Hi All,
not to steal from Davids needs, but I’m looking for an MIL STD 461 EMI
technician that’s a US Citizen for the Oklahoma City area.
I don’t have a job positing yet, but please feel free to contact me off list
and I’ll brief more whats being looked for.
Now back to Davids needs,
Thanks
1. IEC 61000-4-18:2019 - Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Part 4-18:
Testing and measurement techniques - Damped oscillatory wave immunity test
2. MIL-STD 461, CS116, conducted susceptibility, damped sinusoidal
transients, cables and power
Are these two tests quite different
ltering and
> shielding from that point on. But that isn’t a typical installation, either.
>
> Ken Javor
> Phone: (256) 650-5261
>
>
> --
> *From: *Patrick
> *Date: *Tue, 15 Jan 2019 15:52:00 -0700
> *To: *Ken Javor
> *Cc: *
> *Subje
For the record the reason that MIL-STD-461 forbids using shielded power
wires for EMI testing is because even if a particular load gets shielded
power from the pointof-distribution (circuit breaker or fuse box), that
doesn¹t means the electrical power bus between the point-of-generation and
was inserted in
> “F” and retained in “G.”
>
> Ken Javor
> Phone: (256) 650-5261
>
>
>
> --
> *From: *Patrick
> *Reply-To: *Patrick
> *Date: *Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:19:32 -0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-461 and power c
below
and that is why the blanket prohibition against shielding was inserted in
³F² and retained in ³G.²
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
From: Patrick
Reply-To: Patrick
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2019 14:19:32 -0700
To:
Subject: Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-461 and power cables sanity check
( not really
t;
>
> *From:* Ken Javor
> *Sent:* 15 January 2019 15:34
> *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-461 and power cables sanity check
>
>
>
> The issue is with primary power: that supplied by the platform to
> electrical and electronic loads.
Hi Ken,
That makes sense, thanks for the clarification.
James
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To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] MIL-STD-461 and power cables sanity check
The issue is with primary power: that supplied by the platform to electrical
and
15 Jan 2019 08:21:24 -
To:
Subject: [PSES] MIL-STD-461 and power cables sanity check
Hello all,
MIL-STD-461 has a requirement for any conductors in a cable assembly
carrying ³primary power² i.e. AC power from a vessel distribution bus to be
separated out from the main cable bunch and routed
Hello all,
MIL-STD-461 has a requirement for any conductors in a cable assembly
carrying "primary power" i.e. AC power from a vessel distribution bus to be
separated out from the main cable bunch and routed separately in a test
setup (clause 4.3.8.6). It also states that the pri
have the -461F Table III.
Ken Javor
Phone: (256) 650-5261
> From: "Airy, Chad"
> Reply-To: "Airy, Chad"
> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 16:49:47 -0800
> To:
> Conversation: Table III Susceptibility Scanning; MIL STD 461 E vs F
> Subject: [PSES] Table III Susce
Chad Airy asks:
Will someone please give a little of the rationale for the changes in
rev E vs F of Table III, Susceptibility Scanning.
I suspect we need look no further than Appendix A 40.3.10.4.1
(4.3.10.4.1) Frequency scanni
Historical Question,
Will someone please give a little of the rationale for the changes in rev E vs
F of Table III, Susceptibility Scanning.
Thanks
Chad
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Ken, wouldn't the level at the output of the 3dB filter be about 1dB greater
than the 6dB filter, if signal is broadband compared the BW? Isn't energy
related to
Re: [PSES] Spectrum analyzers for MIL-STD-461 CE101?
If memory serves, the difference between opt 462 IBW and 3 dB BW was a
factor of 1.5. Meaning that the IBW rating of a filter originally spec'd at
3 dB points was 1.5 times the 3 dB BW.
Now if you
dB BW spec'd, then you will have all the info you
need to know.
Ken Javor
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> Hi,
>
> I need to rent a spectrum analyzer for performing MIL-STD-461 CE101 tests.
> Although the requirements go down to 30Hz, I only need to start at 100Hz.
>
> After sifting out analyzers with f
Hi,
I need to rent a spectrum analyzer for performing MIL-STD-461 CE101 tests.
Although the requirements go down to 30Hz, I only need to start at 100Hz.
After sifting out analyzers with frequency range limits, and those with
-3dB IF bandwidth specifications, I keep coming back to the
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Has anyone got (or know of) a comparison between DEFSTAN 59-41 and MIL-STD 461
(any versions, but preferably recent), that ideally covers the Land Use
aspects of the standards?
I know the UK MoD will accept 461 tested equipment, but for an RFQ it is
better to respond with some technical
thank you to everybody who replied me on the forum and off-list.
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> Dear group,
> I would like to get the old broadband and narrowband RE limit tables of the
> superseded MIL STD 461C, for teaching purposes.
