Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

2019-09-22 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes that was it Bob and Wes, it was set to 001! Thanks! Conrad PA5Y -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: 22 September 2019 22:44 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio? Check the AF LIM set

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?; DO A BACKUP TO PRESERVE SETTINGS

2019-09-22 Thread Bill Johnson
r 22, 2019 4:38 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio? Yes that was it Bob and Wes, it was set to 001! Thanks! Conrad PA5Y -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: 22 September 2019 22:4

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

2019-09-22 Thread Conrad PA5Y
Yes that was it Bob and Wes, it was set to 001! Thanks! Conrad PA5Y -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX Sent: 22 September 2019 22:44 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio? Check the AF LIM

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

2019-09-22 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Check the AF LIM settings.  {page 57 in the manual}    Typical value is NOR 030. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 9/22/2019 2:42 PM, Conrad PA5Y wrote: Hello I have a K3S with the latest firmware. I use it on EME in fact last night was the first time. It works well but for EME I prefer to operate with the A

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

2019-09-22 Thread Dimitry Borzenko
Hi Conrad. Here is the some situation. I think in the K3 S-meter not in the AGC loop, have diff channel and detector same as in the FT2000. -- Original Message -- From: "Conrad PA5Y" To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" Sent: 22.09.2019 22:42:01 Subject: [Elecraft] K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

2019-09-22 Thread Wes
Check the setting of CONFIG:AF LIM. Wes  N7WS On 9/22/2019 12:42 PM, Conrad PA5Y wrote: Hello I have a K3S with the latest firmware. I use it on EME in fact last night was the first time. It works well but for EME I prefer to operate with the AGC off. If I do a long press on the AGC button th

[Elecraft] K3 AGC off mutes audio?

2019-09-22 Thread Conrad PA5Y
Hello I have a K3S with the latest firmware. I use it on EME in fact last night was the first time. It works well but for EME I prefer to operate with the AGC off. If I do a long press on the AGC button then AGC switches off but so does the audio. I still see the S meter moving slightly which is

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Wes Stewart
So if I slowly turn down the gain on one of your "pro audio" amplifiers and the gain slope changes but remains a straight line that's distortion? On 3/7/2017 4:11 PM, Jim Brown wrote: ... And I'll repeat my previous observation that a signal path with gain that varies with time or with the si

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Richard Ferch
> AGC adjusts the receiver gain, compared to the audio bits, rather slowly and DOES NOT change the "dynamic range." Exactly. AGC changes the receiver's gain between two points in time, not between two signals arriving at the same time. I believe changing the AGC settings does improve the "mush" s

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Jim Brown
Wes and Ed, It's important to realize that in the K3 and later Elecraft rigs, all of this is happening in the digital domain. One thing we learned about DSP in pro audio is that dynamics processing burns a LOT processor cycles. DSP SIMULATES the behavior of analog circuitry, but depending on t

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Wes Stewart
AGC adjusts the receiver gain, compared to the audio bits, rather slowly and DOES NOT change the "dynamic range." If you're listening to a signal and it's too loud for your ears and you turn the audio gain down 10 dB, does that change the amplitude ratio of any signal you're listening to? No

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Alan Bloom
ubject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper What I get using a relatively flat AGC is automation of my riding the RF gain control. I don't see how this kind of automation affects decoder performance. It should help performance as the decoder has a nearly constant level signal to work with.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Ed Muns
- From: Bill Frantz [mailto:fra...@pwpconsult.com] Sent: 07 March, 2017 13:05 To: e...@w0yk.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper What I get using a relatively flat AGC is automation of my riding the RF gain control. I don't see how this kind of autom

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Bill Frantz
What I get using a relatively flat AGC is automation of my riding the RF gain control. I don't see how this kind of automation affects decoder performance. It should help performance as the decoder has a nearly constant level signal to work with. Please explain. Thanks - Bill AE6JV On 3/7/17

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-07 Thread Ed Muns
...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill Frantz Sent: 05 March, 2017 23:17 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper Thanks Al. A very useful paper. Now to use SLP=15 for digital, where I want the AtoD to not have to deal with a big range, while using something with more

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Brian, The effect of reducing the RF Gain is *about* the same as increasing the AGC threshold. Not quite, but that is a simplistic way of looking at it. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/6/2017 6:13 PM, Brian Hunt wrote: I noticed that your AGC curves were made with the RF gain full max. I rarely operate

