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»Rob« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 09:45:56 + :
Why do you despise Perl
»Franki« sagte am 2002-02-22 um 16:36:59 +0800 :
and I'd have to say that perl and php don't really differ that much in
server load or speed.
Well, that's only true if you compare cgi-bin Perl (which most of the
hosters only offer) to cgi-bin PHP (which very few hosters offer). If
you compare
, we'd have more to say :-)
rgds
Frank
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»Franki« sagte am 2002-02-22 um 16:36:59
»Franki« sagte am 2002-02-22 um 18:43:20 +0800 :
when I said system stuff, I meant more complete DB interfaces and the
like...
I still don't understand. What do you mean by more complete DB
interfaces? In PHP, I can very easily use MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle,
ODBC Or what do you mean?
Hi out there !
Adding some comments to the backend-part of the debate
(the frontend-part circling around PERL and PHP ;-) ):
Postgres and MySQL, features, platforms...
Just two things which haven't been mentioned yet:
* There IS also a win32-version for Postgresql. It is
included in the
, including Postgres.
That's the open source way. :)
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Why not? At best its just a compatabilty
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 20:57, Alexander Skwar wrote:
And while I also very much love PHP (and despise Perl for web
development), it's also very easy to switch the DB backend in Perl,
thanks to the nice DBI package.
Why do you despise Perl then ?
No flame wars please.
Just intrested.
On Thursday 21 February 2002 00:27, you wrote:
I'm having a helluva time trying to get xmbase-grok to work correctly.
I first tried the 1.5 source install.
Try version 1.4.3 Runs fine over here on lesstif
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»Rob« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 09:45:56 + :
Why do you despise Perl then ?
I simply do not like it. For web applications, I find PHP *way* easier
(and with most setups: faster) to use. Most of the time, there isn't
mod_perl available, so perl scripts cause a *HUGE* load on the server.
»Joseph Braddock« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 19:16:20 -0600 :
I'd have to concur with Rob. Postgres seems to be a very feature rich and stable
database. We are looking to moving some of our Oracle databases to it. MySQL seems
to get much more press, but it simply lacks many features required
»Joseph Braddock« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 19:16:20 -0600 :
I'd have to concur with Rob. Postgres seems to be a very feature rich
and stable database. We are looking to moving some of our Oracle
Well, MySQL *has* transactions and stored procedures (not as good as
Oracles, though). And I
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On Wednesday 20 February 2002 20:57, Alexander Skwar wrote:
And while I also very much love PHP (and despise Perl for web
development), it's also very easy to switch the DB backend in Perl,
thanks to the nice DBI
, February 21, 2002 7:04 AM
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»Joseph Braddock« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 19:16:20 -0600 :
I'd have to concur with Rob. Postgres seems to be a very
feature rich and stable database. We are looking to moving some
of our Oracle databases
»Aron Pilhofer« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 09:44:17 -0500 :
I won't speak for Alexander, but for my part, I find perl syntax to be
slightly less confusing than Sanskrit. But, in the interests of full
ACK
right now. I tried to learn perl, but I just couldn't. PHP I just... I don't
know... got.
»Aron Pilhofer« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 09:45:54 -0500 :
I don't think that's right, Alexander. Transactions, yes, but I have heard a
What's not right? Depending on the table there are transactions - but I
also haven't used 'em. And stored procedures are available in the form
of myperl - which
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»Aron Pilhofer« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 09:45:54 -0500 :
I don't think that's right, Alexander. Transactions, yes, but I
have heard a
What's not right? Depending
»Aron Pilhofer« sagte am 2002-02-21 um 10:41:36 -0500 :
I'd call myperl more of a third-party workaround than true stored procedure
Yes, that's right.
feature I really, truely need. There is no support for subqueries, that I
know.
Yes, that's also right.
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get into here,
simply eliminates PG as an option for me - at least for the applications I
am working on.
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Could very well be, but at the time we were evaluating, they were in beta and that
wasn't an option. Since I haven't had to do any projects with MySQL, lately, I
haven't kept up. As such, I should have said that at the time we evaluated it, it
didn't meet our needs. Thanks for the update.
Try postgres and mySQL for starters.
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From: Harold Hartley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:16:50 -0800
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I was wondering how many database software is there available for linux
and what the names
On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 11:16, Harold Hartley wrote:
I was wondering how many database software is there available for linux
and what the names of them may be..
Harold
Harold,
There are quite a few, most of which I can't recall off the top of my
head, but the two most used are MySQL, and
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 13:43, Harold wrote:
And of
course if you're a self proclaimed masacist you could always take a look
at Postgres.
Postgres (in my experience) has always been very stable and easy
to learn and use. Probably the most so of all RDBMs I have used.
I dont know what
»Rob« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 11:11:21 + :
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 13:43, Harold wrote:
^^
No, Harold did not say this. Please learn to quote correctly!
