communication between observers works out.
Universals = what things of one kind have in common.
Evgenii
On 07.09.2011 13:47 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/6/2011 3:23 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Let me try it this way. Could we say that universals exist already
in the 3d person view an
On 09.09.2011 23:06 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/9/2011 1:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 09.09.2011 21:58 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/9/2011 11:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I was talking
On 09.09.2011 21:58 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/9/2011 11:35 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I
am not sure if this could be generalized
On 06.09.2011 22:25 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/6/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I was talking about realism in a sense that universals exist (I am
not sure if this could be generalized for all things). My first
naive/crazy idea was that this could give some basis to produce
qualia
object-oriented programming.
Evgenii
On 06.09.2011 05:13 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 9/5/2011 6:32 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/5/2011 1:40 PM, Stephen P. King wrote:
Hi Brent,
On 9/5/2011 3:50 PM, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/5/2011 12:02 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Realism and nominalism
Let me try it this way. Could we say that universals exist already in
the 3d person view and they are independent from the 1st person view?
Evgenii
On 06.09.2011 09:00 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 05 Sep 2011, at 21:02, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Realism and nominalism in philosophy are
On 05.09.2011 07:59 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:32 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Hence you could take the existence of people in the USA who
"believe in an immaterial spirit, distinct from brain
processes" positively. After all, they are workin
On 04.09.2011 21:30 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/4/2011 11:32 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 04.09.2011 17:30 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On 04/09/2011, at 11:25 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
On 04.09.2011 07:51 meekerdb said the following:
...
If that's what you'
literally.
Evgenii
On 05.09.2011 18:59 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Hi Evgenii,
On 04 Sep 2011, at 18:30, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
A short remark. I have decided start with philosophy, as it is more
entertaining as mathematical logic.
I'm afraid you are wrong on this, with
On 04.09.2011 20:32 meekerdb said the following:
...
In any case, I do not think that the ideology should affect
reasoning.
Should reason affect ideology?
In my view it actually happens. People have already come to conclusion
that we should not force people in what God to believe. People
On 04.09.2011 17:30 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On 04/09/2011, at 11:25 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 04.09.2011 07:51 meekerdb said the following:
...
If that's what you're trying you're giving aid and comfort to
the enemy. Every religious fundamentalist i
his lectures.
Evgenii
On 03.09.2011 19:41 Bruno Marchal said the following:
> Hi Evgenii,
>
>
> On 02 Sep 2011, at 21:12, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
>
>> Bruno,
>>
>> Thanks a lot for your answers. I have said Bruno's theory just to
>> keep it short, nothing
On 04.09.2011 07:51 meekerdb said the following:
...
If that's what you're trying you're giving aid and comfort to the
enemy. Every religious fundamentalist in America hates materialism
and believes in an immaterial spirit, distinct from brain processes,
which is responsible for our thoughts an
On 02.09.2011 22:49 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/2/2011 1:06 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.09.2011 20:29 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/2/2011 5:17 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I have summarized my answers in respect to that the simulation
technology falls short of the simulation
On 03.09.2011 11:00 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
I have summarized my answers in respect to that the simulation
technology falls short of the simulation hypothesis at
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2011/09/simulation-hypothesis-and
me what I have not said.
Evgenii
On 03.09.2011 10:40 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
So you do believe that somewhere in the trajectory of the carbon
atom as it makes its way into the book it will move contrary to
any physical laws
On 02.09.2011 22:39 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/2/2011 12:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 02.09.2011 20:07 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/2/2011 12:42 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
In this series there is a clear statement that there are
questions that we cannot solve, for example if the
On 02.09.2011 20:29 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/2/2011 5:17 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I have summarized my answers in respect to that the simulation
technology falls short of the simulation hypothesis at
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2011/09/simulation-hypothesis-and-simulation-technology.html
On 02.09.2011 20:07 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/2/2011 12:42 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
In this series there is a clear statement that there are questions
that we cannot solve, for example if the Universe is eternal or
not. You rely on cause and at the same time on Big Bang. But then
Big
On 30 Aug 2011, at 19:24, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 30.08.2011 17:11 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
The subject feels he initiates and has control over the
voluntary movement but not the involuntary movement. That's the
difference between them. Both types of movement, however, are
On 02.09.2011 14:31 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Consider a single carbon atom in a book. The atom follows a
trajectory from where it was one thousand years ago to where it
is in the book today. Do you believe that at every point
I have summarized my answers in respect to that the simulation
technology falls short of the simulation hypothesis at
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2011/09/simulation-hypothesis-and-simulation-technology.html
It could be considered as some small empiric case study.