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Igor Sokolov
Jim, I am competitive mainly when I go on expeditions and operate from semi rare countries like 8Q7 or 6V7 or CT3. Finding clear run frequency from there is not a problem. On the other hand carrying extra box and using big screen there is a problem. Therefore P3 for me is not justifiable exp

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Matt Murphy
Is there a way to simulate different agc settings by generating sine wave CW signals and varying the relevant parameters? I'd like to write some code to allow for straightforward observation of the phenomena we are discussing and various assumptions about the input signals to be tested. It should

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Brian Hunt
I noticed that your AGC curves were made with the RF gain full max. I rarely operate that way. I usually turn the RF gain down to where the noise peaks are barely kicking the S-meter. By doing so, is it fair to say I'm moving the curve to the right? I.e, a higher signal amplitude before the AGC

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 3/6/2017 2:29 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Actually it responds to the integral of all the signals in the passband, but if there is a single stronger one it will predominate. In truth, depending on the AGC *attack time constant* the AGC system responds to the *instantaneous peak voltage* of all s

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread brian
de Brian/K3KO On 3/6/2017 15:11 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: Very nice Al Thanks. 73, Fred KE7X From: Elecraft on behalf of Al Lorona Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:50 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper I spent a little bit of

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Fred Jensen
I think about it as follows: THR: The signal level at which AGC action begins. Lower number = lower signal level where AGC begins. SLP: Wayne is an EE and I'll bet he views SLP as the degree of gain compression in the AGC system. Thus, higher SLP values mean a higher amount of "compression

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,3/6/2017 11:42 AM, Igor Sokolov wrote: This is really a great idea wich is if ever implemented would make me finally purchase P3. Igor, While it's a nice idea, it may or may not be possible to implement. BUT -- we're both pretty active contesters, and I wouldn't dream of working a c

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,3/6/2017 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: This is often referred to as "AGC Pumping". Yes, BUT -- there is distortion associated with AGC action, and that distortion is what is perceived as "mush." [Remember that the fundamental definition of distortion is "anything in the output that's

Re: [Elecraft] [K3} AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Igor Sokolov
Eric, Thank you. This is really a great idea wich is if ever implemented would make me finally purchase P3. I am sure Elecraft is listening. 73, Igor UA9CDC 06.03.2017 12:29, Erik Basilier пишет: Al, your paper looks very helpful for the situation when the concepts need to be studied. After o

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wes is correct. Let me say it in a slightly different way. The AGC simply reduces the gain of the receiver - and it will respond mainly to the strongest signal in the passband. Actually it responds to the integral of all the signals in the passband, but if there is a single stronger one it wi

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Al Lorona
ng exercises: deep breath hold. exhale. again. Al W6LX From: Wes Stewart To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper In Al's very nicely done paper he has this paragraph:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Wes Stewart
In Al's very nicely done paper he has this paragraph: "The purpose of Automatic Gain Control (AGC) is to reduce the range of the signals seen by the sensitive stages in the receiver. The AGC stage is designed to vary its gain depending on the input signal; stronger signals get less ga

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
Very nice report - thanks! - Sverre, LA3ZA K2 #2198, K3 #3391, LA3ZA Blog: http://la3za.blogspot.com, LA3ZA Unofficial Guide to K2 modifications: http://la3za.blogspot.com/p/la3za-unofficial-guide-to-elecraft-k2.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-06 Thread Cady, Fred
Very nice Al Thanks. 73, Fred KE7X From: Elecraft on behalf of Al Lorona Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 10:50 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper I spent a little bit of time this weekend and put together yet another K3 AGC

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC with Dual Receivers

2017-03-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chuck, If you look at the chart of CONFIG menu listings, all menu items that have [SUB] indicated are separate settings for the main and the subRX. There is no such indicator for the AGC parameters, indicating that those menu entries apply to both the main and the subRX. The AGC parameters

[Elecraft] K3 AGC with Dual Receivers

2017-03-06 Thread Chuck Guenther
I've been using my trusty K3 for years with a single receiver, and frequently experiment with AGC THR and SLP settings for best DX reception. As I seldom am in a position to "Run" stations, I have not been bothered by what has been referred to as "pileup mush," except perhaps when I switch bri

[Elecraft] [K3} AGC White Paper

2017-03-05 Thread Erik Basilier
Al, your paper looks very helpful for the situation when the concepts need to be studied. After one has a reasonable understanding of the concepts, the stituation that comes up now and then is wanting to change some of the AGC parameters in the K3. I don't know about others, but I tend to forget th

