Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-27 Thread erland
Doesn't the removed albums and tracks appear again when you use Music Folder browsing ? I thought the SBS scanner rescanned automatically when browsing a folder with the browse Music Folder mechanism. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins th

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread mortslim
The iPad is not for everyone. It is not a be all, do all machine. It won't cook you your breakfast. That being said, it is basically a larger screen iPod Touch. The large screen benefits for visual features: reading email, tweets, blogs, webpages, books, magazines and newspapers; watching vid

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread peterw
havoc1;59 Wrote: > As for no multi-tasking - I nearly fell off my chair. No multitasking, no webcam, and I can only run App Store titles, even if I buy the $829 version? How much money do you have to give Apple before you get a computer you can actually control? I think a lot of us hoped for

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Goodsounds
Apple has produced a lot of innovative products over the years. That momentum, and their understanding of how to create buzz, have made Ipods and iphones huge hits that buried the competition. Ipad may be more likely to be a yawner. The reports I've seen so far suggest many view it as under-spec'e

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread MeSue
audiomuze;511140 Wrote: > Can anyone point me to decent pictures of the device that show its > actual size? The dimensions are posted here: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ > > > Height: > 9.56 inches (242.8 mm) > Width: > 7.47 inches (189.7 mm) > Depth: > 0.5 inch (13.4 mm) > Weight: > 1.5 po

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread audiomuze
MeSue;511133 Wrote: > I agree... it's too honking big!Can anyone point me to decent pictures of the > device that show its actual size? On the surface of it I'd think it'd be a great device to have lying around in the lounge/ TV room for general surfing, email and, of course, controlling Squeez

Re: [slim] still no presentation-layer dedupe of albums

2010-01-27 Thread chroma
i appreciate that some of you are trying to be helpful. let me clarify the requirements again: - the filesystem must remain unmodified. no symlinks. no changing whats there. it is a correct set of collections of collections. it is correctly tagged. - users want to be able to use the "browse musi

[slim] Squeezebox Duet will play for 3 seconds then buffer

2010-01-27 Thread mikeemman
Hi All, I am trying to diagnose an issue that I am having. Squeezebox duet will play for a few seconds then cut out, saying its buffering. It will then say it times out and cannot connect to the library any more. The firewall is off on my computer. My computer is about 2 years old. There int

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread MeSue
pippin;511061 Wrote: > > But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. I agree... it's too honking big! I was resistant to the iTouch for a long time, but now that I have one, I love it. It's the perfect size. (As I wrote in my blog today, I don't buy clothes without pockets anym

Re: [slim] SqueezeBox V2 name in SB Server

2010-01-27 Thread lemmy999
Thats a good point. I haven't checked that. Thanks. -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74571

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread GeeJay
I'll start paying attention to these competitors when a) the price comes down below $1k for a multi-room setup, and b) they come up with software that approaches the genius of Erland's suite of plugins...the closest thing to the perfection I'm seeking in combining the dynamic nature of a commercia

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread havoc1
I find web ui performance fine too, although I do use Chrome for it. The iPad is a rather bizarre looking thing, like they thought they'd just supersize an iPhone. Not too sure if that's the right way forward. As for no multi-tasking - I nearly fell off my chair. Agree with Pipin that not multi

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread autopilot
iPhone;511001 Wrote: > WHY would it cost to much? And are you telling us that you use "every" > available feature on your current Squeezeboxes? I understand you use the > main one, Audio. Would you not use Video if it were available? > > There are two devices for under $250 that do just what SB

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread Danione
aubuti;511091 Wrote: > Note that after getting one Olive 4/4HD as your server ($1500 - 2000), > for the other rooms you could use the Olive 2 players, which are "only" > $600 each. Yeah, that's steep. I sort of like the Olive 2 thingy, but I'd never buy the Olive 4/4hd. I want to get rid of boxe

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread aubuti
toby10;511084 Wrote: > But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my home? Note that after getting one Olive 4/4HD as your server ($1500 - 2000), for the other rooms you could use the Olive 2 players, which are "only" $600 each. Yeah, that's steep. -- aubuti --

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread iPhone
toby10;511084 Wrote: > I like three olives with my martini's. > But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my > home? > > I'll stick to SB players and put the difference into my IRA, thank you. > :) +1 And a better return on your investment also! And you must have a huge

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread cooppw02
pippin;511068 Wrote: > Maybe if you have some weird Hi-Speed server. On my machines the Web UI > is simply way too slow. My server setup is somewhat good (Linux, 2.2Ghz dual-core mobile cpu, 3GB RAM, however it is connected via wireless), but that's only half the story: good Javascript performan

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread iPhone
erland;511070 Wrote: > Agreed, half the size would be better for a Squeezebox remote. > Still, I'll be standing in line to buy iPeng (or something similar) for > iPad. No standing in line necessary, their all Apps that are downloaded from iTunes! Now the iPad itself is a different story, if one

