[discuss] Re: Integrating Grammar Checker into OpenOffice

2007-05-25 Thread Rod Engelsman
jonathon wrote: drow wrote: I propose a joint development with abisource to create a standard Grammar Checker for the open source community. a) A grammar checking API within OOo is being developed. b) Roughly half a dozen grammar checkers for OOo are being developed. One size fits all does

[discuss] Re: Quirks in Open Office Spread Sheet

2007-05-01 Thread Rod Engelsman
Cor Nouws wrote: 2. Changing and existing Cell's Number Formatting to Text. Would be better if the result was that what ever was visible previously was now in the cell. e.g. if I have a date displayed in a cell, changing the format to Text results in a number in the cell, whilst for the

[discuss] Re: Styles Handling

2007-04-21 Thread Rod Engelsman
jonathon wrote: Chris Monahan wrote: Styles do lead something to be desired in OO... A style for tables is one of the missing features. More useful would be word styles. Not the technical or the logical aspect of it, just the interface is slightly broken The first step would be

[discuss] Re: Styles Handling

2007-04-21 Thread Rod Engelsman
Johnny Andersson wrote: So yes, I use styles all the time and I just love it, but there are a lot of things about them to improve. However, just a few improvements (the most important ones) would probably mean a huge improvement to the intuitiveness of the product. I, too, use styles

[discuss] Re: Styles Handling

2007-04-21 Thread Rod Engelsman
André Wyrwa wrote: Hei, I would treat character styling as a resource or reference style that would be chosen to apply to higher levels. IOW, instead of directly specifying character properties in the paragraph style you would choose the character style (primarily font and size) that you

[discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-14 Thread Rod Engelsman
Mathias Bauer wrote: We are indeed supporting the Lightning project. Once this will have reached a final state we can work on possible integrations between Thunderbird/Lightning and OOo. As both projects (OOo and Mozilla) have suitable technologies and we are able to bridge between them I'm

[discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-10 Thread Rod Engelsman
Mathias Bauer wrote: jonathon wrote: The original code for OOo included a PIM. A PIM was available as an add on for OOo 1.0. Really? Not if an add on is more than just another application that you can install beneath OOo or a playground for some interested developers. Or what are you talking

[discuss] Re: Microsoft Office 2007

2007-04-09 Thread Rod Engelsman
jonathon wrote: Chad Smith wrote: *PRE-2.0 We don't need a database program! It's useless bloat that takes away choice from the end user! Considering that OOo 1.0.x and above contained a databse, adding a second one can be equated to adding bloat to the program. If you mean the built-in,

[discuss] Re: extract font of document

2007-03-25 Thread Rod Engelsman
Fabian Braennstroem wrote: Hi, I would like to extract a certain font from a word document, which I read and edit in openoffice 2. I would like to put the font into my user config directory on a linux machine... Is this somehow possible? Greetings! Fabian No. Fonts are installed on a

[discuss] Re: Requested addition

2007-03-23 Thread Rod Engelsman
André Wyrwa wrote: Hi, Since I have been forced to use Exchange server, my productivity had taken a nose dive. such as? This is a serious question. I strongly believe that OOo can be more tightly integrated with Mozilla products. Given the both have quite good extension APIs I even doubt

[discuss] Re: OpenDocument Format = ISO 26300

2006-05-03 Thread Rod Engelsman
Christian Einfeldtextra wrote: Although there are a few procedural red-tape type things left to do - OpenDocument is guarteeneed ISO standard status as ISO 26300. This likely means Microsoft's so-called Open XML format will be rejected. This is huge news for open standards and for anyone who

[discuss] Re: Funding for Evolution Win32 Installer

2006-05-02 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: I take your point that you don't like my attitude towards those in question. Fair enough. Similarly, I don't like the attitudes of those who choose to use OpenOffice not because it's open-source, but because they don't have to pay for it, and then have the audacity

