Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread K9ZTV
Panadapters are helpful but not essential for CW traffic work. The procedure for the better part of a hundred years has been ... (1) The receiving station always goes to the frequency directed by the NCS or beyond if the directed frequency is busy. (2) Once the receiving station (not the sen

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
The P3 is quite useful to an NTS NCS. I just called the Carolinas Net (CN) and was very pleased to see where I could send folks down 2 (while I had folks up 2). Things have got much more difficult with the digital modes! Tom W4KX Sent from my iPad > On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:07 PM, Wayne Burdick

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
I eavesdrop on the 80 m traffic nets occasionally. Impressive level of efficiency and skill among the ops. Who knew there were so many Q-codes :) Wayne N6KR > On Jun 11, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Tom Doligalski wrote: > > Hi Wayne! > > I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
Hi Wayne! I had faith that the excellent qsk in the K3 would carry over to the K4. Thanks so much! I can easily recognize other rigs in cw nets. 50 years of cw traffic! Tom W4KX Sent from my iPad > On Jun 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > On the K4, with full Q

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Tom, On the K4, with full QSK selected, you can hear between dots at 40 WPM. There's no need for a "QRQ" mode, as on the K3, because the K4 doesn't have to update a synth between TX and RX. Wayne N6KR > On Jun 11, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft > wrote: > > I still do CW

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
I still do CW traffic handling, qsk is really important to me. That’s the reason I plunked down m money for the K4. Tom W4KX Sent from my iPad > On Jun 11, 2020, at 1:56 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > > Not being a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, well, > just ver

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Not being  a high speed CW op nor a contest CW op, I find that QSK is, well, just very nice.   I don't need to hear between the CW elements, nor even the letters, but more so in between the words.   Some ops have  a clean fist but run all the words together.  No spaces.  Drives me nuts. Itwould

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-11 Thread Al Lorona
I have always felt as K9ZTV does. I don't mean to speak heresy here, and I would never deny anybody's right to use full QSK, such as when chasing DX. However, I have never felt the need to hear between dits. Between characters or words seems more than enough for me, especially at the CW speeds

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-02 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Well, that is probably how Elecraft came up with the published spec of 8 ms. But since what I'm concerned with is preventing hot-switching, my number is more useful. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 02/06/2020 19:39, Al Lorona wrote: Re

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-02 Thread Al Lorona
Really interesting, Vic. Here's a minor point: Instead of measuring to the "first whiff" of RF, I'd probably measure to the point of 90% of max RF value. This is because the rise time of a pulse is usually defined as the time to go from 10% to 90% of the final (peak) value.  Congratulations on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-02 Thread Andy Durbin
"In short, hearing between elements gave us bragging fodder but served no real practical purpose. " My interest was from an engineering perspective. I found that, at typical contest and DX chasing speeds, the TS-590S BDLY-FBK (full break-in) setting offered no operational advantage. I chose t

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-02 Thread K9ZTV
For any practical purpose needed by amateur radio operators that I can think of, the ability to hear between elements is not a life-and-death virtue. The ability to hear between characters is by far magical enough. I speak as one who has been doing 30 wpm full-QSK traffic work for 60 years,

[Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-02 Thread Andy Durbin
"So here is what I determined: with 35 wpm dits (or dahs, it doesn't matter) from the internal keyer in Full QSK mode, CONFIG TX DLY = 8 (normal), there is a minimum of 5.6 ms between KEY OUT low and the first whiff of RF. I say minimum, because there is a certain amount of jitter in the length

[Elecraft] K3 QSK Timing

2020-06-02 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
I have finally achieved one of my life goals and am the owner of a real digital oscilloscope (Siglent SDS1202X-E). What is great about this compared to my prior life with super-cheap n-hand scopes is that it can actually measure things. So the first job I gave it was to measure the time betwee

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-09 Thread ok1rp
Hi Wayne and others, so after testing it I have to report that it is the same in both modes...standard QSK as same as in QRQ mode. It is occasional issue but it is repeatable. It is noticeable even with ATU bypassed, AGC THR 008... both QSK modes, quiet band... 73 - Petr, OK1RP - http://ok

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-07 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hi Wayne, Many thanks! The ATU switching is not the case probably because my ATU was bypassed... I will try to check what will be changed when old/new QSK is used. I will report the results. Best regards, 73 - Petr, OK1RP On Sat, Nov 7, 2015, at 02:04 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > We're talking