Evgenii
--
You received this messag
On 02.09.2011 08:24 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Well, you have still not explained how books self-assembly
themselves from atoms. This is some problem with your reasoning.
What Occam's Razor says about the creation of
On 01.09.2011 19:57 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Sep 1, 11:03 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 31 Aug 2011, at 17:22, Craig Weinberg wrote:
This is where we disagree. If the wetness or carbonic nature of the
brain plays a rôle in our consciousness, this would just mean that
the comp lev
On 01.09.2011 15:00 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
The atoms have to move in order to write the book. They have to
move inside the brain of the author, then his hands have to move,
the keys on the computer keyboard move, and so on
On 01.09.2011 05:14 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
The subject feels he initiates and has control over the
voluntary movement but not the involuntary movement. That's the
difference between them. Both types of movement, ho
On 30.08.2011 17:11 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Craig
Weinberg wrote:
Right. That's the same thing I'm saying. When you decide to move
your hand, that decision corresponds to neurotransmitters firing.
It's the same thing. Considered from the 1p sub
On 29.08.2011 14:03 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On 28/08/2011, at 11:21 PM, Craig Weinberg
wrote:
...
Cells are not just physical and chemical. They are biological too.
That's what you're not seeing. There is a difference. There's
nothing magic about it, it's just that we have a s
On 25.08.2011 12:12 Alberto G.Corona said the following:
On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 05 Jul 2011, at 11:42, Alberto G.Corona wrote: .
Are you sure you don't confuse consciousness and conscience. I
think that solitary primitive animals felt pain, and are thus
consciouss (althoug
On 22.08.2011 09:14 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
In my view, any experiment is based on some assumptions (a world
view). To this end, it would be nice to understand what a world
view would be necessary to state that &quo
%20Cognition%20.pdf
It happened that they talk not about the Loeb theorem but rather about
the biologist Jacques Loeb.
Do you know why robotics people do not use the Löb theorem in practice?
Evgenii
On 20.08.2011 16:22 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 19 Aug 2011, at 20:18, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote
Trying to remember where I have seen the statement about Dennett, I have
made search on Google.
Two findings (both are not my source though):
1) Is Daniel Dennett a zombie?
Discussion on ephilosopher.com where the question, I believe is close to
the statement that I have seen.
"This is not
On 20.08.2011 00:38 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/19/2011 11:51 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
It seems that at present there is only one candidate for a zombie -
Dennet, who defending his theory seems to refuse his own
consciousness (I do not remember now where I have seen this nice
statement
On 19.08.2011 05:12 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
I'm not saying we shouldn't do science, just that we can't be
*sure* that something which behaves as if it's conscious is
actually conscious. A thermostat
On 18.08.2011 16:24 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 17 Aug 2011, at 20:07, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/17/2011 10:36 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 16.08.2011 20:47 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/16/2011 11:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, this is why in my first post, I said consider
On 17.08.2011 03:42 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
But the scientists could be studying zombies. There is no way of
knowing. What we can know is that IF the original brain is
conscious and is modified with a functional analogue
On 17.08.2011 02:01 Jason Resch said the following:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
On 15.08.2011 23:42 Jason Resch said the following:
...
But all of this is an aside from point that I was making
regarding the power and versatility of Turing machines. Those
who
On 16.08.2011 20:47 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/16/2011 11:03 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Yes, this is why in my first post, I said consider God's Turing
machine (free from our limitations). Then it is obvious that
with the appropriate tape, a physical system can be approximated
t
On 16.08.2011 16:18 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 15 Aug 2011, at 19:53, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 15.08.2011 19:18 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Hi Evgenii,
On 14 Aug 2011, at 21:25, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Bruno,
Let me put it this way. I guess that a Lobian machine could be
On 16.08.2011 16:08 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Craig
Weinberg wrote:
If the brain does something not predictable by modelling its
biochemistry that means it works by magic.
Then you are saying that whether you accept what I'm what I'm
writing he
On 16.08.2011 02:28 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
On 15.08.2011 19:18 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Hi Evgenii,
On 14 Aug 2011, at 21:25, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Bruno,
Let me put it this way. I guess that a Lobian machine
On 15.08.2011 23:42 Jason Resch said the following:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
On 15.08.2011 07:56 Jason Resch said the following:
...
Can we accurately simulate physical laws or can't we? Before you
answer, take a few minutes to watch this amazing video,
On 15.08.2011 07:56 Jason Resch said the following:
...