[discuss] Re: Funding for Evolution Win32 Installer

2006-05-02 Thread Rod Engelsman
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Open-source is an industry when there are people paid to participate in the process, including people paid to listen to user tantrums. It's my understanding that the vast majority, like 90+%, of the programming effort for OOo is performed by paid employees of

[discuss] Re: Mail Client

2006-04-30 Thread Rod Engelsman
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le samedi 29 avril 2006 à 18:29 -0500, Rod Engelsman a écrit : Having said that, though, I disagree with the characterization that this would be creating this whole thing from scratch. One of the beauties of OOo is the code reuse, and a whole lot of the pieces to a PIM

[discuss] Re: Mail Client

2006-04-30 Thread Rod Engelsman
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le dimanche 30 avril 2006 à 10:08 -0500, Rod Engelsman a écrit : All I'm saying is that a lot of the pieces for this thing already exist in the OOo code base. In fact, you could prototype a fair amount of this thing right now just using macros. Heck, OOo even already

[discuss] Re: Mail Client

2006-04-29 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:26:42 -0400, Cor Nouws [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandro Colorado wrote: Except when they do the 'inform' every other hour. And any answer that you give them is not good enough. Then it becomes a liability. I suspect they ask their

[discuss] Re: Mail Client !!!

2006-04-27 Thread Rod Engelsman
Daniel Kasak wrote: I still haven't heard a convincing argument as to why anyone needs an email client integrated into OpenOffice. Why is it so much easier to send an email when the window title says OpenOffice instead of Evolution. First, you're setting up a strawman by focusing on only

[discuss] Re: Mail Client !!!

2006-04-27 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 23:56:03 -0400, jonathon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For my part, I am getting ready to install NetBSD, and use SendMail as my email client. [At least that program knows how to deal with 10 000 messages per day,] huh? I am confused, I thought

[discuss] Re: Mail Client !!!

2006-04-27 Thread Rod Engelsman
Michael Adams wrote: I've watched this whole thing go round and round in circles. I agree with Daniel that OO.o doesn't need a mail client. I am not too sure about Evolution though. I think what is needed is good communication lines with the Gecko/Thunderbird/Sunbird developers. So that the

[discuss] Re: PDF Read Write?

2006-04-27 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:12:23 -0400, Alexandro Colorado [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 10:42:43 -0400, Robert M. Yannetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenOffice.org is a great product to export documents to PDF, but why doesn't the product open PDFs for

[discuss] Re: Mail Client !!!

2006-04-26 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: Like I said before this is FLOSS and if you have an itch, you are welcome to scratch it, but is really annoying when you want other people to scratch it for you at least when you get an answer and you keep pointing out why u have that itch. The problem is that

[discuss] Re: Shortcut keys

2006-04-22 Thread Rod Engelsman
RBL wrote: Greg Brandon wrote: Hi, I'm a former excel user exploring Calc, and I'm used to using the CTRL-1 key combination (it may not be well-known) in Excel to bring up the Cell Formatting window, since I tend to use it a lot. Having this shortcut key in Calc would be really good for

[discuss] Re: Yet another PIM application for your window desktop

2006-04-14 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: A few days ago someone esle ranted about OOo not having a PIM app, browsing the web I found yet another PIM application for Linux/Windows/MacOSX. At the risk of starting another interminable discussion on this topic, I have to object to this characterization of a

[discuss] Re: Who would have thought... MS doesn't want you to buy a PC without an OS.

2006-04-05 Thread Rod Engelsman
Chad Smith wrote: It seems that Microsoft is concerned for computer white box makers income. They are on a campaign to convince the PC makers of the UK that selling a naked box or a computer without an operating system is not in their best interest financially. According to Microsoft, the

[discuss] Re: Before I will report a bug ...

