Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread Tony via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 17 November 2017 at 14:57:52 UTC, Stas wrote: I use and highly recommend Codelobster: http://www.codelobster.com But I would hope you don't recommend it for D language development. "Details of Codelobster: Our goal is to create product which would simplify and speed up to the ma

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread user1234 via Digitalmars-d
On Friday, 17 November 2017 at 14:57:52 UTC, Stas wrote: I use and highly recommend Codelobster: http://www.codelobster.com https://s3.amazonaws.com/EarthwatchMedia/GalleryImages/unearthing-ancient-history-in-tuscany-c.-archeodig-h1_2196.jpg

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread Satoshi via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 13 October 2010 at 01:58:19 UTC, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike vim

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d
On 11/17/17 1:30 PM, bauss wrote: On Wednesday, 13 October 2010 at 01:58:19 UTC, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet.  What do actual D programmers use?

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread bauss via Digitalmars-d
On Wednesday, 13 October 2010 at 01:58:19 UTC, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike I use Atom, so not reall

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread SrMordred via Digitalmars-d
I keep jumping between VSCode and SublimeText3 atm using ST3. (but they are not IDEs ;P)

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2017-11-17 Thread Stas via Digitalmars-d
I use and highly recommend Codelobster: http://www.codelobster.com

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-11-01 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 29/10/2010 21:29, dolive wrote: Bruno Medeiros дµ½: On 13/10/2010 03:20, Eric Poggel wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for me. P

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Iain Buclaw
== Quote from bioinfornatics (bioinfornat...@fedoraproject.org)'s article > yes, > is not against you work, it is as a packager point of view. > while gdc will be not a gcc project, gdc can not be go in fedora. That's not how I understand it. Fedora ships GCC-4.5 (not 4.4), and will shortly switch

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread bioinfornatics
yes, is not against you work, it is as a packager point of view. while gdc will be not a gcc project, gdc can not be go in fedora. and gdc do not follow gcc stable version because is not a gcc project Same as said et start of this thread is not against your nice job. I know for gdc becomme a g

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Iain Buclaw
== Quote from bioinfornatics (bioinfornat...@fedoraproject.org)'s article > about compiler, for me: > - gdc is not a gcc project How is that a valid excuse?

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Bruno Medeiros wrote: > On 16/10/2010 10:50, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote: >> Same here, no IDE I've seen is able to format code and comments as >> well as (X)Emacs. >> >> Jerome > > Interesting. For anyone else who shares that opinion, what are the IDE's > that you have seen? In particula

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread bioinfornatics
about compiler, for me: - dmd is not full open source - gdc is not a gcc project - ldc is godd compiler but they are some unfixed bug left since a long time ei gtkd build so i choose ldc About ide i use codeblocks and for build my project i use my own makefile system

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread retard
Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:35:38 -0400, dolive wrote: > Bruno Medeiros ÐŽµœ: > >> On 13/10/2010 03:20, Eric Poggel wrote: >> > On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: >> >> Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a >> >> release. Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at wor

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread dolive
Bruno Medeiros дµ½: > On 13/10/2010 03:20, Eric Poggel wrote: > > On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > >> Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. > >> Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for > >> me. Poseidon is also Win

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread dolive
Bruno Medeiros дµ½: > On 13/10/2010 03:20, Eric Poggel wrote: > > On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > >> Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. > >> Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for > >> me. Poseidon is also Win

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 16/10/2010 10:50, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote: Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 16:24 -0700, Jonathan M Davis wrote: [ . . . ] Proper code completion, correctly jumping to function definitions, and various other features that IDEs generally do well tend to be quite poor in vim. It can

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 13/10/2010 04:15, so wrote: I guess it is wording. Hmm say... Does Java come with a standard gui library? Yes. Does C come with a standard gui library? No. C didn't need a gui library to be successful, and didn't come with one. On the other hand Java/C# have to have one, packed, and they do

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 13/10/2010 08:07, Peter Alexander wrote: On 13/10/10 4:15 AM, so wrote: Does Java come with a standard gui library? Yes. Does C come with a standard gui library? No. C didn't need a gui library to be successful, and didn't come with one. On the other hand Java/C# have to have one, packed, an

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-29 Thread Bruno Medeiros
On 13/10/2010 03:20, Eric Poggel wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for me. Poseidon is also Windows-only. Descent is dead? The change

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-16 Thread Gour D.
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:59:10 -0500 >> "Andrei" == Andrei Alexandrescu wrote: Andrei> Yah. Emacs' formatting abilities are like real estate prices in Andrei> Houston: once you got calibrated to them, it's hard to move Andrei> away. It looks there is no perfect IDE for D available (yet) - Qt is

