Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-28 Thread Nonreality
Phil Leigh;521081 Wrote: Nonreality - check the dns setings in your router and xp network settings - tcp/ip properties and also in your sb's Could my SB3 have an old router setting stuck in it so that it is trying access that when my computer is off? If so how do I tell or fix it? --

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-28 Thread Mnyb
Nonreality;521504 Wrote: Could my SB3 have an old router setting stuck in it so that it is trying access that when my computer is off? If so how do I tell or fix it? check current settings , hold left arrow for a while then the SB3 enters Squeezebox Setup Then you have Current Settings (2

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-27 Thread Mnyb
Nonreality;521041 Wrote: Great comment. Mine has has a buffering problem for the first time ever with flac running on a XP machine. Never ever had the problem until 7.2.4 Maybe it's a joke to you but not to me. Only on flac and up until now it had never happened. I'm pretty sure it's

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-27 Thread Phil Leigh
There should be no problem running on XP with 7.2.4. IS your system all-wired? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-27 Thread Nonreality
Mnyb;521047 Wrote: Your machine is certainly 1000 times faster than some of these NAS boxes I suppose the joke was not on you. Xp that was a long ago but anything around 1-1.6mHz with =1GB ram should certainly do it very well, some run XP with only 512mB of RAM thats barely enough to keep

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-27 Thread Mnyb
Nonreality;521051 Wrote: If I understand you right then yes my results are 100% as far as the test go. I also have 2gb of ram. It only has about 20 feet to go so not a long distance. I admit I've shied away from flac ever since i've had problems with it. So right now I'm playing some flac

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-27 Thread Phil Leigh
Nonreality - check the dns setings in your router and xp network settings - tcp/ip properties and also in your sb's -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-26 Thread Nonreality
andyg;441530 Wrote: Before you give up, try and see if running SC on a server that is faster than your cell phone fixes the problem. :) I kid, but only slightly, about how slow the non-x86 ReadyNAS boxes are. Great comment. Mine has has a buffering problem for the first time ever with flac

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-22 Thread kunlun121
GeeJay;519260 Wrote: One of the things I've learned from these forums is that you may not be doing anything differently, but the environment in which the system operates may have changed. In your case, it's a move to a new home. There may be interference that didn't exist in your own home.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-21 Thread kunlun121
Phil Leigh;518796 Wrote: It's possible that your problems are not network related at the hardware level but at the IP level - possible IP/MAC address conflicts or packet collisions. If you want to fix this, disconnect EVERYTHING except your router, SBS machine and SB hardware. Then reboot

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-21 Thread kunlun121
GeeJay;519049 Wrote: I found that even 75%-80% wireless strength wasn't enough when streaming FLAC files. It has to be over 90% for me to avoid performance issues. Thank you too. I'm not sure if this is the problem however. In my old house I used a Belkin modem/router combination machine.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-21 Thread Phil Leigh
kunlun121;519096 Wrote: Thank you very much for your reply. I'm having some trouble trying this tho. My router is wired - no wireless functionality. So the controller won't be able to connect if i eliminate the access point. But I guess I can wire the router to the squeezebox receiver and

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-21 Thread GeeJay
kunlun121;519097 Wrote: Thank you too. I'm not sure if this is the problem however. In my old house I used a Belkin modem/router combination machine. Worked flawlessly - never seen the machine rebuffer ever. I'm pretty sure it didn't reach 90% signal strength consistently, probably much more

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-20 Thread wonder boy
^^^ moving from channel 6 to 1 has lead to squeezebox heaven for me. 3 sb all wireless synced without a hiccup for a couple of weeks now! -- wonder boy wonder boy's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-20 Thread Mnyb
audioch;515821 Wrote: I am using SB3 wireless , 7.4.1, firmware 130 and play 24/96 AIFF files (heck even tried 24/352 and its fine) with FLAC stream format + SOX decoder. But, 24/96 WAV files using FLAC stream format + SOX decoder will not play--constant rebuffering. The AIFF and WAV files

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-20 Thread Phil Leigh
kunlun121;518690 Wrote: Me too... Having just moved into a new house, rebuffering problems started occurring. Because the new house is much larger than the old one, I couldn't suffice with a single wireless access point. With my laptop in the room where my stereo is I couldn't pick up the

