[Elecraft] K1

2014-11-17 Thread w1dwz w1dwz
Thanks to all who have helped me here on the Reflector , maturing as a ELECRAFT Newbie One more query. Using ( 2 )2 -channel filter boards , instead of the 4 channel board which is no longer available , I am confused as to how to configure the channel #'s of them. It seems to

Re: [Elecraft] K1

2014-11-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, When the K1 detects a 2 band board, it will only show b1 and b2. You will have to set those two parameters each time you change the board. The frequency offsets are remembered for each band, so unless there is a duplication of a band between the two boards, you will not have to change

[Elecraft] K1 Power Out flaky

2014-11-15 Thread w1dwz w1dwz
I am an ELECRAFT Newbie. Just finished a K! and it works great out of the box. I am slowly learning the operating stunts with the TAP / HOLD feature . One little glitch . To set the output power , it sets properly , say at 4.0 Watts, with the WPM +/- buttons , but after a

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Power Out flaky

2014-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave, That sounds like the behavior of an unsoldered or poorly soldered connection that is heating when you transmit. I don't know where to tell you to start looking, but if you want to shorten the search, you might be able to tell something from the Transmit Signal Tracing steps in the

[Elecraft] K1 FOR SALE

2014-11-10 Thread Tomy
Nice looking and working Elecraft QRP K1 with the KFL1-4 band filter board installed, 40, 30, 20, and 15 meters. It will not transmit on 15m. I talked with Don w3fpr and after a voltage check he thought that the bandpass filters needed to be adjusted. Works great on all other bands. Output is

[Elecraft] WTB: Elecraft K1

2014-10-30 Thread Steve Ireland
G’day After my earlier ad for a basic Elecraft K1 (no extras) two-bander covering 40m and 20m, it was suggested to me off-list that I was cutting down my options and it would be better simply asking if there was anyone who had had a Elecraft K1 of any kind for sale. I think the writer had

[Elecraft] WTB: Basic Elecraft K1 for 40m + 20m

2014-10-29 Thread Steve Ireland
G’day I am looking for a basic Elecraft K1 (no extras) two-bander covering 40m and 20m. Please email me direct if you have one that you are interested in selling. Thank you! Vy 73 Steve, VK6VZ --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-19 Thread Mike Morrow
Curt wrote: I thought the K1 was the commercial version of the Sierra. The...er...Sierra is the commercial version of the Sierra. :-) It's still sold by Wilderness Radio. The Sierra is rather different from the K1. Not least difference being the four PIC controllers found in the

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-19 Thread Rick Dettinger
Maybe not. The Sierra has been shown on the Wilderness Radio website as out of stock for quite a while now. Too bad. It was a very versatile kit. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Mike Morrow wrote: The...er...Sierra is the commercial version of the Sierra. :-)

[Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-18 Thread Curt
I thought the K1 was the commercial version of the Sierra. Didn't the Sierra predate Elecraft? BTW, the K1 is about the neatest QRP radio I own, even above my K2. I've built boards for every band 80M-10M, especially enjoy working from the patio @ 1W into an EFHW on 20M. It's my go to rig

[Elecraft] K1 and Cumbria Designs X-Lock

2014-10-17 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy fellow Elecrafters. Would like to get in contact with anyone out there who has interfaced a Cumbria Designs X-Lock VFO stabilizer with a K1. 73, Joe W2KJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K1 and Cumbria Designs X-Lock

2014-10-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Joe, I have not tried it, but Davbe G4AON has written a paper on his installation. You can see it at http://www.cumbriadesigns.co.uk/images/X-Lock%20K1/X-Lock_K1.pdf. It looks straightforward enough to me. I would think you would have to adjust the VFO range after installation, but that is

Re: [Elecraft] K1 and Cumbria Designs X-Lock

2014-10-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Oh no -- I'm not yet done with my K1, it appears. I wondered why the pdf file below showed no photos with the mounting of the board in the K1; then I read For the time being it is working perfectly while wrapped in bubble wrap! :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 10/17/14, 7:21 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K1 and Cumbria Designs X-Lock

