Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread hteller
in advance, Warren - K5WGM --- On *Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY /kh...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 8:11 AM Jose, my attempted

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread KH6TY
. *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 14:36 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle jose alberto nieto ros wrote: I propose to moderator you will be banned if you continue saying stupid things in this group

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 15:27 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle   Hi Warren, I have already captured a spectrum of Olivia 32-100 (i.e., FSK32) and posted it in a reply, but glad do it again.. You can see the fixed frequencies at idle

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Howard Brown
This is rude. Where is the moderator when you need him? From: jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 8:59:00 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle KH, are you a Ham

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread KH6TY
febrero, 2010 15:27 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle Hi Warren, I have already captured a spectrum of Olivia 32-100 (i.e., FSK32) and posted it in a reply, but glad do it again.. You can see the fixed frequencies at idle and then the new frequencies added when data

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread KH6TY
/* wrote: From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 8:11 AM Jose, my attempted help is to let you understand that the FCC believed you when you said ROS

Re: [digitalradio] ROS is a dead issue for me at this time.

2010-02-26 Thread Russell Blair
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:48:45 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle   Jose, I am a ham radio member in good standing and have been for over 55 years. I believe I also have some degree of respect and appreciation in the ham community

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Dave Ackrill
jose alberto nieto ros wrote: KH, are you a Ham Radio or a FCC member? If you are Ham Radio you should waste your time in help new modes would be used. Only a fool throws stones at your own roof. So, if you are not a FCC member, then we know what you are. Jose, I should give up on this

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Wes Linscott
Sounds like a bunch of crap to me . . . From: Toby Burnett ruff...@hebrides.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 9:44:05 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle   Lol    really sorry, must have clicked

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread José A. Amador
know what you are. *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* vie,26 febrero, 2010 15:27 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle Hi Warren, I have already captured

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Warren Moxley
if several hams using ROS that are one top of each other, does it work better than say, Olivia? Warren - K5WGM --- On Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread KH6TY
better than say, Olivia? Warren - K5WGM --- On *Fri, 2/26/10, KH6TY /kh...@comcast.net/* wrote: From: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 8:27 AM Hi

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Stelios Bounanos
On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 06:29:23 -0500, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net said: [snip] It looks to me that the tone frequencies are clearly being generated independently from the data and then the data applied to the randomly generated frequency. There is NO pattern to ROS like there is to FSK modes,

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
that know how it work. Thanks De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 20:27 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle   Hi Warren, I do not know of any way to change bandwidth in ROS. My

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Warren Moxley
--- On Fri, 2/26/10, jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es wrote: From: jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 26, 2010, 1:41 PM   Hi

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle   Hi Jose, in the latest version that problem is fixed. Now ROS no decode new station until a first station has finished.Please, use latest version. Old version has thats problem  You may be directing you statement to Skip. I have

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread José A. Amador
Warren, Please allow me put my two cents. I would not expect so if the spreading code is the same. The adventage of CDMA is code orthogonality, each user has a different chipping code that has little correlation with other user's codes., and so, there is little mutual QRM. As far as I

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
things are of sense common De: José A. Amador ama...@electrica.cujae.edu.cu Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,26 febrero, 2010 20:33 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle   Warren, Please allow me put my two cents. I would

Re: [digitalradio] ROS carrier pattern when idle

2010-02-26 Thread Jose A. Amador
No, I have not, because Olivia is usually found in different frequencies than those where packet activity is found on this side of planet Earth, and in general, packet sysops and Olivia users know their way around and do not step over others toes. Very seldom I have experienced Olivia to

Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

2010-02-24 Thread Stelios Bounanos
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:05:36 -, obrienaj k3uka...@gmail.com said: In the few ROS 16 and ROS 1 tests that I have dome so far... ROS 16 seems similar to Olivia 8/1000 , good performance but perhaps a not quite as good as Olivia under QRM or deep fades. ROS 1 , not as good as JT65A in

Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

2010-02-24 Thread Andy obrien
I have had a few more days to test it and watch how it does in QRM. Same impressions, a good mode but not offering substantially more than the other well known modes. In a couple of specific tests, Olivia 500-128 did better than ROS 1. On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Stelios Bounanos

Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

2010-02-24 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Does not believe that even you, Andy. I know you are a special interest ROS dont was used, i dont know why. De: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: jue,25 febrero, 2010 00:58 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so

Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

2010-02-24 Thread Andy obrien
interest ROS dont was used, i dont know why. -- *De:* Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* jue,25 febrero, 2010 00:58 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far I have had a few more days to test it and watch

Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far

2010-02-24 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: jue,25 febrero, 2010 01:35 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS impressions so far   Incorrect Jose.  I have used it, and havw made special efforts to get other to use t on my web page http://www.obriensw eb.com/sked/ sked.php? page=digitalswitch=1 Example

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-23 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com CC: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: mar,23 febrero, 2010 07:40 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   Hi All.  Just a question, and please, be patient if I'm asking this... I'm a SWL and I

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Howard Brown
Aside from the legal aspect, does anyone have an opinion as to whether the limited hopping (within the 3khz that it hops) helps the robustness of the waveform? If it makes a tremendous difference, maybe we should all work to get it accepted. Howard K5HB

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
Howard, After monitoring 14.101 continuously for two days, I find the following: 1. CW signals (of narrow width, of course) during this past weekend contest often disrupted decoding, and it looks like it was not desensitization due to AGC capture, as the ROS signals on the waterfall did not

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, February 22, 2010 9:55:11 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   Aside from the legal aspect, does anyone have an opinion as to whether the limited hopping (within the 3khz that it hops) helps the robustness of the waveform?  If it makes

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
:31 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   Howard, After monitoring 14.101 continuously for two days, I find the following: 1. CW signals (of narrow width, of course) during this past weekend contest often disrupted decoding, and it looks like it was not desensitization due to AGC capture

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: 2. Pactor signals of 500 Hz width, outside the ROS signal, that capture the AGC, do desensitize the receiver and cause loss of decoding, as expected. Passband tuning takes care of that problem however. As with many other digital modes, I've been using it with AGC switched

Re: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in USA

2010-02-22 Thread Alan Barrow
Dave wrote: The closest you get to a true definition in Part 97 is in section 97.3 Definitions, Para C, line 8: /(8) SS/. Spread-spectrum emissions using bandwidth-expansion modulation emissions having designators with A, C, D, F, G, H, J or R as the first symbol; X as

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
. *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 18:31 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? Howard, After monitoring 14.101 continuously for two days, I find the following: 1. CW

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when the AGC is disabled. If you just use manual gain control, and reduce the gain for strong signals, the effect is the same, only manual. You will lose the weak station because you have reduced the gain and the sensitivity. The

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Please, give a frequency alternative to 14.101 De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 22:39 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
Glenn L. Roeser wrote: I would have to agree with Andy's observation that the 1 baud mode is as good as using JT65a With the advantage of being able to send more text in one transmission. It is a very slow throughput though. Very 73, Glenn (WB2LMV) You have to be the patient sort, maybe a

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
*De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 22:39 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? That is good, Dave, except for receivers that distort heavily when the AGC is disabled. If you just use manual gain control

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:23 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   The hflink published ALE frequencies might be a good alternative for others around the world, since ALE users should not notice the FHSS ROS activity (according to the ROS documentation

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
to narrow band modes. The problem is if you join two wide modes at the same frequency. *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:23 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: Jose, I will be using 432.090 MHz because that is definitely legal for US hams. I will be testing the effect of severe Doppler-induced fading and flutter. We badly need a mode for 432 MHz that has good sensitivity and can survive fast Doppler shifts, and I hope a FHSS mode

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage- mode ranking

2010-02-22 Thread Andy obrien
It seems unfair, especially because of all the hard work put in to developing it, but I do not see it as any better than many other modes... nothing that says gee...this is way better . It is GOOD, and a mode to add to our bag of tricks, but not a killer app. The software interface is very

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage- mode ranking

2010-02-22 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: It seems unfair, especially because of all the hard work put in to developing it, but I do not see it as any better than many other modes... nothing that says gee...this is way better . It is GOOD, and a mode to add to our bag of tricks, but not a killer app. The software

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
interference to narrow band modes. The problem is if you join two wide modes at the same frequency. De: KH6TY kh...@comcast. net Para: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:23 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?   The hflink

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread KH6TY
would the best option? *De:* KH6TY kh...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,22 febrero, 2010 23:46 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? I agree with Andy - try 14.109 USB next. ALE

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage?

