I had a similar problem. I can play WMA and WMA lossless but not WMA
Pro. Slimdevices told me WMA Por is not a supported format
Try recording in a new folder one of each and see if this narrows down
the problem
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The Roku HD1 does that. It's just slow. SB is *designed for audio*
and it does it better than anything else on the market in for less than
$500.
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As I'm sure at least a few of you know the Opera web browser is now
available (as a beta) for the Nintendo Wii. The browser itself is
Flash 7 capable and I've already played many flash games on it, watched
videos on youtube and even listened to some music via embedded flash
players on some web si
azinck3;173574 Wrote:
> Try pressing the "brightness" button...:)
I feel like an idiot..thanks!
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lemmy999;173572 Wrote:
> I have the powered off screen saver set to "Date and Time". It has
> worked perfectly during the previous month that I have owned the
> Squeeze Box. Last week I upgraded SS to 6.5.1 and it continued to
> work. Today I unplugged the Sq. Box and took it downstairs. Time
fingers;173569 Wrote:
>
> Yup, caching can be very sticky, that's why it is a good idea to do it
> a couple times.
Better yet install Firefox and try there rather than I.E..
To make sure the SS cache is cleared delete:
C:\Program
Files\SlimServer\server\Cache\templates\C\PROGRA~1\SLIMSE~1\serv
I have the powered off screen saver set to "Date and Time". It has
worked perfectly during the previous month that I have owned the
Squeeze Box. Last week I upgraded SS to 6.5.1 and it continued to
work. Today I unplugged the Sq. Box and took it downstairs. Time
still worked when powered off.
Yes, you assumed correct... a complete uninstall prior to re-install as
described, multiple times.
I would guess a lot is not initialising right. Already tried your
Fishbone suggestion. Same thing
Yup, caching can be very sticky, that's why it is a good idea to do it
a couple times.
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On 23-Jan-07, at 8:37 PM, fingers wrote:
The SlimServer interface works just fine with the default skin but is
completely horked when chaning to Fishbone. See link
http://wrathcat.com/web/SlimServer.jpg
three thoughts:
1) despite what I assume was a complete uninstall prior to installing
So...
SlimServer 6.3.1 starts up each and everytime when the computer boots
up
All 3 Squeezeboxes see SlimServer and are happy.
However...
The SlimServer interface works just fine with the default skin but is
completely horked when chaning to Fishbone. See link
http://wrathcat.com/web/SlimSe
No password is associated with my system. What do you mean by update?
Now I am having trouble playing music; the player is skipping and the
scrolling is jerky. What's going on??
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Meatwad650;173537 Wrote:
> Has this happened when upgrading from a production release to another
> production release?
Yup. Not all the time... but more than should
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JJZolx;173529 Wrote:
> Right now the nightly builds of 6.5.x are nearly identical to the
> official 6.5.1 released last week. Only one tiny change to one of the
> skins has been checked in to the 6.5.x branch since then. Plus, the
> problem being discussed has existed since 6.5 was in beta, las
I would agree... however that is exactly what happened. I have had no
problems with previous builds of 6.5.1 until now.
So, here is what follows. After contacting tech support by phone this
evening because I never heard back after filling out and submitting a
support issue via the website (by t
Brian Ritchie;173518 Wrote:
> Yes, I remember when I installed the router a couple of years ago I read
> that WEP could be cracked in about a day of monitoring on a reasonably
> busy network; I thought then that I wasn't likely to use it that
> heavily. I guess that's changed since then (in more
Quoting AudioFrog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
00:02:08:00:00:01: Current playmode: play
Pipeline reader connected
readlen undef: (Unknown error)10054
end of file or error on socket, opening next song, (song pos: 0(tell
says: . 0), totalbytes: 0)
This is the problem. Unfortunately the transcoder ha
Um... at this point I have tried getting back to 6.5.1 and now to 6.3.1.
Both to no success. So this has nothing to do with nightly builds.
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Meatwad650;173524 Wrote:
> I find it interesting that someone is complaining about an issue with
> the nightly builds. I would think that it's obvious that the software
> could be buggy and is an "at your own risk" sort of thing.