Can we accurately simulate physical laws or can't we? Before you
answer, take a few minutes to watch this amazing video, which
simulates the distribution of mass throughout the universe on the
largest scales: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
On 15.08.2011 19:18 Bruno Marchal said the following:
Hi Evgenii,
On 14 Aug 2011, at 21:25, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Bruno,
Let me put it this way. I guess that a Lobian machine could be
implemented, or it has been already implemented. So let us then
take some Lobian machine and then you
On 15.08.2011 17:22 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/15/2011 12:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 5:20 PM, meekerdb
wrote:
This example is not specific to brain replacement with
artificial parts. It could be that a biological brain contains
intelligent subsystems that
.
Evgenii
On 14.08.2011 19:08 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 14 Aug 2011, at 15:14, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Bruno,
It well may be that you are right. The problem from my side is that
my knowledge of mathematics is not enough to understand you.
Mathematics is not well taught, and the case is
my view, to spread your knowledge it would be good to write a book.
Evgenii
On 14.08.2011 14:55 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 13 Aug 2011, at 16:47, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 13.08.2011 14:08 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Evgenii
Rudnyi wrot
On 14.08.2011 02:00 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 12:47 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
How could the rest of your brain possibly respond differently if
it receives exactly the same stimulation? Perhaps you mean that
it would be able to tell that there is an
On 13.08.2011 14:08 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
If your visual cortex is replaced by an electronic device that
produces the appropriate outputs at its borders, the rest of
your brain will respond normally.
This is just an
> If your visual cortex is replaced by an electronic device that
> produces the appropriate outputs at its borders, the rest of your
> brain will respond normally.
This is just an assumption. I guess that at present one cannot prove or
disprove it. Let me quote an opposite assumption from Jeffre
On 12.08.2011 22:20 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/12/2011 12:37 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 12.08.2011 20:40 meekerdb said the following:
You robot do. It gets tagged with some notes, timestamped, and
stuck in the database for further reference and adjustment of
learning algorithms
On 12.08.2011 22:05 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 12, 3:41 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
It would be interesting to see how do you know this. Some
revelation or something else?
I don't know it, I just think that it could be the case. If you can
fully and finally rejec
On 12.08.2011 20:47 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 12, 2:00 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
This the point that I do not understand. The question is here more
what exactly is the observer in my body. Presumably it is the
brain. Then it first constructs the world that I observe, than it
On 12.08.2011 20:40 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/12/2011 11:00 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 11.08.2011 22:46 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/11/2011 1:04 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
I would say now that consciousness is conscious perception.
The main problem in my view though is
On 12.08.2011 00:00 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 11, 4:04 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I would say now that consciousness is conscious perception. The
main problem in my view though is who follows the narrative. Does
your theory answer such a question?
Just as an image is an
On 11.08.2011 22:46 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/11/2011 1:04 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
I would say now that consciousness is conscious perception. The
main problem in my view though is who follows the narrative. Does
your theory answer such a question?
I'd say "You do
On 11.08.2011 21:25 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 11, 3:13 pm, meekerdb wrote:
I think consciousness of perception is a narrative story the brain
makes up for the purpose of memory and future cogitation. That's
why we have few conscious memories prior to learning language.
I thin
On 11.08.2011 09:25 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Stephen P.
King wrote:
...
The specific question I'm asking is whether it is possible to
separate consciousness from behaviour. Is it possible to make a brain
component that from the engineering po
On 08.08.2011 00:03 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/7/2011 11:07 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 07.08.2011 19:58 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/6/2011 11:44 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Please note that according to experimental results (see the
book mentioned in my previous message
Craig,
Now I agree that my example was not good. I have searched some more.
What about phantom pain, that is, pain in a limb that has been removed
by amputation? What your theory says about such a thing?
Evgenii
On 07.08.2011 22:28 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 07.08.2011 21:26
On 07.08.2011 21:26 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 7, 11:47 am, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 07.08.2011 17:12 Craig Weinberg said the following:
It seems that pain is some brain function, see for example
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/content/interviews/interview/651/
I
On 07.08.2011 20:54 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 07 Aug 2011, at 20:02, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
My question was more about what kind of consciousness experiences a
spider has. Let us start with a vision. Does a spider experience a
3D world like we? (well even without colors, say
at without consciousness there
would be no pain.
Evgenii
On 07.08.2011 20:07 Evgenii Rudnyi said the following:
On 07.08.2011 19:58 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/6/2011 11:44 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Please note that according to experimental results (see the book
mentioned in my previo
On 07.08.2011 19:58 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/6/2011 11:44 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
Please note that according to experimental results (see the book
mentioned in my previous message), pain comes after the event. For
example when you touch a hotplate, you take your hand back not
On 07.08.2011 19:23 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 07 Aug 2011, at 17:25, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
...
