[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR STARCH

2005-08-17 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Just killing time...VI 16

2005-08-17 Thread cardemaister
Loads of examples of interesting sandhis: naatyashnatas tu yogo' sti na caikaantam anashnataH na caati svapna-shiilasya jaagrato naiva caarjuna (na; ati; ashnataH; tu; yogaH; asti; na; ca; ekaantam; anashnataH; na; ca; ati; svapna-shiilasya; jaagrataH; na; eva; ca; arjuna) Maharishi's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma (Mocking the Master)

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am speaking mostly of healings, consciousness-shifts and the like -- in which the observer/healee has a very important part to play. Other sidhis, like weather-changing, appear to depend much less on whoever is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hell that you speak of and the realm that is sought to control, is right here on the earth; as you can observe in the miriad hellish situations and conditions, on this planet at the present time, and in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I would like to ask all the awakened ones on this group about how many have had similar stories in their lives, and how many were

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the only way through misery to experience the expanse of life as good is to recognize its elemental goodness and realize that it's the mere delusory evaluation of the intellect which ascribes values to nature,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 16, 2005, at 6:15 PM, sparaig wrote: Don't know about the Hindu/Tibetan hells, but the Christian hell is often considered impossible to escape from, or at least exceedingly difficult. Time is very slow there.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Anyone against abortion in order to choose gender?

2005-08-17 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, if abortion on demand is okay with you, certainly you have no objections to abortions in order to determine the gender of your child, do you? In other words, if you're looking to have excellent male offspring

[FairfieldLife] The Original Chinese Fake

2005-08-17 Thread Jason Spock
The Original Chinese Fake A rivetting, first league biography of Mao, that tells the man from the self-manufactured myth, says Ashok MalikPosted online: Sunday, July 31, 2005 IT is a measure of just how thoroughly Jung Chang and Jon Halliday researched their subject that their

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
What amazes me about this particular run-on piece of rhetoric is that none of the True Believers who read it seem to be standing up and saying, Hey! Wait a cotton-picking minute! Isn't this the exact OPPOSITE message than the one you started the TM movement with? The orginial message was one of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Peeps, It's been real fun but tomorrow I'm going on vacation for two weeks so try to get through the day without me. Love - Llundrub Have fun, dude. We'll struggle by without you...

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
And accurate. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was funny. - Original Message - From: Peter To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] news from Global country Starting

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starting to sound like a Dr. Bronner's Soap label! And every bit as true!!! Seriously, this is what MMY has said for decades, just not quite as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Granted both Heaven and Hell exist here on Earth. Nonetheless, each seems to exist separately too. Does anyone have a book to recommend that would enumerate and describe a cognition of them, with distinct

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote something that ended in this quote: The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly has made the world evil and ugly. -Edgar Allen Poe Compare and contrast to the newest proclamations from the TMO. It states that

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are only allowed to read the following paragraph on one in- breath! Will future TMers, trying to distance themselves from the craziness of Maharishi's last days, claim I didn't inhale? :-) --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country The Big E...

2005-08-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
--You are right, about the beginning of the movement; and it's original intention: Spiritual Regeneration. And it was said, that all you need to do, was TM twice a day, etc., etc. Now, it does seem, like there are other aspects to the whole thing; framed in the Revival of the Vedic Knowledge.

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread Robert Gimbel
Have you thought of addressing this particular issue to Maharishi, by posing a question at the weekly news conference? A couple other questions; why is so much emphasis placed on the flying sutra, and why is it so important to gain mastery over gravity. Why is it that flying is pushed so hard,

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you thought of addressing this particular issue to Maharishi, by posing a question at the weekly news conference? Maharishi [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maharishi [EMAIL PROTECTED], I have not, because 1) I somehow

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Love/Hate Maharishi

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally the goal was stated as: Spiritual Regeneration of the World; And that still seems like the best way to frame the goal, if we are seeking an enlightened world. In my mind this idea of Spiritual

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Hate Maharishi/I Love Maharishi...