2014-10-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil, Scroll down a bit and you will see the photos - unless you have something lacking in the .pdf viewer in your browser - in that case, download the link by right clicking and choose save file as then open it with Adobe Reader. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/17/2014 11:12 AM, Phil Wheeler wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K1 and Cumbria Designs X-Lock

2014-10-17 Thread EricJ
I noticed the same thing that Phil did. Three photos show up. Not one of them shows the X-Lock in or out of bubble wrap. The hookup photos were less interesting to me at this point than how he was able to stuff it in the K1. Eric KE6US On 10/17/2014 8:28 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Phil, Scroll

[Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-17 Thread r j
Hi. I have noticed that the K1 and Sierra rcvrs are very similar (as 602 based designs). The main difference is imo that the Sierra has a MC1350 IF amp (as has the K2 btw) followed by an LM386, but the K1 seems to do all amplification after XFIL on AF frequencies using LM386+LM380. Could/have

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-17 Thread WILLIS COOKE via Elecraft
Since you consider yourself as an RF tinkerer, it sounds like an interesting experiment. Since the technology in the K1 predates my interest in Elecraft, probably the up to date inclusions in the Sierra were not available when the K1 was designed 20 years or so ago. The K3 design is not

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod?

2014-10-17 Thread r j
... probably the up to date inclusions in the Sierra were not available when the K1 was designed 20 years or so ago... The Sierra predates the K1. The NE602 mixer and MC1350 IF amp was in common use long before the Sierra was designed and even longer before Elecraft was formed. Elecraft used

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Mike Morrow
...were not available when the K1 was designed 20 years or so ago. That's a pretty fanciful date to just pick out of thin air! :-) There wasn't anything that was Elecraft 20 years ago. The K1 was shown first at Dayton 2000, after which many of us ordered one. The first deliveries to the mass

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
More history - Elecraft was formally created July of 1998. (We began working on the K2 design well before that.) We shipped the first 100 K2 Field Test Units January and Feb. of 1999. We took orders for production K2 kits at Dayton in May of 1999. We followed that with the K1, then the KX1,

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread r j
Well ... Thanks for the history. One can also look at Elecraft's website http://www.elecraft.com/about_elecraft.htm But my question remains: Why did the (very early) Sierra and the (first Elecraft product) K2 have IF amp (MC1350 - and of course the standard AF amp LM386), but the K1 was

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
Roy, I think one of the reasons for the change from the MC1350 to the NE612 followed by the LM386 was due to the fact that when the K1 was designed, the MC1350 in its DIP format was not to be used for current designs. Yes, the MC1350 is still available in SMD format, and Elecraft has

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread r j
Yep - the K2 uses LM380, but the Sierra uses only an LM386 as headphone amp. My ill formulated sentence. But it doesn't matter - its all AF dBs. My point is that the Sierra and the K2 uses an IF amp MC1350 before the product detector 602 (612, NE, SA ...), and gets a 'proper' AGC. The K2 is of

Re: [Elecraft] K1 IF Amp Mod? Some history.

2014-10-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Hmm .. so where is the KX2, Eric? :-) 73, Phil W7OX On 10/17/14, 6:34 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: More history - Elecraft was formally created July of 1998. (We began working on the K2 design well before that.) We shipped the first 100 K2 Field Test Units January and Feb. of

[Elecraft] K1-4, KAT1: low output on 30, 40, no match on 40 (Part I)

2014-09-25 Thread Randy Tompson
I'm hoping someone here might have had a similar issue, and save me some time. I recently installed a KAT1 into my K1-4. I have 40, 30, 20, and 15 meters installed in the K1. Symptoms: low output (0.1w) on 40 meters and 30 meters. KAT1 will not match to 50 ohm dummy load on 40 meters.

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4, KAT1: low output on 30, 40, no match on 40 (Part I)

2014-09-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Randy, Did the KAT1 wattmeter balance (null) and power and SWR calibrations proceed without incident? The voltage obtained during the nulling procedure should have been in the low millivolt range. If it was not, the problem may be in the wattmeter portion of the KAT1. Check T1 very closely.

Re: [Elecraft] K1 with a strange XFIL problem...