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread DoomWolf
I watched/listened to the whole launch event and iPeng was the first thing that went through my mind when they started talking about third-party apps. When iPeng finally gets the update to allow it to act as a player, I can see putting the iPad into a dock that's connected to some speakers, and ha

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread toby10
I like three olives with my martini's. But how much would it cost to sync three Olive music systems in my home? I'll stick to SB players and put the difference into my IRA, thank you. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http:/

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread lymzy
I always want a 10" device for hi-res cover browsing. A UI similar to AEON on XBMC would make a fantastic touch screen remote for squeezebox.(http://www.aeonproject.com/) I wish iPeng could someday support backdrop with horizontal text based menu bar. +

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread maggior
pippin;511061 Wrote: > > But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. Will try to > play around with the SDK, download servers are pretty down right now and > I have to find out which computer to spare since as usual you can't > develop for both versions on one machine :urgh: I t

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread pippin
mherger;511073 Wrote: > > I don't see why a server application should run on a portable device? > Oh, _I_ would find streaming from iPod to SB not too bad an idea. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com --

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Herger
> In addition to iPeng on the iPad, what about Logitech porting the entire > SqueezeCenter software to the iPad? I don't see why a server application should run on a portable device? -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com ht

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread DaveWr
pippin;511068 Wrote: > On my machines the Web UI is simply way too slow. And not a very good at playlist building,. but it is green in parts Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread erland
pippin;511061 Wrote: > > But honestly: _I_ find it too big. But that may be just me. > Agreed, half the size would be better for a Squeezebox remote. Still, I'll be standing in line to buy iPeng (or something similar) for iPad. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksso

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread pippin
epoch1970;511046 Wrote: > Really, I don't know. Engadget says so in their hands-on. For me this > means limited prowess when connected to a LAN, and no VPN when on the > move, that's disappointing. > Read through the SDK summary: It's correct, no multitasking mortslim;511049 Wrote: > In addit

Re: [slim] Music Library - spanning more than one Disc volume

2010-01-27 Thread Phil Leigh
snarlydwarf;510731 Wrote: > What I would do: > > Create a new directory somewhere convenient to you. > > In that new directory, create a shortcut to "D:\music1" and another > to "e:\music2". > > Tell SBS that new directory is your library. > > Or you could have a shortcut on D:\music1 that p

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread pippin
iPhone;511042 Wrote: > According to some of the Tech Gadget Sites, all iPhone apps will work on > the iPad and work perfectly if the author does some simple display > changes to take advantage of the larger display. That is good news. Everything is supposed to run but will then likely just look

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread cooppw02
Is a specialized app really necessary for something this size? Wouldn't it be easier just to load up the normal web UI in Safari? I'm genuinely curious; I've never even held an iPhone. I'm a Duet owner, and I've found that when I have a laptop and the Controller in the same room, I generally pr

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread jtf
iPeng on iPad my first thoughts when I saw the announcement. I came here KNOWING there would be a forum topic about it and it's already 2 pages. You guys don't disappoint! Jeff -- jtf jtf's Profile: http://forums.slimd

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread mortslim
In addition to iPeng on the iPad, what about Logitech porting the entire SqueezeCenter software to the iPad? -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://fo

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread epoch1970
pippin;511038 Wrote: > Really? > While I still insist that NOT multitasking is one of the success > factors for iPhone (after working a bit with WinMobile again over the > weekend I am reassured about that) I think for THIS thing it should > be... Really, I don't know. Engadget says so in their

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting iPhone (iphone.45gsxz1264624...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com): > > pippin;511037 Wrote: > > I've said it over and over again: get the biggest artwork you can find, > > 600x600 is not the end of all screens. > > > > No idea about iPad, yet. It's obviously iPhone OS but I have to dig > >

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread iPhone
pippin;511037 Wrote: > I've said it over and over again: get the biggest artwork you can find, > 600x600 is not the end of all screens. > > No idea about iPad, yet. It's obviously iPhone OS but I have to dig > through the doc to find out how it's different. According to some of the Tech Gadget

Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3

2010-01-27 Thread SilverRS8
arubaluba;511022 Wrote: > Hello, > > today I tried ACC version 3.0.1 but unfortunately i got the following > error. See screenshot. It's partly in Dutch but I think you'll > understand, Frank. I have to say that ACC version 2.1 runs fine, so I > don't understand the ODBC-driver error. Does anybo

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread linvale
Now this may finalise the decision that I don't need a touch to treat my addiction - with my existing players and an iPad/iPeng combination the only realimportant capability the touch might provide is higher audio resoltion - and my transporter provides this beautifully for serious listening and

