Re: Re: Re: American Intelligence

On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 12:38 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi terrorism > as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? http://reason.com/archives/2011/09/06/how-scared-of-terrorism-should

RE: Re: Re: American Intelligence

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 7:54 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Re: Re: American Intelligence Jesus, Chris, your writing fits the bill. If you're not willing to see the co

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RE: Re: Re: American Intelligence

From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 5:40 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Re: Re: American Intelligence I am suspecting, based on intelligence made public,using the old Claude Shannon method

Re: RE: Re: American Intelligence

Chris, nobody in power shares my love for global war, as you put it, but I am very logical in noting the decline of American effectiveness, and prowess. The world is soon becoming, a No Country for Old Men sort of place, thats less free and more dangerous. A weakend US now invites attack, but t

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RE: Re: Re: American Intelligence

-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Well, my question is, are you automatically, dismissing jihadi terrorism as a chimera, a false threat, a non-issue? My answer: you are automatically assuming that it is. -- You receive

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RE: RE: RE: American Intelligence

-Original Message- From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 5:04 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: RE: RE: American Intelligence Chris, so how will you be able to live with yourself, if, say, you

Re: RE: RE: American Intelligence

Chris, so how will you be able to live with yourself, if, say, you cannot budge me from my horrible views? Secondly, you are not a US citizen, are you? How will you control America if you cannot even control, influence, or browbeat me? Just curious. -- You received this message because you ar

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Chris, so how will you be able to live with yourself, if, say, you cannot budge me from my horrible views? Secondly, you are not a US citizen, are you? How will you control America if you cannot even control, influence, or browbeat me? Just curious. -- You received this message because you ar

Re: Re: Re: Re: [Theoretical_Physics] Re: [4DWorldx]Fw:Re:Re:[Theoretical_Physics_Board] OK, but think about this

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

of quantum mind (whatever that is). > > etc. as I frequently but ineffectively try to correct. > > > > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-02-03, 09:37:42 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

ntent - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-03, 09:37:42 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe Dear Roger, Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is non-physical and therefore part of the mind. This includes comp up

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

Straw dog there is no mention of a separation On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:37:42 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> Dear Roger, >> >> Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is >> non-physical and therefore part o

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

orld of mind. > > > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Alberto G. Corona > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-02-02, 14:14:51 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > > In the world of the mind, that is, in what we call reality

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

On Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:37:42 AM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > Dear Roger, > > Only 4d spacetime, matter and energy are physical. Everything else is > non-physical and therefore part of the mind. This includes comp up > thru quantum mechanics. Only 4 dimensions for example of the 11d > univ

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

they are physical. So the block universe is a waste of time. > > > > - Receiving the following content - > From: Richard Ruquist > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-02-03, 07:19:51 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > > Roger, > > I think the blo

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

-02-03, 07:19:51 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe Roger, I think the block universe (not quite accurate terminology) is actually the 4-dimensional quantum mind and in it is written all possible futures and pasts based on comp and quantum mechanics as well as info on what

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

ng the following content - > From: Alberto G. Corona > Receiver: everything-list > Time: 2013-02-02, 14:14:51 > Subject: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe > > In the world of the mind, that is, in what we call reality, it causes > everithing because causality is an

Re: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

Hi Alberto G. Corona My understanding is that the block universe is the physical universe, so it does not include the world of mind. - Receiving the following content - From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-02, 14:14:51 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the

Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

In the world of the mind, that is, in what we call reality, it causes everithing because causality is another phenomenon introduced by the mind (1p) In the timeless view, there is no causality buy casualty Viewed from above in a broad perspective, then to cause something is to select it, so there

Re: Re: Re: How can intelligence be physical ?

On Saturday, February 2, 2013 9:10:49 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Telmo Menezes > > By "material" I mean physical. Decartes similarly defines > the physical as being extended in space. Mathematics > is not extended in space, so is nonphysical. A Turing machine > is conceived of as having

Re: Re: Re: How can intelligence be physical ?