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Vic Rosenthal
I tried to hear this and didn't succeed. And I'm the world's most finicky QSK user. Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO > On 7 Nov 2015, at 3:04 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > We're talking about two different things. > > What OK1RP may be hearing is the ATU switching its relays when he first > transmits in a ba

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
We're talking about two different things. What OK1RP may be hearing is the ATU switching its relays when he first transmits in a band segment that requires new LC settings. The firmware attempts to do that between CW elements (in RX mode). This should be extremely rare. (If it's happening more

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread ok1rp
Hi, It happends even when K3 is keying from it´s memory. So paddle or ext. bug is not an issue. 73 - Petr, OK1RP - http://ok1rp.blogspot.com -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-QSK-CW-receive-audio-dropouts-tp7610047p7610060.html Sent from the Elecraf

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Steve Ellington
Depends on the bug. With my McElroy stream I had to add a 1uf capacitor in parallel with it. After reducing the dit gap to compensate to the keying, it sounds great. On my Vibroplex Presentation, no capacitor is needed and keying is perfect. I noticed the same thing on my old K3 and a few other rig

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Steve, I believe anything else you are hearing is something else. This issue is strictly on 12M, 10M and 6M. Even noticed on 10M and 6M AM with the artifact being a momentary carrier collapse. It's fast, about 10 milliseconds and does occur every 15 seconds. I tried a bug with my K3S and did

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
That particular audio dropout that I described will only happen on 12, 10 and 6 meters. If something similar is heard on other bands, look for some other cause. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/6/2015 3:06 PM, Steve Ellington wrote: K3SQSK on any band, CW...I hear an occasional clunk or pop but only wh

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Steve Ellington
> -Original Message- > From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > ok1rp > Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:05 > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts > > Hi all, > > few days ago I realized on K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Jim - N4ST
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:05 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts Hi all, few days ago I realized on K3 (using latest MCU/FPF) weird receive audio dropout problem. It happends during QSK CW operation and it is hearable in audio in between TX periods &g

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Petr, Yes, Wayne' explanation was that the PA Temp is sampled between characters in CW, so if one uses QSK and listens closely, you can hear the gaps in the audio when the K3 returns to receive. You may find a change in a firmware upgrade coming soon, but I don't know when. 73, Don W3FPR

[Elecraft] K3 QSK CW Audio Dropouts

2015-11-06 Thread ok1rp
Hi all, few days ago I realized on K3 (using latest MCU/FPF) weird receive audio dropout problem. It happends during QSK CW operation and it is hearable in audio in between TX periods > time to time but it is repeatable. I did not heard these dropouts during receiving only mode... Simply when I am

[Elecraft] K3 QSK - not so good?

2011-06-20 Thread Graham Kimbell G3TCT
OK, I'll put my head in the lion's mouth. I'm using qsk on cw and I find that if the rf gain is turned up to hear some background noise, there's a transient or click when the rig switches to rx (but not when it switches from rx to tx). To hear this really badly, try opening the cw b/w up to 2k

[Elecraft] K3/QSK Master/Microkeyer II

2010-07-12 Thread Ed G
Hi Folks, Anyone else using this combination: K3, QSK Master, Microkeyer II? Please contact me offline (I have a couple setup questions); thanks. --Ed-- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecra

Re: [Elecraft] K3 & QSK

2010-06-28 Thread Mike
Thanks, Brett. Mike Brett Howard wrote: > Yes this is correct as long as PTT is applied you won't switch back into > RX mode between elements. Its working on VOX is how things should go! > > ~Brett (N7MG) > > On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 13:22 -0400, Mike wrote: > >> When I send CW from the computer

Re: [Elecraft] K3 & QSK

2010-06-28 Thread Brett Howard
Yes this is correct as long as PTT is applied you won't switch back into RX mode between elements. Its working on VOX is how things should go! ~Brett (N7MG) On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 13:22 -0400, Mike wrote: > When I send CW from the computer, I don't hear anything until the string > of characters

[Elecraft] K3 & QSK

2010-06-28 Thread Mike
When I send CW from the computer, I don't hear anything until the string of characters is finished. I think that's due to my closing the PTT by turning on DTR at the beginning and turning it off at the end, ie. DTR on, send NF4L, DTR off. Am I correct? Seems to work with VOX tho. 73, Mike NF4