2010-02-22 Thread Ugo
in the transceiver. You must pass all bandwith in your receiver because filter are doing by the PC better than you transceiver. De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,22 febrero, 2010 18:31 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Advantage? Howard, After monitoring 14.101

Re: [digitalradio] ROS bug

2010-02-21 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Interesting. I go to tester. De: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com Para: digitalradio digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: dom,21 febrero, 2010 13:23 Asunto: [digitalradio] ROS bug   It seems that an invalid procedure error occurs if the the two email

Re: [digitalradio] ROS bug

2010-02-21 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: It seems that an invalid procedure error occurs if the the two email addresses that appear in the @ macro for Baud 16 run together and the ending of the first one, does not get printed. e.g. emailaddr...@address.comemailaddress@address.com This is happened at the moment

Re: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in USA

2010-02-21 Thread Dave
The closest you get to a true definition in Part 97 is in section 97.3 Definitions, Para C, line 8: (8) SS. Spread-spectrum emissions using bandwidth-expansion modulation emissions having designators with A, C, D, F, G, H, J or R as the first symbol; X as the second symbol; X as the third

RE: [digitalradio]ROS band plan

2010-02-21 Thread kq6i
I'm a bit of a rebel. What yard do I play in? Confused, I guess ROS can be found @ 3.600, 7.053, 18.105 or 18.110, 14.080 or 14.101, es 28.300? So guy's/gal's, we fish'n or cutt'n bait? rgrds Craig kq6i -Original Message- From: F.R. Ashley [mailto:gda...@clearwire.net] Sent:

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA? Letter to FCC

2010-02-21 Thread J. Moen
Excellent idea to ask FCC for an opinion. Dave K3DCW referred to Part 97, but the section he quoted really only describes emission mode designation codes for SS, and does not technically describe how FCC defines SS. It's almost as if Part 97 assumes the definition is so well known that it's

Re: [digitalradio]ROS band plan

2010-02-21 Thread Dave Ackrill
k...@arrl.net wrote: I'm a bit of a rebel. What yard do I play in? Confused, I guess ROS can be found @ 3.600, 7.053, 18.105 or 18.110, 14.080 or 14.101, es 28.300? So guy's/gal's, we fish'n or cutt'n bait? I guess that, when there's only a few people using a mode, it's useful to have

Re: [digitalradio]ROS band plan

2010-02-21 Thread kp4cb
I will be transmiting in 14.101 20M have good propagation from early morning to the afternoon, KP4CB --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@... wrote: k...@... wrote: I'm a bit of a rebel. What yard do I play in? Confused, I guess ROS can be found @ 3.600,

RE: [digitalradio]ROS band plan

2010-02-21 Thread Fred VE3FAL
I tried the latest download but it would lock up and freeze.. Removed it from the computer. Sure are a lot of digital modes hitting the air today, in some ways way too many Fred CIW649/VE3FAL CFARS Member SATERN Member SATERN Amateur Radio Liaison Officer DEC Amethyst District ARES I will

Re: [digitalradio] ROS Part 97

2010-02-21 Thread Rik van Riel
On 02/21/2010 02:36 PM, athosj wrote: This is the way that an argument is conducted with real facts. If ROS is a SS can not be used in HF bands. Furthermore, if you believe that ROS is spread spectrum, you should probably also stop using any other modes with the same technical

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA? Letter to FCC

2010-02-21 Thread Rik van Riel
On 02/21/2010 11:31 AM, J. Moen wrote: But right now, I think that since Part 97 does not appear to define what SS is, it is not possible to definitively say whether ROS is legal or not legal in FCC jurisdictions. Asking FCC for an opinion is a great idea. Of course, there is always the

Re: [digitalradio] ROS sked group

2010-02-21 Thread Toby Burnett
I think I have lost the message. There has been so many, did someone come up with a ROS mode sked page yesterday. Please could someone link to it. PS Monitoring 3.600mhz just now, I see Jose has put 3.60605 on the page. For 16 baud (is this where everyone is?) Toby mm0tob  Reply to

Re: [digitalradio] ROS sked group

2010-02-21 Thread Andy obrien
http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ click on digital or... if you are greedy.. http://www.obriensweb.com/skedpskr4.html On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Toby Burnett ruff...@hebrides.net wrote: I think I have lost the message. There has been so many, did someone come up with a ROS mode