Alexander Skwar
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True.
My mistake.
Sorry Harold.
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 12:00, you wrote:
»Rob« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 11:11:21 + :
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 13:43, Harold wrote:
^^
No, Harold did not say this. Please learn to quote correctly!
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Rob wrote:
Postgres (in my experience) has always been very stable and easy
to learn and use. Probably the most so of all RDBMs I have used.
I dont know what experience (or closed minded ?? viewpoint) Harold
has to justify masocism in regard to postgres (maybee he used a
Naish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Try postgres and mySQL for starters.
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:16:50 -0800
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Rob wrote:
Postgres (in my experience) has always been very stable and easy
to learn and use. Probably the most so of all RDBMs I have used.
I dont know what experience (or closed minded ?? viewpoint) Harold
has to justify masocism
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 16:35, you wrote:
I'm using Postgres now as the backend to my library (about 2,000 books,
300 CDs).
Wow, that's like swatting a mosquito with a cruise missile. If anyone
needs only a simple flat-file database for personal use, try xmbase-grok:
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Aron Pilhofer wrote:
Just FYI, (almost) any script written in PHP for mysql can be adapted quite
easily for any RDBM, including Postgres. That's one of the really nice
things about PHP, IMHO.
At the time I was writing the library scripts I didn't know much about
PHP.
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Michel Clasquin wrote:
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 16:35, you wrote:
I'm using Postgres now as the backend to my library (about 2,000 books,
300 CDs).
Wow, that's like swatting a mosquito with a cruise missile. If anyone
needs only a simple flat-file database for
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 19:51, you wrote:
If anyone
needs only a simple flat-file database for personal use, try
xmbase-grok:
Interesting program. How is its performance with large data files?
Haven't tried it with anything major, but I suspect performance would
start to suffer
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 02:08 am, you wrote:
Try postgres and mySQL for starters.
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Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:16:50 -0800
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I was wondering how many database
»Aron Pilhofer« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 12:19:56 -0500 :
Just FYI, (almost) any script written in PHP for mysql can be adapted quite
easily for any RDBM, including Postgres. That's one of the really nice
things about PHP, IMHO.
Well, in *theory*, you're right. But this holds only so long
.
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»Aron Pilhofer« sagte am 2002-02-20 um 12:19:56 -0500 :
Just FYI, (almost) any script written
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Michel Clasquin wrote:
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 19:51, you wrote:
If anyone
needs only a simple flat-file database for personal use, try
xmbase-grok:
Interesting program. How is its performance with large data files?
Haven't tried it with anything major,
The developer offered some help and suggested a possible entry in my
.Xdefaults. This didn't fix the error though. He believes it to be a
config error on my part.
Ah yes, the old when in doubt, blame the user gambit. ;)
But seriously, is there any reason you wouldn't want to use MySQL/Postgres?
I'd have to concur with Rob. Postgres seems to be a very feature rich and stable
database. We are looking to moving some of our Oracle databases to it. MySQL seems
to get much more press, but it simply lacks many features required for serious
database use (stored procedures, transactions,
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Aron Pilhofer wrote:
The developer offered some help and suggested a possible entry in my
.Xdefaults. This didn't fix the error though. He believes it to be a
config error on my part.
Ah yes, the old when in doubt, blame the user gambit. ;)
Works for me :)
But
»Harold Hartley« sagte am 2002-02-19 um 08:16:50 -0800 :
I was wondering how many database software is there available for linux
hmm, i can think of 4 right now.
and what the names of them may be..
mysql, postgresql, oracle, cache
Alexander Skwar
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From: Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]
»Harold Hartley« sagte am 2002-02-19 um 08:16:50 -0800 :
I was wondering how many database software is there available for linux
hmm, i can think of 4 right now.
and what the names of them may be..
mysql, postgresql, oracle, cache
Also Informix,
MySQL, PostgreSQL, Oracle (i believe), DB2, dbMetrix, Informix-SE,
Interbase, jBASE, mSQL, Znd
check out: http://www.linux.org/apps/all/Office/Database.html
Chad
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PostgreSQL and MySQL are databases for Linux.
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Harold Hartley wrote:
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PostgreSQL and MySQL are databases for Linux.
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also sybase, DB3, and Ingres.
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 13:41, you wrote:
»Harold Hartley« sagte am 2002-02-19 um 08:16:50 -0800 :
I was wondering how many database software is there available for linux
hmm, i can think of 4 right now.
and what the names of them may be..
mysql,
Also Interbase, mSQL, and SapDB
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also sybase, DB3, and Ingres.
On Tuesday 19 February 2002 13:41, you wrote:
»Harold Hartley« sagte am
Pervasive has a Linux version also. I am sure this list will just keep
growing as everyone chimes in :)
On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 08:51, Mike Leone wrote:
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»Harold Hartley« sagte am 2002-02-19 um 08:16:50 -0800 :
I was wondering how many database software
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