On 08/13/2010 07:08 PM, Andy obrien wrote:
WE9XLQ us not a valid USA callsign
It may not be a ham callsign, but it is a valid callsign...
EXPERIMENTAL SPECIAL TEMPORARY AUTHORIZATION
CLASS of Station XD FX
EMISSION Designator SK25J2D
Experition 3:00 AM EST Jan 31 2011.
Call Sign WE9XLQ
--
WE9XLQ us not a valid USA callsign
Andy
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
What ?
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Rein A rein...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Hello All,
Mr. Ros has just corrected the statement on the official ROS Modem
Website regarding
OK, Thanks for your answer :)
LA5VNA Steinar
On 03.08.2010 07:06, Tony wrote:
Steinar,
I've been monitoring ROS on-the-air and I've done some testing with the
HF path simulator. In my opinion, it's about as good as one would expect
from an MFSK mode with a relatively slow baud rate.
On 8/1/2010 7:31 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
Hi Tony
Have you done some test comparing ros with mods like psk31 , rtty ,
olivia etc?
Yes I have Steinar
Tony -K2MO
a5vna Steinar
On 20.07.2010 03:42, Tony wrote:
All,
With all the attention ROS has been getting lately, I thought it
OK, is it public ? I can't find anything on digitalradio yahoogroup
LA5VNA Steinar
On 02.08.2010 12:58, Tony wrote:
On 8/1/2010 7:31 AM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
Hi Tony
Have you done some test comparing ros with mods like psk31 , rtty ,
olivia etc?
Yes I have Steinar
Tony -K2MO
Steinar,
I've been monitoring ROS on-the-air and I've done some testing with the
HF path simulator. In my opinion, it's about as good as one would expect
from an MFSK mode with a relatively slow baud rate. Tests show that it
will outperform RTTY and PSK31 in poor channel conditions (most MFSK
Hi Steinar,
Unfortunately, v4.8.x of ROS still spams the DX Cluster with auto-spots.
Only way to effectively stop is block adif.exe at the firewall.
ROS Auto-Spots too Cluster currently represent 98% of all ROS Cluster
spots, with ROS representing 6.2% of all Cluster spots (7 day period).
As
Thanks for the testing Tony. We observe Doppler shifts of as much as 100
Hz and Doppler spreads around 50 Hz or greater. On SSB phone, a S3
signal will not be intelligible and you can hear the voice pitch go down
in a fluttering manner. ROS definitely produces nothing but garbage when
SSB
Tony,
Our on-air tests show that ROS 16 baud, 2200 Hz wide spread spectrum was
very poor on UHF under Doppler spreading. Can you confirm this with
flutter tests like Jaak has done on
http://contestia.blogspot.com/p/pathsim_09.html ?
73, Skip KH6TY
On 7/19/2010 9:42 PM, Tony wrote:
All,
On 7/20/2010 3:54 PM, KH6TY wrote:
Our on-air tests show that ROS 16 baud, 2200 Hz wide spread spectrum
was very poor on UHF under Doppler spreading. Can you confirm this with
flutter tests like Jaak has done.
Skip,
My path tests show that ROS is less tolerant to Doppler spread than
Olivia
Well, old modes like rtty has its charm, but as the ultimate contest
mode it makes more trouble for the ham community when it is flooding the
hole band, than fix frequency modes like ROS.
The only problem with ROS is its developer, with his strange behavior.
la5vna Steinar
On
It would appear that what is does best is the continued mutilation of horse
corpses.
de Curt KC8STE/AAR5VR
73
--- On Wed, 7/14/10, J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com wrote:
From: J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS back bigger and better !
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date
Whats so dang fantastic about ROS anyway, that it deserves pages and pages
of emails about it? Remember that other new digital mode a few months ago,
and how great it was, or have you forgotten abouit it already?
73 Buddy WB4M
RTTY forever
- Original Message -
From: Steinar Aanesland
What mode are you talking about? I'm interested.
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 4:59 PM, F.R. Ashley gda...@clearwire.net wrote:
Whats so dang fantastic about ROS anyway, that it deserves pages and pages
of emails about it? Remember that other new digital mode a few months ago,
and how great it
Your Subject says ROS is better. Where can I read about the changes and
improvements? Can users control whether ROS should generate the artificial
spots?
Jim - K6JM
- Original Message -
From: Peter L. Jackson
To: * Digitalradio
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 6:37 PM
Google to learn that expression.
