[FairfieldLife] "Correct" order?? (N=55)

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
(1,2,3) maitryaadishhu balaani .. 23.. (4) baleshhu hastibalaadiini .. 24.. (5) kuurmanaaDyaa.n sthairyam.h .. 31.. (6?)pravR^ittyaalokanyaasaat.h suukshmavyavahitaviprakR^ishhTaGYaanam.h .. 25.. (7) bhuvanaGYaana.n suurye sa.nyamaat.h .. 26.. (8) chandre taaraavyuuhaGYaanam.h .. 27.. (9) dhruve

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > The truth is that you've got the > > > idea

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
> > > > Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive > > > > "substance M" and what M. said about it? > > > > > > Is that the substance that was said to be found > > > in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? > > > If so, they were very excited about it at one point,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 1/22/06 6:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > And, yeah, I concede that out of the 300-400 people on Purusha > > may be 3 or 4 under a third category (but I doubt it's that high): > > self-made

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, > regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. An

[FairfieldLife] Re: Course in Miracles (was Sex For Salvation)

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- jyouells2000 wrote: > > > > CIM always stikes me > > as trancending through the intellect, sort of adviata in Christian > > terminology. > > Perry describes the Course as like a verbal symphony. A > theme c

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/22/06 6:30 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > And, yeah, I concede that out of the 300-400 people on Purusha there > may be 3 or 4 under a third category (but I doubt it's that high): > self-made individuals who actually worked for a living between TTC > and going on Purusha and

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:20 PM, authfriend wrote:OK, I've listened to it, and I think you need to listen to it again.  The fallacy Wilber is talking about doesn't have anything to do with TM's claims. Perhaps you also need to review what TM claims, for that matter. No that's all right, it's pretty

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 4:46 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:51 PM, anonyff wrote:Vaj How much do you pay for these products? DO they come from overseas or are they shipped from within the U.S. Would you, uh, be able to talk about the effectiveness of this product here in FFLife? I haven't used Energol in a while, but it does what it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, > regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. An

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread doctor_gabby_savy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive > > > "substance M" and what M. said about it? > > > > Is th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed > people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both > thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread doctor_gabby_savy
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address > And may we ask why? Lost your love groove? And its your non-ego that seeks more and greater sexual satisfaction? Or is it Atman? Or Brahman? Or poor limp "peter"? D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed > people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both > thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > How do you know these things? > > I don't; I merely reported how this letter made me feel. > > > You're just making stuff up. > >

[FairfieldLife] Course in Miracles (was Sex For Salvation)

2006-01-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
--- jyouells2000 wrote: > > CIM always stikes me > as trancending through the intellect, sort of adviata in Christian > terminology. Perry describes the Course as like a verbal symphony. A theme comes in and changes shape, them another theme picks up and starts developing, then a third them com

[FairfieldLife] Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread m2smart4u2000
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this idea? It sounds like Hitler's white supremacy all over again. It is really scary to th

[FairfieldLife] Evangelical Christianity

2006-01-22 Thread m2smart4u2000
did you see that special by Barbara Walters on heaven? She interviewed people from the Muslim faith and evangelical christians and they both thought that only their group would go to heaven. What is with this idea? It sounds like Hitler's white supremacy all over again. It is really scary to th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread anonyff
Vaj How much do you pay for these products? DO they come from overseas or are they shipped from within the U.S. Would you, uh, be able to talk about the effectiveness of this product here in FFLife? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I buy here: > > http://ww

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How do you know these things? I don't; I merely reported how this letter made me feel. > You're just making stuff up. No, I merely reported how this letter made me feel. I suspect many people here felt the same way.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread feste37
How do you know these things? You're just making stuff up. Where is the sense of panic you describe? The truth is that you've got the idea that everyone on Purusha is a sponger and a baby, and so you automatically read that into this letter. You're as predictable as the TBs you so regularly de

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/22/06 4:16:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: SSI is available to anybody low-income at age 65, and they need only have worked 40 quarters, which nearly everybody qualifies for: So if they can maintain a sponsor till 65, SSI can take over t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/22/06 4:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any U.S. citizen who is low/no income qualifies for SSI at age 65, regardless of work history/pay-ins to Social Security. Anybody who is a permanent legal resident (not a U.S. citizen) qualifies

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > I'm still interested to learn the dates of the works > > of Chopra that contained the premises you say Wilber > > was debunking (and therefore that those premises were > > autom

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > That -- combined with the stuff about still paying > off his student loans and writing this whole letter > in the hopes that s

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > That -- combined with the stuff about still paying > off his student loans and writing this whole letter > in the hopes that s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 1/22/06 1:00:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That -- combined with the stuff about still paying off his student loans and writing this whole letter in the hopes that someone will pay so that he can go to Holland and "be close to Maharishi-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Quantum Consciousness / was "The great lie of

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > > 44. When one contemplates on the center of Universal Consciousness, > what else remains there to be sought in the practice of prana, apana, > and sushumna? > That's rather interesting.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote: > > >> Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive > >> "substance M" and what M. said about it? > > > > Is that the substance that was said to be found > > in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread Bhairitu
Rick Archer wrote: >From: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500 >To: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Conversation: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth >Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth > >Late breaking news: > > >D