2006-04-03 Thread Rod Engelsman
Tomas Lanczos wrote: Hello everybody, From the Open Office package I am using mostly the Impress together with the Math to prepare my lectures - it is much better for scientific presentations as the Power Point. The Math is very nice for mathematical expressions, but it's less appropriate to

[discuss] Re: Impress with decision making

2006-04-01 Thread Rod Engelsman
Reply is CC'd to non-subscribed OP Darrell Feebeck wrote: As a teacher, I like to create interactive presentations and tutorials for my students. Usually, I use Flash because MS PowerPoint doesn't have the functionality for rudimentary decision making. Unfortuantely, for most instructors

[discuss] Re: OPENOFFICE CALC

2006-03-21 Thread Rod Engelsman
Daniel Carrera wrote: Liberty wrote: Every Calculator, Spreadsheet, Compiler, and Interperter, that I've seen defines 0^0 as 1. If Calc handles it differently than other programs it could cause compatabilty issues. Compatibility is a fair argument. The first calculator I tried (the one

[discuss] Re: Google Acquires Writerly

2006-03-17 Thread Rod Engelsman
Jonathon Blake wrote: Chad wrote: I marginallized his pet project of ODF What you fail to understand is that Microsoft has lost: i) The office suite war; This war won't even seriously begin until the open-source crowd *seriously* takes on Outlook on the Windows platform. ii) The server

[discuss] Re: supporting Engineering Notation in Calc (was: Upping a Priority )

2006-03-17 Thread Rod Engelsman
Andrew Robertson wrote: Have that large community of users vote for it; this should raise the priority. :) Not really. You can easily find issues that are years old with dozens of votes. I'm not sure how priorities are actually set, but votes is at best a minor factor. -- Rod

[discuss] Re: Will Calc Match This?

2006-03-12 Thread Rod Engelsman
Jonathon Blake wrote: Dave wrote: 1 million rows and up to 16 000 columns A fully populated worksheet of that size would require 96 768 GB RAM, just to load. That comes out to 6,048 bytes per cell. I'm not arguing the point, but I'm just curious where you got that number. 1. Assuming

[discuss] Re: $127,000 to make OOo the best Suite out there?

2006-03-10 Thread Rod Engelsman
Alexandro Colorado wrote: How much will it cost to build a PIM for OOo, to be able to connect with the most popular webservices, and also to have the level of integration and put OpenDocuments and make Online OpenDocuments and live documents through webservices. How many work hours from a

[discuss] Re: Digg Story: More Evidence That Google Is Buying Sun?

2006-03-10 Thread Rod Engelsman
Daniel Carrera wrote: Neither Sun nor Google have enough money to buy the other. The two companies have similar revenue ($11b for Sun, $6b for Google). I have no idea if this is true or not of course, but the revenue comparison is totally irrelevant. The more relevant numbers are market

[discuss] Re: Microsoft Office's latest plug-in - your phone calls

2006-03-06 Thread Rod Engelsman
Chad Smith wrote: What do you all think - useless bloat, a new way for MS to acheive vendor-lock-in, a valuable feature, or what? Useless bloat vs. valuable feature? For any individual I suppose any advanced feature falls into one or the other of these two categories. Depends a lot on

[discuss] Re: Why do you force me to use M$ Excel???

2006-03-04 Thread Rod Engelsman
Peter Kupfer OOo wrote: Actually, OOo offers a more powerful feature (in some ways) that lets you find the equation of a line without making a chart and makes it easy to use the slope and intercept in further calculations. Look in the the linest function. It returns the slope of a linear

[discuss] Re: Why do you force me to use M$ Excel???

2006-03-01 Thread Rod Engelsman
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: He has two choices, he can implement it himself (it's open source) or he can submit an official feature request and let the community vote for it (a high vote count can be a good indicator for a fast implementation) and when somebody else volunteer to implement it the

[discuss] Re: Why do you force me to use M$ Excel???