-Original Message-
From: James Hall hall.jam...@gmail.com hall.jamesr%40gmail.com
Sent: Jul 8, 2010 4:00 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Looks like
://groups.yahoo.com/group/rosmodemusa/
Not very popular just 18 subscribers ( almost 4000 here )
73 Rein W6SZ
http://www.nitehawk.com/rasmit/
-Original Message-
From: James Hall hall.jam...@gmail.com
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 11:09 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS
Just goes to show that he reads the boards and keeps track of what is going
on.
Now, how easy would it be to program a button to disable the function with
one toggle in the software? Very easy! Then he could open it to everyone
to decide whether they want the reporting or not. Since he won't
With this action (or inaction) from Mr ROS and considering all of his
past actions/comments it becomes clear (to me) that he has an agenda and
Hams are being used as beta-testers to help fulfil his ultimate goal.
He has shown several times an unwillingness to embrace Ham Spirit and
Ham
Looks like this is a DX Cluster server available on the Internet running a
software package called DXSpider.
http://wiki.dxcluster.org/index.php/Main_Page Doesn't seem to be nefarious
at all to me. Telnet in, give your callsign and it'll start giving you info.
I have no clue how to read this but
: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Looks like this is a DX Cluster server available on the Internet running a
software package called DXSpider.
http://wiki.dxcluster.org/index.php/Main_Page Doesn't seem to be nefarious
at all to me. Telnet in, give your callsign and it'll start giving you info
At 08:58 AM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
extremely wicked; nefarious schemes; a villainous plot; a villainous
band of thieves
Rein are you trying to tell us that NONE of this never happened ?
The list of banned, and other thing that have been posted that this
program has been said to do.
This
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
At 08:58 AM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
extremely wicked; nefarious schemes; a villainous plot; a villainous
band of thieves
Rein are you trying to tell us that NONE of this never happened ?
The list of banned, and other thing that have been
Sorry Rein -
Please forgive as that was about the time I was having big time
computer problems. Lost a bunch of emails.
what was that my final question again.
John, W0JAB
-
From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 1:14 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Sorry Rein -
Please forgive as that was about the time I was having big time
computer problems. Lost a bunch of emails.
what
/
-Original Message-
From: rein...@ix.netcom.com [mailto:rein...@ix.netcom.com]
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 12:43 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
OK John.
Understood.
Did it work on your computer?
Did it work
After loading a updated version as he said that everyone
needed to do. After entering my call it would not work.
Just like others have posted that they could no longer use it.
I have not tried it again and will not try it.
Touch a hot stove and get burned one will not touch it again.
I will
I think many would like to have a answer once and for all
on this issue if some have been banned from using the
software.
John, W0JAB
digitalradio co moderator
At 12:54 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
Could this ROS discussion be taken offline or elsewhere?
I expect others, like I, are sick of the
: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
I think many would like to have a answer once and for all
on this issue if some have been banned from using the
software.
John, W0JAB
digitalradio co moderator
At 12:54 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
Could this ROS discussion be taken offline
-river.net
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
I think many would like to have a answer once and for all
on this issue if some have been banned from using the
software.
John, W0JAB
digitalradio co moderator
At 12:54
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
John,
Who is Andy, K3UK?
Andy is the list owner.
And yes anyone can discuss ROS at any point and time.
And many are still looking for an answer of why
some (at one point or another) was banned from using
the program.
Now you seem to be a spokesperson for
[mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of rein...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 2:59 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
John,
Why not give it a serious try? It's is worth getting to the bottom of this
or perhaps
The discussion of the persona-non-grata list was started here:
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=239742highlight=ros. It starts
getting pretty interesting around page 4 or 5.
In March, the list consisted of the following calls: *
to be involved. Please let me just play. I am tired, don't bother me
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 2:18 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
I think many would
AA6YQ comments below
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of John Becker, WOJAB
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 3:01 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
And many
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:47:51PM -0700, Jeff Moore wrote:
As for the 3000 people that are being quiet on this list, how much of
that is that they don't want to be singled out by a psychotic non-ham
software author for inclusion in his list??
This is my first -- and, I hope, my last -- post
issues related to digital modes? A digital mode with a list of
banned calls?
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: Dave AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 3:52 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
AA6YQ comments below
: mikea mi...@mikea.ath.cx
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 4:11 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
On Fri, Jul 09, 2010 at 12:47:51PM -0700, Jeff Moore wrote:
As for the 3000 people that are being quiet on this list, how much of
that is that they don't
Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Moore tnetcen...@gmail.com
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 3:47 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Given the author's animosity toward certain hams, the fact that he stated he
was doing a persona non
AA6YQ comments below
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of rein...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 4:31 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Hi
-Original Message-
From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 3:01 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
At 01:44 PM 7/9/2010, you wrote:
John,
Who is Andy, K3UK?