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was in school, public school, I remember they read a passage from the Bible, sometimes in the morning; I rather enjoyed that

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR STARCH

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR STARCH

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I would like to ask all the awakened ones on this group

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What amazes me about this particular run-on piece of rhetoric is that none of the True Believers who read it seem to be standing up and saying, Hey! Wait a cotton-picking minute! Isn't this the exact OPPOSITE message

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starting to sound like a Dr. Bronner's Soap label! And every bit as

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote something that ended in this quote: The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly has made the world evil and ugly. -Edgar Allen Poe

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you thought of addressing this particular issue to Maharishi, by posing a question at the weekly news conference? A couple other questions; why is so much emphasis placed on the flying sutra, and why is it

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem isn't even with the ignorant masses; it's with the buildings they live in; nothing can really be done to enlighten the world until all these bad buildings are torn down and replaced with good buildings. That's

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR STARCH

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My money is on the skinny, white-haired, semi-bald guy's organization, not the people who denounce him constantly. Literally. There is a bottom line here that you seem to be missing. Those on this forum who criticize

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. If one is open to the notion of selfless service, and of forgetting self for a little while, tending the dying can be the highest

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably because -- as you pointed out so stingingly and correctly a few days back when commenting on the *embarrassingly* naive world

[FairfieldLife] Re: SUGAR STARCH

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My money is on the skinny, white-haired, semi-bald guy's organization, not the people who denounce him constantly. Literally. I have no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trip to Holland

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. If one is open to the notion of selfless service, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's probably because -- as you pointed out so stingingly and

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem isn't even with the ignorant masses; it's with the buildings they live in; nothing can really be done to enlighten the world until all

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] The problem isn't even with the ignorant masses; it's with the

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for tolerance of others' beliefs and cultures, eh? Speaking of tolerance of others' beliefs and cultures, have you *thought through* this silly rebuild the world as vastu idea? Maharishi has put himself on record

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus!

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So much for tolerance of others' beliefs and cultures, eh? Speaking of tolerance of others' beliefs and cultures, have you *thought through*

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOu just have a need to knock MMY, his beliefs and his actions, I think. Yes, I understand that you have a need to think that, in general and given

[FairfieldLife] The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
I've been thinking about this vastu thang, and what I've come up with is that it's a dying man's attempt to give to the students who will outlive him what he's always enjoyed while living -- a perfect excuse for never having to follow through on one's dreams and promises and pronouncements. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about this vastu thang, and what I've come up with is that it's a dying man's attempt to give to the students who will outlive him what he's always enjoyed while living -- a perfect excuse for never

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about this vastu thang, and what I've come up with is that it's a dying man's attempt to give to the students who will

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] YOu just have a need to knock MMY, his beliefs and his actions, I think.

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Time is relative)

2005-08-17 Thread Vaj
On Aug 17, 2005, at 1:57 AM, John wrote: I believe there is no time outside of the relative universe. According to a Christian mystic by the name of Swedenbourg, there is no time in heaven and angels have no conception of time. The heavenly hosts only perceive changes in blissful events as

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In essence, what MMY has done is hedge his bets. His organization IS going to create the groups of 8,000 and 40,000 if at all possible, but he's warning that there is no guarantee that this will be enough to achieve

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] In essence, what MMY has done is hedge his bets. His organization IS going to create the groups of 8,000 and 40,000 if at all possible, but he's warning that there is no guarantee that this will be enough to

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In essence, what MMY has done is hedge his bets. His organization IS going to create the groups of 8,000 and 40,000 if at all possible, but

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome to believe this. Personally I don't. The goal of 8000 butt-bouncers could have been achieved decades ago if Maharishi had

[FairfieldLife] Re: American karma (Mocking the Master)

2005-08-17 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am speaking mostly of healings, consciousness-shifts and the like -- in which the observer/healee has a very important part to play.