2006-03-01 Thread Rod Engelsman
Rigel wrote: charting component? Rigel Yeah. Check it out here: http://graphics.openoffice.org/chart/chart.html I didn't find much in the way of a time line or anything else that would indicate when we could expect this, but my impression is that some new charting features should be

[discuss] Re: Web Office Suite: best of breed products

2006-02-23 Thread Rod Engelsman
Daniel Carrera daniel.carrera at zmsl.com writes: I think you are thinking on a service like Writely, while I am talking about a web app like EyeOS or PHP-Nuke where you can install on your intranet and provide it for your company from your local server. Ok. If it's installed in

Re: [discuss] Help for calc

2006-02-20 Thread Rod Engelsman
No, Donald, don't do that. It's not necessary. The missing help files for Calc are a known issue with that release and will be fixed in the next release (hopefully in a few days). -- Rod Ray wrote: Donald, I would suggest you uninstall the OOo from your computer, deleting and folders

[discuss] Re: Email vital for Desktop Linux adoption, prime role available for OOo

2005-12-03 Thread Rod Engelsman
Ian Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2005-12-02 at 09:25 -0600, Randomthots wrote: The problem is I don't know a good name for the category of sw that's a calendar/pim/email such as Outlook or the old Lotus Organizer. There are apps that work to do the same job. They just don't happen to be all

[discuss] Re: publisher

2005-04-08 Thread Rod Engelsman
Ian Lynch wrote: On Fri, 2005-04-08 at 22:44, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Well publisher is a dtp joke actually. I wasn't writing let's do publisher but let's add a serious dtp mode to oo.o It'll have to get in the queue behind a lot of other rfes unless you know a source to fund the development.

[discuss] Re: publisher

2005-04-08 Thread Rod Engelsman
Sorry about the double-post, I hit Send prematurely. Ian Lynch wrote: Both are significantly worse in that respect than Impression Publisher on the Acorn RISC OS platform in the early 90s. Impression Publisher could be used quite happily for both word processing and DTP on a 25 MHz machine with 4

[discuss] Re: Flickering icons

2005-04-05 Thread Rod Engelsman
Rich wrote: hmm, interesting. i'm experiencing the same problem - but only with gtk widgets. with generic widgets everything was fine. if possible, can you try the same combination of video drivers and kde with gtk and generic widgets to see wether this is reproducible with one or both sets of

[discuss] Re: Flickering icons

2005-04-05 Thread Rod Engelsman
Rich wrote: oh, this actually is directly dependant on oo.org :) (actually just recently, when native widget support was introduced, Joost Andrae kindly informed me on discuss list how i could force use of generic widgets) so, to run with generic widgets you should run this in konsole (you're

[discuss] Re: Flickering icons

2005-04-04 Thread Rod Engelsman
Rod Engelsman wrote: Group, I have recently played with the 1.9.79 and now the 1.9.87 releases. I've noticed something (actually it's very hard *not* to notice) that I would like to pin down. When I pass the mouse over the icons in the toolbar and over buttons in dialogs, the icons

[discuss] Re: No-break

2005-04-02 Thread Rod Engelsman
John W. Kennedy wrote: Just as with quotation marks, Unicode is trying to undo confusion introduced by cost-saving measures applied to Victorian typewriters. (I have seen people -- usually in their late 50's or older -- who will, if not stopped, use lower-case L instead of the digit one and

[discuss] Re: No more file association to MSO when installing

2005-04-01 Thread Rod Engelsman
Ric Hayman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Carrera wrote: | Rod Engelsman wrote: | | |This has been an issue for a *l* time, Daniel. | | | My understanding is that the UI has already changed, and now, weeks before the | final release, there is a suggestion

[discuss] Re: No more file association to MSO when installing

2005-03-30 Thread Rod Engelsman
Daniel Carrera wrote: Tony Pursell wrote: I thought more was going to be done to avoid it and I am amazed that we still have a setup dialog that virtually invites people to do what they don't really want to do But why didn't you say this before the UI freeze? I saw the OOo snapshot before the