Andy is the list owner.
And yes
AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com
Sent: Jul 9, 2010 5:16 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
AA6YQ comments below
-Original Message-
From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on
Behalf Of rein
Hello Steinar,
Are you telling me that people are sending those calls to the cluster and then
from there end up at the HAMSPOTS site, and never actually use those calls in
transmissions?
Just noticed a call sign from somebody, some 25 miles from here, logged on the
Twente WEBSDR!
73 Rein
At 02:28 PM 7/8/2010, you wrote:
Hi Rain
You have absolutely right . ROS are sending data from your PC to the
cluster. Try to type the IP address 90.225.73.203:8000 into your
browser and you get this:
Why would it telnet to an IP address in Sweden?
...@broadpark.no
Sent: Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Yes , that is what is seems to me Rein.
Let me try to explain the in my Norwegian English.
Lest assume you are on mister ROS's hate list, but what to test the
software i
: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
Sent: Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS are sending data from your PC
Yes , that is what is seems to me Rein.
Let me try to explain the in my Norwegian English.
Lest assume you are on mister ROS's hate list
I finally installed ROS and it triggered my firewall trying to connect
to 109.72.112.37 port 7300.
I did a Telnet, it is Cluster Node US6IQ-1
Today I again started ROS and this time the firewall triggered on ROS
connecting to 82.182.70.198 port 8000, which is Cluster Node SM6YOU-2
I have
If I download a new version I will NOT be able to use
the program. For a unknown reason I was one of the people
that Jose has seen unfit to use it.
That was the reason I had to beg for a earlier venison of it.
But thanks for your reply.
At 03:50 PM 7/5/2010, you wrote:
If you download
I'm bored, so I'll bite.
It is my understanding that in the US, ROS is only allowed above 222Mhz.
On 40M, you would be held to SWL status.
You should find it around 7.053 to 7.056.
phil
n4zsa
- Original Message -
From: John Becker, WØJAB
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
And I would recommend that anyone wanting to use ROS should be required to read
this thread on QRZ which highlights some of the shadier aspects of this
program.
http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php...highlight=ros
And of course, you can search the archives of this mailing list for
And cause QRM in the beacon subband...
So much for the Gentlemen's Agreement!
Wes W1LIC
From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, June 1, 2010 7:42:58 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ROS 10 meters
FYI
Changes on
On 06/02/2010 12:15 PM, Steinar Aanesland wrote:
let's forget about this Mr. Ros without manners and his new a Yahoo list.
There is a lot of decent programmers out there, making excellent HAM
software. Mr. Ros is not worth the attention he and he's
frequency-hopping spread spectrum software
Rein
Really don't know what to say at this point.
Still trying to understand why my call was added to
the list of calls not able to use the ROS program.
But since Jose will not say I'll just move on to things
other then ROS. But I'm not the only one that this
has happen to. No big deal I have
: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Rein
Really don't know what to say at this point.
Still trying to understand why my call was added to
the list of calls not able to use the ROS program.
But since Jose will not say I'll just move on to things
other then ROS. But I'm not the only one
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Rein
Don't take it personal.
For some reason even I got on his bad list.
I did ask but never got an answer.
Not sure but I think someone has been feeding bad info to him.
Think he was told that I has said something that I really
Dear Steinar,
Very true.
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
Sent: Jun 2, 2010 4:15 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Hi Rein
let's forget about this Mr. Ros without manners and his new
No need to worry from being banned from this list from me.
That's not my style of moderating.
Yes I can no longer use ROS for some reason.
I did ask but that went unanswered.
All I know is that he posted a updated version and when ask for my call
the program would shut down if I recall. Never
- Original Message -
But since I have it on a flash drive I did install it on the laptop and
gave it a call other then my call and it worked fine.
What do you think?
I think even Ray Charles could see that.
Jose, if I'm wrong in any way - feel free to
jump in here and make any
I think that is what I said below now in RED
By my call I mean W0JAB
At 12:44 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote:
- Original Message -
But since I have it on a flash drive I did install it on the laptop and
gave it a call other then my call and it worked fine.
What do you think?
I think
, WØJAB
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
I think that is what I said below now in RED
By my call I mean W0JAB
At 12:44 PM 6/2/2010, you wrote:
- Original Message
/decode it under all
circumstances
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: Dave Sparks dspa...@pobox.com
Sent: Jun 2, 2010 2:14 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Oops, I missed that.