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-05 Thread Bill Frantz
Thanks Al. A very useful paper. Now to use SLP=15 for digital, where I want the AtoD to not have to deal with a big range, while using something with more dynamic range for voice/CW. 73 Bill AE6JV On 3/6/17 at 9:50 PM, alor...@sbcglobal.net (Al Lorona) wrote: I spent a little bit of time th

[Elecraft] [K3] AGC White Paper

2017-03-05 Thread Al Lorona
I spent a little bit of time this weekend and put together yet another K3 AGC (YAKA) "white paper" to put some measurements and discussion of the results down in the hope that others may benefit. Maybe it'll help folks understand AGC better by demystifying some of the K3 idiosyncrasies. I hope i

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Frantz
When I got my K3 I was a relatively new ham. I was delighted that the default settings were good usable values. Having a good starting point was valuable in learning how to use radios and the K3 in particular. Kudos to Elecraft. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 12/5/13 at 5:45 PM, jeffvk...@gmail.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Jeff Cochrane
On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 07:28:19 +1000, Cady, Fred wrote: Whatever the defaults are, that is what I am using. I have had no need nor want to change them. (And ditto for most other settings in my K3, I found that it works for me 'right out of the box') 73 de -- Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA East Innisfai

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
My numbers are: AF LIM 030 THR 010 SLP 008 DCY Nor HLD 0.00 PLS NOR AGC-F 120 AGC-S 020 The only variables I have experimented with are THR and SLP. I mostly operate phone with some CW and I really don't have any objections to the way my K3 works. 73, de Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims tha

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Cady, Fred
ed; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey > > The K3 can become many different rigs for different people. The AGC > characteristics are the most configurable of all, so the survey won't > be > meaningful without one more key question: > &g

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Gary Gregory
Plus I suspect an individuals hearing also effects what settings are used? Still, Fred has no doubtgot a use for theinfo but for me, I am in the US till February so no K3 here to make some notes. Brr...and I am freezing. ? Gary On 05/12/2013 7:28 AM, "Cady, Fred" wrote: > Hi All, > It'

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Ian White
ecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft- >boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Cady, Fred >Sent: 04 December 2013 21:28 >To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net' >Subject: [Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey > >Hi All, >It's been a while since the K3 AGC operation was chang

[Elecraft] K3 AGC values survey

2013-12-04 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi All, It's been a while since the K3 AGC operation was changed (about 4.51) so it might be fun to see what everybody has settled down on using. It you want to reply here or to me off line, I'll compile the result and post them. My numbers are: AF LIM 20 (probably a little high) THR 12 (about S

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC settings for weak signal CW

2013-01-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Chad, You will be better off setting the AGC parameters to match your operating needs. Go to my website www.w3fpr.com and read the article on "Noisy K3" to guilde you. The menu parameters have been expanded since that article was written, but the principles are the same, but they now cover a g

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC settings for weak signal CW

2013-01-17 Thread Chad Wasinger
m > To: chadwasin...@outlook.com > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC settings for weak signal CW > > Chad, > > AGC doesn't kick in till way above weak signal on any reasonable values > of THR and slope. Of course a mast mounted preamp on 2M would help a > lot. One can get b

[Elecraft] K3 AGC settings for weak signal CW

2013-01-17 Thread Chad Wasinger
Would anyone be willing to share their preferred AGC settings for receiving weak cw signals? Specifically, I'm wanting to fine tune my settings for listening to "at the noise" 2 meter and 6 meter beacons. Thanks!ChadN0YK

[Elecraft] K3 AGC settings used in CQ WW CW

2012-11-26 Thread Steve Ireland
G'day Prior to the CQ WW CW contest, I did some experimentation with the K3 AGC settings (rev 4.51 firmware). I started with the AGC SLP set to 0 and the AGC THR to 8. After some problems with the AGC action on stronger signals (S9 to S9 plus), I increased the SLP to 2 and found that there was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC settings w/ MCU 4.51

2012-10-21 Thread Dave Hachadorian
-td7556676.html#a7556700 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, Arizona -Original Message- From: Richard Lee Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:07 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 AGC settings w/ MCU 4.51 Hello All, I own a K3, am running MCU 4.51, and operate virtually 100

[Elecraft] K3 AGC settings w/ MCU 4.51

2012-10-21 Thread Richard Lee
Hello All, I own a K3, am running MCU 4.51, and operate virtually 100% cw. With respect to MCU 4.51, I note that the software site says, "AGC IMPROVEMENTS: AGC threshold (CONFIG:AGC THR) can now be set much higher, and the AGC has better (more monotonic) response curves. Greatly improves sign