[Elecraft] K3 QSK thumps

2010-05-01 Thread eric manning
Thanks to everyone for suggestions. Turning up the sidetone level helped. NB and power level didn't affect it at all as far as I could see. eric VA7DZ K3 3620 + ICOM 500w amp [with external ALC connected] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK-5 connection

2009-11-29 Thread Luis V. Romero
hil's board as well. -lu-w4lt- K3 #3192 Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:26:30 -0800 (PST) From: WILLIS COOKE Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK-5 connection To: Grant Youngman ,Elecraft Reflector Message-ID: <323364.44966...@web80507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; ch

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK-5 connection

2009-11-28 Thread WILLIS COOKE
n the June 2009 QST for more info, but don't rely on QST for the pin out on the relays.  Willis 'Cookie' Cooke K5EWJ From: Grant Youngman To: Reflector Elecraft Sent: Sat, November 28, 2009 2:13:45 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK-5 connecti

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK-5 connection

2009-11-28 Thread Grant Youngman
On Nov 28, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Eric wrote: > > The qsk-5 works great with the k3--silent, smooth QRO QSK. I use it with my > AL-1200. > I understand why many use the QSK-5 -- since it is amp independent. If you're using an Ameritron amp, the internal switch (QSK-5PC) is just a lot cleaner an

[Elecraft] K3 QSK-5 connection

2009-11-28 Thread Eric
Chuck, I use the key 2 line, key1 is jumpered to aux. I put a steering diode inside the qsk-5 as well, but I don't remember where! I suggest you call or email Ameritron--they'll tell you how to do it. The qsk-5 manual is confusing. 8ms delay works fine. One other warning--if you are using a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Steve N4LQ wrote: ...You could tune in a steady carrier, key the rig with dits at 60 WPM and actually hear a tone. It was awesome BUT the 706 was chopping the dits down to almost nothing and leaving a nice, wide window between them so we could hear the carrier... -

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-27 Thread Steve Ellington
tion. For those folks, just use slow VOX and keep your monologs short lest the guy on the other end fades away or falls to sleep :*) Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Ron NA9F" To: Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-27 Thread Ron NA9F
Merv, After reading your post I played with the K3 more and I think you are right about it being an impression of thumps. To me it is high band noise on 40 and 80 m. I went up to the higher bands where there is very little band noise and do not hear the thumping. I also switched back to the low b

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-26 Thread Merv Schweigert
Correct Ron, and I hear none of the low freq thumping. As I mentioned I dont usually hear anything at all running the AF/RF as I described in normal operation. I have no problems, but I can duplicate the problem others are having with the RF gain wide open. Merv KH7C > Merv, KH7C wrote: > > I p

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-26 Thread David Gilbert
With all the discussion about what may or may not be a "thump" and what it actually sounds like, I'm a bit surprised nobody has bothered to post a simple recording of it so that the rest of us don't have to guess at what you're hearing. Dave AB7E Merv Schweigert wrote: > I posted that I c

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Merv, KH7C wrote: I posted that I could not duplicate the thumps on #2603. After trying a few more times I am hearing exactly what Mike describes, and after talking with Toby, it may be a difference in terminology, at least on my part. I hear the same thing but I describe it as pops or clicks,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-26 Thread Steve Ellington
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK >I posted that I could not duplicate the thumps on #2603. After trying a > few more times > I am hearing exactly what Mike describes, and after talking with Toby, > it may be a > difference in terminology, at least

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-26 Thread Merv Schweigert
I posted that I could not duplicate the thumps on #2603. After trying a few more times I am hearing exactly what Mike describes, and after talking with Toby, it may be a difference in terminology, at least on my part. I hear the same thing but I describe it as pops or clicks, and as Mike says

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-26 Thread Mike Scott
I can duplicate what might be called QSK thumps with high volume settings and using earphones or speakers. I have the choke change but have not modified low frequency response with larger caps. I think the thumps come on key up not key down. Everything is fine when I have the volume set at a normal

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Ellington
6:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK > > Hello Steve, > > You are just like I am when it comes to RF and AF settings. I only worked > to find why Toby was hearing the thumping and ran across this. With our > settings we will never hear it but if someone runs the RF gain