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-16 Thread Michel Fortin
On 2010-10-12 21:57:44 -0400, Michael Stover said: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? I'm using Xcode, with the D plugin for Xcode I mad

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-16 Thread Sönke Ludwig
Am 14.10.2010 11:46, schrieb Anders F Björklund: Sönke Ludwig wrote: Code::Blocks: Works quite well for Windows and Linux, except for some occasional dependency problems because of single-file compilation. Unusable on Mac because of keyboard shortcut issues. Project and build option configurati

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-16 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu
On 10/16/10 4:50 CDT, "Jérôme M. Berger" wrote: Same here, no IDE I've seen is able to format code and comments as well as (X)Emacs. Yah. Emacs' formatting abilities are like real estate prices in Houston: once you got calibrated to them, it's hard to move away. Andrei

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-16 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Russel Winder wrote: > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 16:24 -0700, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > [ . . . ] >> Proper code completion, correctly jumping to function definitions, and >> various >> other features that IDEs generally do well tend to be quite poor in vim. It >> can >> do many of them on some lev

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-15 Thread Jérôme M. Berger
Gary Whatmore wrote: > Paulo Pinto Wrote: > >> Haskell, F#, Ada, just to name a few. > > Ivory tower bu***it. > Haskell, probably, F#, a bit young to say, Ada has been used in large real-world projects (mostly where high reliability is required like in the aerospace industry). >> , C#,

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread bearophile
Paulo Pinto: > Are you also aware of Habit? > http://www.galois.com/blog/2010/05/12/tech-talk-developing-good-habits-for-bare-metal-programming/ I saw the video about Habit, but I was not so impressed, it's a bit simplified Haskell variant fitter for low-level code. I haven't seen many new ideas

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread Paulo Pinto
Thanks for the hint. Are you also aware of Habit? http://www.galois.com/blog/2010/05/12/tech-talk-developing-good-habits-for-bare-metal-programming/ Am 13.10.2010 13:22, schrieb bearophile: -- Paulo Pinto: if you want to invent some kind of high level assembler, the res

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Johansson
On 15/10/2010 12:16 AM, so wrote: It looks to me that you are the one without a point here, why do you reply a line but ignore the part that matters? :) Maybe you are right and, even though I reread your OP, I missed your salient point. Can your please rephrase so that I can sync on your chann

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread so
It looks to me that you are the one without a point here, why do you reply a line but ignore the part that matters? :) On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 16:00:26 +0300, Justin Johansson wrote: On 14/10/2010 11:32 PM, so wrote: A language should not limit you, some people might like it, i don't. Render

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread Justin Johansson
On 14/10/2010 11:32 PM, so wrote: A language should not limit you, some people might like it, i don't. Render your programming opus in Assembler then. There are no limitations in what you can do in Assembly Language and, to a lesser degree, in slightly higher level languages/run-time engines s

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread so
A language should not limit you, some people might like it, i don't. No need to waste time on this, if you believe those languages can do things that you say, write a simple but competitive ray/pathtracer. No need to use sse or any fancy stuff, just bare compiler with its standard library,

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread Russel Winder
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 07:58 -0400, bearophile wrote: [ . . . ] > I agree, for some people 'high performance' means the automatic > slicing and tiling of loops as done by advanced Fortran compilers, > something that C/C++ compiler have just started to do a bit, and are > far from doing well still.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread bearophile
retard: > 'High performance' and 'system language' are both badly defined. I agree, for some people 'high performance' means the automatic slicing and tiling of loops as done by advanced Fortran compilers, something that C/C++ compiler have just started to do a bit, and are far from doing well

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread retard
Thu, 14 Oct 2010 13:28:27 +0300, so wrote: >> What's your definition of a "system language"? Being able to write >> operating systems, OS drivers, kernel mode applications, embedded small >> footprint applications, server applications, games, simulations, HPC? >> If you only need one of these doma

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread so
When it comes to programming languages, the C/C++ audience isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer. In fact they most likely reject any other language if the syntax and semantics aren't 95% the same. I don't give a damn about syntax being C like or not, if it is good at expressing things, that

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread Anders F Björklund
Sönke Ludwig wrote: Code::Blocks: Works quite well for Windows and Linux, except for some occasional dependency problems because of single-file compilation. Unusable on Mac because of keyboard shortcut issues. Project and build option configuration is a bit complicated and the toolchain-s

