Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-10 Thread Charlie Blackham
CE marking Directives cover safety or health * There are no CE marking Directives that cover environmental protection * The rules don’t apply to products “sold”, they apply to products “placed on the market” – there doesn’t need to be a monetary exchange, and the lack of one does not put

Re: [PSES] [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-09 Thread Douglas Nix
an Economic Area (EEA). It demonstrates that a product complies with > the relevant EU directives and regulations. However, there are certain > conditions or situations where you should not apply the CE mark: > Non-conforming products: If your product does not meet the essential >

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-08 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
, and environmental protection standards for products sold within the European Economic Area (EEA). It demonstrates that a product complies with the relevant EU directives and regulations. However, there are certain conditions or situations where you should not apply the CE mark: 1. Non

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-07 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking Here’s what ChatGPT told me about this directive: The General Product Safety Directive (2001/95/EC) in the European Union (EU) is a legal framework designed to ensure the safety of consumer products placed

Re: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-10-06 Thread Ralph McDiarmid
Ralph From: Dürrer Bernd Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 6:44 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking Hello Brian, in lack of any more specific EU Directive, a product will be in the scope of the General Product Safety Directi

Re: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-09-19 Thread Chris Wordley
n the > sandpaper. It is as simple as that. > > Is there an EU Directive that covers this type of product and if so, is the > Directive part of the CE Scheme? I don't think there is but I am not > familiar with all of the EU Directives. > > > So why am I asking? B

[PSES] AW: [PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-09-19 Thread Dürrer Bernd
Id3>) that covers any product intended for consumers. As far as I know, the GPSD does neither require a CE Declaration of Conformity, nor CE marking on the product. An overview of EU Directives and applicable harmonized standards may be found at Harmonised Standards (europa.eu)<https://sing

[PSES] Directives that require the CE Marking

2023-09-19 Thread Brian Kunde
on the sandpaper. It is as simple as that. Is there an EU Directive that covers this type of product and if so, is the Directive part of the CE Scheme? I don't think there is but I am not familiar with all of the EU Directives. So why am I asking? Believe it or not, some Sales and Marketing types

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-15 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
rom Amazon come through the lab before. James From: Kunde, Brian Sent: 14 February 2019 20:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives. I've never understood why some people think that the solution

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
ns touches on all? product regulations/directives. I've never understood why some people think that the solution to people not following the rules can be solved by creating more rules. Studies have shown the the vast majority of non-compliances are lack of understanding low risk rules and no

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Ted Eckert
EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives. I've never understood why some people think that the solution to people not following the rules can be solved by creating more rules. Studies have shown the the vast majority of non-compliances are lack of understanding

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
out 100 page Directives followed up by 1000 page Guides to explain the 100 page Directives and still people do not know what is required for Compliance. Manufacturers have no direct interface with the rules makers. We cannot ask questions or ask for clarifications so we know how to do

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Lauren Crane
Woodgate Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 12:13 PM To: TEH EHS Crane, Lauren ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives. It looks like a move to regulate Amazon and similar sources. At present, in the UK at least

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread Chuck August-McDowell
evidence; From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 10:13 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives. It looks like a move to regulate Amazon and similar sources

Re: [PSES] New EU enforcement regulations touches on all? product regulations/directives.

2019-02-14 Thread John Woodgate
It looks like a move to regulate Amazon and similar sources. At present, in the UK at least, there is little surveillance of goods ordered in small quantities by members of the public, with the exception of medication and some medical products. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only

Re: [PSES] References to outdated EU directives

2017-10-10 Thread Charlie Blackham
James My understanding is that it is covered by an article is each newer directives, for example: Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC Article 25 Repeal Directive 98/37/EC is hereby repealed. References made to the repealed Directive shall be construed as being made to this Directive and should

Re: [PSES] References to outdated EU directives

2017-10-10 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
rences to outdated EU directives James My understanding is that it is covered by an article is each newer directives, for example: Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC Article 25 Repeal Directive 98/37/EC is hereby repealed. References made to the repealed Directive shall be construed as bein

