[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Ramage
I think you are asking whether the SB2 can be used as a Wireless Access Point to access your server. There are a number of threads on this forum dealing with this, and the bottom line is that the SB2/3 can not be used as a WAP. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version:

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Puggie
Thanks I had searched but most of what I'd found dealt with using the SB as a bridge and I couldn't find anything quite as specific as I wanted. -- Puggie Puggie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Puggie
I want to be able to do a rsync between 2 servers to keep their music folders identical (I will update the main server then rsync to the secondary server). I want to access the secondary server using the SB2 as its wireless connection. does that make sense? to expand the application a little, th

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Ramage
Your intentions are now a little clearer. I think you will be able to do what you want, as the SB2 will connect the server in the car to your wireless network in the house and the second server. Quite a novel project. Good luck -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Versio

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Puggie
Cool! I'm trying to set up a single server for home with all my music stored as FLAC to retire my cd collection, I can then access this from anywhere in the house (and work), all my music at the touch of a button. I then want to duplicate this in the car so I have all my music available there too

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Ramage
Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked perfectly. I am able to connect the SB directly

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
Ramage;172228 Wrote: > Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: > > * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable > * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. > > Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked > perfectly. >

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
Peter;172348 Wrote: > Perhaps someone changed the squeezebox firmware to allow this. If Ramage > > wants to make sure the traffic between the SB and the slimserver is not > > going over the wireless interface (twice) he could try switching off > the > WAP. If it still works then the traffic ob

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread seanadams
Mark Lanctot;172337 Wrote: > I'm amazed this all works? > > Because this is a convoluted wireless arrangement. Say the SB3 wants > to send something to SlimServer. It can't do this over its crossover > cable because you've told it to use the wireless interface and bridge > the Ethernet port.

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
seanadams;172362 Wrote: > That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in > bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is > on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. > > Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to conf

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Ramage
I did check my test setup with the wireless access point disabled and the NSLU slimserver continued to work with the SB3 over the wired xover cable. When the wireless link was restored, access from the PC to the NSLU was restored. I was quite impressed by the functionality, confirmed by Sean. G

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread azinck3
Peter;172381 Wrote: > Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could > function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in > > ad-hoc mode? > > Regards, > Peter I think you're right, but that it would be quite an interesting poor man who has a squee

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Mark Lanctot
Peter;172380 Wrote: > I hope you have now learned to never underestimate a SqueezeBox, Marc! > ;) Most definitely. What's interesting about this is that this is above and beyond what is required. The Squeezebox operating in bridge mode really doesn't need to check if there are any packets dest

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread azinck3
Peter;172405 Wrote: > azinck3 wrote: > > Peter;172381 Wrote: > > > >> Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode > could > >> function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC > in > >> > >> ad-hoc mode? > >> > >> Regards, > >> Peter > >> > > > >

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread seanadams
Peter;172381 Wrote: > > Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could > > function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in > > ad-hoc mode? Yes it can. In fact you can even connect two Squeezeboxes to each other in ad-hoc mode with bridging enab

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-21 Thread Puggie
sounds great guys, once I have re-read this thread a few times and absorbed the content properly I should know exactly what its capable of. For this project its more a case of I'll have a SB2 there and will occasionally need a wireless bridge so it would save both cash and equipment if the SB2 wou

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-24 Thread Eric Carroll
seanadams;172362 Wrote: > That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in > bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is > on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. > Sean, If I may say as a guy who does IP networking for a living,

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-24 Thread Eric Carroll
Mark Lanctot;172391 Wrote: > About the only drawback to this arrangement is if you have another > Squeezebox on the wireless portion because it'll be a 2-hop arrangement > - which isn't a problem for some people though. Mark, Some points that I hope are not already clear but hopefully address a

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-24 Thread Mark Lanctot
Eric Carroll;173946 Wrote: > If you were going multiple times over the same wireless network, that > would be an issue, but that is not what is happening in this example. Hmm? I thought it was? NAS (SlimServer) - SB (acting as bridge) to router, one wireless hop. Router/AP to another SB, wire

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-24 Thread Eric Carroll
Ah, my apologies. By router you mean Wireless Access Point, which can be a router or a bridge. Mine happens to be a bridge so I thought you meant a different topology. My bad I didn't read carefully enough. In the case you are talking about looks like this? SlimServer - SB(bridge) - Wireless - W