Right now the nightly builds of 6.5.x are nearly identical to the
Selecting d_source shows some sort of 'unknown' error:
13
**skipahead: opening next song
opening next song...
the next song is number 0, was 13
undermax = 1, type = mov, squeezebox2 = 00:02:08:00:00:01
getConvertCommand: track is alac - updating type!
checking formats for: alc-wma-squeezebox2-00:
That's the output from d_paths. you'll want to look at d_source along
with that. If that whole chunk is coming up in fast groups like that,
there is likely a problem with the file types settings. If not, then
it could be that part of the transcoding command in failing, which will
show signs in d
I find it interesting that someone is complaining about an issue with
the nightly builds. I would think that it's obvious that the software
could be buggy and is an "at your own risk" sort of thing.
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All I see over and over again is this:
Found binary C:\Program
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\alac.exe for
alac.exe
Checking for flac.exe in C:\Program
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\flac.exe
Found binary C:\Program
Files\SlimServer\server\Bin\MSWin32-x
If you look at the page with the debugging options, you'll see that the
last word of the description ("here") is a link. Click and you'll see
the log.
Steve.
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No idea, I don't use iTunes. But the methods SuperQ and I gave would
work fine with or without iTunes.
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I was never asked for a password !
Are you sure it is not associated with your system ?
Edit:
Just checked the file - no password needed to unzip.
Are you trying to update it ?
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Mark Lanctot;173171 Wrote:
> Ouch! That's a rock and a hard place, man...WEP is just about useless.
> It will deter casual and accidental connections, but if someone really
> wants to get in it's no big deal.
Yes, I remember when I installed the router a couple of years ago I
read that WEP coul
Steve,
I turned on debugging for those modules. Where are the log files
generated? I looked all thru the Program Files/Slimserver directories
for them but I don't see any.
Thx,
Ed
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That sure would fix some things. However, it also then requires to
resetup your network etc which is pain to have to do everytime an
update happens to SlimServer.
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Found it, but it's still asking for a password. This is frustratin
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I suggest you try setting some of the debug options and post anything
significant that shows up. I'm not sure which ones you need but
d_files, d_formats, d_paths, d_stream, d_server and anything else that
looks interesting might be a start.
Steve.
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Try this source
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Lame_Encoder.htm
Try version 3.96.1
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The only processes I see doing anything is slim.exe, mysql and
occasionally socketwrapper.exe, no flac.exe or alac.exe processes. The
hard drive chatters for awhile after attempting to play a song.
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I'm telling SlimServer to use iTunes instead of scanning the library
manually...I'll try bookmarking it in my iTunes library and if that
works then it should be easy to use on the Squeezebox, right?
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Meatwad650;173494 Wrote:
> Right - but how would I set that up? I've spent almost no time playing
> with Slimserver so would it be setting up in there or via the
> Squeezebox directly?
I use my di.fm premium all the time. There is nothing to setup.
There are 2 ways to do this:
1: right-click
Use either the "Tune in URL" from the web interface and enter the proper
URL (which should be something like:
http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/whatever .. thats basic HTTP
authentication). You can also add those stations to your Favorites
from the player itself (pressing the right arrow).
You c
an unfortunate way to learn about the vulnerability of RAID.
my two cents: I'm a television editor and the use of raids for storing
and quickly accessing massive amounts of video/audio media is
commonplace. what's also commonplace is Raids failing. Every company
I've ever worked for has gone thro
snarlydwarf;173491 Wrote:
> from their site, it seems that one of the formats is plain old mp3
> delivered via HTTP basic authentication.
Right - but how would I set that up? I've spent almost no time playing
with Slimserver so would it be setting up in there or via the Squeezebox
directly?
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It seems that the LAME file is password protected. Now what?
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from their site, it seems that one of the formats is plain old mp3
delivered via HTTP basic authentication.
That should work fine.
(They list xmms as a supported player, so no DRM.)
Try their $2 day pass thing and see if it works.
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disc
There is certainly *a* way. Whether it suits you, or whether there are
better ways, I don't know.
There are programs that will take the sound going through your computer
and broadcast it as a stream that the SB can pick up.
Not knowing your OS, I can't give more detail.
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Pale Blue Ego;172477 Wrote:
> DRM is a useless battle. If you can hear it, you can record it.
>
> But that doesn't matter to these CongressCrooks. They're used to
> passing stupid and ineffective legislation. They don't care, they are
> happy to rubber-stamp anything Hollywood hands them, a
bpa;173473 Wrote:
> Lame is needed if you need to convert a stream into MP3. The main cases
> are
>
> 1. Destination device is a SliMP3 or possibly SB1
> 2. Want to use bit rate limiting (e.g. connecting an SB to Slimserver
> over internet)
> 3. Want to send a Slimserver stream to a non Squeeze
Lame is needed if you need to convert a stream into MP3. The main cases
are
1. Destination device is a SliMP3 or possibly SB1
2. Want to use bit rate limiting (e.g. connecting an SB to Slimserver
over internet)
3. Want to send a Slimserver stream to a non Squeezebox device device
(e.g. PDA)
Wha
If you transcode you do.