[Elecraft] K3 - AGC Slope and Hold

2012-10-07 Thread N2TK, Tony
With firmware 4.51 what seems to be the consensus for contesting, both SSB and CW for AGC Slope and Hold settings? Still playing with settings. We get strong US/EU pileups and a mixture of strong and weak pileups from AS. Presently using SLP=1, THR=9. Anything special about any of the other AGC s

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Version 4.51 signal measurements

2012-05-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Cady, Fred wrote: > > Observations: > > As THR increases, the effect of SLP decreases.Changing SLP > behavior as a function of THR has been done to protect the user's > ears. Correct. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] K3 AGC Version 4.51 signal measurements

2012-05-12 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi all, Like many, I haven't been able to find a decent pileup the last few days to test the version 4.51 AGC. I don't use the NR or notch function either so have concentrated on making some measurements using the XG3 as a signal generator. The figure on http://www.ke7x.com/home/miscellaneous-k3-i

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-10 Thread W4CCS
No thanks Guy. I'll just wait for the brave ones to work out all the "cooties".. Thanks W4CCS On 5/10/2012 11:32 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > Short version: It's still in the kitchen. > > Long version: > > This is still in pre-beta, being evaluated by a goodly number of hams > who volunteered

[Elecraft] K3 AGC

2012-05-10 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The last word from Aptos was that they were still testing the new changes. I am sure they will release it to beta when it is ready. -- Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-10 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Short version: It's still in the kitchen. Long version: This is still in pre-beta, being evaluated by a goodly number of hams who volunteered to test it before all the cooties were cleaned out. Some number of issues have been ferreted out, a couple serious, and there were some deliberate omission

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-10 Thread W4CCS
Hi All: Just wondering if this was released.. If so, I cannot find it. de W4CCS On 5/8/2012 10:59 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available > later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will > fix the audio-dropout prob

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-09 Thread Wayne Burdick
___ > From: Wayne Burdick > To: Elecraft Reflector > Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 10:59:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74) > > Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available > later today. It will allow NR

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-09 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
2012 10:59:37 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74) Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available  later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will  fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported. Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-08 Thread VE3GNO Daniel
On my side I am ready to load it and stress little bit the radio flash with new build :-) tnx Wayne VE3GNO Daniel From: Wayne Burdick To: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Tuesday, May 8, 2012 10:59:37 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-08 Thread Wayne Burdick
Just a reminder: There will be further improved K3 firmware available later today. It will allow NR and autonotch at all settings, and will fix the audio-dropout problem some have reported. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: h

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-08 Thread Adi Toplician
Hi everybody In evaluating the new firmware I use 2xK3, #791 #5752 * * *Initial conditions*: Rx Eq flat on booths rigs BW 700Hz, no CW roofing only 2.7KHz (5poles) AGC DCY –Soft AGC SLP -003 AGC FST -100 K3 #791 THR=14-17 (usually 14) K3 #5752 THR=5-8 (usually 7) Test: single sig

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread BobK8IA
Compared to the many others that have weighed in already, I am a few days late taking a look at the new firmware. It may have been worth the wait. In a nutshell, the new 4.50/2.74 works extremely well. I've been waiting for my K3 to really be able to perform in deep pileups, like I had thoug

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread N5GE
Bill, What! You mean you don't want them to pass it through three or four levels of management, design, Gant chart creation, quality control and documentation before releasing it to the developers! What are you? A "bloated corporation" hater? Remember! "We owe it to the stockholders to appe

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread N5GE
ft K3: Design, Configuration, and Operation" >www.ke7x.com > > >-Original Message- >From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net >[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David F. Reed >Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM >To: Elecraft Reflector >Subjec

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Frantz
Not to worry. Your comments are a fine description of why in exchange for openness on the part of the vendor, the customers (we) need to exhibit patients when the inevitable things go wrong and things take longer than everyone hoped. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 5/7/12 at 19:58, w3...@embarqmail.co

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Gary Gregory
*Without the radiation I hope..:-) gary * On 8 May 2012 13:18, David Christ wrote: > Software developers call it alpha. Greek alphabet ya know -- alpha, > beta, gamma... I guess gamma must be the production release. > > David K0LUM > > At 10:42 PM -0400 5/7/12, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > >Beta