Hi Telmo Menezes By "material" I mean physical. Decartes similarly defines the physical as being extended in space. Mathematics is not extended in space, so is nonphysical. A Turing machine is conceived of as having a tape with holes in it, but it can be used mathematically without physically co

Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

Hi Alberto G. Corona Does your version of mind actually do anything ? - Receiving the following content - From: Alberto G. Corona Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-02, 04:43:54 Subject: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe I do think that a block universe can contain minds

Re: Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list

Hi Russell Standish Fine. - Receiving the following content - From: Russell Standish Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-02-01, 16:54:48 Subject: Re: Re: [Metadiscussion] Off topic posting on the everything-list On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 11:30:39AM -0500, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Pla

Re: Re: Re: Hateful

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Terren Suydam > > Faith is a gift we are unworthy of. > Whatever floats your boat. Terren > > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Terren Suydam > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-30, 14:21:17 > *Subj

Re: Re: Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry

Hi John Mikes It didn't feel good. - Receiving the following content - From: John Mikes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-30, 17:45:12 Subject: Re: Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry Roger: it is obvious that you have not understa

Re: Re: Re: Hateful

Hi Terren Suydam Faith is a gift we are unworthy of. - Receiving the following content - From: Terren Suydam Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-30, 14:21:17 Subject: Re: Re: Hateful Hi Roger, What else is it? If you say it is the arbiter of morality, then that too can

Re: Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:45:12 PM UTC-5, JohnM wrote: > > Roger: it is obvious that you have not understand a word of my post. Did > it feel good to mention it as "far left"? My experience is balanced, I was > a victim of right and left (and also of the so called middle) in my latest >

Re: Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry

Roger: it is obvious that you have not understand a word of my post. Did it feel good to mention it as "far left"? My experience is balanced, I was a victim of right and left (and also of the so called middle) in my latest 75 years of active life on 3 continents. Please try to understand what you r

Re: Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry

On Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:26:51 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi John Mikes > > That's the argument of the Far Left, that miltary strength > induces our enemies to attack us, so we should cut back on > defense spending. And any defensive actions we have made > in the past only count

Re: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe

Hi Richard Ruquist Consciousness is not a force that might do things. It is what allows us to perceive and know things. - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-29, 20:39:40 Subject: Re: Re: Lessons from the Block Universe On

Re: Re: Re: Facts vs values

Hi Alberto G. Corona Not to worry. Since, along with Leibniz (see his Theodicy) I believe that everything is caused (sometimes unpreferably) by God, then faith is a gift, and, contrary to Billy Graham, cannot be invoked by man. You cannot decide to choose for Christ. You can however turn it dow

Re: Re: Re: The "fairness" argument and women in the infantry

Hi John Mikes That's the argument of the Far Left, that miltary strength induces our enemies to attack us, so we should cut back on defense spending. And any defensive actions we have made in the past only count against us. Since we are dealing with fanatics. you could be right, but my pers

Re: Re: Re: Martin Luther on Rationality

On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 Roger Clough wrote: > the ancient jews in the BC era knew nothing > Not far from the truth. > of the ancient myths, > If they knew anything at all it was useless crap like that. > “There is little notice of the Persian god [Mithra] in the Roman world > until the beginnin

Re: Re: Re: Martin Luther on Rationality

On Friday, January 25, 2013 1:59:53 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi John Clark > > That's all made-up stuff put on the web by people such as you. > Not by the worldwide liberal conspiracy? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" gro

Re: Re: Re: Martin Luther on Rationality

Hi John Clark No, I let science be science and religion be religion. Different languages, different meanings. You're confusing the two. - Receiving the following content - From: John Clark Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-25, 11:29:01 Subject: Re: Re: Martin Luther on Rationali

Re: Re: Re: Sensing the presence of God

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:52:59 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > > > An article in the American Journal of > Psychiatryin > 2004 suggested that atheists might have a higher suicide rate than > theists.

Re: Re: Re: Sensing the presence of God

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:46:47 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > Period, meaning that's it. > I know what you meant by period. If you noticed, I attached a list of serial killers who followed what they understood to be the voice of God. The implication is that if yo

Re: Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:34:38 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > An anthropic God is the only one we can make sense of. > By 'we', you mean 'you'. You are wrong over 1.5 billion times even if we just count the Buddhist 'we' in Asia alone. You do know that Buddha isn

Re: Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.

On Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:32:58 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > OK, you can see that in two current junk science cults: > > (a) materialism > > (b) climate change > What I can see is that your responses seem to be generated by this logic tree: Do I Understand

Re: Re: Re: Sensing the presence of God

Hi Craig Weinberg An article in the American Journal of Psychiatry in 2004 suggested that atheists might have a higher suicide rate than theists.[10] According to William Bainbridge, atheism is common among people whose social obligations are weak and is also connected to lower fertility rate

Re: Re: Re: Sensing the presence of God

Hi Craig Weinberg Period, meaning that's it. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-23, 12:48:50 Subject: Re: Re: Sensing the presence of God http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7894536/Yorkshire-Ripper-Peter-Sutcli

Re: Re: Re: the curse of materialism

Hi Craig Weinberg Do I have to tell you ? Fictitous objects have no consciousness. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-23, 12:23:21 Subject: Re: Re: the curse of materialism On Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:03:58 AM UT

Re: Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.

Hi Craig Weinberg An anthropic God is the only one we can make sense of. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-23, 09:22:38 Subject: Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS. On Wednesday, January

Re: Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUST 4 STEPS.

Hi Craig Weinberg OK, you can see that in two current junk science cults: (a) materialism (b) climate change - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-23, 09:15:40 Subject: Re: Re: HOW YOU CAN BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN IN JUS

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

> > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Craig Weinberg > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-22, 15:38:50 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ? > > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:22:06 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

g Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-22, 15:38:50 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ? On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:22:06 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg If you knew more about the history of philsophy, you'd know that Berkeley finally had to admit that the

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:20:58 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > >> > >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg > >> wrote: > >> > That does

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

Richard: and what is - NOT - an illusion? are you? or me? we have no way to ascertain existence and qualia, we just THINK. Our science is based on SOME info we don't know exactly, not even if it is like we think it is. We calculate in our human logic (stupidity would be more accurate) and then c

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg >> wrote: >> > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. I >> > have >> > never once said tha

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 3:49:09 PM UTC-5, yanniru wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg > > > wrote: > > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. I > have > > never once said that existence is contingent upon human consciousness. I > > s

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > That doesn't have anything to do with your straw man of my position. I have > never once said that existence is contingent upon human consciousness. I > state again and again that it is experience itself - the capacity for > sensory-motor pa

Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

ver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-21, 10:40:52 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy > > > > On Monday, January 21, 2013 9:19:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: >> >> Hi Craig Weinberg >> >> >> But nothing would exist f

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

eceiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-21, 11:53:45 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ? > > > > On Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: >> >> Hi Craig Weinberg >> >> That is such a silly pov. >> >

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

eiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-21, 11:53:45 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ? On Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg That is such a silly pov. Because it's your pov, not mine. You don't understand what I am talking about so yo

Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

eiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-21, 10:40:52 Subject: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy On Monday, January 21, 2013 9:19:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg But nothing would exist for a blind man, since he can see nothing. Blind people can hear and feel and think,

Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

On Monday, January 21, 2013 4:53:25 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > That is such a silly pov. > Because it's your pov, not mine. You don't understand what I am talking about so you keep pointing at a Straw Man misinterpretation of Berkeleyan idealism. > If a boulder

Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

On Monday, January 21, 2013 9:19:36 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > > But nothing would exist for a blind man, > since he can see nothing. > Blind people can hear and feel and think, smell and taste, touch. Everything exists to the extent that it can be detected directl

Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

Hi Craig Weinberg But nothing would exist for a blind man, since he can see nothing. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-21, 09:11:18 Subject: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy On Monday, January 21, 2013 4:54:58

Re: Re: Re: Is there an aether ?