The question here what it could mean, "limited consciousness" in
the case of a spider.
Why limited consciousness? For me the big departure is between RA
consciousn
On 07.08.2011 17:12 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 7, 10:31 am, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 07.08.2011 14:51 Craig Weinberg said the following:
The pain comes to 'us' after the event. That's not to say that
the cells of your burned finger are not in pain already. Ce
On 07.08.2011 14:14 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 07 Aug 2011, at 01:24, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Let us forget for a moment machines and take for example some
other biological creatures, for example even insects. How would
you
On 07.08.2011 14:51 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 7, 2:44 am, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 07.08.2011 05:12 Craig Weinberg said the following:
We can always infer qualia. It doesn't mean our inference is
correct. In this case I'm pointing out that the inference
doesn&#
On 07.08.2011 05:12 Craig Weinberg said the following:
On Aug 6, 9:35 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/6/2011 4:59 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
The language doesn't matter. You can see that a person is in pain
by their response to being burned, even if they have not
developed language yet.
Interesting
On 07.08.2011 01:24 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:54 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
Let us forget for a moment machines and take for example some
other biological creatures, for example even insects. How would you
characterize the behaviour of insects? Is it
On 06.08.2011 20:10 meekerdb said the following:
On 8/6/2011 3:48 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.08.2011 12:27 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Craig
Weinberg wrote:
...
Consciousness isn't provided. It's not a service. It's like
s
On 06.08.2011 16:15 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
How do you define intelligent behaviour? For example in the book
Dario Floreano and Claudio Mattiussi, Bio-Inspired Artificial
Intelligence: Theories, Methods, and Technologies
On 06.08.2011 12:27 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Craig
Weinberg wrote:
...
Consciousness isn't provided. It's not a service. It's like saying
that mass is being provided to an object.
My position is that consciousness occurs necessarily if the s
On 31.07.2011 19:12 Stephen P. King said the following:
On 7/31/2011 1:19 AM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
...
Your ice fire makes no heat, consumes no fuel.
Not externally, but it would internally.
I understand why that makes sense, but it's incorrect. Heat cannot
be simulated and it cannot be ge
On 23.07.2011 18:05 Craig Weinberg said the following:
I was thinking about how a sperm resembles a brain and spinal cord
but that the egg is more like a microcosm of a world. Conception
plays out metaphorically as a miniature sensorimotive self entering a
single life as a sphere which progressi
On 18.07.2011 14:21 ronaldheld said the following:
Bruno:
I do not know LISP. Any UD code written in Fortran?
Ronald
Very good book to learn LISP is
http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book.html
Just click Next page, read and so on. By the way, List is much n
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128205.200-dvd-alloys-help-make-computers-that-think-like-us.html
"A brain-like computer is one that can learn and adapt without external
programming. Such an ability would allow machines to become far better
at tasks like face and speech recognition. The
Bruno,
Why don't you make a course for dummies about this? (For example in
Second Life)
Evgenii
On 11.07.2011 16:01 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 11 Jul 2011, at 14:33, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 10.07.2011 17:32 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 10 Jul 2011, at 15:20,
On 10.07.2011 17:32 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 10 Jul 2011, at 15:20, Craig Weinberg wrote:
...
Let's take the color yellow for example. If you build a brain out
of ideal ping pong balls, or digital molecular emulations, does it
perceive yellow from 580nm oscillations of electroma
k to
John Hagelin, see for example
http://worldpeaceendowment.org/invincibility/invincibility8.html
You may want to compare Schroedinger with him.
Evgenii
http://blog.rudnyi.ru
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, meekerdb
wrote:
On 7/6/2011 12:22 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.07.2011 05:14 C
On 06.07.2011 21:36 meekerdb said the following:
On 7/6/2011 12:22 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 06.07.2011 05:14 Constantine Pseudonymous said the following:
Bruno assumes that consciousness preceded matter
...
If talk about consciousness, then I guess the next quote from Erwin
On 06.07.2011 05:14 Constantine Pseudonymous said the following:
Bruno assumes that consciousness preceded matter
then why do we only find consciousness as a terrestrial phenomena
(suns and stars aren't conscious).. and as a later stage terrestrial
phenomena for that matter i.e. water, p
On 26.06.2011 22:33 meekerdb said the following:
On 6/26/2011 12:58 PM, Rex Allen wrote:
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Bruno Marchal
...
