On 26/11/03 [EMAIL PROTECTED] did say:
> Confusing as to how you are planning to implement this -> "...we will be
> continuing to develop applications on top of our commercial release and as we
> make changes to GPL components we will release them to the community just as
> any other developer
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How can you do further development without an up-to-date base ? Or are you
> planning to use some other base of some nature ?
Although I can understand your curiosity about Mitel's plans, I see no
reason why your questions should be answered here.
On Wednesday 26 November 2003 05:58 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Devinfo list members,
>
> As has been hinted on this list, we are following Red Hat's lead with
> Fedora and turning the SME Server developer release over to the community.
>
> I d
On 26/11/03 Hsing-Foo Wang did say:
> Great news Michael,
>
> Would you like to get involved with the efforts over at contribs.org
> or help out from time to time? We really could use some help (If you
> emplyer permits you to contribute as a private person)
I'm sure that anyone who has worked
A little while ago I built some RPMs of tools reportedly useful for
blocking Kazaa and friends. I've done nothing about setting up
configuration for them, and I don't run Windoze so I don't really have a
need, but I'm sure someone will find these useful. Be sure to write up a
HOWTO when you do
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Devinfo list members,
As has been hinted on this list, we are following Red Hat's lead with
Fedora and turning the SME Server developer release over to the community.
I don't think that this should come as a big surprise to anyone who has
followed
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
> Like we said earlier, it's all about 'making an inventory' of the
> community wishes on the 'best way to proceed', and you are part of it so
> duely noted ;-)
IMO a wiki should be used for 'making an inventory' and a mailing list
(and why not this o
Like we said earlier, it's all about 'making an inventory' of the
community wishes on the 'best way to proceed', and you are part of it so
duely noted ;-)
Regards,
Hsing-Foo
Charlie Brady wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
contribs.org has opened a discussion thread on the recen
Well, that's the whole idea here. We are just wondering what the
community thinks, and what the 'best way to proceed' is. A list instead
or in addition to, all options are open.
Thanks for the feedback Charlie.
Charlie Brady wrote:
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
Since there are ma
Great news Michael,
Would you like to get involved with the efforts over at contribs.org or
help out from time to time?
We really could use some help (If you emplyer permits you to contribute
as a private person)
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 26/11/03 Hsing-Foo Wang did say:
So Michael,
does
I too are all for keeping this discussion on this list. This list was setup
for GPL Dev Info Discussions, lets keep them here.
I think that as and when a need for a seperate discussion forum is required
then contribs.org would be ok, but until that time I would like to see all
discussions kept
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 12:57:07PM -0800, Greg Zartman wrote:
> > To echo Charlie's question: what's wrong with this list?
>
> Well, if Mitel is throwing in the towel (so to speak), then this list
> will eventually go away. Further, this discussion has nothing to do
> with Mitel. It is a commu
To echo Charlie's question: what's wrong with this list?
Well, if Mitel is throwing in the towel (so to speak), then this list
will eventually go away. Further, this discussion has nothing to do
with Mitel. It is a community discussion. Contribs.org was setup to
discuss things like this, ther
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 15:30, Jeff Coleman wrote:
> Charlie,
>
> Your comment about a mailing list is appropriate. It is definitely easier
> to follow a thread on a list.
>
> We will setup a list shortly on contribs.org to discuss the future and
> potential of the e-smith release.
>
I couldn't
On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 01:30:53PM -0700, Jeff Coleman wrote:
> We will setup a list shortly on contribs.org to discuss the future and
> potential of the e-smith release.
To echo Charlie's question: what's wrong with this list?
Cheers,
Robert
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Charlie,
Your comment about a mailing list is appropriate. It is definitely easier
to follow a thread on a list.
We will setup a list shortly on contribs.org to discuss the future and
potential of the e-smith release.
John Cusick - my thoughts as to running this on a wicki at your site is that
On 26/11/03 Hsing-Foo Wang did say:
> So Michael,
>
> does this mean you are still in the 'core team' ?
As Dan mentioned, yes, I am.
Mike
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On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
> contribs.org has opened a discussion thread on the recent events.
>
> see: http://contribs.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=16
>
> Please continue the discussion there.
IMO, bulletin boards don't adequately support discussions. Can you not set
up a maili
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 13:58, Charlie Brady wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
>
> > Since there are many questions which all of us are stuggeling with,
> > contribs.org has begun contacting the major contributors from the
> > community to form a sort of 'brainstorm' team. The pu
@all,
contribs.org has opened a discussion thread on the recent events.
see: http://contribs.org/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=16
Please continue the discussion there. It's not about dicisions but share
thoughts and decide later ;-)
Thanks,
on behalf of the contribs.org team.
John Cusick wrote:
On We
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Hsing-Foo Wang wrote:
> Since there are many questions which all of us are stuggeling with,
> contribs.org has begun contacting the major contributors from the
> community to form a sort of 'brainstorm' team. The purpose of this
> 'brainstorm' thing is to provide a platfor
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 13:47, Darrell May wrote:
> IMO we should continue to use and support a single community site.