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread David Christ
Software developers call it alpha. Greek alphabet ya know -- alpha, beta, gamma... I guess gamma must be the production release. David K0LUM At 10:42 PM -0400 5/7/12, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: >Beta Beta. > >On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Cady, Fred wrote: > >> Hi Dave, >> It's not beta yet.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread W2RU - Bud Hippisley
On May 7, 2012, at 10:42 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > Beta Beta. Meaning, I presume, it's a "beta" Beta than the first Beta. Well, I guess we "beta" that to death Bud, W2RU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/ma

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Sorry, I was responding to the wrong post. While the content is valid for what it is, it is in response to a post on the KX3 Yahoo Group, and has nothing to do with the K3 AGC. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/7/2012 10:53 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bill, > > True, true -- but the situation with the KX3 is dif

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Keith Heimbold
Making a great rig even better. Totally stoked to play with the radio with the new firmware. > To my ears, this AGC change is a MAJOR improvement! It didn't > take any extensive testing to reach that conclusion. The > difference is immediately obvious. > > As mentioned previously, with low v

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bill, True, true -- but the situation with the KX3 is different than what has transpired with previous products. Previously, the conversations of the Field Testers have been on a private forum. While that is still true with the KX3, there is a lot more information that is "in the open". My gu

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
; -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David F. Reed > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74) > >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Bill Frantz
As a retired software developer, what amazes me is the way Wayne and company are performing their beta test. No NDA. It looks like almost anyone can sign up. Problems and future intentions are discussed in a public forum. I am blown away that a company would act this way. It is very refreshing.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Great! I have sent the SW to about 5 people. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net On 5/7/2012 5:59 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I just talked to Lyle. Looks like by tomorrow we'll have a version of > DSP code that allows NR and autonotch to be used at all threshold > settings, and fixes the high

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Kevin
We in the IT business call it "Alpha" and you don't send it to anybody who can't figure out how to fix a broken system. In this case it's pretty easy, reset the radio and reload a backed up FW and config. I would call what Wayne is doing this time Beta and when it is released on the website for

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
I just talked to Lyle. Looks like by tomorrow we'll have a version of DSP code that allows NR and autonotch to be used at all threshold settings, and fixes the high-signal issue some had reported. I'll send it out to everyone who got the last test version. Wayne N6KR Fred Jensen wrote: > I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Cady, Fred
alf Of David F. Reed Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 5:00 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74) I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no Beta... Clues for the clueless? Thanks

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Fred Jensen
I think Wayne's post indicated it would be "released" as a beta in the next week or so once the field test reports were in and they were satisfied with it. It sure sounds like a really good job on the AGC, I guess patience is in order ... I know, hard for this list and these products. :-) 73,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread David F. Reed
I cannot seem to locate where to download this; I can only see 4.48, no Beta... Clues for the clueless? Thanks and 73 de Dave, W5SV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qt

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Rick Bates
Now if we could convince ANY vehicle manufacturer to have the same attitude, designers that are also mechanics (without the need for an MSEE)... Maybe we'd have a chance to work under the hood again like we can with Elecraft. Rick wa6nhc :o) -Original Message- From: Doug Turnbull It help

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tony Estep Sent: 07 May 2012 22:42 To: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74) On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: > Thanks for working

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: > Thanks for working on this issue! > = This is a real-life example of a terrific attitude toward customer satisfaction. When this issue was first raised, the company could have been defensive and simply asserted that there was n

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/7/2012 1:56 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote: > To my ears, this AGC change is a MAJOR improvement! It didn't take > any extensive testing to reach that conclusion. The difference is > immediately obvious. That's very good news. Possibly a beta release this week or maybe next, I hope. 73, Fre

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC improvements (MCU rev 4.50 / DSP 2.74)

2012-05-07 Thread Dave Hachadorian
To my ears, this AGC change is a MAJOR improvement! It didn't take any extensive testing to reach that conclusion. The difference is immediately obvious. As mentioned previously, with low values of slope and high values of threshold, loud signals "blank out" with the current firmware release

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC turning off.

2012-05-01 Thread John K3TN
The latest version of the K3 firmware (4.48) has eased that problem for me and HRD. The problem has been on the todo list for HRD for a long time, hopefully they will fix it before they switch to charging for HRD. 73 John K3TN -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC turning off.

2012-04-30 Thread Stephen Prior
Bill If you install Lpbridge which is a port sharing utility which sits between the K3 and up to 5 applications wanting to communicate with the radio, then the problem will disappear! It looks daunting to set up, but in reality it's easy. Problem solved! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 30 April 2012 19:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC turning off.