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-20 Thread GeeJay
I found that even 75%-80% wireless strength wasn't enough when streaming FLAC files. It has to be over 90% for me to avoid performance issues. -- GeeJay GeeJay's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-19 Thread kunlun121
Me too... Having just moved into a new house, rebuffering problems started occurring. Because the new house is much larger than the old one, I couldn't suffice with a single wireless access point. With my laptop in the room where my stereo is I couldn't pick up the signal of the wireless router,

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-10 Thread audioch
I am using SB3 wireless , 7.4.1, firmware 130 and play 24/96 AIFF files (heck even tried 24/352 and its fine) with FLAC stream format + SOX decoder. But, 24/96 WAV files using FLAC stream format + SOX decoder will not play--constant rebuffering. The AIFF and WAV files are the same size, so it

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-09 Thread GregD
I've reported a bug in the OS priorities used on the Windows platform that I think contributes to this problem. Please vote for it:- https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15650 - Greg -- GregD GregD's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-06 Thread pablolie
I am occasionally experiencing rebuffering when playing music, it seems to be the case when I synch 2 or more (never more than 4) players. In fact, it is happening with every song I am listening to right now. The songs stop and SBS seems to be in a ten second loop in timing, but goes silent,

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-05 Thread Robedubdub
I was having re-buffering issues as well. Turned out my problems were, 1 interference and 2 weak Access-point. I live in Amsterdam and there are SO many wlan's around me that the biggest problem for me was interference. I used wifiradar (Linux) to see what channels were being used around me and

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-03 Thread Pascal Hibon
wonder boy;513004 Wrote: Changed channel from 6 to 1 and had seamless playing on all 3 all evening. Will see if it remains so tomorrow. Great. That means you probably were experiencing interference on channel 6. -- Pascal Hibon __ 2 x SB3 -

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-02 Thread wonder boy
I ran net stumbler and as I suspected there are no other signals in my immediate area. I live in a semi-rural area with a fair distance between houses most of which are occupied by the aging retired! Will look at the channel my router is on and may try and change it if I can figure out how. --

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-02 Thread Pascal Hibon
NetStumbler is a very good tool but it will only read signals coming from Access Points. It cannot read or detect signals from other sources (read, sources that are not formatting the wireless signals as AP do). It still is possible that there is another source active on the 2.4GHz band causing

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-02 Thread ebin
Just my 2 cents... If the router is old, replace it with a new one (they don't last forever) My new LinkSys WRT54GL is a dream, great signal strength Try to get AP closer, moved mine and it now works great for my wireless SB3s and gave the opportunity to Ethernet the Duet Change the channel

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-02 Thread wonder boy
Pascal Hibon;512974 Wrote: NetStumbler is a very good tool but it will only read signals coming from Access Points. It cannot read or detect signals from other sources (read, sources that are not formatting the wireless signals as AP do). It still is possible that there is another source

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-02 Thread browellm
I think it is worth reiterating the advice in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=477794#post477794 I had a similar situation with rebuffering after moving my server to a new installation on WHS. I had previously used a fairly powerful desktop pc, and never had any

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-01 Thread Pascal Hibon
I’m also on one of the nightly builds of 7.4.2. Until now I haven’t experienced rebuffering anymore. In my case, 7.3.3 was the source of rebuffering. -- Pascal Hibon __ 2 x SB3 - both wireless, ReadyNAS NV+ running SBS, iPeng on iPod Touch.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-01 Thread wonder boy
On 7.4.2 with 3 wifi players. Reasonably stable at the mo, though can't believe what the microwave does to the signal. I have found that increasing the minimum sync adjustment (as well as making sure all are the same which they weren't) and also the sync players start up delay has helped.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-01 Thread snarlydwarf
wonder boy;512693 Wrote: Annoyingly any rebuffering I get is intermittent, I think the neighbour must be hammering the microwave meals...HTH Many if not most 'baby monitors', cordless phones, 'tv extenders' and wireless alarm systems spew junk on 2.4Ghz. It's unlicensed because it is not

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-01 Thread bpa
This video indicates that some cars can be a source of Wifi interference. Not sure how valid the test is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0oF0eq6mPI -- bpa bpa's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-02-01 Thread Pascal Hibon
It’s true that some “alien devices” such as TV extenders etc use the 2.4GHz band as well. Especially the TV extenders can be a source for interference since they use directional antennas with relatively high gain. In most cases, it is possible to keep your home wireless network free from

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-01-31 Thread benthos
I'm using 7.4.1 on my Readynas Duo these days, and I've only had very isolated experiences with gappy playback or rebuffering errors lately. I think the playback may have broken up once, and that could've been wi-fi interference from the microwave or something. Granted, by posting this I'm