2014-09-23 Thread ae6rq
Success! Thanks to Bruce N1RX for his knowledge and prior troubleshooting to resolve this issue. http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n7593336/sn2404fp_problem.jpg What he described and photographed (above) are exactly the cause of this problem. The RIT switch leg was making contact

[Elecraft] K1 K1-4/2 with options for sale

2014-09-23 Thread Luis V. Romero
Thank you all: The K1 is sold pending funds. 73 Lu - W4LT On Sep 22, 2014 5:16 PM, Lu Romero lrom...@ij.net wrote: K1 #2539 for sale I would like to sell my K1-4/2 for personal reasons. The rig comes with the following options: - Finger Dimple - LCD Backlight kit -

Re: [Elecraft] K1 with a strange XFIL problem...

2014-09-22 Thread ae6rq
Hi all - I wonder if this problem has ever been resolved? I have had the same issue for several years with mine (serial number 278, previously owned by K8RA who reported the same problem.)

[Elecraft] K1 - For Sale: K1-4/2 with options

2014-09-22 Thread Lu Romero
K1 #2539 for sale I would like to sell my K1-4/2 for personal reasons. The rig comes with the following options: - Finger Dimple - LCD Backlight kit - KFL1-4 Four band module with o 40 meters o 30 meters o 20 meters o 17

[Elecraft] K1 For Sale

2014-08-30 Thread John Hendricks
The K1 I offered for sale has been sold. John K7JLT __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by:

[Elecraft] K1 For Sale

2014-08-26 Thread John Hendricks
K1 For Sale Serial Number 206 Original Non-Smoking Owner Equipped With- - K1-4 4 Band Module with 15, 20,30 40 Meters (Trimmer Mod Installed) - KAT1 Antenna Tuner - KNB1 Noise Blanker - Back Lighted LED Modification - Homemade Tilt Stand - Spare 2 Band Module with 40 20 Meter (80 meter parts

[Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Les Garwood
Dear Fellows, I just finished construction of my K1. The receiver stage worked perfectly until I finished the transmitter stage. I still get audio hiss and volume but no signal on any band, AGC on or off, attenuator on or off. All the voltages and resistances check out except the anode of D9,

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Les, You did not mention your test gear nor any information about your setup, so I have to make some guesses and ask some groundwork questions. Are you injecting RF from a signal generator to the BNC jack? If so, is that signal large enough to register on what you are using to determine

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Mike Morrow
Les wrote: All the voltages and resistances check out except the anode of D9, according to the manual, is supposed to be 100k. I'm sure this is an error, however, since the DC path to ground from that point goes through three resistors and a choke totalling only about a couple K, which is what

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Les Garwood
Thanks again, Don. I've been using Elecraft's signal injector; you may know it puts out 50 micro volts on the high setting. I'll try your suggestions but I think I did part of them already. BTW, I'm using my Android phone so it's tough to write a lot of detail. Les On Aug 22, 2014 11:05 AM, Don

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Hi, Yes, Tom had scans of all the legacy gear boards, both top and bottom. They were on the preserved website at http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/, but right now, it looks like the link refers back to the master page. I will try to contact their webmaster to see if that can be fixed. In the

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Les, 50 uV is not a large enough signal to see on a 'scope or RF probe. You really need 1.4 volts (or whatever is specified in the procedure) of RF input. I suggest you build the simple oscillator shown in the Signal Tracing appendix of the manual. It has good output for that purpose. The

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Les Garwood
Helpful once again. I also use a Heatkit signal gen., I didn't mention. It punches up well on my scope. I'll try it again. The scans are what's already on the board, however. These have been useful but limited. Maybe there is something out on the Net that identifies the solder points/pads too.

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Issue. Lost reception when transmitter stage completed.

2014-08-22 Thread Eugene Worth
You mean this link for N0SS signal tracing on the K1? http://www.mmccs.com/mmarc/n0ss/k1_signal_tracing.pdf Mid-Missouri radio club continues to maintain most of Tom’s papers. 72, gene WG7GW __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] K1 Receiver Sensitivity Issue.

