[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread Ingegerd
I have a question about Vastu. We have heard about the benefits of Vastus for years. MMY once said that building just one Vastu would be of great benefit for the country. Except for the house in Vlodrop where MMY lives, has the TMO ever build a Vastu? MMY and his family has enough money to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Four locations to radiate peace from sunrise to sunset

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone only allows yes-men to stay around, then they get what they want. And what they deserve. Karmically and in every other sense...

[FairfieldLife] Re: World's tallest tower planned in India- link attached

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cold Water [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This Plan is Cancelled. The area of Jabalpur lies in an EarthQuake active zone. Hence, the Indian government has rejected the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an idea. The experience of awakening is very real, very visceral. It is profoundly based in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Not if what the 'teachersez' is a spontaneous upadesha aimed directly at what you are experiencing. These are intimate matters and if truly compassionate they will hit

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced satsang (and that's wise because you'd never be able to handle it). Handle it meaning, according to Barry, accepting what the authorities tell you. Not

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this self-trust thing in regard to realization is a bit off. Trust is an emotional/mental assumptive act. You have to trust when

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: The idea you are not enlightened is not an experience it is an idea.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced satsang... snip (And in this case, if he had been paying attention, he would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read this entire thread, something I would not normally do, and I declare my brain to be well and truly fried. The really interesting part for me is this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:40 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 9:51 AM, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: The idea you are not

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis Be specific please. What do you know and how does it appear in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reaction formation. They're actually crazy about each other! ;-) Actually, I do kinda admire Judy's intellect. She's often smart and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:40 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Same question, then: where and how is the experience of not being enlightened felt in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature

2005-08-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
--This is not my idea of who Jesus was. The trouble with spouting doctrine, or dogma, written from the Greek and Latin, and melting down through time, by Religious Dictator, Ceasears, Emperors, Politicians(like BushCo,), is that it is all about control, and black and white. These doctrines

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 11:36 AM, jim_flanegin wrote: Rather, the reason that I posed the question was because of my personal belief based on experience, that if the idea or experience of being unawakened can be identified

[FairfieldLife] Re: MSNBC.com Article: Man dies after 50 hours of computer games

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man dies after 50 hours of computer games A South Korean man who played computer games for 50 hours almost non- stop died of heart failure minutes after finishing his mammoth session in an Internet cafe,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you guys would really like to see some kind of repressed romance in Barry's and my relationship, but that would be BEEG mistake. As Barry himself is fond of saying, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Testing for God In December of last year, Nature magazine, depending on how you view it either the first or second most important science publication in the world, published an article headlined Buddhism on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Still got that damned intellect baby hanging around, no matter how I try to get rid of the little bastid. You've no doubt heard the

[FairfieldLife] Re: MSNBC.com Article: Man dies after 50 hours of computer games

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Llundrub wrote: Man dies after 50 hours of computer games A South Korean man who played computer games for 50 hours almost non-stop died of heart failure minutes after finishing his mammoth session in an Internet

[FairfieldLife] Re: World's tallest tower planned in India- link attached

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tremendous evidence of how TM dimishes the ego. (Not!) TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: World's tallest tower planned in India- link attached

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tremendous evidence of how TM dimishes the ego. (Not!) TM doesn't diminish the ego, it allows it to become

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 1:54 PM, jyouells2000 wrote: In all likelyhood, the real reason that Maharishi stopped comming to the US was the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kjdruhl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends, let me just answer to some of your points: [...] TM is based on the release of spiritual power. If it would be just matter of keeping the mind restful and alert, why the instruction to come immediately

[FairfieldLife] Re: Thru and thru dilettante analysis of RV I 164, 39 ; part 5

2005-08-12 Thread cardemaister
Rco akSare parame vyoman(,) *yasmin* devaa(H)... (Contrary to what we earlier stated, the nominative singular form of 'vyoman' is 'vyoma', not 'vyomaa', because it's a neuter gender word, not masculine, as we misrecalled. Thus it's analogous to 'karman' whose nom. sing. is 'karma', as we all

[FairfieldLife] 'Jesus says:'I am the Light, and Look for Me Within, Not in a book'

2005-08-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
--This is not my idea of who Jesus was. The trouble with spouting doctrine, or dogma, written from the Greek and Latin, and melting down through time, by Religious Dictator, Ceasears, Emperors, Politicians(like BushCo,), is that it is all about control, and black and white. These

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vedic bonds? I don't think so! No reputable or disreputable financial institution is going to touch anything in the movement. They'll do their due diligence and very quickly conclude that the TMO and MMY are profoundly

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No is the correct answer, as far as I'm concerned. But there are donors out there who I'm sure will swear on a stack of Gitas that this will be

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely zero, I believe is Peter's point. Com'n...certainly we can assign SOME sort of discount factor to those bonds, no? 50%? 10%?