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2010-01-31 Thread Nonreality
I get 100% with my wireless all through the test range, so the network is not the problem with the buffering. It never ever happened until I went from 7.4.1 to7.4.2 and then I started having some problems. Only with flac and I was shocked at first because I had never experienced it before.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-11-04 Thread Andy Cudlip
my buffering problems started after I upgraded to 7.3.3 from 7.3.2. My library is mostly iTunes AAC format and they played fine (via a custom-convert) in 7.3.2 from my Linkstation Live (to a squeezebox classic, wireless strength around 70%). Only thing to have changed is the upgrade to 7.3.3.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-11-04 Thread Pascal Hibon
My rebuffering experience also started with 7.3.3. It went away when downgrading to 7.2.1 again. But on the support guys request I went back to 7.3.3 to capture log files. Since I enabled performance logging I never experienced a rebuffering no more. I went onto 7.4.1 and now on 7.4.2 and still

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-11-03 Thread alto63
I have found that rebuffering problem can be partly cured by setting up Artwork resizing instead of Artwork resampling in Squeezebox Server - Advanced - Performance tab. Also the Classic skin seems to be less demanding of bandwith than the Default skin. -- alto63 http://www.bartimexaudio.hu

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-10-31 Thread markchev
after reading this thread, i ran network test, which i hadn't done in a while. slow performance at the higher data rates. the little wall wart thingy i use to extend my wireless network needed to be reset. now, network test shows almost 100% avg on highest data rate. hadn't been listening to

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-10-31 Thread OutdoorXplorer
I never had another re-buffering experience since I replaced the Synology 207+ to 209+II. I guess the performance of the source is relatively important. I am now streaming via WiFi without any glitch... -- OutdoorXplorer 2TB Synology 209+II ~ SlimDevices SqueezeBox Classic ~ Zu ASH 75#937;

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-29 Thread symi
Hi Everyone, I don't know if this question was answered in a previous thread or post, I did run a search on the forum and came back with 0 results. I have a number of dvd-audio discs. I have ripped a few of them to my server but squeezebox (classic) won't play them back without rebuffering

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-29 Thread jimwillsher
Go into SqueezeCenter and view the Server Status page. On there it'll show you the wireless signal strength. A cabled solution will be 100Mb or 1000Mb, whereas wireless will be 54 Mb at best. if your signal strnegth is poor then you'll start hitting problems. I've got three SB3 players, all

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-29 Thread symi
Cheers Jim, I will have a look at that and thanks. I would like to be able to listen to everything in my collection thru the squeezebox its the best gadget in the world for music.. Symi -- symi symi's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-29 Thread aubuti
symi;462457 Wrote: Cheers Jim, I will have a look at that and thanks. I would like to be able to listen to everything in my collection thru the squeezebox its the best gadget in the world for music.. Symi Is there any reason why you are using wav instead of a compressed lossless codec

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-29 Thread symi
Hi Jim, The reason I ripped the files to wav rather than flac is because I was having trouble with the flac encoder.I think the version of flac that I was using was struggling with the long files. The rest of my music files are in flac format. And yes, the rebuffering only occurs with the

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-29 Thread Mnyb
symi;462751 Wrote: Hi Jim, The reason I ripped the files to wav rather than flac is because I was having trouble with the flac encoder.I think the version of flac that I was using was struggling with the long files. The rest of my music files are in flac format. And yes, the rebuffering

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-23 Thread OutdoorXplorer
I had the rebufferring issue since I received the SB3 months back. I just upgraded the Synology 207+ to 209+II and the issue was solved immediately. I am enjoying every pieces of the music collection I have in the NAS. No more worry of forwarding tracks -- OutdoorXplorer 2TB Synology

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-03 Thread mprocte1
In short ... my new router seems to have solved the problems ... or at least for the 4 hours of playback last night I didn't get any rebuffering. Decided to just switch off the old router and use the new router by itself, i.e. not having an independent wireless network for SC/SB. The misses

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Pascal Hibon
I would like to invite everyone who experiences rebuffering to visit the threads on the bug report found here: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092 We are in need of logs to determine the root cause of the issue. The more input we get, the faster we will see a resolution. --

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread mprocte1
Just an update on my testing last night ... Streaming FLAC to laptop over wireless playing with VLC did have a couple of buffering issues, but they were recovered quickly and with far fewer occurrences. With just the SB3 on the wireless network, playback was okay, but still with a few