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Ingegerd
It is nice when these things happens - in a very natural way. I saw a perfect yantra in the gap between waking and dreaming state, with all the deities. I have been looking for it since in all places that sells yantras, but I have not found it yet. Ingegerd --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have had the same experience many times - and without thinking > what it is, I have used it as a technique for many years. If I > really want something seriously, a job, need for money, whatever, I > wish and forg

[FairfieldLife] Quantum Consciousness / was "The great lie of

2006-01-22 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Offworld : "Roger Penrose (1989; 1994; 1996) has proposed that isolated quantum systems which avoid environmental decoherence will eventually reduce nonetheless due to an objective threshold ("objective reduction" - OR) related to an intrinsic feature of fundamental spacetime geometry (see belo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 2:36 PM, authfriend wrote:Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive   "substance M" and what M. said about it? Is that the substance that was said to be found in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma? If so, they were very excited about it at one

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you familiar with the movement's search for the elusive > > "substance M" and what M. said about it? > > Is that the substance that was said to be found > in the bloodstream of TMers and suggested to be Soma?

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > In _Path of Light_, Robert Perry says that everyone > > > wears a mask. He takes this teaching from the Course > > > in Miracles. > > > > > Just got that book, Patrick. :-) > > > > JohnY > > Are you stud

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote: > > > Ooops... never mind... Makaradhwaj is mercury. > > Mercury alone is extremely poisonous. Personally, I don't even trust Ayurcedic mercury rasayana to not be pois

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > From: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth > > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth > > > snip > > > > Purusha administrators will try to > > start putting us on airplanes, busses

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 1:45 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I buy here: http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ Here is the companies website with the product and links to their   research: http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htm H

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I buy here: > > > > http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ > > > > Here is the companies website with the product and links to their > > resear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I buy here: > > http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/ > > Here is the companies website with the product and links to their > research: > > http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htm > > Himalaya is an Ayurvedic pharm

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500 > To: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Conversation: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth > Subject: Purusha's descen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where is Brahmasthan?

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
on 1/21/06 8:54 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Apparently the tallest building project is at 'Village Karaundi, Tahsil > Sihora, District Katni, Madhya Pradesh'. I heard the project was dropped because the area is earthquake-prone. Yahoo! Group

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 12:37 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism;  Pseudo-advaita Answers from bio

Re: [FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
I buy here:http://www.bdbazar.com/nshop/Here is the companies website with the product and links to their research:http://www.himalayahealthcare.com/products/tentex.htmHimalaya is an Ayurvedic pharmaceutical company that was taken over by Germans years ago. They are state of the art. We use a num

[FairfieldLife] Two Hindu Puns

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Two Hindu Puns Two Hindu Puns Two Hindu swamis were in conversation. One said to the other, "How did you like my latest book, 'The Art of Levitation'?" His companion replied, "It kept me up all night." *** A Hindu devotee asked God, represented by the multi-armed Lord Narayana,

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
> > In _Path of Light_, Robert Perry says that everyone > > wears a mask. He takes this teaching from the Course > > in Miracles. > > > Just got that book, Patrick. :-) > > JohnY Are you studying the Course, or thinking about it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; > > Pseudo-advaita > > > > Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wi

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- > advaita > > Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber. > > http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 > > The first question has to do directly with the rel

[FairfieldLife] Quantum Consciousness / was "The great lie of "

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
>From Stuart Hameroff, the collaborator on many of Penrose's papers on quantum consciousness: "Roger Penrose (1989; 1994; 1996) has proposed that isolated quantum systems which avoid environmental decoherence will eventually reduce nonetheless due to an objective threshold ("objective reduction

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Comments interleaved below. > > > --- Irmeli Mattsson wrote: > > > > > There is a little booklet written by a Finnish > > > clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. > > > He has been working for the Finnish Established > > > Chu

Re: [FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
Do you have a link? --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's another brand available if you are > interested with more > active ingredients. > > It's made by Himalaya. > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Peter wrote: > > > Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address > > ___

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > From: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 22:00:01 -0500 > > To: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What about the "technology of the Unified Field" that TM and the > TMSP > > is supposed to represent? > > > > > I tried and I tried

Re: [FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
There's another brand available if you are interested with more active ingredients.It's made by Himalaya.On Jan 22, 2006, at 11:56 AM, Peter wrote:Hey! Energol-Ma? I lost your e-mail address To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Energol-Ma

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
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[FairfieldLife] Board of Supervisors agenda - Moratorium for Hog Factories

2006-01-22 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Board of Supervisors agenda - Moratorium for Hog Factories Courthouse Building, 3rd floor    If you can come to this historic meeting with the Bd of Supervisors on the  MORATORIUM for FACTORY FARMS  and LOCAL CONTROL, it would be very much  appreciated.  Please be there by 9:15am THIS M