What I *THOUGHT* you were saying is that you tried
Spread Spectrum.
--
Dave - AF6AS
--
From: rein...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 1:01 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Hello Dave, AF6AS,
IIRC what does it stand for?
There has
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
IIRC = if I remember correctly.
The documentation issue stemmed from someone who complained that PACTOR, and
maybe other digital modes, could be considered codes or cyphers, and the
FCC ruled that they weren't because they were
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Hello Dave, AF6AS,
IIRC what does it stand for?
There has to be enough information to at least reverse-engineer a mode by
the FCC (and the NSA).
Is that documented somewhere, not that I want to question
:34 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Hello Dave,
Don't sse ypou much anymore on HF WSJT ,changes in antenna?
OK and thanks.
I contacted the people in VA and they replied right away. telling me
that they had stopped the mode
--- On Wed, 2/6/10, Dave Sparks dspa...@pobox.com wrote:
Found the section. It is
97.309(a)(4) of the code:
http://www.arrl.org/technical-characteristics
The reverse-engineering part is an inference on my part.
No chance of reverse-engineering Pactor III from the information provided.
.
( And Dave (G0DJA ) is your spam bin sufficient empty )
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: John Becker, WØJAB w0...@big-river.net
Sent: Jun 1, 2010 6:51 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS MODEM OFFICIAL GROUP
Rein
Don't take it personal.
For some
good news, nice to see this mode make good progress.
Andy K3UK
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:53 AM, graham787 g0...@hotmail.com wrote:
After a series of successful test transmissions, the latest version of
ROS-3-6-1 (at the moment) now has the MF mode included , this allows live
key board
Perhaps Tony, K2MO, can make some pathsim comparisons of ROS 8 baud with
Olivia 32-1000.
73 - Skip KH6TY
g4ilo wrote:
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/the-ros-numbers
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/the-ros-numbers
Julian, G4ILO
There's a lot more to Olivia than being multi-tone MFSK.
A fairer comparison with a new mode such as ROS would be MFSK as the
features of Olivia that make it so very robust could (should) be added at a
later date.
To put it simply Olivia hunts for the best signal it can decode and has
Simon HB9DRV wrote: There's a lot more to Olivia than being
multi-tone MFSK.
I am aware of that, Simon.
However, Olivia is currently the most popular digital mode other than
PSK31 and RTTY, and the question was if ROS 16 baud was worth using
twice the bandwidth of Olivia. We hoped that
If there were documentation on ROS then there would the possibility of
investigating the problem further and maybe adding improvements. Part of
the problem is that even if there is a large degree of spreading
compared to the data rate, the channel is still quite narrow and a large
portion of
Based on observations of the tones on the waterfall on the air, compared
to observing them locally, and hearing the raucous tones compared to
bell-like quality locally, my guess is that perhaps the modulation is
disturbed or the tones moved in frequency far enough so there is no
decoding. If
Yes but at UHF there seems to not be enough spread to tolerate the
Doppler shift. If the frequencies were further apart, and were received
through a wider window, the Doppler would be tolerated better but at
what penalty in noise? I can think of a few ways to solve your problem
but not with
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS update
KH6TY wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that ROS is actually FHSS, as originally
described on the ROS website, and therefore is not legal for US hams
below 222MHz. :-(
I think that I now no longer
Good riddance!
73 - Skip KH6TY
John wrote:
Andy, since you have chosen to moderate very specific posts to slant
the discussion in favor of your own agenda, and that of several
prominent other frequent posters, this reflector has become
effectively useless to me. It is unfortunate that
Are you on a witch hunt, John?
I did nothing but analyze ROS with FSK and present the findings to this
group. On the basis of the ROS emissions, all other facts brought up
here that you allude to are irrelevant. The signature of the ROS mode
clearly fits the definition of Frequency Hopping
Thank you, now we know truth. Guess I better stay clear of it till the
determination is officially posted...73, Alan
Earlier this morning, I called the FCC to confirm the FCC: ROS LEGAL
IN USA assertion made in
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/
I asked for
Julian,
In the US, the RTTY/data segment of 20m stops at 14.150.
73 - Skip KH6TY
g4ilo wrote:
Can anything be done to get the recommended frequencies for ROS on 20m
shifted out of the 14.101 - 14.109 range that already has established
users of other modes? On my band plan, 14.101 and
KH6TY wrote:
Julian,
In the US, the RTTY/data segment of 20m stops at 14.150.