2014-08-18 Thread Les Garwood
Dear Fellows, I Bought a K1 kit at a ham fest several years ago (SN 02197) and recently finished the receiver section. Although audio is strong, as evidenced by the hiss, I have nearly no signal on all 4 bands. I can pump strong rf into it and hear a good side tone/bfo but not strongly. Once, I

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Receiver Sensitivity Issue.

2014-08-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Les, Yes, the NE612 should show plenty of gain. When it does not, the usual reason is little or no oscillator signal to pin 6. The Pre-mixer Bandpass filter must be aligned before you will get much of a signal at U1 pin 6. Since you have a 'scope (hopefully with a 10X probe), I will give

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Receiver Sensitivity Issue.

2014-08-18 Thread Les Garwood
Hi Don, Extremely helpful and encouraging; thanks. Actually, I was able to get the trimmers set pretty well, i think, using a strong signal source. But I will make the measurements you recommended. Right now, I suspect either low VFO output or something is pulling down the gain of U1. Les On

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Receiver Sensitivity Issue.

2014-08-18 Thread Don Wilhelm
Les, If you can get at least 200 mV peak to peak out of the Pre-Mixer bandpass, the VFO level is OK. The VFO and band module xtal oscillator are mixed in U7 and the output of that mixer (after the bandpass filter) is applied to U1 pin 6. If you find you need to check for loading of the U1

Re: [Elecraft] K1 Receiver Sensitivity Issue.

2014-08-18 Thread Les Garwood
Hi Don, Success!!! I mostly followed your advice--I say mostly because I got diverted when I found a clue. I would still be searching without your insights and expertise, however. I was getting about 150 mv out of pin 4 of u7. I traced it to pins 1and 2 of J6, which was still hot on the scope

[Elecraft] K1 stand....WTB

2014-08-15 Thread Edward Kacura via Elecraft
Still looking for the stand Elecraft discontinued for the K1. If you have one you don't want or use, let me know. Contact me off line @ ekac...@yahoo.com ThanksEd n7edk Sent from my iPhone __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] K1 Stand

2014-08-06 Thread edward kacura via Elecraft
Good Morning, Looking for the stand that Elecraft use to sell for the K1. If any of you folks have one you don't use/don't want anymore, I'd like to buy it from you ! Thanks, contact me off-line at ekac...@yahoo.com. 72/73 de Ed N7EDK

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-26 Thread Humberto
Hi, what would you think of a six-band module ? Would it be interresting for the elecraft K1 users ? I am think about build one. With afined design which is easier to align with different trim capacitors ! Your opinion ??? 73 Herbert -- View this message in context: http://elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-26 Thread Phil Wheeler
of a six-band module ? Would it be interresting for the elecraft K1 users ? I am think about build one. With afined design which is easier to align with different trim capacitors ! Your opinion ??? 73 Herbert __ Elecraft mailing list Home

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-23 Thread Curt
Oh well, all good things eventually end. Kit building in the conventional sense is probably a declining interest anyway. Having built both thru-hole and SMT radios (ATS-3B), probably enjoy building about as much as operating. Am thankful to have built a K1-4 (40/30/20/15) several years ago,

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-23 Thread Phil Wheeler
Curt, All you say rings true. And this is an especially important point: /Changing band modules is a special pain for me because installed the onboard tuner (which is rarely used) into my K//1/ The band module resides under the ATU board making such changes something not done without

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-23 Thread Mike Morrow
Changing band modules is a special pain for me because installed the onboard tuner (which is rarely used) into my K//1/ The band module resides under the ATU board making such changes something not done without some strong motive. Tom/N0SS described 14 years ago a simple technique that

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-23 Thread Don Wilhelm
I am aware of the rubber band trick, but I find no difficulty at all in plugging the KAT1 even with loose standoffs. First place the standoffs so they are close to the holes in the board. Next (and most important) put the long screws through the KAT1 board - hold them down with your fingers or

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-23 Thread Hjalmar Duklæt
I use the technique with the rubber band and change filter board in 5 minutes from I start to unscrew the first screw of the top cover.  73 de Hal/la4xx K1 2929 On 14-07-23 19:12, Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote: Changing band modules is a special pain for me because installed the

