Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-05-01 Thread andy pugh
On 1 May 2014 05:25, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to your help, the configuration is working, (I've still to check out the homing/limits and spindle) but I am working hard at trying to get the 2 wire ULN3003 driver to perform. Do you have a strong reason for wanting to build a

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-14 Thread Todd Zuercher
@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 1:21:37 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration Hi Bill Please dont apologize for asking questions. Were here to help you man. I was not offended at all. You are falling into a trap that many people seem to do when working

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-14 Thread Todd Zuercher
Oops spell checker changed debounce to denounce. - Original Message - From: Todd Zuercher zuerc...@embarqmail.com To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 11:09:19 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 13 April 2014 02:36:39 Bill Brettle did opine: Sorry Marius, I did read your message and I thought I had tried it together with a multitude of other configs, but I must have either missed it put a typo in the line somewhere, anyhow, my sincere apologies. I thought I had it then

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-13 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi Bill Please dont apologize for asking questions. Were here to help you man. I was not offended at all. You are falling into a trap that many people seem to do when working with a new setup. I have a golden rule that says - One thing at a time Change and fix one thing at a time and start with

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-12 Thread Bill Brettle
Sorry Marius, I did read your message and I thought I had tried it together with a multitude of other configs, but I must have either missed it put a typo in the line somewhere, anyhow, my sincere apologies. I thought I had it then I found I had some wiring problems (as Gene said)(LM7805 and

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-06 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-04-06 06:37, Bill Brettle wrote: Thankyou both First, the LOW on pin 1 was 0v sorry to muddy the waters. Second, I corrected the -out-invert problem now I get this Error message Debug file information: Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1 Can not find -sec IO -var IO -num 1 Can

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 April 2014 03:38:15 Bill Brettle did opine: Thankyou both First, the LOW on pin 1 was 0v sorry to muddy the waters. Second, I corrected the -out-invert problem now I get this Error message Debug file information: Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1 Can not find -sec IO

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-06 Thread Bill Brettle
Hi all, I've worked hard at my .ini and Hal but can't get rid of that error. I realised that I can change the wiring on my spindle relay and get rid of the offending line but that has moved the problem down to my setp enable file and that one's got me beat it doesnt matter if I have the invert

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 April 2014 09:24:35 Bill Brettle did opine: Hi all, I've worked hard at my .ini and Hal but can't get rid of that error. I realised that I can change the wiring on my spindle relay and get rid of the offending line but that has moved the problem down to my setp enable file

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 April 2014 14:14, Bill Brettle billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I've worked hard at my .ini and Hal but can't get rid of that error. The problem is still there and still the same cause. You have: setp parport.0.pin-01-out-invert You should have: setp parport.0.pin-01-out-invert 1 or, if you

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-06 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I thought that was exactly what I explained. Make me think of Eric Clapton - I must be invisible :) On 2014-04-06 16:21, andy pugh wrote: On 6 April 2014 14:14, Bill Brettle billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I've worked hard at my .ini and Hal but can't get rid of that error. The problem is still

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-05 Thread Bill Brettle
Hi again everyone Pin No. 01 on my BOB is enable, and unless it is on HIGH the motion commands are blocked, I've discovered that the input from the computer on this pin is 5v (ie HIGH) but the BOB inverts this so that the output is about 2v (ie Low) so what I now want to do is to invert the

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-05 Thread andy pugh
On 5 April 2014 12:42, Bill Brettle billbret...@gmail.com wrote: computer. There are some example on how to do this in an LCNC document titled Stepper Configuration. (with part of that document Attached) When I put that into my HAL file I get an error message as shown on the top line of that

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 April 2014 09:28:28 Bill Brettle did opine: Hi again everyone Pin No. 01 on my BOB is enable, and unless it is on HIGH the motion commands are blocked, I've discovered that the input from the computer on this pin is 5v (ie HIGH) but the BOB inverts this so that the output

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-05 Thread Bill Brettle
Thankyou both First, the LOW on pin 1 was 0v sorry to muddy the waters. Second, I corrected the -out-invert problem now I get this Error message Debug file information: Can not find -sec MOT -var MOT -num 1 Can not find -sec IO -var IO -num 1 Can not find -sec LINUXCNC -var NML_FILE -num 1 Can