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Pascal Hibon
mprocte1;454024 Wrote: Just an update on my testing last night ... Streaming FLAC to laptop over wireless playing with VLC did have a couple of buffering issues, but they were recovered quickly and with far fewer occurrences. With just the SB3 on the wireless network, playback was okay,

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread awy
mprocte1;454024 Wrote: Seems that I have a wireless bandwidth issue for sure, which I'm hoping the new router will resolve ... hopefully arriving today/tomorrow. Have you tried using different wireless channels? You could also use a tool like netstumbler to see what other networks you

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Mnyb
mprocte1;454024 Wrote: Just an update on my testing last night ... Streaming FLAC to laptop over wireless playing with VLC did have a couple of buffering issues, but they were recovered quickly and with far fewer occurrences. With just the SB3 on the wireless network, playback was okay,

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread awy
Pascal Hibon;454012 Wrote: I would like to invite everyone who experiences rebuffering to visit the threads on the bug report found here: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092 We are in need of logs to determine the root cause of the issue. The more input we get, the faster

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread mprocte1
Pascal Hibon;454053 Wrote: It would be very useful to provide some logs (as requested in the bug report) when running this test. Can you do that? As requested ... what logs do you need ... I've only had SC/SB for a couple of weeks so it's all new to me. awy;454055 Wrote: Have you tried

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread mprocte1
Mnyb;454060 Wrote: As soon as *other* equipment enter the wifi mix all bets are off. There is a finite bandwidth available if an wireless PC visit an website with lots of adds or is doing an upgrade, or running a torrent client ;) what do you expect ? How is music streaming going to react

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Swimmerbird123
My experience, in case it is useful: Running 7.3.2 on Linux server, wired to Zoom X6 gateway router (firmware 2.1.5 from 2007), wireless G to SB3, streaming flac and internet radio. After installing 7.3.2 back in March, things worked pretty well for a couple of months and then gradually

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Mnyb
Swimmerbird123;454065 Wrote: My experience, in case it is useful: Running 7.3.2 on Linux server, wired to Zoom X6 gateway router (firmware 2.1.5 from 2007), wireless G to SB3, streaming flac and internet radio. After installing 7.3.2 back in March, things worked pretty well for a couple

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Swimmerbird123
Thanks, I hadn't run the test, but it looks helpful. Now I get 100% on all rates except 5000, which jumps between 80% and 100%. This morning I am streaming a European radio station from here in the US with no problem, with wireless strength in the SB3 fluctuating between 38% and 46%. I haven't

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-02 Thread Pascal Hibon
mprocte1;454061 Wrote: As requested ... what logs do you need ... I've only had SC/SB for a couple of weeks so it's all new to me. The required logs are well documented in the bug report: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13092 Basically, a copy of your SqueezeCenter log and

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-01 Thread mprocte1
Listening to music (FLAC) over the weekend has been ruined by this 'rebuffering' issue. Tried a direct Ethernet cable, which seemed to resolve the issue, at least for the remaining hour of listening last night. Will test further tonight. I've had SB3's for just over 2 weeks now, so I'm running

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-09-01 Thread maggior
maggior;447280 Wrote: My plan of action: 1) I ordered a pair of homeplugs for the kitchen SBR - CAT-5 to the kitchen just isn't an option. I'm tired of having to screw around with the SBR when it gets scrambed by running the microwave. 2) I will run cat-5 to my SBR in the living room.

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-26 Thread HydeTheDarkerSide
dsdreamer;450785 Wrote: If you have any kind of PC or Mac that can play the same streams through the same network equipment as you are using for the Duet, then please check that these are not also stuttering/rebuffering as well. If you report reliable playback of these same streams in the

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-22 Thread Nonreality
really weird. I run my SC from the family computer and my son runs some heavy duty games while I'm playing music, both flac and mp3,and never have drop outs. I'm running the SB3 wireless and always think that maybe it will start dropping because off the games but it's always held strong. It

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-22 Thread HydeTheDarkerSide
Hi I'm having buffering problems with the UK wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk BBC radio streams, all my FLAC CD rips play just fine. My Duet Controller diagnostics reports everything is OK. This rebuffering is happening on all my players. My router is not showing any speed issues with my net connection

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-22 Thread dsdreamer
HydeTheDarkerSide;450682 Wrote: Hi I'm having buffering problems with the UK wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk BBC radio streams, all my FLAC CD rips play just fine. If you have any kind of PC or Mac that can play the same streams through the same network equipment as you are using for the Duet, then

