Hi,
We build NB platform applications that shall run on 8 LTS. In our industry,
it is not easy to upgrade to 8+. No problem to move ahead as long
compatibility whith 8 is preserved.
Cheers,
JMB
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 2:13 AM Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about
23:03
À : Apache NetBeans
Objet : Re: Platform has to continue to support Java 8, imho was: Pull the plug
from Java 8 in 12.1?
Possible, probably yes. Might be quite some work to make it run, though.
Anyway - not sure if that would bring significant benefits if we wanted to keep
the platform on 8
d the netbeans with jdk 8+ ?
>
> Regards
> Eric
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Neil C Smith
> Envoyé : vendredi 28 février 2020 11:29
> À : dev
> Objet : Re: Platform has to continue to support Java 8, imho was: Pull the
> plug from Java 8 in 12.1?
>
> On F
th netbeans-platform jdk8 and the netbeans with jdk 8+ ?
>
> Regards
> Eric
> -Message d'origine-
> De : Neil C Smith
> Envoyé : vendredi 28 février 2020 11:29
> À : dev
> Objet : Re: Platform has to continue to support Java 8, imho was: Pull the
> plug from Java 8 in 12.
h
Envoyé : vendredi 28 février 2020 11:29
À : dev
Objet : Re: Platform has to continue to support Java 8, imho was: Pull the plug
from Java 8 in 12.1?
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 09:55, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> PS: The `nb-javac` issue: IGV is actually using Java editing modules,
> so we are inte
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 10:12, Tim Boudreau wrote:
> (there was a nasty backward incompatible change
> in the JDK, with some method on ByteBuffer getting changed to return
> ByteBuffer instead of Buffer, which has catastrophic consequences at
> runtime if you mix code compiled against JDK 8 and
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 09:55, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> PS: The `nb-javac` issue: IGV is actually using Java editing modules, so we
> are interested in having nb-javac working on JDK8. We bundle the `nb-javac`
> as part of IGV - e.g. there is no need to download `nb-javac`. Enough to
> use it when
FWIW, I still run NetBeans daily on JDK 8, for reasons of stability -
particularly assertion errors and other misbehavior from javac-related
editor code, whenever I've tried to use 10 or later.
And similarly, for libraries, everything I release on Maven central is
still built against JDK 8 (there
>> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
>> 12.1 and on?
>>
> -10
Laszlo wrote:
> Wow, that's a massive negative!
>
Right. I started up with as negative number as I could come up with. The
execution of NetBeans bits on JDK8 is important for me and my
Wow, that's a massive negative!
My first intention to pop up this thread was such concerns to turn up.
On 2/27/20 4:29 AM, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
čt 27. 2. 2020 v 2:13 odesílatel Laszlo Kishalmi
napsal:
Dear all,
What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
12.1
To my understanding this suggestion does not imply dropping the ability to
compile for Java 8, NetBeans is being build on Java 8 and can compile for
lower sources. This would mean that NetBeans will be build with Java 11 and
it will need at least Java11 as a runtime (netbeans_jdkhome) and like
Eirik
-Original Message-
From: Michele Costabile
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 8:55 AM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Pull the plug from Java 8 in 12.1?
I think that dropping the ability to compile for Java 8 should be out of
question, because there is a large ad
I think that dropping the ability to compile for Java 8 should be out of
question, because there is a large adoption of the platform and there are a few
license free alternatives, like Amazon Corretto, so even corporate developers
do not need to flee away from JDK 8 to protect the company from
I would totally agree on that one. (Especially as have 20 years of legacy code
reliant upon JDK8.
Dave Irving
On Thursday, 27 February 2020, 07:59:54 GMT, Geertjan Wielenga
wrote:
I think we may be a bit too eager to drop JDK 8. :-) Bear in mind that
would leave us supporting only
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 10:00, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> One thing to consider is that some/several application servers require JDK
> 8, or at least, when running NetBeans on a release later than JDK 8, a
> prompt appears when starting a server (GlassFish, Payara, etc) forcing a
> JDK 8 to be
Well, maybe we could discontinue nb-javac from 12.0 onwards, assuming the
javac tooling by then does most/all we need, which would not mean that the
OracleLabs scenario below is impacted since that use case is unrelated to
the Java editor, which is the only place where nb-javac is relevant. I.e.,
čt 27. 2. 2020 v 2:13 odesílatel Laszlo Kishalmi
napsal:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
-10
OracleLabs is building the GraalVM tools on top of NetBeans Platform. The
tools include such popular applications like
Completely agree with you. The most affected would be platform application
developers.
Do we have data on that?
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 7:13 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
> Neil mentioned it in
One thing to consider is that some/several application servers require JDK
8, or at least, when running NetBeans on a release later than JDK 8, a
prompt appears when starting a server (GlassFish, Payara, etc) forcing a
JDK 8 to be selected prior to the server being able to be started.
Gj
On Thu,
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 01:13, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on? .. Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding that we
> have issues
> with nb-javac from time to time.
Thanks for kicking this off! I would
I also feel it is a bit too early. Java 8 is still common in
production - for example this suggests 64% Java 8, 25% Java 11:
https://snyk.io/blog/developers-dont-want-to-leave-java-8-as-64-hold-firm-on-their-preferred-release/
(i know this is not necessarily a representative survey)
For people
Hi all,
I am not against it completely but in my opinion before dropping JDK 8 as
NB running JDK the following points must be addressed:
- Compile on Save functionality still requires nb-javac (even on JDK 11)
- Some application servers cannot run on JDK 11 this would mean needing
a
I think we may be a bit too eager to drop JDK 8. :-) Bear in mind that
would leave us supporting only one LTS release of the JDK, i.e., JDK 11.
Gj
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 08:46, Jan Lahoda wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Two comments:
> -I know some people that have NetBeans platform application, and target
Hi,
Two comments:
-I know some people that have NetBeans platform application, and target JDK
8. I hope they'll comment here.
-regarding JDK 11 and (nb-)javac - while the Java editing using JDK 11's
javac is possible, I think it still leaves a lot to be desired (for
example, IIRC, there were some
+1 to drop Support for Java 8 in NetBeans 12.1. If someone still wants to
run it on Java 8 he/she can use a previous release.
Laszlo Kishalmi schrieb am Do., 27. Feb. 2020,
02:13:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
> Neil
-Original Message-
From: Josh Juneau
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:49 PM
To: dev@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: Pull the plug from Java 8 in 12.1?
+1, for removing Java 8 as NetBeans runtime in 12.1. Many of us still compile
our code against Java 8 for Java EE projects, etc
+1, for removing Java 8 as NetBeans runtime in 12.1. Many of us still compile
our code against Java 8 for Java EE projects, etc., but that should not prevent
NetBeans runtime from moving forward.
Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
A decision long over-due.
On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:13 PM Laszlo Kishalmi
wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
> 12.1 and on?
>
> Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding that we have issues
> with nb-javac from time to
Dear all,
What do you think about stopping support Java 8 as NetBeans runtime from
12.1 and on?
Neil mentioned it in the user's chat first regarding that we have issues
with nb-javac from time to time.
As we know our mid term plan is/was to rely on javac tooling instead of
habing to
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