Hi Craig Weinberg That is such a silly pov. If a boulder fell off of a cliff above you onto you that you didn't see, would it hurt you or not ? - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-20, 15:47:31 Subject: Re: Re: Is there an ae

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

ing content - > *From:* Craig Weinberg > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-20, 15:00:34 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:43:42 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote: >> >> Hi Craig Weinberg >&g

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

Hi Craig Weinberg They don't make sense to you but they do make make sense to me. Could it be that you are a low information, low understanding person ? - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-20, 15:00:34 Subject: Re: R

Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

ness. > > > - Receiving the following content - > *From:* Craig Weinberg > *Receiver:* everything-list > *Time:* 2013-01-20, 14:18:16 > *Subject:* Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy > > > > On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:08:09 PM UTC

Re: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

, 14:18:16 Subject: Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:08:09 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg Then you believe that God exists. That's a good start. Can't I point out the absurdity of a belief without being accused of

Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

On Sunday, January 20, 2013 2:08:09 PM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > Then you believe that God exists. > That's a good start. > Can't I point out the absurdity of a belief without being accused of having it? > > > > - Receiving the following content - > *

Re: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy

Hi Craig Weinberg Then you believe that God exists. That's a good start. - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-19, 09:55:18 Subject: Re: Re: A God-limited God - My Theodicy On Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:22:38 AM UTC-5,

Re: Re: Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

I First person singular We First person plural You Second person singular / second person plural He Third person masculine singular She Third person feminine singular It Third person neutral singular They Third person plural / third person g

Re: Re: Re: Escaping from the world of 3p Flatland

Hi Russell Standish Firstness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is, positively and without reference to anything else. Secondness is the mode of being of that which is such as it is, with respect to a second but regardless of any third. Thirdness is the mode of being of that w

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should beTwoAspects Theory

list Time: 2013-01-17, 11:59:05 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should beTwoAspects Theory On Thursday, January 17, 2013 11:54:03 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg Sorry, I'm missing your point. What is it ? You said "Potential energy is

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should be TwoAspects Theory

gy is similarly nothing at all. > > [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net ] > 1/17/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > - Receiving the following content - > From: Craig Weinberg > Receiver: everything-list >

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should be TwoAspects Theory

ime: 2013-01-17, 10:59:12 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error,it should be TwoAspects Theory On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:31:51 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg 1) Good point. So far, there is only indirect evidence of gravity waves. http://www.centaur

Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

not? They measure only the changing positions of matter, nothing else. Craig > > > > [Roger Clough], [rcl...@verizon.net ] > 1/15/2013 > "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen > - Receiving the following content ----- > F

Re: Re: Re: Fwd: the curse of materialism

Hi Craig Weinberg I agree with you. I have no idea what Richard has in mind. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/16/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Ti

Re: Re: Re: Re: Fwd: the curse of materialism

01-16, 09:43:48 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Fwd: the curse of materialism Roger, Your presumptions are incorrect. Also your monad definition. I am too old for bare naked. Stop being silly. Richard On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > Yes, of cours

Re: Re: Re: Fwd: the curse of materialism

Roger, Your presumptions are incorrect. Also your monad definition. I am too old for bare naked. Stop being silly. Richard On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > Yes, of course. The monads are mental representations of > physical bodies in the world. You w

Re: Re: Re: Fwd: the curse of materialism

Hi Richard Ruquist Yes, of course. The monads are mental representations of physical bodies in the world. You will presumably have for your physical object some container in L He with a BEC at the bottom. Physical objects such as rocks produce "bare naked " monads. Is that what you want

Re: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

Receiving the following content - From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-14, 11:51:03 Subject: Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory On Monday, January 14, 2013 7:06:57 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: Hi Craig Weinberg Why not ?