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-22 Thread joz
I wonder when a fix is coming,it's been going on since my last firmware upgrade and I'm not game to try the most recent one because of what I the problems I inherited from 7.2. Anyhow as I write I have had no drop outs for a couple of hours,touch wood! But I must say it can be very embarrasing

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-21 Thread radish
Pascal Hibon;449381 Wrote: Since an Access Point is a bridge, it will bridge all cabled traffic to the wireless (and vice versa) putting a lot of load on the wireless network if the cabled network is busy. Which is why most consumer APs are fronted by a switch, to keep wired traffic off

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-21 Thread GregD
I think I can see a possible problem related to a low power server on an XP machine. I run a Via based server running XP. Storage is directly attached. By default SqueezeCenter runs as 'above normal priority' but mov123 and flac seem to run at normal priority (I most use ALAC, but reconfigure

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-20 Thread Bery
Pascal Hibon;449860 Wrote: Bery, can you try this on your DUO? Well, I did and moreless the same ( btw: top process consumes 5% CPU ). Mode Random Mix. At the very beginning mysqld uses as much CPU as possible to create a list of random songs. Following SC load approx. 60%. Then

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-20 Thread mobileadam
I too have had problems with sound drop outs and rebuffering on 7.3.3. I also experienced a problem with the music stopping completely and logging indicates something about multiple errors and then giving up (hence the music is stopped). I couldn't reproduce the problem on demand but it mainly

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-19 Thread Bery
Hi, I can also confirm dropouts in streaming after installing SC 7.3.3 on my ReadyNAS DUO ( 1 GB RAM ). In most cases happens with the first song and especially in Random Mix mode. Please, work on it :) -- Bery Bery's

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-19 Thread johndpar
Same here with Qnap TS209. Definitely something broken in 7.3.3. John -- johndpar johndpar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15581 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-19 Thread maggior
Pascal Hibon;449381 Wrote: This issue is not related to FLAC streaming only. I stream WAV and I also experienced the issue with 7.3.3. For now I went back to 7.2.1. and that works fine. I guess it is fair to say that the issue is more likely to occur when streaming larger audio formats

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-19 Thread johndpar
I should have said that in my case it is FLAC files streaming as FLAC to SBR which is wireless. I know the wifi link could be better so next try is some homeplug adaptors and if that still does not work it could be time to run a cable. Regards John -- johndpar

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-19 Thread Pascal Hibon
maggior;449806 Wrote: As far as I know, the default configuration of SC is to convert WAV files to FLAC prior to streaming. So, even though your source files are in WAV format, you are actually streaming FLAC over the network to your player. That is unless you've taken steps in the

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-19 Thread Pascal Hibon
Another update: I ran the linux top command with the –d1 option on my NV+ to update the display every second. Then I pressed FWD on the SB remote (to speed up the “beginning of next track” event). The highest CPU load I noticed was 97% during this test. Again, it varies for different songs. The

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-18 Thread awy
Here is a copy of a comment I posted in bug 13092: Bug 9517 meant that, prior to 7.3 (SB fw 117, TR fw 67, SBR fw 52, SBB fw 37), FLAC playback was almost incapable of generating the necessary underrun events to provoke rebuffering. There may have been gappy playback but no rebuffering

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
This issue is not related to FLAC streaming only. I stream WAV and I also experienced the issue with 7.3.3. For now I went back to 7.2.1. and that works fine. I guess it is fair to say that the issue is more likely to occur when streaming larger audio formats (lossless). I noticed that the

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-14 Thread Pascal Hibon
I also experience drop outs in my music with SC 7.3.3. It happens very sporadic. Usually it happens when I first start the music (most of the times I#8217;m using Random Song Mix). It also happens during playback at later instances. The issue doesn#8217;t show up very often but it is annoying

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-10 Thread maggior
dsdreamer;447284 Wrote: I suspect only a controlled experiment, with controlled amounts of network congestion/radio interference will be able to answer that one. I agree. This will be next to impossible for the average user to do at home. My wife wouldn't be too keen on having the

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-09 Thread maggior
I've been home a lot recently (kidney stones are so much fun!) and had an opportunity to spend a lot of time listening to my squeezeboxes. I have an SBR in my kitchen and in my living room (which shares a wall with the kitchen). This is what I've been using mostly all week to stream my FLAC