2012-04-30 Thread Ian Kahn
Bill, When it comes out in the next couple of days, download the 5.2x version of HRD. It should resolve this issue. If not, the new owners of HRD plan to have it corrected in v6.0, which comes out the week of Dayton. --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA EM74ua km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #68

[Elecraft] K3 AGC turning off.

2012-04-30 Thread Bill Wiehe
I have seen this topic posted but I guess I missed the corrective measure(s). My K3 has the latest update and the AGC still just turns off for no reason, even when it is just sitting there in receive mode. Yes we are using HRD and the version we have is 5.11 build 3209. Any additional feedback

[Elecraft] K3 AGC off using HRD, Question

2012-02-03 Thread Richard Fjeld
I know this has been discussed, but I didn't see the following mentioned. I installed the latest HRD Beta V5b2893. The AGC still switches off at times on my K3. I noticed in the Options, Info CAT support, for K-3 radio, the AGC-off command for on/off is set to the same value. Logically, it

[Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Audio Test Files

2011-12-23 Thread Dennis
I ran into a few problems when I tried to send the wav files as email attachments; turns out they were all too big unless cut up into 5 minute slices. Instead, I posted them to my website at https://sites.google.com/site/w1uehamradio/ where they are available for download. I cut the files into 15

[Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Results

2011-12-22 Thread Dennis
I performed the AGC mod as suggested by Wayne N6KR in his "K3 Hardware AGC Experiment shows promise" posting on Dec 4. The mod was to add an additional 1 or 2 uf of capacitance onto C238 on the Main Receiver PCB. I obtained my own SMT caps from Mouser, and for 76cents and 30 minutes of time th

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-16 Thread Lu Romero
Dave: >My next experiment will be to have an N1MM logging program >macro available to send RF Gain command RG090 if a loud >pileup shows up. RF Gain will be returned to 200 by appending >the RG200 command to the "thank you" message. This should >be the ultimate in "riding the RF gain control."

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC PLS

2011-12-16 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Guy, The K3 NoiseBlanker does a real good job here. Give it a moderate setting and it will work fine. 73, Arie PA3A Op 16-12-2011 6:04, Guy Olinger K2AV schreef: > Yeah, but then don't key clicks punch up your slow AGC?73, Guy. > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Ralph Parker wrote: > >>

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC PLS

2011-12-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Yeah, but then don't key clicks punch up your slow AGC?73, Guy. On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Ralph Parker wrote: > >- switch the PLS off. My experience in CW contests is that the > >PLS function will treat fast strong CW signals as pulses > >and will bypass the slow AGC for the first few

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC PLS

2011-12-15 Thread Ralph Parker
>- switch the PLS off. My experience in CW contests is that the >PLS function will treat fast strong CW signals as pulses >and will bypass the slow AGC for the first few dots of a signal. AHA! Tnx, Arie. I have noticed this many times, and was unable to determine what caused it. Ralph, VE7XF __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-15 Thread Dave Hachadorian
rol." Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: Dennis Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:53 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend This weekend I will be participating in the Stew Perry 160M contest, as will many of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-15 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Fred, Maybe I did not express it right: I want some more activity from the AGC means for me: audio response more flat with different signal levels. SLP 15 is most flat audio level in this case. 73, Arie PA3A Op 15-12-2011 15:17, Cady, Fred schreef: > > Slope >0 flattens the agc response. Have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-15 Thread Bill W4ZV
Dennis I'd consider the following minor tweaks to your AGC settings: HLD 0.20 AGS-S 040 Most importantly, set your RF Gain back so that the S-meters rest above the residual noise floor (including clicks, phase noise, etc). Once RF Gain is set, then adjust AF Gain to suit your ears/headphones. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-15 Thread Cady, Fred
Slope >0 flattens the agc response. Have a look at some curves on The AGC Story on ke7x.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Arie Kleingeld PA3A Sent: Thu 12/15/2011 3:08 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test T

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-15 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Dennis, Thanks for this try-out! I'm looking forward to hear the results. Some suggestions: - switch the PLS off. My experience in CW contests is that the PLS function will treat fast strong CW signals as pulses and will bypass the slow AGC for the first few dots of a signal. - maybe set the SL

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mod Test This Weekend

2011-12-14 Thread Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
Here's a link to the message from Wayne N6KR that Dennis W1UE is referring to. It's buried in a thread about contest scores. http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Fw-CQ-WW-DX-Contest-CW-2011-Unofficial-claimed-scores-tp7060148p7061538.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.

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