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread retard
Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:01:11 +0300, so wrote: > On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:24:00 +0300, Paulo Pinto > wrote: > >> Haskell, F#, C#, Scala, Ada, just to name a few. > All these languages you named are useless for C/C++ audience. They might > be (i like Haskell) good for expressing certain kind of tasks.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread so
All these languages you named are useless for C/C++ audience. They might be (i like Haskell) good for expressing certain kind of tasks. Go write the next big OS/game/RT simulation/any performance related project in any of those. None of them are "system language". On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:24:0

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-14 Thread Sönke Ludwig
Code::Blocks: Works quite well for Windows and Linux, except for some occasional dependency problems because of single-file compilation. Unusable on Mac because of keyboard shortcut issues. Project and build option configuration is a bit complicated and the toolchain-settings need to be twea

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 16:24 -0700, Jonathan M Davis wrote: [ . . . ] > Proper code completion, correctly jumping to function definitions, and > various > other features that IDEs generally do well tend to be quite poor in vim. It > can > do many of them on some level, but for instance, while ct

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 18:01 -0400, Gary Whatmore wrote: > Paulo Pinto Wrote: > > > Haskell, F#, Ada, just to name a few. > > Ivory tower bu***it. > > >, C#, F#, Scala > > Run in a VM > SLOW == impractical This is either a simple intentional troll and therefore of zero value, or you are sho

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread sybrandy
On 10/13/2010 07:43 PM, retard wrote: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:24:12 -0700, Jonathan M Davis wrote: On Wednesday, October 13, 2010 16:06:18 sybrandy wrote: On 10/12/2010 09:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. L

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Jimmy Cao
Seems to be mainly for Java development. On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 6:43 PM, retard wrote: > Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:24:12 -0700, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > > > On Wednesday, October 13, 2010 16:06:18 sybrandy wrote: > >> On 10/12/2010 09:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > >> > Elephant appears dead. Posei

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread retard
Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:24:12 -0700, Jonathan M Davis wrote: > On Wednesday, October 13, 2010 16:06:18 sybrandy wrote: >> On 10/12/2010 09:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: >> > Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is >> > still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Wednesday, October 13, 2010 16:06:18 sybrandy wrote: > On 10/12/2010 09:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > > Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still > > alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a > > release yet. What do actual D programm

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Clark Gaebel
That's kind of useless flame. Personally, I find Haskell to be a very beautiful (and useful) language. Just because it isn't meant for all tasks doesn't mean its "ivory tower bullshit". C#, F#, and Scala are all JITed, and JIT compilation has been known to perform quite well in recent benchmarks.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread sybrandy
On 10/12/2010 09:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike I stick with Vim. Who needs anything else? :P Ca

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Gary Whatmore
Paulo Pinto Wrote: > Haskell, F#, Ada, just to name a few. Ivory tower bu***it. >, C#, F#, Scala Run in a VM > SLOW == impractical - G.W.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Paulo Pinto
Haskell, F#, C#, Scala, Ada, just to name a few. "so" wrote in message news:op.vkihiohj7dt...@so-pc... > Name one? > >> If it wasn't for C++, there are plenty of other powerfull languages out >> there. >> >> -- >> Paulo >> >> "so" wrote in message news:op.vkh2s0mg7dt...@so-pc... >>> Well, same g

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread retard
Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:02:04 -0400, Eric Poggel wrote: > On 10/12/2010 10:22 PM, Michael Stover wrote: >> Why would I laugh? > > A lot of people say eclipse is slow and bloated. Maybe it is, but it > has a lot of killer features. We already discussed this a week or two ago. Eclipse *with useless

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2010-10-13 18:02, Eric Poggel wrote: On 10/12/2010 10:22 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Why would I laugh? A lot of people say eclipse is slow and bloated. Maybe it is, but it has a lot of killer features. The start up time for Eclipse 3.6 has approved a lot compared to 3.5. -- /Jacob Carlbor

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Eric Poggel
On 10/12/2010 10:22 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Why would I laugh? A lot of people say eclipse is slow and bloated. Maybe it is, but it has a lot of killer features.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Eric Poggel
On 10/12/2010 10:22 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Why would I laugh? I've been using Eclipse for nearly 10 years. Descent claims to be a dead project, so I'm curious that you say you use it - what version of Eclipse are you using with it? DDT is it's replacement and it has no release. On Tue, Oc

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Iain Buclaw
== Quote from Daniel Gibson (metalcae...@gmail.com)'s article > Michael Stover schrieb: > > Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is > > still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't > > have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? > > > >

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread bearophile
Jimmy Cao: > I agree with you very much here. GUI libraries and IDE support are very low > priority items for D. Yet, here we have discussed few times features that help the creation of GUI toolkit (see as example the changes over C++ language done by QT). -- Paulo Pinto:

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread so
Name one? If it wasn't for C++, there are plenty of other powerfull languages out there. -- Paulo "so" wrote in message news:op.vkh2s0mg7dt...@so-pc... Well, same goes for C++, year 2010 and we are not getting a standard gui library (not saying it is necessary) For the second part, C might

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"Denis Koroskin" <2kor...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:op.vkiag4zbo7c...@korden-pc... > On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:20:12 +0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: > >> "Michael Stover" wrote in message >> news:mailman.563.1286935070.858.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... >>> Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's a

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2010-10-13 10:05, Russel Winder wrote: On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 08:07 +0100, Peter Alexander wrote: [ . . . ] Like it or not, in this day and age, people expect GUI libraries and IDEs. In fact, most programmers have no idea how to compile code without an IDE. Moreover, most people think that th

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Paulo Pinto
That is only because the standard comitee does not want to favour a vendor over the other. And usually the standards comitee for C and C++ only make part of the standard existing practices. C is the responsible for many of the security exploits we have to endure nowadays. The last time I used pr

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Jacob Carlborg
On 2010-10-13 03:57, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike Still using Eclipse with Descent as the IDE and TextM

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Anders F Björklund
Robert Jacques wrote: Do you use a plugin for Code::Blocks specific for D? Code::blocks supports D out of the box. No plugin required. The Code::Blocks 8.02 and 10.05 releases support DMD and GDC... LDC support has been added too, in the latest "Nightly builds". --anders

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Juanjo Alvarez
Michael Stover Wrote: > Elephant appears dead.  Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still > alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release > yet.  What do actual D programmers use?-Mike I don't want to sound like one of those Unix condescending users (htt

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Lars T. Kyllingstad
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 21:57:44 -0400, Michael Stover wrote: > Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is > still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't > have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? My "IDE" is rather ad-hoc: I use Termin

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread #ponce
I've used Crimson Editor for a very long time (Aldacron too) because it's very easy to configure and create custom syntax files. Now Visual D got me.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Olivier Pisano
Le 13/10/2010 03:57, Michael Stover a écrit : Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike I use Visual D and JEdit. Olivier.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Denis Koroskin
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:20:12 +0400, Nick Sabalausky wrote: "Michael Stover" wrote in message news:mailman.563.1286935070.858.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn'

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Denis Koroskin
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 05:57:44 +0400, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike I mostly use Notepad++ (Windows) f

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Russel Winder
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 08:07 +0100, Peter Alexander wrote: [ . . . ] > Like it or not, in this day and age, people expect GUI libraries and > IDEs. In fact, most programmers have no idea how to compile code without > an IDE. Moreover, most people think that the IDE and the language are > the *sa

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"torhu" wrote in message news:i93h03$24f...@digitalmars.com... > On 13.10.2010 06:20, Nick Sabalausky wrote: >> "Michael Stover" wrote in message >> news:mailman.563.1286935070.858.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... >>> Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is >>> still

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-13 Thread Peter Alexander
On 13/10/10 4:15 AM, so wrote: Does Java come with a standard gui library? Yes. Does C come with a standard gui library? No. C didn't need a gui library to be successful, and didn't come with one. On the other hand Java/C# have to have one, packed, and they do come with (at least)one. If your l

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread so
Well, same goes for C++, year 2010 and we are not getting a standard gui library (not saying it is necessary) For the second part, C might owe its fame to Unix, i don't know it is true or not. But you have to admit it is a great language. Still there are many C programmers out there and i a

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Matthias Pleh
Am 13.10.2010 03:57, schrieb Michael Stover: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike win32 -> VisualD linux -> CodeBlocks

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread torhu
On 13.10.2010 06:20, Nick Sabalausky wrote: "Michael Stover" wrote in message news:mailman.563.1286935070.858.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Paulo Pinto
Of course it did not require one. On those days GUIs were rare, and if you want to develop for Unix, C was the only option. C got famous because of Unix. C on its own would never had survived as a language. "so" wrote in message news:op.vkhvb01i7dt...@so-pc... >I guess it is wording. > Hmm sa

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Nick Sabalausky
"Michael Stover" wrote in message news:mailman.563.1286935070.858.digitalmar...@puremagic.com... > Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still > alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a > release yet. What do actual D programmers use? >

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Jimmy Cao
I agree with you very much here. GUI libraries and IDE support are very low priority items for D. It would be a sad day for everyone if the people working on the dmd and Phobos dropped their current work and started working on an IDE. So, low priority doesn't mean it can't be done until the higher