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread pippin
"epoch1970" Wrote: > I read the damn thing still isn't multitasking :( Really? While I still insist that NOT multitasking is one of the success factors for iPhone (after working a bit with WinMobile again over the weekend I am reassured about that) I think for THIS thing it should be... -- pip

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread pippin
I've said it over and over again: get the biggest artwork you can find, 600x600 is not the end of all screens. No idea about iPad, yet. It's obviously iPhone OS but I have to dig through the doc to find out how it's different. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinl

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread epoch1970
I read the damn thing still isn't multitasking :( -- epoch1970 epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread ModelCitizen
I've always known a day would come when I would regret sizing all my cover artwork to 300x300. It's today. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known Last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitize

Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3

2010-01-27 Thread arubaluba
Thanks Nathan for your reply. But according to the website ODBC v5.1 is required for ACC v2.0 and up. Since ACC 2.1 is running fine here I think the ODBC driver v5.1 is installed correctly on my PC. There must be something else wrong. Regards, Rene. -- arubaluba ---

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread andyg
Heh, Rhapsody is still 170x170, even after I have bugged them for YEARS about this. :( -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthre

Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread ajkidle
Funny, I was just checking in to see if any iPad threads had started yet. Would the album artwork scale appropriately? Seems like a potential issue, especially Pandora or Rhapsody sourced stuff. -- ajkidle 2x SBR, Boom, Radio, iPeng ---

Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3

2010-01-27 Thread nathan_h
Version 3.x uses a different ODBC driver than version 2.x. Details on the web site. I don't know whether this is the problem BUT if you didn't install the newer ODBC driver, give that a try. -- nathan_h nathan_h's Profil

Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3

2010-01-27 Thread arubaluba
Hello, today I tried ACC version 3.0.1 but unfortunately i got the following error. See screenshot. It's partly in Dutch but I think you'll understand, Frank. I have to say that ACC version 2.1 runs fine, so I don't understand the ODBC-driver error. Does anybody have a clue? Thanks in advance. B

[slim] iPeng on iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread yoyoma
Any chance for an iPad optimized version of iPeng? That would be so cool. -- yoyoma yoyoma's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9170 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74

Re: [slim] Announce: New Squeezeslave 0.9 Release available on sourceforge

2010-01-27 Thread indifference_engine
bobkoure;510655 Wrote: > You might just read the 'notes' > (http://code.google.com/p/squeezeslave/source/list)... thanks. I've been round and round the wiki but I've obviously been looking in the wrong place :) -- indifference_engine ---

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread iPhone
autopilot;510888 Wrote: > > There is a cost element too. Surely a video capable device would cost > more to develop and produce the an audio. I would not want to pay for > features I never use. > > WHY would it cost to much? And are you telling us that you use "every" available feature on yo

Re: [slim] SqueezeBox V2 name in SB Server

2010-01-27 Thread Mnyb
Did he removed it from his mysqueezebox.com (aka squeezenetwork) account ? -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and th

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread alfista
snarlydwarf;510953 Wrote: > That and the usage model of video is entirely different than music. > > There are very few movies that I have watched more than a dozen times. > I have many many albums that I have listened to dozens of times, and > will listen to dozens of times more. > > Regardles

[slim] SqueezeBox V2 name in SB Server

2010-01-27 Thread lemmy999
I have purchased a used V2 SqueezeBox with 130 firmware. It works great except for the name. The previous owner had it named "Family Room". I go in SqueezeBox Server and change the name and for a while it remembers the name, but after a while (maybe after a power cycle? ) it reverts back to "Fam

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread maggior
mherger;510816 Wrote: > Even MS had to learn this lesson and therefore published "Mommy, Why is > There a Server in the House?" > > http://gizmodo.com/342499/microsofts-brainwashing-childrens-book-mommy-where-do-servers-come-from > -- > Michael As a brief aside, I thought this was a joke when

Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion

2010-01-27 Thread DaveWr
Well incompetence, frankly with the investment in portfolio development, somebody should get sacked for the whole communications / market experience. It's not the developer's jobs to inform and educate. -- DaveWr Dave

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread bhaagensen
aubuti: Indeed, and I somewhat agree with you in that there, for all practical intents and purposes, currently are several market-segments for these things. However at the end of the day I don't think they are that different. I'm a computer scientist, and I do have a server doing various things.