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Frank Ross W4NHJ
noticable. It appears this problem may only exist in newer K3s. MY SN; 3121. Frank - W4NHJ - Original Message - From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" To: Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK >I sat down in TEST mode and tried all the combinations you men

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I sat down in TEST mode and tried all the combinations you mentioned again and can't produce thumps. I even tried every possible combination of AF/RF and MON levels with no thump. So I'm sri to say obviously something is different between our rigs and setups, but I can't imagine what. The only

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Ron NA9F
wide open. Ron NA9F - Original Message - From: Steve Ellington (via Nabble) To: Ron NA9F Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Ron Are you serious about the AF gain at 12 o'clock? No wonder you hear thumps! Mine is just barely cracked

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Ron NA9F
: Bill W4ZV (via Nabble) To: Ron NA9F Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Ron NA9F wrote: See if you can duplicate this: 80M or 40M CW mode QSK AF GAIN ON HI or LOW RF gain at about 3 o'clock to full open (cloc

[Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Toby Pennington
Merv wrote..<<< RF also about 12 Merv, turn the RF gain all the way to the right, and try again. Try it on a quiet band first. Toby W4CAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread N2TK
y, June 25, 2009 3:30 PM To: 'N2TK'; 'Toby Pennington'; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 QSK I can't duplicate it here at any combination of settings. So something's different about or K3s. Mine is "stock" Elecraft. Have you made a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread N2TK
mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Planisky Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:29 PM To: Toby Pennington Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK Does turning off AGC have any effect on the thumping? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Toby Pennington wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Merv Schweigert
I also cannot duplicate this on #2603, I run the audio at 12 all the time, if I set it at 9 or below I have almost no audio out. I use amplified speakers. Audio at 12, RF also about 12. The monitor at 50, no thumps. monitor at 12 no thumps, the background atmospheric noise is louder than the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I can't duplicate it here at any combination of settings. So something's different about or K3s. Mine is "stock" Elecraft. Have you made any of the mods being suggested to increase the low-frequency audio response (bigger coupling caps, etc.?) Ron AC7AC -Original Message- Toby, You ar

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Joe Planisky
Does turning off AGC have any effect on the thumping? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Toby Pennington wrote: > NO, this is not what is going on. If the sidetone monitor is > turned up to a good fairly loud position, you will not hear the > thumping. IF it is turned to what

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread N2TK
-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Toby Pennington Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:27 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK NO, this is not what is going on. If the sidetone monitor is turned up to a good fairly loud position

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Ellington
What exactly kind, model of speaker are you using? Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Toby Pennington" To: Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:27 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK > NO, this is not what is going on. If the sidetone monitor is turned up

[Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Toby Pennington
NO, this is not what is going on. If the sidetone monitor is turned up to a good fairly loud position, you will not hear the thumping. IF it is turned to what I would call a comfortable level for my ears, then the thumping occurs. It is not dependent on AF gain being set excessively high,

[Elecraft] K3 QSK & Thumps

2009-06-25 Thread Ken Kopp
Wow! As others have noted that's a --really-- high audio level! Could something be wrong ... shorted speaker cable or even a defective speaker? It isn't a case of the infamous mono plug into the stereo speaker jack, is it? 73! Ken K0PP _

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Steve Ellington
: Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK > > > Steve, > > Here is what I found out and have reported the thumping. Was told it would > be fixed. > You can still use full QSK by following turning down the AF or RF gain > some. > Ref the >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Bill W4ZV
Ron NA9F wrote: > > See if you can duplicate this: > > 80M or 40M > CW mode > QSK > AF GAIN ON HI or LOW > RF gain at about 3 o'clock to full open (clockwise). > AF gain knob at 3 o'clock or above. > Transmit either on air or TX Test mode. > > You will hear the thumping sound? Now turn down A

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-25 Thread Ron NA9F
Steve, Here is what I found out and have reported the thumping. Was told it would be fixed. You can still use full QSK by following turning down the AF or RF gain some. Ref the following. It is a copy of what I reported to Elecraft. I finally figured out the thumping noise we heard while in QS

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Steve Ellington
24, 2009 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK > Steve, My unit is 2165 all hardware mods done, rig is loaded with > everything possible. > > Roofing filters are 2.8khz, 400hz and 250hz. No audio mods done to my > knowledge. > > My hearing is sensitive so try to keep the s