Re: [digitalradio] ROS sked group

2010-02-21 Thread Toby Burnett
Cheers Andy. ---Original Message--- From: Andy obrien Date: 22/02/2010 00:14:07 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS sked group http://www.obriensweb.com/sked/ click on digital or... if you are greedy.. http://www.obriensweb.com/skedpskr4.html

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-20 Thread Wilfredo Aviles Jr / KP4ARN
/ KP4ARN Amateur Radio is the best way to know People and Travel around the World, FREE From: Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 20, 2010 3:21:35 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments   Very impressive

Re: [digitalradio] ROS 14.101 MHz

2010-02-20 Thread Trevor .
IARU Region 1 bandplan indicates 14.080 is for modes using less than 500 Hz B/W. Bandwidths up to 2700 Hz are permitted above 14.101 MHz. http://www.rsgb.org/spectrumforum/bandplans/rsgb_band_plan_2010.htm 73 Trevor M5AKA

Re: [digitalradio] ROS New Mode

2010-02-20 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Jose Thanks ! I have only been receiving ROS on 14.101 but it is amazing how well it is able to decode weak signals. A question ; I am using the signalink USB with an internal VOX function as an external sound card, therefor the COM port is not in use. Is it possible to turn of the com

RE: [digitalradio] ros

2010-02-20 Thread Box SisteenHundred
And a bow, rope and stick to create fire ? HI HI 73 - Bill KA8VIT I got into RTTY in 1976. Still use a machine for RTTY. _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.

Re: [digitalradio] ROS M

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
DAVID wrote: WHEN I USE THE CQ MACRO THE OUTPUT HAS THE LETTER M IN FRONT OF MY CALL SIGN I CAN REMOVE IT BEFORE I TRANSMIT AND IT RUNS WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE M That doesn't happen here. This is my CQ call TX 14:44 UTC CQ CQ CQ de G0DJA G0DJA G0DJA pse k Are you sure that

Re: [digitalradio] ROS FREQUENCY

2010-02-20 Thread Andy obrien
Good point, I am so used to narrow modes that I forget such things. Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD wd4...@suddenlink.net wrote: if you are gonna be trying new bands, at the minimum, do use frequencies that are good for SSB or wideband digital.

Re: [digitalradio] ROS FREQUENCY

2010-02-20 Thread Toby Burnett
obrien Date: 20/02/2010 15:18:16 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS FREQUENCY Good point, I am so used to narrow modes that I forget such things. Andy K3UK On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD wd4...@suddenlink.net wrote: if you

Re: [digitalradio] Ros wav file

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
W3NJ wrote: Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode. Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good to know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything unique at this point, just

Re: [digitalradio] Ros wav file

2010-02-20 Thread Dave Ackrill
Dave Ackrill wrote: W3NJ wrote: Seeing lots of interest on the new ROS mode. Would someone be willing to post a HF capture in a wav file in the files section or point to one online? I'm tuning around 14.101 and would be good to know what I'm listening for. Haven't heard anything unique at

Re: [digitalradio] ros freq

2010-02-20 Thread Phil Williams
Be right there. philw de ka1gmn On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD wd4...@suddenlink.net wrote: trying 18.110 usb for anyone willing to try. david/wd4kpd -- Philw de KA1GMN

Re: [digitalradio] ROS v1.6.3 no Rec

2010-02-20 Thread Russell Blair
Tnx I got it fix tnx any way. Russell NC5O  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O)

Re: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in USA

2010-02-20 Thread J. Moen
What is the FCC definition of spread spectrum, and where can it be located on the internet? Jim - K6JM - Original Message - From: John B. Stephensen To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:58 PM Subject: [digitalradio] ROS - make it legal in

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread ivor peters
m5...@blueyonder.co.uk hello all. can someone tell me where i go to download this ros. many thanks 73 ivor/m5ply - Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA

RE: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Giedrius, LY2CG
ivor/m5ply - Original Message - From: Andy obrien mailto:k3uka...@gmail.com To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA? The description says it uses spread-spectrun On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzY3MjhrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzExODMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyNjY1OTc1MzA-?o=6Joe, N8FQ... http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html Describes Spread Spectrum as