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-21 Thread N4OI - Ken
Wow -- I kind of touched a nerve with the big boy reference! I recall this term was used by Dave Benson in some of his SWL kit documentation. It merely referred the reader to a stripped-down section of the instructions if one wanted to bypass the lengthy, step-by-step narrative... My point is

[Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never

2014-07-21 Thread riese-k3djc
while this string is open I have used a small Iron and tweezers to position chip caps/resistors tack one end and then do the other end,,, I use some liquid rosin the multi lead devices make sure leads are centered on the board then tack one pin,,, solder the rest and use solder wick to clean up

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never

2014-07-21 Thread Phil Wheeler
I don't think it's a matter of technique, Bob. I have all the right equipment (the special tweezers, solder paste - in the fridge, a hot plate, a heat gun). And I will do small, simple boards -- which even a 4-band K1 would not be. My problem is knowing that an ill timed sneeze can cause a

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-21 Thread hwschulte
Am 21.07.2014 14:40, schrieb N4OI - Ken: Wow -- I kind of touched a nerve with the big boy reference! I recall this term was used by Dave Benson in some of his SWL kit documentation. It merely referred the reader to a stripped-down section of the instructions if one wanted to bypass the

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Simple SMD kits are fine because the success rate can be high and the investment risk on the part of both the customer and the manufacturer is low. We may offer such kits in the future, though we don't have any present plans for these. The percentage of builders who could complete a complex

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-21 Thread hwschulte
Hi all, as I started that idea with the SMT components, I will try to moderate a little bit. I am over sixty and so I know the problems with needs of special glasses to handle the SMT components down at 603 or 402 ( 1 x 0.5mm). So my idea is, not designing without SMT, but for those who like

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Humberto
Hi Wayne, hi K1 friends, I followed the discussion about the 4 band module and the problems. I can imagine to design a replacement board with four or even more bands in a way, that the problems with the alignment and the components will be solved. I do not know, if the dialogue to the PIC was

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Humberto
Hi Wayne, hi K1 friends, I followed the discussion about the 4 band module and the problems. I can imagine to design a replacement board with four or even more bands in a way, that the problems with the alignment and the components will be solved. I do not know, if the dialogue to the PIC was

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread N4OI - Ken
I was reminded how capable the K1 is a couple weeks ago at a beach house at Seabrook Island, SC... I broke away from family activities for just a couple hours one night and made solid K1 DX QSOs with Ukraine, Sweden, Italy and others using just a lightweight 20 meter dipole tied to the corner of

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Gil G.
I will second that. I built two Weber MTRs and in many ways it was easier than through-hole, except for the size. I used a soldering iron. “No soldering required” kits are no fun to me. I would never say that I built my KX3 for instance, only assembled it. Gil. -- PGP Key:

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Phil Wheeler
Not all serious hams would agree with you. In my first SMT effort I was very careful but lost one part. Looked all over for it. Two days later I found it in my shoe. I have paste, hot air gun, hot plate -- all the goodies -- but I try to avoid using them, a matter of mental stress -- and,

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Ray Sills
And, not all hams are able to have a workbench or shack to house the needed gear. Sometimes, things like that intervene. While it would be nice to be able to build, not everyone can, even if they have the desire and experience. Doesn't mean they aren't serious about ham radio. 73 de

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Gil G.
LOL, yes, size is definitely an issue. I use glasses, a magnifying lens and tweezers. You do not have to cut leads that end up everywhere though. It is precise work, no doubt, especially on the ICs. I know in ten or fifteen years I may not be able to see those parts anymore. I like SMT though,

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Dave KW4M
And here's a third. I built one of Weber's ATS-3B kits and use it on occasion, such as during Field Day 2011. http://www.genebitsystems.com/david/HamRadio/FieldDay2011/FieldDay2011.htm The demand and popularity of his kits is evident as the last run of MTRs sold out literally hours after it

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Mike Morrow
... perhaps it is time for Elecraft to start offering some big boy kits that make full use of SMTs and other modern components. Some would likely take exception to that strong implication that one is not a big boy (whatever that means) if one rejects significant SMT hand application. I've

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Phil Wheeler
Just imagine a KX3 kitted at the parts level. I wonder if the price would be less than the current offering? Phil W7OX On 7/20/14, 9:22 AM, Dave KW4M wrote: And here's a third. I built one of Weber's ATS-3B kits and use it on occasion, such as during Field Day 2011.