[PSES] References to outdated EU directives

2017-10-10 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
to superseded directives are ignored and the latest versions used instead? Many thanks, James James Pawson Unit 3 Compliance - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-29 Thread Stephen Whalen
scope of the end-use equipment.         Brian         From: Stephen Whalen [mailto:scwha...@bellsouth.net]     Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:42 AM     To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG     Subject: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives         All,     I am trying to ide

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Scott Xe
2 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives All, I am trying to identify the necessary EU standards and directives for rechargeable lithium batteries for small electronic devices. Any help would be gre

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Dale Reid
south.net> wrote: > All, > I am trying to identify the necessary EU standards and directives for > rechargeable lithium batteries for small electronic devices. Any help > would be greatly appreciated

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Brian O'Connell
. Determine if separate charger standard is normative for the scope of the end-use equipment. Brian From: Stephen Whalen [mailto:scwha...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 11:42 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives All, I

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Brian O'Connell
- [mailto:msherma...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 12:01 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives Start with 62133, but understand that it takes far more than this for a safe battery/charger system. The technology

Re: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
: October 28, 2016 at 1:49 PMSubject: [PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives All,I am trying to identify the necessary EU standards and directives for rechargeable lithium batteries for small electronic devices.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.   Regards,Stephen

[PSES] Rechargeable lithium battery EU Standards/Directives

2016-10-28 Thread Stephen Whalen
All,I am trying to identify the necessary EU standards and directives for rechargeable lithium batteries for small electronic devices.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.    Regards,Stephen - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-26 Thread Nick Williams
http://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/index_en.htm > On 25 Aug 2016, at 21:45, Jim Hulbert <jim.hulb...@pb.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I am interested in understanding how stringent the enforcement of CE marking > directives is within the

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-26 Thread Charlie Blackham
d EU wide Market Surveillance reports for R on http://ec.europa.eu/growth/sectors/electrical-engineering/rtte-directive_en Regards Charlie From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: 25 August 2016 21:46 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-25 Thread Chuck August-McDowell
: 510-540-4670 From: John Woodgate [mailto:jmw1...@btinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 2:55 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives The stringency, and the enforcement procedures, vary in the different Member States. For example

Re: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-25 Thread John Woodgate
yleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim.hulb...@pb.com] Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 9:46 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives Hi, I am interested in understanding how stringent the enforcement of CE m

[PSES] EU Enforcement of CE Marking Directives

2016-08-25 Thread Jim Hulbert
Hi, I am interested in understanding how stringent the enforcement of CE marking directives is within the EU. Is there someplace where we can find enforcement actions that have been taken against companies for placing products on the market that don't fully meet the applicable Directives? I

[PSES] COTS Power supply adapters and the new LVD / EMC directives

2016-04-11 Thread Amund Westin
Manufacturers (A) who makes DC low voltage driven products, often buy a Power supply adapter (AC/DC) from a PSU manufacture (B) and include it in the shipment for the complete product. Under the new LVD & EMC regime, is it required that the manufacturer A have to follow up manufacturer B, in the

Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-08 Thread John Woodgate
In message blupr02mb116e1fc892b303bd03ee106c1...@blupr02mb116.namprd02.prod.outlook .com, dated Tue, 7 Apr 2015, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com writes: Have a customer that wants 2004/40/EC on the D of C. The declaration that was provided listed the EMC, ROHS and LVD, and cited the

Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-08 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
[mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:52 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment In message trinity-95f7c65c-0262-4fcc-9a69-97da1c16863c-1428481049108@3capp-mailcom -lxa16, dated Wed, 8 Apr 2015, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com

Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-08 Thread John Woodgate
In message trinity-95f7c65c-0262-4fcc-9a69-97da1c16863c-1428481049108@3capp-mailcom -lxa16, dated Wed, 8 Apr 2015, Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com writes: 2004/40/EC is an 'environmental' directive applied to a working environment and placing certain responsibilities on employers, not an

Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-08 Thread Anthony Thomson
out So unless they are health-screening end users, they cant even comply with said directive. Square peg, round hole springs to mind here. Tony Sent:Tuesday, April 07, 2015 at 11:15 PM From:Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:[PSES] directives

[PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-07 Thread Brian Oconnell
Good People, Have a customer that wants 2004/40/EC on the D of C. The declaration that was provided listed the EMC, ROHS and LVD, and cited the respective harmonized standards per the OJ. Because 2004/40/EC is not a marking directive, and the equipment is not an intentional radiator, would

Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-07 Thread Charlie Blackham
Brian 2004/40/EC doesn't apply to products. Human exposure to EM fields from products is covered by product directives such as RTTE, LVD and Machinery. Most unintentional transmitters are inherently compliant - you might want to have a look at EN 62479. Regards Charlie -Original Message

Re: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment

2015-04-07 Thread Knighten, Jim L
) -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 3:16 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] directives for ITE equipment Good People, Have a customer that wants 2004/40/EC on the D of C. The declaration that was provided listed

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread Anthony Thomson
From:Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com To:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:Re: [PSES] New EU Directives Thanks! What is the major impact on own brand labelers? Regards, Scott On 6/6/14 5:53 am, T.Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 00:49:58 +0800, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Derby
, in particular, of the non-compliance and of any corrective measures taken. Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 June 2014 16:20 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 20af01cf83c0$8988ff10$9c9afd30$@acbcert.com, dated Mon, 9 Jun 2014, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com writes: When deemed appropriate with regard to the risks presented by radio equipment, importers shall, to protect the health and safety of end-users, So the RED, unlike the

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread Michael Derby
) Directives do not apply to that device. Similarly with the RED, it includes EMC and Safety, so the EMC Directive and the Safety Directive will continue not to apply to radio products. However, the EMC and Safety requirements within the RTTE and RE Directives are equivalent to the requirements

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-09 Thread Scott Xe
know if it's a 'must see'. Regards, Tony Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 at 4:20 PM From: Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New EU Directives Thanks! What is the major impact on own brand labelers? Regards, Scott On 6/6/14 5:53 am, T.Sato vef00

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Xe
Thanks! What is the major impact on own brand labelers? Regards, Scott On 6/6/14 5:53 am, T.Sato vef00...@nifty.ne.jp wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 00:49:58 +0800, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any reason behind to have LVD, EMC and RTTE directives updated in similar time

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Xe
and RTTE directives updated in similar time? On RTTE, the changes are quite significant. There are more than those being updated. This is for complicated legal reasons, and in some cases the Commission has found that the Directives were not effective in keeping non-compliant products out

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message cfb7fd26.1eefe%scott...@gmail.com, dated Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com writes: Thanks! What is the major impact on own brand labelers? Either the original manufacturer's name and address must be on the product label or the own-brand company has to accept the full

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-06 Thread T.Sato
On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:20:06 +0800, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! What is the major impact on own brand labelers? NLF directives such as 2014/30/EU defines manufacturer as any natural or legal person who manufactures apparatus or **has apparatus designed or manufactured

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Xe
: Thanks! What is the major impact on own brand labelers? NLF directives such as 2014/30/EU defines manufacturer as any natural or legal person who manufactures apparatus or **has apparatus designed or manufactured, and markets that apparatus under his name or trade mark** ; The new Blue Guide

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-05 Thread Scott Xe
Is there any reason behind to have LVD, EMC and RTTE directives updated in similar time? On RTTE, the changes are quite significant. Thanks and regards, Scott On 27/5/14 5:08 pm, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com wrote: The EMC and LV Directives are Œre-casts¹, so there should not be much

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-05 Thread John Woodgate
In message cfb6c0b6.1eed7%scott...@gmail.com, dated Fri, 6 Jun 2014, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com writes: Is there any reason behind to have LVD, EMC and RTTE directives updated in similar time? On RTTE, the changes are quite significant. There are more than those being updated

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-06-05 Thread T.Sato
On Fri, 6 Jun 2014 00:49:58 +0800, Scott Xe scott...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any reason behind to have LVD, EMC and RTTE directives updated in similar time? To align them with NLF, all the new approach directives which were not aligned with NLF were/will be updated even if no other changes

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-05-27 Thread Michael Derby
The EMC and LV Directives are 're-casts', so there should not be much in the way of technical changes. For the RTTE Directive, that is being phased out and replaced with the Radio Equipment Directive which was published last week. There should be plenty of changes for radio products

