Re: [Emc-users] variable reluctance motors

2013-05-04 Thread N. Christopher Perry
As I said, trying to align injected harmonic content to a signal in real-time with the required accuracy, while the fundamental frequency is rapidly changing, is not algorithmically possible given existing control schemes. Even if you could figure out how to fix that, no one has come up with a

Re: [Emc-users] IKEA Jansö lights

2013-05-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
I had a 1950's articulated brass desk lamp on top of a PC tower, with a bookcase at the end of the desk, on which sat an IBM badged HP pen plotter. While hooking up the serial cable it slipped out of my fingers and touched the lamp base and the port on the plotter simultaneously. KAPOW! 120

[Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi All, I have a problem on a machine that is confusing me (not to difficult to do these days). It is a servo system using mesa 5i23 and 7i33 cards. I have calibrated the x axis and during testing I find that the x axis will go from the home position (using G0 x6000) to the correct distance.

Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q?

2013-05-04 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 03 May 2013 11:10:12 -0500, you wrote: In a motor designed for reversible use, the brushes also need to be exactly centered on the poles of the field magnets. I would guess yours are rotated a bit to compensate for the inductance of the armature windings delaying the reversal of the

Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q?

2013-05-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Sat, 5/4/13, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Ahh that explains it. It's a permanent magnet motor and it would be easy to move them or the end case around a bit.  It's no big deal for me - never use it in reverse anyway. I've a couple of Tapmatic self reversing tapping heads

Re: [Emc-users] [OT} 200mpg car (Was: converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-05-04 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Fri, 3 May 2013 12:29:37 +0100, you wrote: -Original Message- From: Stephen Dubovsky [mailto:smdubov...@gmail.com] I've stayed out of this but... A 200mpg car exists. VW called it the 1L project trimmed So not only possible, but 200mpg is old news. SMD To clarify, I was

Re: [Emc-users] [OT} 200mpg car (Was: converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-05-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Ben Potter b...@bpuk.org wrote: I clearly hadn't had my morning cuppa when I sat down with that lot - since the frontal area is wrong too. 0.79 is closer and gives 77% efficiency required for a US 200 mpg. The original would be a reasonable for a bus. Well, not

Re: [Emc-users] [OT} 200mpg car (Was: converting Monarch 10EE)

2013-05-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
Sorry, meant to show this pic On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Ben Potter b...@bpuk.org wrote: I clearly hadn't had my morning cuppa when I sat down with that lot - since the frontal area is wrong too.

Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q?

2013-05-04 Thread Gary Corlew
On 5/4/2013 4:38 AM, Gregg Eshelman wrote: --- On Sat, 5/4/13, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Ahh that explains it. It's a permanent magnet motor and it would be easy to move them or the end case around a bit. It's no big deal for me - never use it in reverse anyway. I've a

Re: [Emc-users] Silly Q?

2013-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 May 2013 08:05:46 Steve Blackmore did opine: On Fri, 03 May 2013 11:10:12 -0500, you wrote: In a motor designed for reversible use, the brushes also need to be exactly centered on the poles of the field magnets. I would guess yours are rotated a bit to compensate for the

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Todd Zuercher
Issues with the encoder, most likely electrical interference or a grounding problem. Are the encoder cables shielded, the motor power cables shielded, are they ran seperately? - Original Message - Hi All, I have a problem on a machine that is confusing me (not to difficult to do

Re: [Emc-users] variable reluctance motors

2013-05-04 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
W/ DQ control most of these problems become FAR simpler problems to deal with. But at that point you might as well go 'whole hog' and servo an induction motor. VR motors are attractive becasue they use cheap simple controls. Once you need a real processor an induction machine does a better

[Emc-users] Baldor powerlink driver

2013-05-04 Thread john d norton
Hi every one I have some baldor servos and drives they are the microflex e100 and are controlled via Ethernet powerlink does anybody know of a driver for such drive or maybe fancy a challenge with it I know there has been some work with Ethernet powerlink and linuxcnc but I only saw io being

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 4 May 2013, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 09:08:40 +0200 From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis Hi

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 May 2013 08:08, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: It has a linear overshoot across the range but just in one direction. What version of LinuxCNC are you running? The reason I ask is that encoder noise is a likely cause, and that this commit:

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Todd They are pre-made cables from Omron. Very good shielding. I have changed the motor/encoder already and the drive. All the motor and encoder cables runs together for all the axis (5) and only this one does it. I have a feeling it must be software related. On 2013/05/04 02:52 PM, Todd