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Starting to sound like a Dr. Bronner's Soap label! And every bit as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread Vaj
On Aug 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, sparaig wrote: In other words, its the ultimate busy-work for the TMO: he's just assigned them an impossible task that will keep the organization (assuming anyone, in the long run, embraces the goal that has been set) busy for the next few hundreds or thousands

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread Peter
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, sparaig wrote: In other words, its the ultimate busy-work for the TMO: he's just assigned them an impossible task that will keep the organization (assuming anyone, in the long run, embraces the goal that has been set)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread Vaj
On Aug 17, 2005, at 8:17 AM, Peter wrote: The first would be to drop the price of starting TM. Then they should introduce Maharishi NASCAR and Maharishi Ayurvedic cigars. The huge republican influx will revitalize the movement . ;-))) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are welcome to believe this. Personally I don't. The goal of

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The original message was that nothing in one's environ- ment

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY says that the sidhis are challenges to enlightenment that need to be overcome (in order to strengthen the link between relative and absolute). On the inward stroke they are obstacles to samadhi. On the outward stroke, they are

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, sparaig wrote: In other words, its the ultimate busy-work for the TMO: he's just assigned them an impossible task that will keep the organization (assuming anyone, in the long run, embraces

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, sparaig wrote: In other words, its the ultimate busy-work for the TMO: he's just assigned them an impossible task that will keep the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 7:25 AM, sparaig wrote: In other words, its the ultimate busy-work for the TMO: he's just assigned them an impossible task that will keep the organization (assuming anyone, in the long run, embraces

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY says that the sidhis are challenges to enlightenment that need to be overcome (in order to strengthen the link between relative and absolute). On the

[FairfieldLife] Re: I Hate Maharishi

2005-08-17 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 15, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Peter wrote: So on the other hand..perhaps lineages are important. Like a mantra, a vehicle to ride until it is ultimately transcended. It has its utility until full Realization then

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Bliss of the Unrealizable Goal

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
On the other hand, it may be exactly as I have said: MMY is creating an extremely hardcore group of believers that he can hand over to King Tony when he dies. In other words, he's precipitated the inevitable post-MMY conflict within the TMO *before* he departs so that King Tony won't have to

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
In other words, the TMO has shifted from being a Tantric movement to being a Vedic movement, or from anti-establishment mysticism to pro-establishment religiosity This seems to be the standard path of pretty much every spiritual impulse over time, doesn't it? It would

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY says that the sidhis are challenges to enlightenment that need to be overcome (in order to strengthen the link

[FairfieldLife] Re: news from Global country

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In other words, the TMO has shifted from being a Tantric movement to being a Vedic movement, or from anti- establishment mysticism to pro-establishment religiosity This seems to be the standard path

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip MMY says that the sidhis are challenges

[FairfieldLife] Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
The claim that all the world's buildings need to be demolished in order to ensure world peace should be seen in light of the idealized description of the process found here: http://www.maharishi-india.org/programmes/p4/msv_reconstruction.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [FairfieldLife] Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread Vaj
On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:12 AM, sparaig wrote: I read lots of folks on this forum who say that MMY's grandiose schemes yield nothing. Perhaps people familiar with Nepal can tell me if the TMO ever did teach virtually all prison inmates to meditate as was claimed? If so, did the prison system

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] YOgic Flying is expected to eventually bring about floating. The spiritual benefit of Yogic FLying is allegedly obtained by performing the technique with at least *some* expectation, even subconscious, about the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:12 AM, sparaig wrote: I read lots of folks on this forum who say that MMY's grandiose schemes yield nothing. Perhaps people familiar with Nepal can tell me if the TMO ever did teach virtually all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:12 AM, sparaig wrote: I read lots of folks on this forum who say that MMY's grandiose schemes yield nothing. Perhaps people familiar with Nepal can tell me if the TMO ever did teach virtually all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I Love/Hate Maharishi