Did you follow the instructions in
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?LAMEForTranscoding?
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Today I upgraded from 6.2.1 to 6.5.1 and I'm having no problems playing
my music. It's 90% ALAC and 10% AAC. Most of the ALAC was ripped with
iTunes, some was ripped vinyl converted from WAV to ALAC with
dBpowerAMP. I'm using XP SP2.
What processes do you see running when your music is "playing"
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Question: D
Subject says it all...if I subscribe to di.fm premium streams is there a
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In my slimserver settings,I noticed that LAME was not installed, so I
tried to download with no sucess. Do I really need LAME?
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Bpa, yes, I had a google too - a good reason to stick with the
slimserver/alien setup. Using the 770 skin is also a little easier than
navigating the BBC website.
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dSw;173414 Wrote:
> I have a Topfield TF5800 (dual tuner DVB-T PVR) and it's fantastic (see
> http://www.toppy.org.uk/ for more info). Not quite capable of running
> Slimserver, but I do have a Mini-ITX Linux PC connected to it via a USB
> cable and use my SB2 to bridge onto my wireless LAN. This
Not much new for me to add, but wanted to be another voice in the chorus
of people looking for a slick ui on the computer side. In an ideal
world iTunes would be able to actually drive the squeezebox since
millions of iPod users have made it the most widely accepted standard
out there (itunes isn
Doing a quick google - it seems that there is no RealPlayer plugin for
the Opera on the N770.
I am not familiar with Opera but some browsers let you launch an
external player, if a plugin is not available. If this choice is not
offered - then you have a reason for using Slimserver/AlienBBC.
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bpa;173435 Wrote:
> The media player on the N770 was a version of RealPlayer - and I guess
> it is the same for N800.
>
> I think you should also try to use the BBC's "listen again" facility
> through the browser from the BBC web site. If that works then all
> AlienBBC facilities are available
Found a piece of software from Disk Internals Research called Linux
Reader - free - seemed too good to be true!
http://www.diskinternals.com/
It mounted my disk on a Windows XP machine via USB, and reads every
file on it without any trouble. Just extracting all the data now.
This is a great bi
The media player on the N770 was a version of RealPlayer - and I guess
it is the same for N800.
I think you should also try to use the BBC's "listen again" facility
through the browser from the BBC web site. If that works then all
AlienBBC facilities are available natively on the N800.
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I have the EXACT same problem with 6.5.1. My Itunes collection is made
up of 440GB of Apple Lossless files and no matter what I do, whether it
be a fresh XP install or existing, the SB2 acts like it will play but no
sound is made. 6.5 and lower work ok. I have disabled all firewalls that
I have an
Ok, so the N800 can handle the real stream, just need to click stand
alone player!
Thanks to all who replied - a case of looking for problems where none
exist!
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Victor;173424 Wrote:
> The N800 should be able to handle Real streams just fine
Victor, when I navigate to BBC6 and click the listen live (realplayer)
button a box comes stating that realplayer is not installed. I have
read that the N800 is supposed to handle real streams, but I can't get
it to
Hi,
I have exactly the same problem. The strange thing is that when I first
installed Vista and Slimserver, it worked ok for a bit.
Internet Explorer and FireFox just hang when I load slimserver...is
anyone else having trouble?? Sorry I have no resolution :(
Cheers
David
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bergek;173422 Wrote:
> The home server is quite different from a desktop computer.
>
> In my world a desktop computer at home is the computer most people
> would see as "the computer". I don't know about you but I have yet to
> experience a desktop computer with a performance that I can live wi
norman12;173423 Wrote:
> Thanks for the reply (and the 770 skin - great stuff)
>
> The BBC stream in either Real or Windows media although some of the
> archived shows are mp3.
> I may be wrong, but I don't think the N800 can handle these formats on
> its own.
The N800 should be able to handle
Mark Lanctot;173390 Wrote:
> Run that by me again?
>
> I must have misunderstood.
The home server is quite different from a desktop computer.