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-02 Thread andy pugh
On 2 April 2014 05:51, Bill Brettle billbret...@gmail.com wrote: 1. how is Xenable triggered, it doesn't appear to be going high Xenable isn't a HAL pin, so I assume that it is a signal that is created in your HAL file. You probably want to connect it to axis.0.amp-enable-out.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-04-01 Thread Bill Brettle
Hi everyone If I sound confused, Good I am. 1. how is Xenable triggered, it doesn't appear to be going high 2. Attached is a file called uln2003.hal which is a file I downloaded and have used as a basis for my .hal. It is for a 2 axis 4 wire connection and sets out the pins for A B C an D

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-30 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Bill I looked at your files but I could see nothing obviously wrong with them. Did you ever edit these files with a widows based editor? It sometime helps to restart the terminal session if you get funnies that just happen without explanation. Please explain the other strange files in your

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-30 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Sorry about the double posts my mail client said the message was not sent and it could not save it so I redid the message. On 2014-03-30 08:09, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Bill I looked at your files but I could see nothing obviously wrong with them. Did you ever edit these files with a widows

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread andy pugh
On 29 March 2014 07:44, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I rewrote my BillsMill.hal based on one in LinuxCNC forum Sept 2012 What did you edit it with? The error message is: BillsMill.hal:1: Unknown command 'Ôªø' Which looks like the hal file is not a plain text file any more. -- atp If

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread andy pugh
Having looked at the config which you attached, I am rather puzzled. There seem to be many more files than I would expect, files named the same as pins. Very peculiar. On 29 March 2014 20:41, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 March 2014 07:44, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-29 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 29 March 2014 18:18:45 andy pugh did opine: Having looked at the config which you attached, I am rather puzzled. There seem to be many more files than I would expect, files named the same as pins. Very peculiar. How did you unpack that zip? I couldn't get anything out of it that

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2014 02:50, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: I can't see how to do any of this with the stepconfig wizard, and if I just edit the BillsMill.hal file it will revert when I sun stepcon That's just the way it is if you have an unconventional setup. (ie, not step-dir drives). See

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-27 Thread Bill
edit this confuguration. Regards Bill ---Original Message--- From: Gene Heskett Date: 03/08/14 14:40:52 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration On Friday 07 March 2014 23:06:00 Bill did opine: Hi Gene and Andy I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 28 March 2014 00:47:59 Bill did opine: Hi everyone After three weeks I've got the latency down under 10,000 and received and installed my breakout board. Now I'm trying to get it going. With unipolar stepper motors and 2 wire uln2003 stepper drivers need to alter the loadrt

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Bill
Hi Gene Well I sat down this afternoon and worked on the configuration from scratch and it seemed to go OK . I can't try it yet because I am still waiting for the Breakout boards, they are on a slow boat from China. I still have to work out how to change the hal to make the stepconf type 5 as my

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2014 05:34:21 Bill did opine: Hi Gene Well I sat down this afternoon and worked on the configuration from scratch and it seemed to go OK . I can't try it yet because I am still waiting for the Breakout boards, they are on a slow boat from China. I still have to work out

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2014 06:25:36 Bill did opine: Hi Gene Well I sat down this afternoon and worked on the configuration from scratch and it seemed to go OK . I can't try it yet because I am still waiting for the Breakout boards, they are on a slow boat from China. I still have to work out

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 March 2014 04:35, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: I have minebea 17PM-M201-02 6wire HYbrid stepper motors driven by ULN2003a 2 wire drivers unipolar. This seems a bit puny to me, or your are geared down pretty slow, and with the voltage limits imposed by those drivers, it is not

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Peter Blodow
Gentlemen, due to the automatic line feed and another error there are two dots missing in the URL. Correlctly it has to be: http://www.robosoftsystems.co.in/roboshop/media/catalog/product/pdf/Minebea%2014PM-M201%20Unipolar%20Motor.pdf Greetings Peter Am 07.03.2014 12:27, schrieb Gene Heskett:

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Bill
of February this is not too bad. Mostly night games.B ---Original Message--- From: Gene Heskett Date: 03/07/14 21:30:12 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration On Friday 07 March 2014 06:25:36 Bill did opine: Hi Gene Well I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2014 19:22:40 Bill did opine: Hi Gene Sorry the link got mixed up in the email so here it goes again, I've emailed it to myself as well so I can check it. http://www.robosoftsystems.co in/roboshop/media/catalog/product/pdf/Minebea%2014PM-M201%20Unipolar%20M otor pdf

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread andy pugh
On 8 March 2014 00:44, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: http://www.robosoftsystems.co in/roboshop/media/catalog/product/pdf/Minebea%2014PM-M201%20Unipolar%20M otor pdf Link still bummed here, Using Peter Blodow's version of the link I found a truly tiny stepper. Holding Torque Nm

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Bill
Thanks Andy How do I do speed/force/power calculations? Bill -- Subversion Kills Productivity. Get off Subversion Make the Move to Perforce. With Perforce, you get hassle-free workflows. Merge that actually works.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread andy pugh
On 8 March 2014 01:56, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: How do I do speed/force/power calculations? Well, basically, you use Physics. Where do you want to start? Binary question search 1: Do you know what torque is? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration On Friday 07 March 2014 19:22:40 Bill did opine: Hi Gene Sorry the link got mixed up in the email so here it goes again, I've emailed it to myself as well so I can check it. http

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread andy pugh
On 8 March 2014 02:27, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: And that 24 volts, that is 9 more than the ULN2003 will be happy at No, the ULN is rated to 50V -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Bill
Hi Gene and Andy I guess I'm convinced that I need bigger motors but until I see some movement I don't want to do anything. What Torque do you both Suggest I'll carry on with calculations in the meantime then I can shop around. Thanks again Bill

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread jeremy youngs
http://pminmo.com/ this is a great site to find calculations and explanations on , i studied it intently , good luck jeremy youngs On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Bill billbret...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Gene and Andy I guess I'm convinced that I need bigger motors but until I see some

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 03/07/2014 05:56 PM, Bill wrote: Thanks Andy How do I do speed/force/power calculations? Bill You could try to fit a pulley to where the hand wheels are now. Then wrap with a string and hang a weight to the string. Keep adding weight until the axis moves the way you want. The torque

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2014 22:46:26 andy pugh did opine: On 8 March 2014 02:27, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: And that 24 volts, that is 9 more than the ULN2003 will be happy at No, the ULN is rated to 50V It might be rated at 50 volts Andy, but its also rated at .5 amps. It doesn't

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 07 March 2014 23:06:00 Bill did opine: Hi Gene and Andy I guess I'm convinced that I need bigger motors but until I see some movement I don't want to do anything. If you want to see movement without letting the smoke out, and here I am assuming the + end of your 24 volt supply is

[Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-06 Thread Bill
Hi Everyone My Name is Bill, I'm an aged pensioner and new to cnc When I open the linuxcnc configuration wizard and click modify a Configuration I am sent to a Modify Existing configuration window. I select the machine I wish to use and click open but nothing happens. What am I doing wrong.

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 March 2014 19:54:11 Bill did opine: Hi Everyone My Name is Bill, I'm an aged pensioner and new to cnc When I open the linuxcnc configuration wizard and click modify a Configuration I am sent to a Modify Existing configuration window. I select the machine I wish to use and

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-06 Thread Bill
Bill ---Original Message--- From: Gene Heskett Date: 03/07/14 11:03:08 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration On Thursday 06 March 2014 19:54:11 Bill did opine: Hi Everyone My Name is Bill, I'm an aged pensioner and new

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc stepper mill configuration

2014-03-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 06 March 2014 22:56:56 Bill did opine: New first, we would rather not have to sort the order of reading a message, so we discourage top posting. Hi Gene I building a DIY desktop mill (moving table) 420x300mm bed 3 axis Nice size, could do, if its level enough, pcb etching