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-09 Thread dsdreamer
Improving the network seems necessary in your case, and I'm sure you'll see improvements from so doing. The jury remains out as to whether things have gotten worse due to some regression in the software or firmware that makes up the Squeezebox system. I suspect only a controlled experiment, with

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-09 Thread Mnyb
dsdreamer;447284 Wrote: Improving the network seems necessary in your case, and I'm sure you'll see improvements from so doing. The jury remains out as to whether things have gotten worse due to some regression in the software or firmware that makes up the Squeezebox system. I suspect

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-06 Thread dsdreamer
aubuti;445938 Wrote: What, you don't think they already do that? Of course they do. Comments like that, especially your header 'Works for me' is good enough, then? (which is exactly the opposite of what I said, btw) are decidedly unproductive. Sheesh. Aside from the fact that I've managed

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-06 Thread maggior
dsdreamer - I gave up and had to finally resort to Google to determine the source of you signature. It was driving me crazy because it sounded so familiar but I could NOT figure out where it was from: Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... As it turns out, it is from one of my

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-06 Thread dsdreamer
maggior;446250 Wrote: dsdreamer - I gave up and had to finally resort to Google to determine the source of you signature. It was driving me crazy because it sounded so familiar but I could NOT figure out where it was from: Dreamer, easy in the chair that really fits you... As it

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-06 Thread ziggyb63
Interesting. I started a thread here http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65801 basically about the same issue. I could have sworn my network was OK - PCs were working, game consoles ran internet games etc. Turned out for me it was one port on my gigabit switch that was failing

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-06 Thread maggior
dsdreamer;446270 Wrote: I happen to love that track as well, and for me that particular line describes the experience of taking time to really listen, along with Straight light searching all the meanings of the song. This must be from Jon's phase of putting words together just for how they

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-05 Thread funkstar
dsdreamer;445842 Wrote: Good points all. I would hope that Logitech QA could take some actions rather than leaving it to end users, though. Just because the Devs or Support are not active in this thread, does not mean it is completely overlooked. :) -- funkstar my collection: *1*x boom

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-05 Thread toby10
dsdreamer;445855 Wrote: QA also have the ability (if not the resources) to create a controlled, non-ideal network test environment to test performance under repeatable network congestion conditions. The trouble with distributed random testing in the user community is that it is not

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-05 Thread aubuti
dsdreamer;445855 Wrote: QA also have the ability (if not the resources) to create a controlled, non-ideal network test environment to test performance under repeatable network congestion conditions. The trouble with distributed random testing in the user community is that it is not

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread DigitalMitch
I've been suffering rebuffering for a while now, after a couple of years of stable performance, and I'm fed up so I'm trying to take action. I've ordered some more ethernet over power (Netgears HDX101) which successfully stream video to PS3 (which had been unstable over wi-fi), but until they

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread funkstar
DigitalMitch;445679 Wrote: Other than voting for the bug and implementing a ethernet over power, is there anything else I should be trying? Surely you have a friend that has either a laptop, USB/PCI wireless adapter, Smartphone with wifi, or some other device that you could use (invite them

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread Schindler
Hello I have a Transporter, a Classic and two Booms running different flac files over WiFi at the same time without any problem... Christian -- Schindler Schindler's Profile:

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread dsdreamer
Schindler;445739 Wrote: Hello I have a Transporter, a Classic and two Booms running different flac files over WiFi at the same time without any problem... Christian No one denies that this system -can- work very well, and probably in most installations it still does. But you don't even

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread aubuti
dsdreamer;445778 Wrote: STREAMING IN 7.3.X: A) Has been 100% reliable with all types of local music files in my system B) Required network upgrades since 7.3.x to become reliable C) Occasionally fails in 7.3.x with local FLAC files =500kbos D) Occasionally fails even with lossy compressed

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread dsdreamer
aubuti;445813 Wrote: I don't think it would be useful. First there's the obvious selection bias: people not having problems are unlikely to read the poll and much less likely to be in the forums in the first place. Second, what do you do with the results? From this thread I would predict

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread aubuti
dsdreamer;445842 Wrote: Good points all. I would hope that Logitech QA could take some actions rather than leaving it to end users, though. Agreed, but the usual rule applies: if they can't reproduce it, they can't fix it (unless they just get lucky with collateral improvement). There's an

Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience

2009-08-04 Thread dsdreamer
aubuti;445847 Wrote: Unless there's another bug report I've overlooked, that doesn't give QA much to go on. QA also have the ability (if not the resources) to create a controlled, non-ideal network test environment to test performance under repeatable network congestion conditions. The

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