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
--I heard that Maharishi stopped coming to the United States, because he felt it had become too dangerous here, and he didn't want to be sacrificed in that way.(as he has done the martyer thing in a past time, been there, done that); In those days, the Pope had been shot, as well as Reagan..

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question about Vastu. We have heard about the benefits of Vastus for years. MMY once said that building just one Vastu would be of great benefit for the country. Except for the house in Vlodrop where MMY

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Compare and contrast to the TMO's history of projects like Vedaland, the new world's tallest building, etc. Same business model -- get naive people excited enough about a project to invest money in it, have the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature

2005-08-12 Thread Robert Gimbel
The whole gift of the teaching of Maharishi, is based on the meaninglessness of the Mantra, and the efforlessness, of the technique. You see, in India, the people there do worship the different aspects of the Deity, through puja, and repetitive repetition of names of God. But that is not

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damned if ya do, damned if ya don't... Time to transcend! I don't know if you meant that seriously

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely, though I'd go with other than the Mothers. I enjoyed Frank's creative streak but his music was just too weird. Peaches en regalia (sp?) was the only song I really liked, because it had *gasp!* a

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you ever have a girlfriend that knew that if she dug her nails in your ass as you were about to cum it would totally ruin the experience

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8/11/05 6:53 PM, jim_flanegin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the Mothers in Greenwich Village in about 1966. Ritchie Havens opened for them. Great night. I once saw the Mothers when Eric Clapton sat in and

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And in this case, if he had been paying attention, he would know I have indeed experienced it.) Ok. In exactly what spiritual tradition

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's pretty obvious that you have never experienced

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this conversation is with Tom, and I honestly don't want to get in the way of it, but just as a question, which do you think comes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reaction formation. They're actually crazy about each other! ;-)

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And in this case, if he had been paying attention, he would

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this conversation is with Tom, and I honestly don't want

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I heard that Maharishi stopped coming to the United States, because he felt it had become too dangerous here, and he didn't want to be sacrificed in that way.(as he has done the martyer thing in a past time,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO, it's really the key issue in many ways. Does a person's world view state that the thing that keeps them from realizing enlightenment

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Interesting story. Absolutely. On one level, Just Another Story. However, there are really *two* stories above. If one keeps telling oneself

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
On Aug 12, 2005, at 2:54 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 11, 2005, at 10:16 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Not if what the 'teachersez' is a spontaneous upadesha aimed directly at what you are experiencing. These are intimate matters and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote: Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain. What happened to the consciousness is primary; matter is secondary spiel? Sounds like a scientific materialist talking. Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote: Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain. What happened to the consciousness is primary; matter is secondary spiel? Sounds like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature

2005-08-12 Thread Llundrub
Before Kai thinks Maharishi possessed him he needs to go to a Gospel Church. - Original Message - From: Cliff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature One delusional "true

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM and Christianity: PBS feature

2005-08-12 Thread Llundrub
Leave the poor guy alone. Christians are dualists. It's not his decision to make. They live in a belief system where Satan, not God, rules the world. This is why he was attracted to his version of Christianity. Instead of finding his contorted facial tics within his own nature and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread Llundrub
Sad, but true? Hahahahhathat's fucked up Cliff. - Original Message - From: Cliff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter Maybe pundit labor will be offered as collateral?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread Llundrub
But if one is to be a slave, it's best to be a slave to love. Oh cosmic divine grace of Maharishi. Humng? - Original Message - From: Cliff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 10:51 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote: Everything is physical. Consciousness is the product of the functioning of the brain. What happened to the consciousness

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread Peter
--- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I heard that Maharishi stopped coming to the United States, because he felt it had become too dangerous here, and he didn't want to be sacrificed in that way.(as he has done the martyer thing in a past time, been there, done that); In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread Peter
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely zero, I believe is Peter's point. Com'n...certainly we can assign SOME sort of discount factor to those bonds, no? 50%? 10%? Even 1%? Well, maybe

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread scienceofabundance
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely not! He stopped coming to the US because of the lawsuits. He's in Holland because of financial troubles in India. And at least one the reasons the TMO relocated from Switzerland was that the authorities began

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I heard that Maharishi stopped coming to the United States, because he felt it had become too dangerous here, and he didn't want to be sacrificed in that way.(as he

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you guys would really like to see some kind of repressed romance in Barry's and my relationship, but that would be BEEG mistake. As

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread Llundrub
Knock knock knock, two guys in suits -Hellow there neighbor. Have you heard the message of our savior? -Jesus?- -No... (frowns...crinkled foreheads)Maharishi. Jesus was the savior of the Piscean age. But for the age of Aquarius Maharishi is the savior. Which rock hath thou hidden

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Interesting story. Absolutely. On one level, Just Another Story.