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread so
Editors are designed for specific people, editors :) All IDE's out there i have seen based on these editors. You ask what actual programmers use, they mostly use these editors, i was one of those, and i curse those times. I am not an editor but a code writer, two different things, and the dif

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread so
I guess it is wording. Hmm say... Does Java come with a standard gui library? Yes. Does C come with a standard gui library? No. C didn't need a gui library to be successful, and didn't come with one. On the other hand Java/C# have to have one, packed, and they do come with (at least)one. If

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Walter Bright
Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? microEmacs

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Jimmy Cao
2010/10/12 so > Don't take it personal but this is one of those : > "if D really wants to compete, a is essential." > > C doesn't have one, neither C++, nor assembly. There are IDE's for them yes > but again, these languages don't have an actual IDE, IDE's are useful mostly > for form based or c

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Austin Hastings
On 10/12/2010 9:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike From: p...@athena.mit.edu (Patrick J. LoPresti) Sub

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread so
Don't take it personal but this is one of those : "if D really wants to compete, a is essential." C doesn't have one, neither C++, nor assembly. There are IDE's for them yes but again, these languages don't have an actual IDE, IDE's are useful mostly for form based or corporate languages, yo

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread bearophile
Michael Stover Wrote: > Seems to me if D really wants to compete, a modern IDE is essential. You have no idea how many "essential" things are required to "compete" ;-) But language design, std library and compiler come first. If you compiler has too many bugs, an IDE will not save you. Bye, bea

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Stover
Read it's home page. In bold letters, it says *This project is dead. Please use http://code.google.com/a/eclipselabs.org/p/ddt/* * * *I take them at the word since I don't know any better :-) * On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Eric Poggel wrote: > On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: >

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Jonathan M Davis
On Tuesday 12 October 2010 18:57:44 Michael Stover wrote: > Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still > alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a > release yet. What do actual D programmers use? > > -Mike I use vim (well, gvim technical

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Jimmy Cao
Perhaps it's just like D 1.0 and it's only in maintenance mode, until DDT officially releases. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Eric Poggel wrote: > On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > >> Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. >> Also, I'm running Li

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Eric Poggel
On 10/12/2010 10:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for me. Poseidon is also Windows-only. Descent is dead? The change log shows recent activity (http://dso

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread BCS
Hello Michael, Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? Real life has gotten in the way for a while but if, make that when, I go back I expec

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Stover
Why would I laugh? I've been using Eclipse for nearly 10 years. Descent claims to be a dead project, so I'm curious that you say you use it - what version of Eclipse are you using with it? DDT is it's replacement and it has no release. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Eric Poggel wrote: > On

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Eric Poggel
On 10/12/2010 9:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike As an Eclipse fan (don't laugh!) I've been using Desc

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Robert Jacques
On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:11:33 -0400, Michael Stover wrote: Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for me. Poseidon is also Windows-only. Do you use a plugin for Code::Blocks specific for

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Stover
Seems to me if D really wants to compete, a modern IDE is essential. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Clark Gaebel wrote: > Doesn't really count as an IDE, but I use vim for all development, and > the d-syntax package from the d overlay in gentoo portage was all I > really needed to get started

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Jimmy Cao
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. > Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for > me. Poseidon is also Windows-only. > > Do you use a plugin for Code::Blocks specific for D

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Daniel Gibson
Michael Stover schrieb: Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike For Windows http://d-ide.sourceforge.net/ is probably great. I use Gea

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Clark Gaebel
Doesn't really count as an IDE, but I use vim for all development, and the d-syntax package from the d overlay in gentoo portage was all I really needed to get started. Kudos to the maintainer of the d portage overlay by the way. Your work is appreciated! On 10/12/10 22:01, Jimmy Cao wrote: > I'

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Stover
Descent is a dead project, replaced by DDT which doesn't have a release. Also, I'm running Linux at home and Mac at work, so VisualD won't do for me. Poseidon is also Windows-only. Do you use a plugin for Code::Blocks specific for D? On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Jimmy Cao wrote: > I'm by

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Adam D. Ruppe
I use vim.

Re: What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Jimmy Cao
I'm by no means an "actual D programmer" but I like to use Code::Blocks. I've heard VisualD and Descent are also very nice. There's also a guy working on D.dev ( http://d-dev-ide.blogspot.com/2010/07/ddev-progress-july-2010.html). On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Michael Stover wrote: > Elephant

What do people here use as an IDE?

2010-10-12 Thread Michael Stover
Elephant appears dead. Poseidon's activity is extremely low and is still alpha after 5 years. LEDS is even less active, and DDT doesn't have a release yet. What do actual D programmers use? -Mike

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