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phil, I suspect the cost would be significantly greater than for the assembled board version that we have now. To produce a kit, the parts would have to be pulled and counted, capacitors hand marked for values and packaged in some reasonable manner - that is a lot of labor cost. Much greater

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Phil Hystad
On assembling versus building... I think my hobby of woodworking has almost ripped away my soldering iron from my hot little hands. I still have a solder-kit sitting on my desk ready to be put together (the W1 meter) and it just sits there. All my spare time this summer is building white oak

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-20 Thread Phil Wheeler
That was my thinking, too, Don. Phil W7OX On 7/20/14, 10:16 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Phil, I suspect the cost would be significantly greater than for the assembled board version that we have now. To produce a kit, the parts would have to be pulled and counted, capacitors hand marked for

[Elecraft] K1 Serial #3198 FOR SALE

2014-07-20 Thread Michael Babb
I purchased and built a K1 Transceiver with a two-band module for 40 and 20 meters at the end of 2012.  I immediately fell in love with Elecraft's products, and soon after ordered a KX3.  I don't do much portable operation, so the K1 has sat idle for about a year and a half. (The KX3 has

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Jim Lowman
I have to agree with Mike, especially with the assertion about SMT components being intended for robotic assembly. Imagine all of the troubleshooting calls and e-mails that Elecraft would get if Joe Ham had to populate circuit boards with these miniature components. Too much room for error.

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Bruce Beford
While I understand this mindset; I for one, am grateful that there are SMT-based kits available. I enjoy building both thru-hole and SMT based projects. In many cases, thru hole equivalents are not available for some components. I have built many all-SMT projects, notably those offered by KD1JV,ad

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Russell Conner
Support your local maker space, they will likely have the gear and knowledge to do SMT… and probably a bunch of young guys that have never seen HAM before or know the potential. On Jul 20, 2014, at 3:04 PM, Jim Lowman jmlow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have to agree with Mike, especially with

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Jim Lowman
More power to you and others who have the patience, equipment and eyesight/hand coordination to work with SMT devices, Bruce. I think what many of us are saying, is that type of construction is not for everyone. I have a nice Weller soldering station and a variety of tips for it, as well as

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Matt Maguire
My first experience with SMT was building a softrock multiband receiver kit. It is a hybrid through hole/SMT kit, with few different types of SMT devices. I really enjoyed building it, and learned a lot from it, and would recommend it to anyone wanting to dip their toe in the water, so to speak.

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Bruce Beford
I build all my SMT projects with my 30+ year old Weller WTCPT iron, and an Optivisor. Have been for years now. Bruce/N1RX Jim/ AD6CW wrote:More power to you and others who have the patience, equipment and eyesight/hand coordination to work with SMT devices, Bruce. I think what many of us are

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone? (Hand SMT---Never)

2014-07-20 Thread Phil Wheeler
Oh yes, that! I didn't think of it as SMT because it has four leads. Took me a while to figure out how to orient it, though. I sneezed and almost lost that critter. And I have two spares -- so mine is likely to last forever. Phil W7OX On 7/20/14, 5:30 PM, Matt Maguire wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-19 Thread David Gilbert
The only science I can think of has to do with propagation. It seems to me that 20m/40m would give the best overall opportunity for use hour by hour over the course of a full sunspot cycle. Everything else pretty much just boils down to personal preference or available space for antennas.