[PSES] New EU Directives

2014-05-23 Thread Jim Hulbert
I will of course investigate on my own. But is anything shockingly changed in the new EMC, LVD, and RTTE Directives? Or for most of us will it simply mean updating our Declarations of Conformity? Jim Hulbert Pitney Bowes

Re: [PSES] New EU Directives

2014-05-23 Thread John Woodgate
In message 7B9D892F88F070469771832D78B3086E282CFB68@013-BR1MPN1-011.MGDPBI.global.p vt, dated Fri, 23 May 2014, Jim Hulbert jim.hulb...@pb.com writes: I will of course investigate on my own.  But is anything shockingly changed in the new EMC, LVD, and RTTE Directives?  Depends what you

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)

2014-04-11 Thread Anthony Thomson
: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2008:260:0013: 0059:en:PDF -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)

2014-04-11 Thread Ed Price
Why obviously, it then gets posted to YouTube. Ed Price WB6WSN Chula Vista, CA USA From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything) John's right

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)

2014-04-11 Thread Brian Oconnell
for the Chief Conspirator From: Anthony Thomson [mailto:ton...@europe.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:55 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything) John's right, Google knows where it is, and I can't help wondering what it finds

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)

2014-04-11 Thread Douglas Nix
)) - Original Message - From: John Woodgate Sent: 04/10/14 04:32 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is. http://eur

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything)

2014-04-11 Thread Brian Oconnell
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives (Google Knows Everything) Anthony: 1) If you have top secret stuff on your web server in the first place, that's actually the problem and not what Google's spiders can find, and 2) That's what the robots.txt file is for. All you need to do

[PSES] PED and TPED Directives

2014-04-10 Thread Rick Busche
I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. This document is referenced by Directive 2010/35/EU Transportable Pressure Equipment (TPED). A related document is Directive 93/23//EC Pressure Equipment Directive (PED). I have an

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives

2014-04-10 Thread Crane, Lauren
-Tencor From: Rick Busche [mailto:rick.bus...@qnergy.com] Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 10:26 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. This document is referenced

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives

2014-04-10 Thread John Woodgate
In message 92aded8653d74e889981536852f95...@blupr01mb147.prod.exchangelabs.com, dated Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Rick Busche rick.bus...@qnergy.com writes: I seem to have difficulty locating a copy of Directive 2008/68/EC Inland Transport of Dangerous Goods. Google knows where it is.

Re: [PSES] PED and TPED Directives

2014-04-10 Thread Nick Williams
Not answering the question, but may be helpful: The TPED is seen as the more stringent set of requirements. Conventionally, a Pi marked (i.e. TPED compliant) vessel may be installed in a CE marked pressure assembly without need for separate certification (CE marking) under the PED. The reverse

Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-10-01 Thread John Woodgate
In message 20130930182145.2fbc841068a20b9c2f20986d48de9122.8fa96c0d5f.wbe@email02.s ecureserver.net, dated Mon, 30 Sep 2013, m...@belsher1.com writes: I think this is a wake up call for manufacturers to be more diligent in even minute details like the markings. I agree with all your points.

Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-30 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives. In message 736595a391c14c7fb5e9bd9425b6b...@blupr03mb119.namprd03.prod.outlook.commailto:736595a391c14c7fb5e9bd9425b6b...@blupr03mb119.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 27

Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-30 Thread John Woodgate
In message 3f0347ac6ed9504191f91f07629fbb0c01629...@thhsle14mbx2.hslive.net, dated Mon, 30 Sep 2013, Charlie Blackham char...@sulisconsultants.com writes: You would hope that would be the case, but reports from manufacturers suggest that some enforcement authorities are being somewhat

Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-30 Thread Anthony Thomson
This was inevitable. Manufacturers and importers (many, not all) can't be trusted to supply Directive compliant product into Europe. National Authorities (EU countries) can't be trusted to enforce the Directives for incoming goods. So now the EU Commission is legislating enforcement

Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-30 Thread Nathan Belsher
moving without market disruptions. It will happen.Regards,Nathan Belsher Regulatory Compliance Engineer Original Message Subject: Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives. From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Date: Mon

[PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
For those who have a penchant for developing regulations, or have legal or policy groups you can set on the challenges, the EU is rapidly working on a new market surveillance regulation that will amend all CE marking directives and a bit more. The base Commission proposal as well as the 300

Re: [PSES] FYI - EU Market Surveillance Regulation will impact all CE marking Directives.