In my world a desktop computer at home is the computer most people
would see as "the computer". I don't know about you but I have yet to
experience a d
I partitaly agree. but softawre companies must answer all the needs from
lots of different users. that's why they cover so much and some of us
want some, others want other. This leads to your swiss knife.
To some up only for my personnal case, pushing music from server
(itunes for its graphical g
bklaas;173107 Wrote:
> how about cutting the middleman and streaming BBC directly to the audio
> player on the N800? Seems like that's the way to go here.
Thanks for the reply (and the 770 skin - great stuff)
The BBC stream in either Real or Windows media although some of the
archived shows are
Regarding AlienBBC not working on non Squeezebox devices - in this case
N800 - this thread may help
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26315
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brucegrr;173411 Wrote:
> I think Nero is a good example. Their recent release has everything but
> the kitchen sink (and it is in there somewhere I suspect)IMO the
> program is bloated and the extras they have crammed into the program
> are not as good as separate programs that can be bought else
funkstar;173105 Wrote:
> Do you have Lame installed and available to AlienBBC/Slimserver?
>
> RadioIO is already in MP3 (at least i'm pretty sure it is) so
> SlimServer just send that stream directly to the player. AlienBBC
> transcodes the RealAudio streams with MPlayer to get them to play. By
ceejay;173315 Wrote:
> Yes, it looks good, but AFAIK still some way from being available in a
> UK DVB-T configuration, although I think this has been talked about for
> months.
>
> Ceejay
I have a Topfield TF5800 (dual tuner DVB-T PVR) and it's fantastic (see
http://www.toppy.org.uk/ for more
Skunk;173407 Wrote:
> Did you happen to check if the Server Settings|File Type default values
> changed during the upgrade?
Yes i checked this. No change around here
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Are people really having trouble with Slimserver keeping up with 500
albums? Seems that there would a problem Other than Slimserver to cause
that. I have 14,000 songs that Slimserver can access and it never has
a problem. The only slowness I ever see is when I initially browse my
music via album
Did you happen to check if the Server Settings|File Type default values
changed during the upgrade?
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So, I checked how slimservers creates it's own m3u, when calling long
media files with cue sheets. The songs in the cue are called with this
format:
Example:
file:///M:/ClassicRock/Led%20Zeppelin/(1975)%20Physical%20Graffiti/Led%20Zeppelin%20-%20Physical%20Graffiti%20(Disc%202).flac#527.1
As i said, just moved back to 6.5.0 and it works, only radios are a bit
more difficult to get.
let me just say, as a SB3 lover, how "pain in the ass" is Slimserver. I
just can't understand how the official release can't just work properly
!! Is it really to much to ask ??
I'm very aware of all t
I am not sure that I am being helpful here, but when I upgraded from
6.5.0, to 6.5.1, I found that the browser window would not open for me
either.
What turned out to be the problem was that the Norton "personal
firewall" that came installed on my computer was blocking internet
access for 6.5.1,
bergek;173335 Wrote:
> At the same time I am a firm believer in having a home server which is
> on 24/7 and not requiring your desktop computer to be on just to play
> some music.
Run that by me again?
You're a firm believer in having a home server which is on 24/7. Which
can be a desktop comp
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sfraser wrote:
GenPatton;173190 Wrote:
Great!
Got all your suggestions.
As to running Vista, I would rather crawl on broken glass.
I will be running Win XP Pro or Win2k3.
Thanks again for all who replied and your kind help.
I decided on getting two gigs of ram just to be sure.
Yea tha
Zed Roeder wrote:
Peter;173280 Wrote:
Zed Roeder wrote:[color=blue]
Now you must edit the mythtv .lircrc file to tell mythtv what buttons
to
react to and what to do when they are pressed. Note that Lirc.pm only
forwards codes it recognizes. At the moment that means the slimdevices
remote,
bklaas;173356 Wrote:
> In short, no.
>
> Just looked at it. Interesting, but it's basically a coverflow
> knock-off designed for use only in Windows Vista. That doesn't fit into
> the slimserver architecture in any way that I can see.
>
> They use Amazon's search API to auto-download cover art
Fletch
Thanks I found your reply and the other thread very interesting. I am
not sure that I am up to altering the code of AlienBBC to make this
work. However, your reply did give me an idea. I tried to listen to
an alienBBC feed on my laptop using softsqueeze and it works. So I
have a partia
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snarlydwarf;173353 Wrote:
> try turning off your firewall on your server.
>
> (When you upgrade software, the firewall will not know that it is the
> same program and will block it.)