[discuss] Re: No-break

2005-03-30 Thread Rod Engelsman
John W. Kennedy wrote: Why, o why, o why, o why, o WHY can we not have a simple do not break character attribute? I'm working right now on transcribing an 18th-century document full of Mr. Sh and the like (actually, that's two em dashes), and I can find absolutely no way to prevent

[discuss] Re: Java fallout: OO.o 2.0 and the FOSS community

2005-03-30 Thread Rod Engelsman
You know, this sort of thing crops up again and again... A mother buys an ice cream sundae. It has chocolate sauce and whipped cream on it. Yummy! Hands it to her little boy, who looks at it and screams, What's the matter b, no cherry!!? Here we have a corporation that acquires a major

[discuss] Re: Flickering icons

2005-03-26 Thread Rod Engelsman
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[discuss] Re: Telling the user what gets lost

2005-03-22 Thread Rod Engelsman
Jonathon Blake wrote: And who is going to document the things that are lost for each version of Word, RTF, etc? I would imagine the engineers that built the filters would know what works and what doesn't. Unless they don't test their product. That and user feedback in IZ. Rod

[discuss] Re: MSN Producer like program in OO Impress's future

2005-03-18 Thread Rod Engelsman
Nicu Buculei wrote: I don't think we should care about anything else beyond free formats - Ogg Vorbis and perhaps uncompressed Wav You know what I care about right now? Producing a 25 to 45 minute presentation in Powerpoint format with voice-over. Personally, I could give a flying fig whether

[discuss] Re: 3D/4D with Base, or is there something else?

2005-03-12 Thread Rod Engelsman
Jacob, First of all, I want to say, Damn you!. I was just about ready to turn in for the night when I read your post. Now you got me thinking and I'm going to be up later than I wanted. :) My suggestion: If you want 6 dimensions, you should have 7 tables. One each that is a simple list

[discuss] Re: MSN Hotmail blocking OOo attachments Misspelling: opemoffice.org takes you to site selling MS Office

2005-02-27 Thread Rod Engelsman
Juan Carlos Avila wrote: This is Norman and I can imagine the frustration you are having while continuing to experience issues on virus warning. I know how important it is to have your concern addressed immediately and we thank you for taking the time to report this to us. Your feedback is of

[discuss] Re: Less is more/Less is a bore: Organizing Templates dialog

2005-02-25 Thread Rod Engelsman
Ralph Aichinger wrote: Can anybody tell me, if in the following screenshots the marked menu is really necessary? Some dialogs are in German, but I think everybody gets the idea: http://www.pangea.at/~ralph/dialogderhoelle/ What I want to say is the following: The topmost configuration does not

[discuss] Re: OOo Install Program Text

2005-02-10 Thread Rod Engelsman
Mathias Bauer wrote: Maybe we are talking about different things here. I'm not against changing the text of a dialog if it is not understandable (though I still doubt that this is the case here, I can't see that the instructions are broken). But explaining to the user what checking and unchecking

[discuss] Re: [Fwd: Autoreply to ***SPAM*** Re: [discuss] Suggestion regarding splash image]

2005-02-05 Thread Rod Engelsman
Peter Kupfer wrote: Christian Einfeldt wrote: On Saturday 05 February 2005 12:46, Peter Kupfer wrote: Is this real? IMHO, no, it is phishing. I sent like 10 messages to the discuss and got one of these. I didn't cc anyone or anything else. I am subscribed to the list, and my post made it

[discuss] Re: missing feature and function

2005-01-30 Thread Rod Engelsman
Peter Kupfer wrote: Rod Engelsman wrote: FYI, the Mozilla folks have another project in the works called Lightening which is supposed to tightly integrate the Sunbird calendar/task manager into Thunderbird. It's presently at the pre-Alpha stage (working up the program specs, etc