> Contribs.org seems to be the logical choice.
>
> Darrell
>
Whatever is decided is fine with me.
Its available for use if anyone wants it. Its simple, and now that I've
upgraded
To all,
Since there are many questions which all of us are stuggeling with,
contribs.org has begun contacting the major contributors from the
community to form a sort of 'brainstorm' team. The purpose of this
'brainstorm' thing is to provide a platform for discussion and idea's.
See contribs.o
IMO we should continue to use and support a single community site.
Contribs.org seems to be the logical choice.
Darrell
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On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 13:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This note from John about the wiki pinged me on a long-standing issue
> that I wanted to bring up at some point to this forum. For most of
> the past year, we have done very little at all to maintain the FAQ
> posted at http://www.e-smith.
This note from John about the wiki pinged me on a long-standing issue
that I wanted to bring up at some point to this forum. For most of
the past year, we have done very little at all to maintain the FAQ
posted at http://www.e-smith.org/faq/
At this point it's woefully out of date in many area
My opinion.
Mitel is a commercial business. Mitel acquired significant expertise from
e-smith, not the least of which was a core group of very talented people.
Mitel is moving that expertise to work on Mitel's various commercial
products.
What is the future of Mitel's open-source release? Answer
On Wed, 2003-11-26 at 10:21, Charlie Brady wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I don't see the move to Fedora being a huge leap ...
>
> You might be surprised.
>
> In any case, are you, or is anyone, stepping up to the plate?
>
> Setting up a wiki would be a good first s
Well...
> In order to be clear about that, they have both chosen to post using
> personal addresses.
Okay... so I was too quick on the trigger to notice that Charlie was
posting
using his Mitel address. :-)
The point is the same... there's no mystery... Gordon and Charlie have
just now moved i
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003, Greg Zartman wrote:
> > The SME Server is what this community makes it.
>
> Really? This is a pretty dramatic change in policy then... Up until
> now, it was made very clear that SME is what Mitel makes it and that
> this forum is for add-on development only.
Not from
Greg,
I will post further comments/explanations on this topic later today.
In the meantime, I just wanted to answer this:
> It is also very interesting the the old "Core" SME developers have
> stopped using their Mitel email addresses to comment on this list and
> the boards and are using pers
The SME Server is what this community makes it.
Really? This is a pretty dramatic change in policy then... Up until
now, it was made very clear that SME is what Mitel makes it and that
this forum is for add-on development only.
It is also very interesting the the old "Core" SME developers hav
Mitel:
>> capable people on this list, both inside and outside Mitel. A release
>> based on Fedora core looks to be a good starting place - who's >>willing
>> to take up the challenge?
This sounds to me alot like the end of Mitel SME server.
As a registered Servicelink user, I'd like to get a str
So Michael,
does this mean you are still in the 'core team' ?
Michael P. Soulier wrote:
On 26/11/03 Gordon Rowell did say:
For those who have been wondering, I have also moved on to work on other
Linux-related developments within Mitel. Charlie and I have spent over
three years on this, and it'
On 26/11/03 Gordon Rowell did say:
> For those who have been wondering, I have also moved on to work on other
> Linux-related developments within Mitel. Charlie and I have spent over
> three years on this, and it's time for something new.
We will, however, be tapping Gordon and Charlie's cons
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I don't see the move to Fedora being a huge leap ...
You might be surprised.
In any case, are you, or is anyone, stepping up to the plate?
Setting up a wiki would be a good first step.
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On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 08:13:46AM -0500, Gordon Rowell wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:48:59PM -0600, John Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [...]
> > Sorry to hear that. Does that mean I need to find a new distro?
>
> The SME Server is what this community makes it. There are plenty of
Gordon,
Thanks for your efforts and coorporation.
Good luck with yur new job(s)
Just wondering though
Since Redhat gave up on the RedHat distro (freely available version)
it's clear that Mitel can no longer follow the path of RH releases.
You suggest that the Fedora is a good place to start
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 10:48:59PM -0600, John Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> Sorry to hear that. Does that mean I need to find a new distro?
The SME Server is what this community makes it. There are plenty of
capable people on this list, both inside and outside Mitel. A release
bas
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 09:39:40PM -0600, Darrell May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've just placed anaconda-7.3-7es115.i386.rpm in the 6.0dev/SRPMS
>
> Thanks Gordon. Sorry for not being clearer. I'd asked for 'binaries' as
> IIUC the one src rpm should produce both 'anaconda' and 'anaconda-r
Le Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:00 AM [GMT+1=CET],
Charlie Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit:
> I've moved on to other (still Linux related) duties inside Mitel, and
> am no longer leading technical development of the SME server
> software. But I'll still be around here, and will be doing some
>
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