The idea that our theories are approaching some metaphysical truth is
essentially just the same as assuming there is some more
comprehensive and coher
On 20.06.2011 21:13 meekerdb said the following:
On 6/20/2011 11:05 AM, selva wrote:
it is proved in noetic science that our thoughts(only thoughts and
not the actions due to those thoughts)affect our physical
environment.
Where are these proofs published?
I was trying to understand what noe
tist, which
includes the need to create a liar). It's all quite convoluted, but
nevertheless sufficient to help an engineer like me make a design
choice... which I have done.
I hope over time these ideas will not grate on the mind quite so
much.
cheers colin
Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Colin,
Colin,
Thanks for the paper. I have just browsed it. Two small notes.
I like [Turing et al., 2008]. It seems that he has passed his test
successfully.
I find term Natural Computation (NC) a bit confusing. I guess that I
understand what you means but the term Computation sounds ambiguously,
In Die Zeit there was a paper about a new project of Henry Markram
The Human Brain Project
http://www.humanbrainproject.eu/
He suggests to develop a full computer model of a human brain. The
project is under the EU initiative FET Flagship Initiatives where the
goal is to choose two project wit
Thanks for the link. I have enjoyed the talk.
On 12.05.2011 22:20 thermo said the following:
Hi, I recently read the "Theory of Nothing" book by Russell Standish.
I wanted to share this talk I watched by Damian Conway...
Damian Conway, Thoughtstream: "Temporally Quaquaversal Virtual
Nanomachine
Could you please tell me if this paper will help me for example to earn
more money? Or, according to this paper, does it make sense even try to
earn more money?
On 17.05.2011 08:15 scerir said the following:
Are There Quantum Effects Coming from Outside Space-time?
Nonlocality, free will and "
Recently there was discussion on this list about this question
Love and free will
http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list/t/8ab31552cd18561c
Some citations you will find in my blog
http://blog.rudnyi.ru/2011/04/love-and-free-will.html
You might be interested in Rex's
Intelligence and N
.04.2011 02:47 zprime21 said the following:
try stuart hammeroff and roger penrose collaboration....regarding
conciousness.
On Apr 27, 12:16 pm, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
Recently I have seen interpretation of quantum mechanics in terms
of quantum decoherence, for example Decoherence and the Transiti
Recently I have seen interpretation of quantum mechanics in terms of
quantum decoherence, for example Decoherence and the Transition from
Quantum to Classical by Wojciech H. Zurek. What is an attitude in
general to this? Is this good? Is there a good text for a layman about
such an approach?
On 15.04.2011 21:44 meekerdb said the following:
Entropy and information are related. In classical thermodynamics the
relation is between what constraint you impose on the substance and
dQ/T. You note that it is calculated assuming constant pressure -
that is a constraint; another is assuming c
On 15.04.2011 21:16 Rex Allen said the following:
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:45 AM, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
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I think it is a bit dangerous, especially that there is already a
social tendency to dissolve responsibility among those taking
decisions.
Rewarding bad behavior will get you more ba
Apr 2011, at 22:25, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
This week in Die Zeit there were two papers about love and
fidelity. One more scientific, another more philosophic. In the
latter there is a couple of paragraphs related to Goethe’s
“Elective Affinities” that are 100% in agreement with Rex:
Die Utopie der
Colin,
I used to work in chemical thermodynamics for awhile and I give you the
answer from such a viewpoint. As this is the area that I know, then my
message will be a bit long and I guess it differs from the viewpoint of
people in information theory.
CLASSICAL THERMODYNAMICS
First entropy
This week in Die Zeit there were two papers about love and fidelity. One
more scientific, another more philosophic. In the latter there is a
couple of paragraphs related to Goethe’s “Elective Affinities” that are
100% in agreement with Rex:
Die Utopie der Liebe
http://www.zeit.de/2011/15/Ps-T
on 20.03.2011 15:03 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 19 Mar 2011, at 21:27, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
on 19.03.2011 20:16 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 19 Mar 2011, at 18:04, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
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As I have written, I rather follow my intuition rather than logic.
So I cannot
on 19.03.2011 20:16 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 19 Mar 2011, at 18:04, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
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At this point I am not sure that I agree with oneness of the mind.
I have no certainty about this, *even* in the comp frame. The only
quasi-certainty is that physics is a projection
on 19.03.2011 08:32 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 18 Mar 2011, at 21:09, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
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Not at all. I said exactly that. See the quote above. It is *because*
they have the same right, that we have to listen to both copies, and
can define the indeterminacy from what they
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