I just did, exactly the same, radio ok, mp3 ok but no sound for my ALAC
files... i need music i think i'll go ba
Do not feel lonely:-)
I'm having the same problems as you guys. Freezing SB3 for approx
30sec.
My PC and my SB3 is connected to wireless but this have been ok for a
week now. (Just bought my SB3)
Suddenly this problem accured. Why?
It seems to happen more frequently when i'm browsing in large
brunodenis;173349 Wrote:
> bklass,
>
> Have you heard about harmony3 from thirteen23.com(.net3 coverflow
> equivalent) ?
> Do you think such kind of feature might be integrated into a skin or
> plugin or whatever tweak to develop ?
In short, no.
Just looked at it. Interesting, but it's basica
bergek wrote:
brunodenis;173329 Wrote:
I am not a apple fan but I love the coverflow feature. I wish it could
be integrated into SS but repsonse times would be even slower.
Dito on the Apple fan part. You are not alone at thinking that the web
gui is awfully slow and not really that fa
As well, thinking about iphone's abilities to drive itunes might be fun
and easy integration.
talking back about La Rosita (Apertura), I haven(t heard the product
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damned006;173352 Wrote:
>
> I just tried to play MP3 and wav. ok for mp3 but for the .wav it plays
> the first mp3 i read, strange !
> Actually I just use ALAC files from itunes 6 and SB3 acts like it plays
> something, there is no error but no sound...
try turning off your firewall on your ser
Hi ceejay,
I use XP 2 and
SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252
Server IP address: 192.168.0.1
Perl Version: 5.8.8 MSWin32-x86-multi-thread
MySQL Version: 5.0.22-community-
I just tried to play MP3 and wav. ok for mp3 but for the .wav it plays
the first mp3 i read, strang
bergek;173335 Wrote:
> I wish that SS would be more layered (i.e. core functions separated from
> the web gui). To overcome the slowness of the web gui, I have been
> thinking about making a very simple client application (or even a new
> web application) to quickly be able to browse my collectio
bklass,
Have you heard about harmony3 from thirteen23.com(.net3 coverflow
equivalent) ?
Do you think such kind of feature might be integrated into a skin or
plugin or whatever tweak to develop ?
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bergek;173335 Wrote:
> People want coverflow.
FWIW, use the "Touch" skin and select "1-by-1 Artwork" from the main
page. This coverflow-like feature will be further enhanced in 7.0.
I doubt this will appease the "why can't slimserver do things exactly
like I think it should" crowd, but this is
If you are streaming WAV that's pretty much worst case for the wireless
network - perhaps you have a new source of interference nearby?
Try setting the server to allow it to send FLAC streams instead of WAV,
that's a little bit easier ... or a different wireless channel.
Ceejay
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brunodenis;173329 Wrote:
> I am not a apple fan but I love the coverflow feature. I wish it could
> be integrated into SS but repsonse times would be even slower.
Dito on the Apple fan part. You are not alone at thinking that the web
gui is awfully slow and not really that fancy looking. At the
Until last night, everything was working just fine. Now, several seconds
after I start playing any track, the sound distorts and breaks up
severely.
I'm guessing that the several seconds delay might be something to do
with a cache emptying somewhere, but why the sudden symptoms.
The bandwidth figu
servies;173285 Wrote:
> That only shows that you really don't get it.
> The AAE is (roughly seen) just a cable between your computers audio
> outputs and your HIFI's inputs. It has no control over the iTunes
> application, therefore I need the computer on which iTunes is running
> to be within re
ceejay;173318 Wrote:
> ok, that eliminates a few possibilities...
>
> Can you try it wired instead of wireless, just as an experiment?
OK will try that but it will take me some time to set up. I will let
you know of the outcome. By the way, if it is important: the wireless
signal is between 88-
uninstalled, reinstalled it a THIRD time, must be a charm.. seems so far
to be fine.. weird...
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cumry;173313 Wrote:
> I do believe it was actually 6.5. as I update evertyhing once it is
> released.
ok, that eliminates a few possibilities...
Can you try it wired instead of wireless, just as an experiment?
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ceejay
Greg Erskine;173241 Wrote:
> hi ceejay,
>
> Slightly OT. I recently bought a Topfield TF6000PVR which has wireless
> networking. Works OK, but they could learn a few things from
> Slimserver/Squeezebox.
>
> Another option, I have heard people connecting PVRs USB to an
> intermediate box (ICE bo
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