[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (And in this case, if he had been paying attention, he would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this conversation is with Tom, and I honestly don't want

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma

2005-08-12 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --I heard that Maharishi stopped coming to the United States, because he felt it had become too dangerous here, and he didn't want to be sacrificed in that way.(as he has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's all a matter of predilection and prefer- ence, in my opinion. Some people cling to the stories that reinforce that they're not enlightened and that this isn't under their control. Others prefer the stories

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote: Everything is physical. Consciousness is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
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[FairfieldLife] Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlightenment? (was Re: 'Jagger)

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damned if ya do, damned if ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wasn't about what prevents one from being enlightened but rather what ignorance feels like in the body. I love the way you put ignorance in quotes here, Judy! And wonder what would happen if one ceased to label

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You can't have human

[FairfieldLife] Here and now boys

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
That's what they had trained all the parrots to say in Aldous Huxley's Island. It was a pretty neat idea. Anyway, here and now I'm back in Paris but still on vacation, so I went to see an exhibit I'd been reading about that was showing at la Musée Guimet. This is one of the best museums in

[FairfieldLife] Shakerleg

2005-08-12 Thread Peter
Thought some of you might enjoy this guy. Reminds me of why I love NYC so much. I bought his CD. Good stuff. www.shakerleg.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, authfriend wrote: You're confounding consciousness with mind. To completely different things. Are you suggesting one can have human consciousness without a body? The word for Unity Consciousness is actually videha-mukti or bodiless liberation. I'm sure an

[FairfieldLife] Re: message from Raja of NY Paul Potter

2005-08-12 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vedic bonds? I don't think so! No reputable or disreputable financial institution is going to touch anything in the movement. They'll do their due

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wasn't about what prevents one from being enlightened but rather what ignorance feels like in the body. I love the way you put

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here and now boys

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Finally, you realize that the only way to truly apprec- iate the foreground Buddha is just to relax and hang out in the optimum viewing spot and and appreciate the foreground Buddha as he dances in front of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, authfriend wrote: You're confounding consciousness with mind. To completely different things. Are you suggesting one can have human consciousness without a body? The word for Unity

Re: [FairfieldLife] Here and now boys

2005-08-12 Thread Llundrub
That's neat. Thanks for sharing. - Original Message - From: TurquoiseB To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Here and now boys That's what they had trained all the parrots tosay in Aldous Huxley's "Island." It was a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Here and now boys

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's neat. Thanks for sharing. I was thinking of you a lot when I was in the museum this morning. You'd just fucking DIG IT, man. Large, wonderful halls full of Himalayan Buddhist Art (my faves), but also a whole museum

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm afraid there are limits to my imagination. It's simply a matter of attending innocently to the sensations, allowing them to breathe -- a way to unravel our learned-response- story that they are bad or ignorance :-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
On Aug 12, 2005, at 10:08 AM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, authfriend wrote: You're confounding consciousness with mind. To completely different things. Are you suggesting one can have human

[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 3:30 AM, sparaig wrote: Everything is physical. Consciousness is the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enlighte

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know you guys would really like to see some kind of repressed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is trusting oneself a prerequisite for enli

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, authfriend wrote: You're confounding consciousness with mind. To completely different things. Are you suggesting one can have human consciousness without a body? The word for Unity

[FairfieldLife] Great Dharma read

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
x-tad-smallerThe book is very carefully researched and clearly explains many Buddhist concepts found within Tantra and Dzogchen. It is also the most thorough discussion of Tibetan Buddhist pilgrimage that I have run across. And the the story of his one pointed quest in incredibly difficult

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Shambhala Sun article: Two Sciences of Mind

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
On Aug 12, 2005, at 10:40 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, authfriend wrote: You're confounding consciousness with mind. To completely different things. Are you suggesting one can have human consciousness

[FairfieldLife] Re: Great Dharma read

2005-08-12 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The book is very carefully researched and clearly explains many Buddhist concepts found within Tantra and Dzogchen. It is also the most thorough discussion of Tibetan Buddhist pilgrimage that I have run across. And the the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Great Dharma read

2005-08-12 Thread Vaj
On Aug 12, 2005, at 10:57 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Many thanks. Ordered it immediately from Amazon, because I have his earlier The Dalai Lama's Secret Temple: Tantric Wall Paintings from Tibet, and it's superb. Yes a favorite of mine as well and probably the most incredible artistic record

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