2013-09-27 Thread John Woodgate
In message 736595a391c14c7fb5e9bd9425b6b...@blupr03mb119.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Fri, 27 Sep 2013, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: The base Commission proposal as well as the 300+ amendments being considered by Parliament have some pretty alarming provisions (e.g.,

[PSES] Directives applicable to ITEq

2013-09-11 Thread Pete Perkins
All, Since I move between equipment types regularly it's a good time to review the EU Directives that apply to ITEq and confirm which are needed on the DoC. Of course the LVD has ben applicable all along as has bhe EMC Dirctive. Please confirm the date the RoHS is a CE DoC

Re: [PSES] Directives applicable to ITEq

2013-09-11 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
. - Original Message - From: Pete Perkins peperkin...@cs.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:23:23 PM Subject: [PSES] Directives applicable to ITEq All, Since I move between equipment types regularly it's a good time to review the EU

[PSES] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives

2013-08-27 Thread Scott Xe
The categories of EEE are almost identical except item 11 in RoHS. Is there a particular reason not to include item 11 of RoHS in WEEE? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering

Re: [PSES] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives

2013-08-27 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
scott...@gmail.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:46:50 AM Subject: [PSES] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives The categories of EEE are almost identical except item 11 in RoHS.  Is there a particular reason not to include item 11 of RoHS in WEEE? Thanks

Re: [PSES] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives

2013-08-27 Thread Crane, Lauren
] Recast WEEE and RoHS Directives The categories of EEE are almost identical except item 11 in RoHS. Is there a particular reason not to include item 11 of RoHS in WEEE? Thanks and regards, Scott - This message is from the IEEE

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-21 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
about the environment. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Brian Oconnell Verzonden: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:12 AM Aan: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: EU NLF directives I may have missed something really big - probably English

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-21 Thread John Woodgate
specific instances to have them clarified. So what other legislation allows me to ignore these regs? They simply aren't addressed to you. You need to look at the amended Directives. Are EU regs available in Klingon? Some seem to have been imperfectly translated from that language. -- OOO - Own

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-21 Thread John Woodgate
In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA4891404C6@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Tue, 21 Feb 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: new EMCD proposal 2011/0351 (read article 14 and annex II and III)

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-21 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Onderwerp: Re: EU NLF directives In message FCA549BE3ECF9D4CB8CB8576837EA4891404C6@ZEUS.cetest.local, dated Tue, 21 Feb 2012, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl writes: new EMCD proposal 2011/0351 (read article 14 and annex II and III) http://eur-lex.europa.eu

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-21 Thread Brian Oconnell
Subject: RE: EU NLF directives Thanks John for finding this little mistake: Corrected URL: new LVD proposal 2011/357 (read Annex III : module A is the only option left http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2011:0773:FIN:EN:P DF Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
To: Rick Linford; oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: EU NLF directives Right, Self declaration remains the basis of the system, the responsibilities and accreditation requirements are for notified bodies called conformity assessment body Both EMC and LVD proposals

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-20 Thread Nick Williams
to understand this, others have made the same mistake. However, in practice what it means is that if you are a manufacturer, you can essentially ignore the NLF and focus on what is in the directives and regulations themselves. Competence is not legislated for in any of the New Approach directives

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-20 Thread Brian Oconnell
Bunny Brian -Original Message- From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:13 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: EU NLF directives Brian, The answer to your second question is 'no'. With respect

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-18 Thread Brian Oconnell
Of Samuel Lifshutz Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:23 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; Emc-Pstc (E-mail) Subject: RE: EU NLF directives Brian: The following is omitted from the summary: - Gather and evaluate recast RoHS compliance data - Assure Internal Production Control for recast RoHS

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-18 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Aan: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: EU NLF directives Hi Brian, I don't recall #10 Self declaration may no longer be possible for anything scoped by RoHS, LVD, and/or EMCD., being implied or suggested in anything crossing my disk so far. What sources might

[PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
reference this: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/regulatory-poli cies-common-rules-for-products/new-legislative-framework/ Doing some reading in prep for RoHS recast reporting. After reading the NLF regs (765/2008, 768/2008) and the proposals for LVD and EMCD recast,

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-17 Thread Samuel Lifshutz
-Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:47 PM To: Emc-Pstc (E-mail) Subject: EU NLF directives reference this: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/regulatory-poli cies

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-17 Thread Rick Linford
- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:47 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: EU NLF directives reference this: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/policies/single-market-goods/regulatory-poli cies-common-rules-for-products/new-legislative

Re: [PSES] EU NLF directives

2012-02-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
a company-generated TCF and declaration. Brian -Original Message- From: Rick Linford [mailto:rlinf...@sonicwall.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 2:05 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: EU NLF directives Hi Brian, I don't recall #10 Self

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-11 Thread Ian White (UK)
[mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 10 January 2012 20:38 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: EU Directives versus Regulations In message cb234002531f0a12968a0706d8a60...@mail.gmail.com, dated Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message BA0B2BB5A0824349962ECE6D5E7A0D65041958CC4D@EXMBX01.iconnect.world, dated Wed, 11 Jan 2012, Ian White (UK) ian.wh...@uk.spiraxsarco.com writes: Sorry John l think you are giving the wrong impression here . I don't think so. It's quite normal for anything bad about the EU to be

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-11 Thread John Woodgate
In message e68a9cfcef7bdce59cab64895d6ee...@mail.gmail.com, dated Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: Thank you for the responses. 305/2011/EU states 89/106/EEC is repealed upon publication of 305/2011/EU. At present there are no harmonized standards applicable

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-11 Thread Peter Tarver
From: John Woodgate Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 00:58 10 Jan 2012, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com writes: snip At present there are no harmonized standards applicable to 305/2011/EU snip Where does one find a list of harmonized standards associated with a

[PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Tarver
The Construction Product Regulation (305/2011/EU) is replacing the Construction Product Directive (89/106/EEC). Is there a palpable difference between an EU Directive and a Regulation? Some fewer whereases, but the look and feel is the same. Regards, Peter L. Tarver This email message is for

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-10 Thread John Woodgate
Directive and a Regulation? Some fewer whereases, but the look and feel is the same. Yes, profound. Directives have to be embodied into the national laws of each member state, which means, in most countries, going through a Parliamentary process, however desultory. But Regulations, prepared

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-10 Thread Nick Williams
The key difference is that Regulations take direct effect in the member states of the EU and do not require national legislation to implement them. Nick On 10 Jan 2012, at 19:54, Peter Tarver ptar...@enphaseenergy.com wrote: The Construction Product Regulation (305/2011/EU) is replacing the

Re: [PSES] EU Directives versus Regulations

2012-01-10 Thread Peter Tarver
Thank you for the responses. 305/2011/EU states 89/106/EEC is repealed upon publication of 305/2011/EU. At present there are no harmonized standards applicable to 305/2011/EU that I could locate, but http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/sectors/construction/legislation/index_en.h tm contains a link

RE: Automotive and normal EMC directives overlap standard

2009-10-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Nick Williams Sent: 09 October 2009 10:38 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Automotive and normal EMC directives overlap standard The Commission guide to the EMC Directive (2004/108/EC) states: Equipment satisfying the requirements for exemption of type approval under

Re: Automotive and normal EMC directives overlap standard

2009-10-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Nick, prEN 50498. Out for vote as a final draft. Deadline for voting is 6th November. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Luke Turnbull Dr Luke Turnbull EMC Technical Manager TRW Conekt Stratford Road Solihull West Midlands B90 4GW Tel:+44 (0)121.627.3966 email:

Automotive and normal EMC directives overlap standard

2009-10-09 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
The Commission guide to the EMC Directive (2004/108/EC) states: Equipment satisfying the requirements for exemption of type approval under the motor vehicle EMC directive must meet the essential requirements of 2004/108/EC in addition to the requirements of Annex I paragraphs 6.5, 6.6, 6.8 and

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