Re: [slim] I'd Like to Listen to Television Audio on my Boom

2010-01-27 Thread aubuti
this may be heretical, but at least it's simple: Take a smartphone with wifi, tune in the desired program via hulu.com, nbc.com, or other site, and then put the phone face down on the bedside table. I can understand the OP's point that -It seems to me with all we can access, Television Audio shou

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread aubuti
bhaagensen;510959 Wrote: > Sorry, but I don't think this argument holds water. It is assuming > everyone can be bothered to: buy, own, maintain, pay for, allocate space > for, have some remote interest in - a server. I doubt that is the case > for the general public - at least not to an extent wh

Re: [slim] I'd Like to Listen to Television Audio on my Boom

2010-01-27 Thread funkstar
PequaFrog;510760 Wrote: > That's nuts! > There's a LOT of people who used to buy these old television band > radios so they can listen to a few stations at least. There HAS to be a > better way!!! perhaps in the US, I've never heard of them before though :) -- funkstar my collection: *1*x sq

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread bhaagensen
pablolie;510951 Wrote: > > so i think the basic architecture of some systems is flawed by trying > to be some sort of new appliance that replicates functionality that is > available elsewhere, and includes areas of expertise that are alien to > audio vendors (why on earth should they design a be

Re: [slim] Mysqueezebox.com - passwird issue, cant use iPeng now

2010-01-27 Thread pippin
I assume your issue is fixed now? Anyway, for others running into the same thing: The "password" entry field on the MySB login page is NOT tagged as a "password" field. This results in the password being shown AND (and this can be an issue) the first letter is automatically capitalized. So be car

Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion

2010-01-27 Thread bruce
snarlydwarf;510956 Wrote: > > Some things are better done by small groups. > Don't blame this on size. Amazon does a fine job of selling stuff. This is an issue of competence. -- bruce bruce's Profile: http://forums.sl

Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion

2010-01-27 Thread snarlydwarf
aubuti;510942 Wrote: > Looks more to me like a 2 person shop, with each one out to undermine > the other Actually I think it -was- a one or two person job for slimdevices.com.. it's when Logitech corporate took the ordering on theselves that it got screwed up. A combination of 'one size fit

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread snarlydwarf
usch;510837 Wrote: > Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I > start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current > state of my hard- and software and stop updating. > > Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have > the

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread pablolie
what i don't get about many of these other offerings is that they want me to replace my CD player with a new box - a server/player-combo-box that stroes my music there. err, i have a perfectly good server in the house, and i don't want a music server as a replacement for my CD player - i want a ve

Re: [slim] 7.5 Release Date

2010-01-27 Thread aubuti
Word is that 7.5 will be released when the SB Touch is released, and there are lots of wild rumors and speculation flying around these forums and elsewhere on the net about the release date of the SB Touch. The best answer is "when it is ready". -- aubuti ---

Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion

2010-01-27 Thread aubuti
HeavyB;510928 Wrote: > it is almost as if the sales/marketing department and the web site are a > 1 person shop. Looks more to me like a 2 person shop, with each one out to undermine the other -- aubuti aubuti's Profi

Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3

2010-01-27 Thread SilverRS8
Rick B.;510931 Wrote: > I'm not sure if anyone has raised this situation: You've printed a > beautiful color catalog of 100 or 200 pages long - great - but now I've > bought a few new albums. I don't really want to print a whole new > catalog just to include a handful of new albums. > > Instead,

Re: [slim] Mysqueezebox.com - passwird issue, cant use iPeng now

2010-01-27 Thread tomaltenk
Hi. I'm having trouble accessing my squeezebox account through ipeng. I enter the correct email and password, but it says "invalid email/password". It's definitely the correct information as I've verified it multiple times on mysqueezebox.com. I do not have my own server running--I just wan

[slim] 7.5 Release Date

2010-01-27 Thread jwagner010
Does anyone know or have a sense for when we can expect the official release of 7.5? -- jwagner010 jwagner010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator v3

2010-01-27 Thread Rick B .
I'm not sure if anyone has raised this situation: You've printed a beautiful color catalog of 100 or 200 pages long - great - but now I've bought a few new albums. I don't really want to print a whole new catalog just to include a handful of new albums. Instead, I think I'd want to print a separa

Re: [slim] Logitech marketing confusion

2010-01-27 Thread HeavyB
I concur with the frustration expressed here. I love my Squeezebox but it is almost as if the sales/marketing department and the web site are a 1 person shop. -- HeavyB HeavyB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/memb

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread BlueScreenJunky
usch;510837 Wrote: > Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I > start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current > state of my hard- and software and stop updating. > > Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have > the

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread autopilot
usch;510837 Wrote: > Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I > start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current > state of my hard- and software and stop updating. > > Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have > the

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread DaveWr
+1 Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74510 ___ discuss mail

Re: [slim] The competition is catching up and some surpassing Squeezebox...fast!

2010-01-27 Thread usch
Argh. The day when Squeezebox goes video will probably be the day when I start looking for a different system. Or at least freeze the current state of my hard- and software and stop updating. Video is a completely different concept. For example, you don't have the typical artist / album / track r

Re: [slim] I'd Like to Listen to Television Audio on my Boom

2010-01-27 Thread Mnyb
Is there analog TV anywhere these days ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_television_transition -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to b