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Ingegerd
I have had the same experience many times - and without thinking what it is, I have used it as a technique for many years. If I really want something seriously, a job, need for money, whatever, I wish and forget - and the wishes is fullfilled in some way or another. I do not know the mechanisms

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote: > > > Where do they make the claims that Wilber debunks? > > > > The claims listed in your previous post were: > > > > --Physics proves God; the Tao finds proof in quantum >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
I have experienced many odd coincidences, that could be also explained as just coincidences. I however think I have too many of them and many of those really don't feel like a coincidences, even if some I see as such. For a few years ago I was participating a vedic recitation weekend course by the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 10:42 AM, authfriend wrote:Where do they make the claims that Wilber debunks? The claims listed in your previous post were: --Physics proves God; the Tao finds proof in quantum   realities. --Your consciousness creates electrons. --Quantum vacuum potentials are unmanifest Sp

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Peter wrote: > > > I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that > > excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, > > but there are individuals with rather concrete > > thinking that hv

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > He only cites Chopra in the talk--which IMO means, by extension, the > TMO. Does it? Chopra left the TMO quite a few years ago. What works of Chopra does he cite, and when were they published? > > On Jan 22, 2006, at 9

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:51 AM, Peter wrote:I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, but there are individuals with rather concrete thinking that hvave blurred the metaphor/ experience distinction.   Fromm a movement web site. There are entire

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
He only cites Chopra in the talk--which IMO means, by extension, the TMO.On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:35 AM, authfriend wrote:I'm not sure the TMO has ever made the claims Wilber debunks, actually. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fairfie

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 9:34 AM, Peter wrote:What do you mean by "works?" The goal of TM is self realization or is it relaxation? Seems like there has always been this public/private split in the teaching. TM is a great relaxation technique but of limited use for self-realization at least in the gene

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
I agree with Judy. The TMO is usually not that excessive in its use of quantum physics metapohors, but there are individuals with rather concrete thinking that hvave blurred the metaphor/ experience distinction. --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, V

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > #2: Quantum vacuum potentials a

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Patrick Gillam
Comments interleaved below. > --- Irmeli Mattsson wrote: > > > There is a little booklet written by a Finnish > > clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. > > He has been working for the Finnish Established > > Church. The title of > > the book would be in English something like : "The > > healthy mind as a > > m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purusha's descent from Heavenly Mountain unto Earth

2006-01-22 Thread markmeredith2002
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > From: Michael Jansen <[EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What about the "technology of the Unified Field" that TM and the TMSP > is supposed to represent? Are you saying all of that was just a > razzle dazzle marketing spiel? Symbolic? Jungian archetypes of our > collective u

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The old addage by Nietzsche, "Power corrupts and > absolute power corrupts absolutely." Actually it was by Lord Acton. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day discip

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
--- uns_tressor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; > > Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- advaita > > > > Ken goes on to suggest that what might be > influencing > > quantum realities

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; I'm not sure the TMO has ever made the claims Wilber debunks, actually. Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- > advaita > > Answers from biologist and physicist Ken Wilber. > > http://ww

[FairfieldLife] Re: Extraterrestrial consciousness: Universe Communion

2006-01-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes I was aware of this. Much of it, from what I had read in the > past, seems to be part scientific materialist vs. higher states of > consciousness debate. Yeah, none of the material I cited had anything to do with resi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Peter
--- Irmeli Mattsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There is a little booklet written by a Finnish > clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. > He has been working for the Finnish Established > Church. The title of > the book would be in English something like : "The > healthy mind as a > mask." It was published in

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > File Under: TMO lies and marketing ploys; > Boomeritis Hinduism; Pseudo- advaita > > Ken goes on to suggest that what might be influencing > quantum realities is not Suchness per se... This must be forwarded to Pseuds Cor

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: [nhnenews] Paula Zahn Now: 'Sex For Salvation?'

2006-01-22 Thread Irmeli Mattsson
There is a little booklet written by a Finnish clergyman Raimo Mäkelä. He has been working for the Finnish Established Church. The title of the book would be in English something like : "The healthy mind as a mask." It was published in 2001. There he describes a certain personality type, which he

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Vaj
On Jan 22, 2006, at 5:43 AM, cardemaister wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM   Addenda

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. > > OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM > Addenda & corrigenda: > - BS I 1 2

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: Something really good-using algae to reduce pollution and make oil

2006-01-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I weren't so lazy I'd maintain a we

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > #2: Quantum vacuum potentials are not unmanifest Spirit. OM AkAshastalliN^gAt.h OM - BS I 22 :D Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the dis

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A common story told to us on TM-courses - was about the meditator > that wished for an apple and suddenly the apple was in his hand. I > have never experienced such a thing, but I think from my mind it > is possible

[FairfieldLife] Re: The great lie of Quantum Physics and Consciousness

2006-01-22 Thread Ingegerd
A common story told to us on TM-courses - was about the meditator that wished for an apple and suddenly the apple was in his hand. I have never experienced such a thing, but I think from my mind it is possible from the consciousness to create material things. Deepak Chopra has explained it in a