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Dave, W8OV
Toby Pennington wrote: > Steve, My unit is 2165 all hardware mods done, rig is loaded with > everything possible. > > Roofing filters are 2.8khz, 400hz and 250hz. No audio mods done to my > knowledge. > > My hearing is sensitive so try to keep the sidetone monitor set fairly low. > I f

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Toby Pennington
Steve, My unit is 2165 all hardware mods done, rig is loaded with everything possible. Roofing filters are 2.8khz, 400hz and 250hz. No audio mods done to my knowledge. My hearing is sensitive so try to keep the sidetone monitor set fairly low. I first noticed this anomoly when I was co

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Steve Ellington
t; To: Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 9:20 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK >I don't recall the various settings, but Wayne had us set the rig up >several ways. Even in TEST function the thumping was still there. > > I believe it has to do with the AF gain and monitor setting,

[Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Toby Pennington
I don't recall the various settings, but Wayne had us set the rig up several ways. Even in TEST function the thumping was still there. I believe it has to do with the AF gain and monitor setting, and the RF gain was set to full clockwise. Power setting did not make any difference. I foun

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Steve Ellington
This reminds me of my Omni V. I had to redress some leads and improve some ground paths to eliminate a nasty click. Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Brian Alsop" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK > Steve et all

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-24 Thread Brian Alsop
--- Original Message - From: "Toby Pennington" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK A friend of mine and myself noticed thumping using QSK with certain settings on the front panel. My friend referred this issue to Wayne at Elecraft, he was ab

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK?

2009-06-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
Don and all, This is not a specific comment on your situation, I am just using it as one example. IF everyone would read through the menu settings for the radio, I believe a lot of these type questions would be answered. Yes, a bit of logical thought about the effects of each setting is in or

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-23 Thread Steve Ellington
in settings? Is that in the manual? Steve Ellington n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: "Toby Pennington" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 9:04 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK >A friend of mine and myself noticed thumping using QSK with certain >settin

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK?

2009-06-23 Thread Don Rasmussen
Think I have it, had set TX DLY to 20, it is normally 8. Somehow I considered this would only apply to VOX mode. ??? Set it back to 8 and QSK is good again. Thanks for the reports... --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Steve Ellington wrote: > From: Steve Ellington > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK

[Elecraft] K3 QSK

2009-06-23 Thread Toby Pennington
A friend of mine and myself noticed thumping using QSK with certain settings on the front panel. My friend referred this issue to Wayne at Elecraft, he was able to duplicate it, and said it was being added to the "to do" list. Best way to eliminate this is to set the rig to semi BK IN,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK?

2009-06-23 Thread Steve Ellington
- From: "Don Rasmussen" To: Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:09 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 QSK? > > Sending a string of DITS using an external keyer, and in QSK mode, I can > hear receiver noise between the dits until about 19 WPM. > > At that point the receiver is m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK?

2009-06-23 Thread David Gilbert
I have no problem hearing 40m BC carriers between dits at 40 wpm using N1MM as an external keyer (via RS-232 cable), so you've got an excessive delay somewhere else in your settings. 73, Dave AB7E Don Rasmussen wrote: > Sending a string of DITS using an external keyer, and in QSK mode, I ca

[Elecraft] K3 QSK?

2009-06-23 Thread Don Rasmussen
Sending a string of DITS using an external keyer, and in QSK mode, I can hear receiver noise between the dits until about 19 WPM. At that point the receiver is muted, so 20wpm or greater on my radio as it sits, there is no QSK. :-( Is there a firmware adjustment that will improve this? TIA,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 :: QSK with external keyer

2008-12-06 Thread inventor_sixty_one
Allan Thanks for the comment, to which I concur. BTW I found my configuration error. I use a WinKeyer USB externally, which interfaces well with my logging programs. My temporary problem was self-induced, and in the PC configuration. Indeed, the K3 QSK is as good as any of my TenTec radios, an

[Elecraft] K3 :: QSK with external keyer

2008-12-05 Thread inventor_sixty_one
I am wondering how/if I can key my K3 using an external keyer, with the same QSK action that I have when using my paddles? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Cha

Re: Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK artefact

2008-04-10 Thread d.cutter
Hello Vic I think to demonstrate the magnitude of the problem I am going to have to measure the audio level and compare it to a side tone at a particular setting. Or, perhaps, make a recording and send it over for evaluation. However, a qualititive statement might do for now: at side tone (m