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-18 Thread mbyrd22
I am sad about the recent turn of events but not surprised. I bought the K1-2 band right after it was available with an extra 2 band board. When the 4 band board was introduced, I jumped on that purchase. I will probably buy a few of the 2 band boards before they are gone. I don't want any

[Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
All this talk about the K1 backlight led me to look back at the K1 order page. There is no option for a 4-band version, nor for the KFL1-4 4-band filter module itself. Is this an oversight, or has the 4-band board been discontinued? If so, when and why? Also if so, then the K1 description page

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Yes, Bruce, it looks like this: /T//he K1...A compact, high-performance CW rig that _you_ can build./ // /HF operation is more fun than ever these days--five watts is all you need to work worldwide DX. That's why we've packed up to four bands into our affordable, easy-to-build

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Gil G.
I emailed Elecraft about it and they said the 4-band module is unlikely to come back. http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,824.0.html Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On Jul 17, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Phil Wheeler w...@socal.rr.com wrote: needs an edit -- unless lack of a 4-band

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
This is sad news indeed. I have built a few K1s, and repaired a few for others. The 4 band board made for a very capable rig, without the swapping that the 2 band version requires. A redesign/reintroduction would be nice, but I imagine it's primarily a business decision, rather than strictly an

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Wheeler
Bummer -- and Lisa's exact words from that link were more definite and final: /The 4-band board was discontinued due to a part availability issue that was crucial to the functionality of the KF1-4. So no, it will not be coming back sorry to say./ The 4-band K1 is a really nice, small QRP

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Phil Hystad
And, here I was planning to get a 4-band K1 this fall. Yes, real Bummer. So, I figure that I could do one of the following: (1)Buy THREE 2-band K1 radios (saves on interchanging other bands). (2)Buy the Two band option board and get along with 4 bands. (3)Stick with

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread EricJ
Bad news...for those who don't have one. The K1-4 was my introduction to both Elecraft and purpose-built QRP rigs. It's easily in the top 3 favorite radios I have owned in half a century. I think Gil called it a cute mini K2 in the link below, and that's a pretty good description. It's big

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
The part that has become unavailable is the blue trimmer capacitors that are used for tuning the bandpass filters. That does *not* spell demise of the K1, but only the 4 band board. Yes, sorry that it is gone, but the K1 with a 2 band board and an extra 2 band board will give you 4 band

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Bruce, The 4-band module requires extremely low-temperature-coefficient trimmer capacitors because of its narrow-band pre-mix and RF band-pass filters. The last source for these exotic trimmers dried up recently. A redesign using higher-TC trimmers might be possible, but the filters would

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread John Cooper
What is the crucial part that caused this? Inquiring minds wanna know. WT5Y Sent from my Cricket smartphone Original message From: EricJ eric_c...@hotmail.com Date: 07/17/2014 13:32 (GMT-06:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Don Wilhelm
The K1 can remember the frequency offset settings for 6 bands, so having 3 2-band boards is quite practical. You get to choose which 2 bands go together on one board for most of your operating pleasure. 73, Don W3FPR On 7/17/2014 2:14 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: And, here I was planning to get a

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Bruce Beford
Thanks for taking the time to reply with the details, Wayne. It's a shame. I (and many others) feel the K1 has some advantages over the KX1, such as the analog VFO, higher output power, and 4-pole filtering. It's internal antenna matching unit also offers more tuning range than the KX1. I have

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Mike Morrow
Wayne wrote: The 4-band module requires extremely low-temperature-coefficient trimmer capacitors because of its narrow-band pre-mix and RF band-pass filters. The last source for these exotic trimmers dried up recently. If all the other parts of the KFL1-4 were still stocked, perhaps those

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
Here's another thought that perhaps one of us could put together: give up the internal battery space for a considerably larger filter board that could be used to allow room for additional 2 band style filters that don't share components (and, thus, don't need high-tolerance parts). No

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Mike Morrow
Don wrote: The K1 can remember the frequency offset settings for 6 bands... The K1 remembers the frequency display calibration settings (OFS) for all *nine* HF bands between 160m and 10m (60m is excluded), and automatically uses the one previously stored for a particular band when that band gets

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4 band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Mike Morrow
Jessie wrote: I'll have to give mine a close look for mechanical feasibility when I get home. It is not feasible. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] K1-4 4band version gone?

2014-07-17 Thread Joe W2KJ
Howdy Fellow Elecrafters: OK...it's so obvious even I figured it out. Notice that we have a KX1 and a KX3?? What happened to the KX2?? Well, read on. I predict the next new transceiver from Elecraft will render obsolete the K1-4 and KX1 obsolete...it will be called, obviously, the KX2. It

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