Re: Re: Re: WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > >> > God is everything, including this list. > > > Then "God" means nothing because meaning needs contrast. If everything that > exists and everything that doesn't exist and everything

Re: Re: Re: WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: > God is everything, including this list. > Then "God" means nothing because meaning needs contrast. If everything that exists and everything that doesn't exist and everything you can imagine and everything that you can't imagine has the p

Re: Re: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

You are californian its'nt? 2013/1/14 Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > > On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: > >> THe problem with solar energy is that it is strongly subsidized. >> > > Yes, but this is lessening. Protectionism is crumbling. > > >> Instead of you being stolen

Re: Re: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

> > >> > Instead of complaining now or watching what the market does, by not really > watching it á la Roger, better include the future when considering past and > present: I bet that Spain, with its sunshine monopoly and mix of renewable > energy and infrastructure investment of the last years, wi

Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

On Monday, January 14, 2013 7:06:57 AM UTC-5, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > Why not ? There are gravitational waves. > How do you know there are gravitational waves? > But earthquakes usually initiate waves > by the sudden release of potential energy. > Potential energy is c

Re: Re: Re: WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN

Hi Roger Clough, God is everything, including this list. Richard David, "complex variables and quantum theory go together" On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Richard Ruquist > > God is not righteous by what standards ? Yours? > > > [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net]

Re: Re: Re: WHY YOU SHOULDN'T BECOME A LIBERAL THEOLOGIAN

Hi Richard Ruquist God is not righteous by what standards ? Yours? [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/14/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013

Re: Re: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

THe problem with solar energy is that it is strongly subsidized. Instead of you being stolen by "monopolistic" energy companies, you can steal the taxpayer thank to state planning. Most solar panels are installed because they receive subsidies by KW. As a logical consequience a boost in production

Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

Hi Richard Ruquist OK--- in the mind. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/14/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-13, 08:45:18 Subject: Re: Re: MWI

Re: Re: Re: cognitive therapy

Hi Telmo Menezes Same here. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/14/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Telmo Menezes Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-14, 07:42:02 Subject: Re: Re: cogniti

Re: Re: Re: The unpredictability of solar energy

Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy A more powwerful way to steal from the future is to continue govt spending as it is. But to get back to the issue, I'll let the market decide. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/14/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen -

Re: Re: Re: MWI as an ontological error, it should be TwoAspects Theory

Hi Craig Weinberg Why not ? There are gravitational waves. But earthquakes usually initiate waves by the sudden release of potential energy. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/14/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following conten

Re: Re: Re: Re: Subjective states can be somehow extracted frombrainsviaacomputer

Time: 2013-01-11, 14:07:13 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Subjective states can be somehow extracted frombrainsviaacomputer Right. Monads are below the quantum level and you have argued, correctly I think, that not even quantum waves are physical. However, monads may have a complex structure as you say

Re: Re: Re: Whoever invented the word "God" invented atheism.

Hi Richard Ruquist OK, He would work. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/12/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-11, 13:54:47 Subject: Re: Re: Whoev

Re: Re: Re: Subjective states can be somehow extracted from brainsviaacomputer

Right. Monads are below the quantum level and you have argued, correctly I think, that not even quantum waves are physical. However, monads may have a complex structure as you say below and string theory derives what that complex structure looks like including the super EM flux that may be what st

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

BEC condensates may contain any kind of particle, not just physicsl particles. However, we presume that the mathematics is more or less the same for all BECs and therefore we can come to understand BECs with physical experiments. Presumably monads are particles, seeing that they are discrete and se

Re: Re: Re: Are EM waves and/or their fields physical ?

Hi Richard Ruquist The monads are not BEC's, because presumably BECs are physical. Monads aren't [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/11/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard Ruquist Receiver: everyt

Re: Re: Re: Subjective states can be somehow extracted from brainsviaacomputer

Hi Richard Ruquist For the umpteenth time, monads are not physical, they cannot be some kind of product of EM waves. [Roger Clough], [rclo...@verizon.net] 1/11/2013 "Forever is a long time, especially near the end." - Woody Allen - Receiving the following content - From: Richard

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.

From: Platonist Guitar Cowboy Receiver: everything-list Time: 2013-01-08, 11:07:17 Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so. Hi Roger, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough wrote: Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy ? Better data connected to opinion th

Re: Re: Re: Re: Is Sheldrake credible ? I personally think so.

Hi Roger, On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Roger Clough wrote: > Hi Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > Better data connected to opinion than opinion alone. > > How is opinion not connected to data? Have you found a way of neatly separating the information and data from opinion and beliefs? If you hav

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