Re: [Elecraft] K3 QSK artefact

2008-04-09 Thread Vic K2VCO
David Cutter wrote: This is a re-post to see if it attracts comment. This concerns an audible artefact using QSK cw mode. When either rf gain or af gain are at maximum, there is an additional noise which accompanies the Morse characters. I've noticed the phenomenon that you describe, but it

[Elecraft] K3 QSK artefact

2008-04-08 Thread David Cutter
This is a re-post to see if it attracts comment. This concerns an audible artefact using QSK cw mode. When either rf gain or af gain are at maximum, there is an additional noise which accompanies the Morse characters. This can be demonstrated as follows: Mode: QSK cw, paddle sending string of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-29 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi Barry, We will definitely have TX inhibit as an input on the K3 AUX I/O connector. Its not turned on yet, but should be shortly as we add this feature to the firmware. It certainly helps for some set ups when using the rign in a SO2R arrangement etc. 73, Eric Barry N1EU wrote: Thanks D

[Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Phil & Debbie Salas
"Over the past decade I've used a slew of Ten-Tec and Yaesu xcvrs interfaced to Ten-Tec, Alpha, and Acom amplifiers via plug 'n play keying loops with uniformly excellent performance. The lack of QRO QSK with the K3 may be a big issue with some prospective K3 contesters." I disagree that this is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Brendan Minish
Folks, For what it's worth, My QSK amp is an Acom 1000, With the K2 and now with the K3 I have never ever had it hot key or clip Dits. With My old Icom pro2 I had hot keying issues until I started using the solid state keying output (it's faster than the relay driven output) None of my Icoms

RE: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Ed Muns
> K7GT obviously has the same concerns. Over the past decade > I've used a slew of Ten-Tec and Yaesu xcvrs interfaced to > Ten-Tec, Alpha, and Acom amplifiers via plug 'n play keying > loops with uniformly excellent performance. > > The lack of QRO QSK with the K3 may be a big issue with some

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Vic K2VCO
Barry N1EU wrote: K7GT obviously has the same concerns. Over the past decade I've used a slew of Ten-Tec and Yaesu xcvrs interfaced to Ten-Tec, Alpha, and Acom amplifiers via plug 'n play keying loops with uniformly excellent performance. There is a delay built into the K3's amplifier keying o

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft
Hi Barry, There is a lot of confusion and mis-information about the need for CW keying loop feedback from the amplifier to the rig in the amateur community. While certainly it was necessary on some older rig and amp combinations, it is not necessary with a properly designed rig today that has

[Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Barry N1EU
K7GT obviously has the same concerns. Over the past decade I've used a slew of Ten-Tec and Yaesu xcvrs interfaced to Ten-Tec, Alpha, and Acom amplifiers via plug 'n play keying loops with uniformly excellent performance. The lack of QRO QSK with the K3 may be a big issue with some prospective K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Allan Taylor
Don and K3 fans, I have a few comments on interfacing Elecraft transceivers with QSK amps. When the K2 was first announced publicly (Oct 1999, Pacificon QRP forum) Wayne and Eric invited those attending to give input and comments regarding desired features. As I have been a Tentec fan for many ye

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Barry, For amplifier keying, the K3 has an adjustable T-R delay that is very much longer than that provided by the K2. It may be easier to use that than fooling around with the external TX inhibit function. The TX inhibit is more useful to folks who operate VHF/UHF with a sequencer to switch

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Barry N1EU
Thanks Don. Although TX Inhibit is described in the latest C1 version of the manual, I missed it because no mention is made of using it for qsk amp control. It would have been nice to make +5V available on the AUX I/O connector for the pullup wiring. Also, I'm not sure why the manual text refers

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Barry, Something was added to provide a "TX inhibit until PTT" function. That discussion was late in the Field Test cycle. I was involved on the sidelines of the discussion even though I was not a field tester. The bottom line is that it is "in there", but I have not combed the latest docu

[Elecraft] K3 - qsk keying loop

2007-11-28 Thread Barry N1EU
I'm surprised to notice no provision for tx enable/inhibit signals (qsk keying loop) on the K3. I'd appreciate hearing comments on why this wasn't part of the design and what the timing safeguards are in the existing "key out" signal to prevent hot switching on make/break. Thanks & 73, Barry N1EU