> Could anybody tell me where to find a pdf of t
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>Dear group,
>I would like to get the old bro
Dear group,
I would like to get the old broadband and narrowband RE limit tables of the
superseded MIL STD 461C, for teaching purposes.
Could anybody tell me where to find a pdf of that standard?
Thanks,
Paolo
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Other than they are both EMC test requirements, the difference is night and
day. The MIL-STD-461 tests are:
Much more severe/sensitive
Cover much wider frequency bands
Are typically done with different equipment. The MIL Radiated Immunity
tests use 8 different antennas, EN61326-1 uses 1.
The
Folks,
We have received an inquiry, concerning on the key differences
between the test requirements of
MIL-STD -461 and EN61326-1.
Can someone familiar with these two stds provide some details on
these different test requirements.
Your input would
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Dear Group,
Where can I download MIL-STD-461/462 from the internet
Paul,
Try this page.
http://astimage.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/
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Dear Group,
Where can I download MIL-STD-461/462 from the internet?
Thanks in Advance
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Hi,
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Subject: RE: copper properties & MIL-STD 461 & 462
Hi All,
I followed the links, got registered and, with my user ID logged on so I
could muddle around to find the document. Once I had it displayed on my
desktop, I tried to save it to disk. That option was not available. So
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> Jose:
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> The best source of info
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>
>
>
> Dear group:
>
> I have two questions:
>
> 1) Where can I find shielding properties of copper (sheets)?
>
> 2) Where can I find
Jose:
The best source of information about MIL-STD-461 is the standard itself. All
of the requirements are defined very thoroughly (well, maybe not so thorough
for Methods CS103, CS104 & CS105) within the document, and an Appendix A is
provided which gives you a discussion of the purp
thout the accompanying
spiel and hands-on test experience, but if you have specific questions, I do
have the answers.
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Dear group:
I have two questions:
1) Where can I find shielding properties of copper (sheets)?
2) Where can I find information about test method of MIL-STD 461 & MIL-STD 462?
Thank you
Jose Miguel Rio
Advanced Shielding Technologies
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Ed
From: "Brumbaugh, David"
Subject: RE: MIL-STD-461 C vs D
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 13:02:10 -0800
To: 'emc-pstc' , "'ed.pr...@cubic.com'"
> As I understand it, 461E will simply merge 461 and 462 into a single
> interface stand
From: Anthony Guinto
Subject: Re: MIL-STD-461 C vs D
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 13:51:23 -0800
To: "Brumbaugh, David" , 'emc-pstc'
> Hello
>
> Here is the basics on 461D
>
> MIL-STD-461 D
> EMI
> CE101 replaces CE01
&
As I understand it, 461E will simply merge 461 and 462 into a single interface
standard. There is no plan to change the requirements or test methods unless
there is a very compelling reason to do so.
DB
> All those still studying 461D/462D will be very happy to know that drafts of
> 461E are
From: "Brumbaugh, David"
Subject: MIL-STD-461 C vs D
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1998 07:34:44 -0800
To: 'emc-pstc'
> Hi group,
> Here's one for all of you that make products for US military/gov't
> customers:
>
> I was
Hello
Here is the basics on 461D
MIL-STD-461 D
EMI
CE101 replaces CE01
CE102 up to 10MHz No Narrow or Wide band only Peak Band.
CE03 test is gone
CE07 test is gone
CS101 replaces CS01
CS02 test is gone
CS06 test is gone
CS114 Bulk Current Injection is combo replacement of CS02 whole sprectrum
Hi group,
Here's one for all of you that make products for US military/gov't
customers:
I was reviewing MIL-STD-461D (I know, a little late to be commenting at this
point) and I noticed that although CS101 in -461D corresponds to CS01 in
-461C, there is no counterpart to -461C's CS02 requirement.
On Fri, 9 May 1997 08:34:50 +0200, you wrote:
>When performing the emission test RE102 according to MIL-STD-461/462D we
>observe that the test system noise floor is at some frequencies just
>below the most stringent limit (navy mobile and army). This is when we
>use the bandwidths p
--- On Fri, 9 May 1997 08:34:50 +0200 "Heck, Stefan"
wrote:
>System requirements for RE102
>
>When performing the emission test RE102 according to MIL-STD-461/462D we
>observe that the test system noise floor is at some frequencies just
>below the most stringent li
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ST>Subject: MIL-STD-461/462D, RE102, noisefloor
ST>System requirements for RE102
ST>When performing the emission test RE102 according to MIL-STD-461/462D we
ST>observe that the test system noise floor is
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System requirements for RE102
When performing the emission test RE102 according to MIL-STD-461/462D we
observe that the test system noise floor is at some frequencies just
below the most stringent limit (navy mobile and army). This is when we
use the bandwidths prescribed by the standard. We can
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