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-24 Thread Eric Carroll
Mark Lanctot;173957 Wrote: > Hmm? I thought it was? > > NAS (SlimServer) - SB (acting as bridge) to router, one wireless hop. > > Router/AP to another SB, wireless, 2nd wireless hop. > Well, my bad, that will teach me to respond without reading more carefully, and I know better. Sorry. "rou

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread oreillymj
Just going back to the orignal reason the poster asked this question, a car based Slimserver. Has anyone got experience of runing a hard-drive continuously in a car. I'd have thought the constant shocks would dramatically shorten the lifespan of a HD. The roads in this country vary from good moto

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread oreillymj
Strange, I'm on my 2nd hard drive in the laptop I've had for < 2yrs. And I consider my self careful. It spends most of it's life on my, in hibernation or fairly stable on my lap. And the laptop has those sensors which detect movement and tell the drive to spin down. The 2nd drive was installed i

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread seanadams
Eric Carroll;173946 Wrote: > > The simple fact is that the cut through time (time from first bit in to > first bit out with no queueing delay) on a two port bridge (which is > what the SB3 is) is measured in microseconds. I think that could only be true of an hardware ethernet switch (in silic

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread Eric Carroll
seanadams;174097 Wrote: > One thing that is interesting about the Ubicom platform we use is that > they implement the ethernet MAC in software. I assumed you used a Ethernet MAC chipset, which are relatively cheap these days and can do hardware cut through, but software is even less expensive.

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread seanadams
Since I happen to have a shielded RF test enclosure in front of me with an access point and a Squeezebox in it, here are the actual numbers. I have the computer wired directly to the squeezebox, and squeezebox connecting to the access point with bridging enabled. First, ping the Squeezebox direct

[slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread Eric Carroll
Very nifty! And I guessed 24 Mb/s with no measurement, no data and just a virtual napkin... This is getting to be too much like work. :-) I think I will go listen to my Transporter :-) -- Eric Carroll Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4 SB3-Rotel RB890-B&W Matrix 805

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Peter
Ramage wrote: I think you are asking whether the SB2 can be used as a Wireless Access Point to access your server. Not necessarily. Perhaps he wants his server to access the access point through the SB3. Unusual solution but it might well work. Regards, Peter ___

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Peter
Puggie wrote: Cool! I'm trying to set up a single server for home with all my music stored as FLAC to retire my cd collection, I can then access this from anywhere in the house (and work), all my music at the touch of a button. I then want to duplicate this in the car so I have all my music avail

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Peter
Ramage wrote: Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked perfectly. I am able to connect t

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: Ramage;172228 Wrote: Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked per

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Peter
Mark Lanctot wrote: seanadams;172362 Wrote: That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that y

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Peter
seanadams wrote: Mark Lanctot;172337 Wrote: I'm amazed this all works? Because this is a convoluted wireless arrangement. Say the SB3 wants to send something to SlimServer. It can't do this over its crossover cable because you've told it to use the wireless interface and bridge the Etherne

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-20 Thread Peter
azinck3 wrote: Peter;172381 Wrote: Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Regards, Peter I think you're right, but that it would be quite an interesting poor man who

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-21 Thread Peter
azinck3 wrote: Peter;172405 Wrote: azinck3 wrote: Peter;172381 Wrote: Sean, wouldn't that also imply that an SB running in bridge mode could function as a poor man's access point by connecting to a wireless PC in ad-hoc mode? Regards, Peter

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread Peter
oreillymj wrote: Just going back to the orignal reason the poster asked this question, a car based Slimserver. Has anyone got experience of runing a hard-drive continuously in a car. I'd have thought the constant shocks would dramatically shorten the lifespan of a HD. The roads in this country v

Re: [slim] Re: Wireless bridge question

2007-01-25 Thread Peter
oreillymj wrote: Strange, I'm on my 2nd hard drive in the laptop I've had for < 2yrs. And I consider my self careful. It spends most of it's life on my, in hibernation or fairly stable on my lap. And the laptop has those sensors which detect movement and tell the drive to spin down. The 2nd dri