2005-08-17 Thread Llundrub
The problem is with the wording. -The World- doesn't need spiritual regeneration. Nor do all the people. Some people need spiritual regeneration. - Original Message - From: Robert Gimbel To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:50 AM Subject:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The claim that all the world's buildings need to be demolished in order to ensure world peace should be seen in light of the idealized description of the process found here:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 12:12 AM, sparaig wrote: I read lots of folks on this forum who say that MMY's grandiose schemes yield nothing. Perhaps people familiar with Nepal can tell me if the TMO ever did teach virtually all

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] Interesting since the TMO already taught everyone who wasin the prisons TM. Who are the Vipassana people teaching and how did they get around the Mullah's outlawing of meditation in the prisons? Senegal, not Nepal.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-17 Thread Llundrub
I will miss your humour and your serious part. Enjoy your vacation!Ingegerd---Thanks Inga Guard - Great Mantra Protectoresse. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The claim that all the world's buildings need to be demolished in order to ensure world peace should be seen in light of the idealized

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread Vaj
On Aug 17, 2005, at 9:04 AM, sparaig wrote: Interesting since the TMO already taught everyone who wasin the prisons TM. Who are the Vipassana people teaching and how did they get around the Mullah's outlawing of meditation in the prisons? see http://www.prison.dhamma.org/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The claim that all the world's buildings need to be demolished in order to ensure world peace should be seen in light of the idealized description

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vacation

2005-08-17 Thread Llundrub
Have fun, dude. We'll struggle by without you...More like without me, come to my realizations yourselves and not have me to blame them on. Hehe... Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join

[FairfieldLife] Re: Nepal prisons?

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 17, 2005, at 9:04 AM, sparaig wrote: Interesting since the TMO already taught everyone who wasin the prisons TM. Who are the Vipassana people teaching and how did they get around the Mullah's outlawing of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind

2005-08-17 Thread Llundrub
"The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly has made the world evil and ugly." -Edgar Allen PoeCompare and contrast to the newest proclamations fromthe TMO. It states that the problem with the world is that it is (from a vastu point of view) evil and ugly.The only real

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's YOU who are stuck in defensive mode, dude. It's like the moment your life got complicated, you felt the need to cling to TM and its

[FairfieldLife] Just a final thought

2005-08-17 Thread Llundrub
Gadzooks To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management

[FairfieldLife] Re: ] Lost in your own mind/Meditating Buildings.

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip It's YOU who are stuck in defensive mode, dude. It's like

[FairfieldLife] Re: Just a final thought

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gadzooks Who is this zooks fellow, and why do you consider Him to be a gad? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The claim that all the world's buildings need to be demolished in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Defending the Status Quo

2005-08-17 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week Kelly Kirkpatrick did try with an editorial published on the Fairfield Ledger's opinion page (Thurs Aug11-05). It was a noteworthy piece to pop up on the opinion page because it does show a mind

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Granted both Heaven and Hell exist here on Earth. Nonetheless, each seems to exist separately too. Does anyone have a book to recommend

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
I don't see any reason why there couldn't be as much variation among buildings designed on Sthapatya- Vedic principles as there is in any style of architecture. For that matter, it seems to me S-V principles could be adapted to many *different* styles of architecture, so there would be

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Defending the Status Quo

2005-08-17 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last week Kelly Kirkpatrick did try with an editorial published on the Fairfield Ledger's opinion page (Thurs Aug11-05). It was a noteworthy piece to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the best approach to bring to any study of the different lokas or planes of existence is that they *don't* have physical

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any reason why there couldn't be as much variation among buildings designed on Sthapatya- Vedic principles as there is in any style of architecture. For that matter, it seems to me S-V principles

[FairfieldLife] Re: Pretaloka..hell of the hindus! (Paradise Lost?)

2005-08-17 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that the best approach to bring to any study of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Global reconstruction

2005-08-17 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any reason why there couldn't be as much variation among buildings designed on Sthapatya- Vedic principles as there is in any style of architecture. For that matter, it seems to me S-V principles

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