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Hi, Glenn. Could you explain better the over button please. Put an example, please Thank you   De: Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 14:41 Asunto: [digitalradio] ROS   I just had my

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJmbzY3MjhrBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4NzExODMEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA4BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyNjY1OTc1MzA-?o=6Joe, N8FQ... http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Dave Ackrill
Dave Ackrill wrote: I'd actually say that the term 'spread spectrum' is actually incorrect as far as RIO is concerned. It's actually no more 'spread' than some of the other digi-modes and less 'spread' than some versions of Olivia. Sorry, I meant ROS of course. Mark it down as my senior

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Jose, a button that hands over to the other person in the call e.g. k3uk de p5dx kn K3UK would have P5DX in the destination box. I think it would be the same as the call button though. Andy K3UK On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:58 PM, jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es wrote: Hi,

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread KH6TY
Unfortunately, the ROS explanation of Spread Spectrum and Frequency Hopping in the documentation too closely resembles the definition of Spread Spectrum as written in the Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spread_spectrum. Since ROS claims to be Frequency Hopping and Spread Spectrum by its

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Thanks Skip, I agree after doing some more reading and I will not use this mode on HF. Your UHF idea sounds good. Andy K3Uk On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 1:32 PM, KH6TY kh...@comcast.net wrote: Unfortunately, the ROS explanation of Spread Spectrum and Frequency Hopping in the documentation too

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Glenn L. Roeser
, February 19, 2010 12:58:03 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS   Hi, Glenn. Could you explain better the over button please. Put an example, please Thank you   De: Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietrace@ yahoo.com Para: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Enviado: vie

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
Ah, OK, thats button exit already: Is the button:  +BYE   De: Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: vie,19 febrero, 2010 19:47 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] ROS   Hello Jose, It would be similar to one

Re: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread Mobile Me
: Ah, OK, thats button exit already: Is the button: +BYE *De:* Glenn L. Roeser hillbillietr...@yahoo.com *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* vie,19 febrero, 2010 19:47 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] ROS Hello Jose

RE: [digitalradio] ROS

2010-02-19 Thread kq6i
:47 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Cc: jose alberto nieto ros Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS Hi All. I'm trying to install ROS on my pc running windows 7 ultimate (64 bit) but I'm not able to install, it seems to be impossible to do it on this operativ system. Could someone help me

Re: [digitalradio] ros

2010-02-19 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 06:58 PM 2/19/2010, you wrote: even some of the AFSK/RTTY people use USB. I have seen this too and at times wonder why. I think maybe because the other modes are USB. I got into RTTY in 1976. Still use a machine for RTTY.

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread Tony
It will interesting to see if Tony K2MO gets a chance to put this through the Pathsim tests and compare it to Olivia. My guess is that it will be close to that of Olivia. Andy K3UK Andy, I'd be more than happy to run ROS through the path simulator if I could get the program running with

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
I made the experiment over AWGN and ROS is 2 dBs better than OLIVIA 32/1000. But we are comparing two modes at differents character rate. As you know ROS is two times faster than OLIVIA 32/1000. You should compare ROS 16 with OLIVIA 8/1000.  Then the different is about 5-6 dBs for the same

Re: [digitalradio] ROS experiments

2010-02-19 Thread Andy obrien
Very impressive Jose, again...congratulations. On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:25 AM, jose alberto nieto ros nietoro...@yahoo.es wrote: I made the experiment over AWGN and ROS is 2 dBs better than OLIVIA 32/1000. But we are comparing two modes at differents character rate. As you know ROS is

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Why would it not be Andy? If it is Audio Phase Shift Keying then it's no different to PSK31, if it is more like WSJT then as long as JT65A (and all the other WSJT modes) are legal, then what makes this one any different? I

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
The description says it uses spread-spectrun On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Andy obrien wrote: Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Why would it not be Andy? I

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Joe Veldhuis
As long as it is 500 Hz and 300 baud, it's fine. -Joe, N8FQ On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:04:29 -0500 Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Andy K3Uk

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: The description says it uses spread-spectrun How wide is 'wide'? Not got to grips with this as yet, obviously. Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread J. Moen
- Original Message - From: Andy obrien To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA? The description says it uses spread-spectrun On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.uk

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