin Haimberger
Hi Gerhard, sounds fancy and simple! Nice work! I think i will take a closer look. How stable is it in the mean time? Regards, Martin On 4/3/08, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sev-en is a new jsf-extension. sev-en allows jsf validation with annotations! some central features:

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello mario, at the moment it's not available at a public repository. my current plan is to publish it within the next view weeks. i agree with you - sev-en would be a great myfaces module! regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! sev-en is a new jsf-extension.

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sev-en is a new jsf-extension. sev-en allows jsf validation with annotations! some central features: - cross-component validation (including cross-entity validation) - support for jpa based validation - zero

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello, @matthias: in my opinion the best solution would be an independent sub-project - e.g. myfaces sev-en @martin: it started just as private feasibility study. the demo works great. however, it needs e.g. junit test-cases, much more annotations and such things. (please note - the sev-en core

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello mario, today i uploaded an intermediate result of the demo. all information are available at the sev-en section of my blog [1]. regards, gerhard [1] http://os890.blogspot.com/search/label/sev-en 2008/4/4, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi! sev-en is a new jsf-extension.

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
Hi I have run the example on my tomcat installation. This works only with trinidad, or I can plug any jsf lib to use with (tomahawk or tobago) regards Leonardo Uribe

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
Another question If I have a validator, does exists annotations to use it like: @Validator(org.apache.myfaces.custom.emailvalidator.EmailValidator) private string email; Or the annotations should have defined inside sev-en regards Leonardo Uribe On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:26 AM,

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello leonardo, you don't need trinidad - i used it just for the demo! you will find the requirements at my blog [1] ;) regards, gerhard [1] http://os890.blogspot.com/2008/04/sev-en-framework-requirements.html 2008/4/4, Leonardo Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi I have run the example on my

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello leonardo, you don't need trinidad - i used it just for the demo! you will find the requirements at my blog [1] ;) And jdk 1.5 is required (myfaces 1.1 is for 1.4) regards, gerhard [1]

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Andrew Robinson
Since this is currently supported in Seam and Orchestra is a Seam spin-off/clone, perhaps this should be incorporated into Orchestra instead of yet another project. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:45 AM, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Gerhard

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello leonardo, once again (as mentioned within my blog): the core of sev-en is independent of specific annotations. - if you would like to have the mentioned annotation - implement and provide it. ;) you will find a short description at my blog [1] as you see within the demo: validators within

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello leonardo, that's right - because of the fact you are using annotations ;) regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Leonardo Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:48 AM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello leonardo, you don't need trinidad - i used it just for the

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
I have tried the demo on my workstation, and in my opinion is a very cool idea and this should be on myfaces :) The idea of include with myfaces-commons sounds better that put this on orchestra (someone could want to use this only). Maybe myfaces-commons-sev-en. regards Leonardo Uribe On Fri,

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello andrew, sev-en is completely independent of orchestra or the idea behind it. regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Andrew Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since this is currently supported in Seam and Orchestra is a Seam spin-off/clone, perhaps this should be incorporated into Orchestra instead of

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
And jdk 1.5 is required (myfaces 1.1 is for 1.4) @nnotation bring that requirement to the table. which is cool. That the CORE impl of JSF 1.1 needs Java1.4 doesn't mean, that every 1.1 complaint lib is also having that (poor) requirement ;-) -M regards, gerhard [1]

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello leonardo, concerning myfaces-commons-sev-en: i don't agree. it's similar if you suggest to merge myfaces-orchestra with myfaces-commons. - in my opinion that's not a good idea. sev-en should stay independent! + commons-sev-en sounds strage. :) (the pronunciation isn't [sev] ... [en] - it's

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Leonardo Uribe
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello leonardo, concerning myfaces-commons-sev-en: i don't agree. it's similar if you suggest to merge myfaces-orchestra with myfaces-commons. - in my opinion that's not a good idea. sev-en should stay independent!

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
hello leonardo, that's ok! :) it's great to have these discussions. regards, gerhard 2008/4/4, Leonardo Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Gerhard Petracek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello leonardo, concerning myfaces-commons-sev-en: i don't agree. it's

RE: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Kito D. Mann
PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:56 PM To: MyFaces Development Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello leonardo, concerning myfaces-commons-sev-en: i don't agree. it's similar if you suggest to merge myfaces-orchestra with myfaces-commons. - in my opinion that's

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
/ - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info phone: +1 203-653-2989 fax: +1 203-653-2988 *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 12:56 PM *To:* MyFaces Development *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello leonardo, concerning myfaces

RE: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Kito D. Mann
From: Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM To: MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons module. I see what you're saying. I suppose

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Gerhard Petracek
-implement-your-own.html 2008/4/4, Kito D. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: *From:* Gerhard Petracek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, April 04, 2008 2:47 PM *To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every

Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-04 Thread Cagatay Civici
PM *To:* MyFaces Development; [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Subject:* Re: [proposal] jsf validation with annotations hello kito, you can put every extension into a commons module. I see what you're saying. I suppose the main issue is the size of the module, and the number of perceived users

[proposal] jsf validation with annotations

2008-04-03 Thread Gerhard Petracek
sev-en is a new jsf-extension. sev-en allows jsf validation with annotations! some central features: - cross-component validation (including cross-entity validation) - support for jpa based validation - zero configuration - extensible (e.g. custom annotations) you will find some previews