The current UK band plans can be found at
http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/bandplans/
There's an online version and an Excel version that you can download.
Dave (G0DJA)
ooops, I meant MARCH 6th
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 5:16 PM, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com wrote:
I will be on 432.090 mHz this Saturday Feb 6 at 1230 UTC . listening and
testing ROS 1 and 16. If interested, check in to the K3Uk Sked page
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/
I take it you mean MARCH 6th?
--
Dave Sparks - AF6AS
- Original Message -
From: obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 2:16 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] ROS UHF net February 6 1230 UTC
I will be on 432.090 mHz this Saturday Feb 6 at
Jose,
Is THIS really true: [T]he information contained on the ROS Web site
was /not/ provided by the FCC.
la5vna S
On 04.03.2010 23:10, KH6TY wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that ROS is actually FHSS, as originally
described on the ROS website, and therefore is not legal for US hams
KH6TY wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears that ROS is actually FHSS, as originally
described on the ROS website, and therefore is not legal for US hams
below 222MHz. :-(
I think that I now no longer care about whether ROS is, or is not, legal
in the USA.
I see that I am now subject to
Like my friend Alan, I am distressed by the shading of the meaning of
lie. I believe we safely explain the short word LIE now by looking at
an example.
Bob
N4HY
On 3/3/2010 1:06 PM, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
Earlier this morning, I called the FCC to confirm the FCC: ROS LEGAL IN
USA assertion
I was about to call myself since I couldn't find anything on the FCC site about
it, no ROS, no such case number no nothing.
From: Dave AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com; rosdigitalmodemgr...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Skip Teller KH6TY
Hi Dave,
I have the same issue finally in Windows 7, I have to use
2.1.5 with soundcard set as default
Youre not alone L
Luc
VE2FXL
De : digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] De
la part de graham787
Envoyé : 2 mars 2010 17:40
À :
At 10:00 01-03-10, G4JNT wrote:
rgh
I agree 100% :-) - it has become a sterile discussion, IMHO.
73 - Marco IK1ODO / AI4YF
From: IMR ac.tal...@btinternet.com
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 Time: 09:00:33
rgh
I don't hink I can stand it any more and will just have to unsubscribe
from this group.I originally joined it as being the author of the
Data column in RSGB's RadCom, felt I ought to
I propose we change this group name to the... ROS Roundabout. I keep
seeing the same arguments from the same preple over and over. That
reminds me of GroundHog Day the movie. :-)
I am so over the whole discussion, not to mention the ops who insist on
firing up ROS16 on 30m at 10141 right in
Good tests, thanks Tony.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Tony d...@optonline.net wrote:
All,
I ran several path tests with ROS-16 and Olivia 2K this evening. The
simulator showed that Olivia is about as sensitive as ROS when configured to
run at the same baud rate, but it is not as
Hi Tony, you will have to repeat the test next days when i improve lenght
interleaver as I had expected :-)
The first think i said about ROS is that minimize the power at the same
character/minute rate, and that is just what you are tester :-). You cannot
match Washl Function FEC with Viterbi
There is a technical descrption at http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/. I doesn't
describe the start and stop tone sequences or completely describe the mapping
from the convolutional encoder to the 128 tones used for data. However, it's
more compete than some of the technical specifications on the
Alan,
Of course, the FCC rules on SS are outdated and ROS should be allowed
due to its narrow spreading range, but the road to success is not to
just rename a spread spectrum modem to something else and try to fool
the FCC. This is a sure way to lose the battle. The genie is already out
of
If MFSK16 was randomized would it magically become spread-spectrum?
Alan, sorry I forgot to reply to this question.
The answer is yes, but only if the following three conditions are ALL
met (from the ROS documentation):
1. The signal occupies a bandwidth much in excess of the minimum
things in this group.
*De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
*Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 13:18
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
If MFSK16 was randomized would
If you are waste time in try demostrate ROS is a SS, i think you are not trying
help.
De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 14:36
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto
:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
*Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 14:36
*Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle
jose alberto nieto ros wrote:
I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue
saying stupid things in this group.
Moderated for stupidity? Now
Skip, can you show some more spectral comparison examples? This time add the
widest Olivia mode and other very wide modes.
Thanks in advance,
Warren - K5WGM
--- On Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote:
From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when
:
Skip, can you show some more spectral comparison examples? This time
add the widest Olivia mode and other very wide modes.
Thanks in advance,
Warren - K5WGM
--- On *Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY /kh...@comcast.net/* wrote:
From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS
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