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Andy, I run 2.5.2 on that machine. As I mentioned before, I did change the motor/encoder but the problem stays. I thought it might be a damaged encode because it only effects the feedback in one direction. Is halscope the only way to see what the cause could be? It might be difficult to see

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 4 May 2013, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Date: Sat, 04 May 2013 09:08:40 +0200 From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis Hi

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 May 2013 17:45, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: difficult to see because the error is +/- 1% of the total travel and in one direction only. Is the error in measured position or indicated position? Does either of the commanded position / actual position show the expected

[Emc-users] Blown fuses on 7i39 cards

2013-05-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! I have 5 pieces of 7i39LV cards and it seems that I have managed to blow 10A fuses on all of them, probably motors are too powerful for the drives. What kind of trouble am I getting, if I would replace fuses with higher current rating? Servo motors are rated at 8A, so both motors

Re: [Emc-users] Blown fuses on 7i39 cards

2013-05-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 4 May 2013, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 22:16:14 +0300 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

[Emc-users] Permission in Linux

2013-05-04 Thread Bruce Klawiter
I know very little about Linux and once in a while it ask for permission or some such thing when I am copying, changing or moving files. Just now I tried to copy a folder to an SSD and it says it can't because I am not the owner, I am the owner what the heck it it talking about. How do I tell

Re: [Emc-users] Permission in Linux

2013-05-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/5/4 Bruce Klawiter bmkl...@yahoo.com I know very little about Linux and once in a while it ask for permission or some such thing when I am copying, changing or moving files. Just now I tried to copy a folder to an SSD and it says it can't because I am not the owner, I am the owner what

Re: [Emc-users] Blown fuses on 7i39 cards

2013-05-04 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/5/4 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com Both motors should draw 16 A only if they are both at full torque and full speed simultaneouly. I suspect some of your troubles are due to trying to run high speed motors with 1 KHz commutation (for the 7I39 and a few thousand RPM I would suggest

Re: [Emc-users] Permission in Linux

2013-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 May 2013 16:58:39 Bruce Klawiter did opine: I know very little about Linux and once in a while it ask for permission or some such thing when I am copying, changing or moving files. Just now I tried to copy a folder to an SSD and it says it can't because I am not the owner, I am

Re: [Emc-users] Blown fuses on 7i39 cards

2013-05-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 4 May 2013, Viesturs L?cis wrote: Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 23:27:13 +0300 From: [UTF-8] Viesturs L?cis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject:

[Emc-users] A 1 HP treadmill motor on a 7x12

2013-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
Hi guys; That motor kit fell off one of those little square USPS vehicles today, so now I've had an hour or so to play. 1. The brushes are a full 45 degrees from the magnets, so it doesn't run as well in reverse. Nor does it feel like that hiuge flywheel is moving much air when running

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Gregg Eshelman
--- On Sat, 5/4/13, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: From: Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za I run 2.5.2 on that machine. As I mentioned before, I did change the motor/encoder but the problem stays. I thought it might be a damaged encode because it only effects the

Re: [Emc-users] A 1 HP treadmill motor on a 7x12

2013-05-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 May 2013 23:21, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: = 1. The brushes are a full 45 degrees from the magnets, so it doesn't run as well in reverse. 3. If reverse so the fan pulley is on the left, and I build a jackshaft that places the OEM toothed pulley in the same location as the

Re: [Emc-users] A 1 HP treadmill motor on a 7x12

2013-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 May 2013 20:48:13 andy pugh did opine: On 4 May 2013 23:21, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: = 1. The brushes are a full 45 degrees from the magnets, so it doesn't run as well in reverse. 3. If reverse so the fan pulley is on the left, and I build a jackshaft

Re: [Emc-users] A 1 HP treadmill motor on a 7x12

2013-05-04 Thread andy pugh
On 5 May 2013 02:25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: It seems to me that moving the brushes would be a better solution. I'll look again tomorrow, but first, it seems the brush holder should sit in the center of the pole pieces? For a completely reversible motor, yes. I think you

Re: [Emc-users] A 1 HP treadmill motor on a 7x12

2013-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 04 May 2013 22:02:17 andy pugh did opine: On 5 May 2013 02:25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: It seems to me that moving the brushes would be a better solution. I'll look again tomorrow, but first, it seems the brush holder should sit in the center of the pole pieces?

Re: [Emc-users] Creep in X axis

2013-05-04 Thread Glenn Edwards
I had somewhat the same problem with a closed-loop stepper motor system, but it was not LCNC. I used a programmable digital counter to count up-and-down pulses coming from the controller and from the encoders. Turns out the controller was issuing extra pulses, but again the controller was not