I'm not a big one for conspiracy theories, period,
because of Occam's Razor. It's always more likely
that the event(s) transpired because of Everyday
Human Stupidity than because of some elaborate plot
that would then need covering up.
But the reason I'm replying, Edg, is to talk about
new.morning wrote:
I am not sure if promise is the word, but
in Nov 1967 in Berkeley MMY talked specifically
about how TM would result in CC in 5 years for
students -- and even had a pamphlet to go along
with it which had the 5 years in writing.
Maybe so, but I helped Jerry Jarvis set up
jstein wrote:
Anyway, turns out Rory was on TMNews, and his
sign-off was LLL.
That makes sense, I guess. A guy who writes his
own Spiritual Autobiography and publishes it
on the Internet, who goes to a TM news forum
to argue his case, who doesn't sign his name
as Rory Goff, but uses a sig
Thanks for posting this. It's very nicely done,
even though Ram Dass clearly reading from his
script is a little grating at times. :-) In
contrast, Douglas Harding is clearly speaking
extemporaneously, from the Self...all the
difference in the world. It was also interesting
to see film of
On Apr 4, 2007, at 7:24 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
Finally, he declared himself infallible; he
actually said, I never make mistakes, which
immediately reminded me of many errors he had
made: first claiming that all meditators would
reach Cosmic Consciousness in a few months,
later
TurquoiseB wrote:
This is just one of Willy's common troll tactics.
He's trying to get a few people to bite on it
here and get into an argument with him about it.
Well, Uncle Tantra, you could clear this up by
simply posting the pamplet so we could see it.
He's lonely.
And then shut your
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I absolutely
second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true believer, but I'm a
great fan of Judy's incisive thinking and writing. Apart from when
things get too convoluted (e.g. in the Barry-Judy wars), I enjoy
almost all of her posts.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
Enlightenment within five years was right on the
brochures.
I have an audio tape from MMY at *Humbolt* stating.., (I just
re-listened to it a few moments ago).
Question:Maharishi, you say
Make that four. I love Judy Stein!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coulsong2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I absolutely
second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true believer, but I'm a
great fan of Judy's incisive thinking and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coulsong2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I absolutely
second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true believer, but I'm a
great fan of Judy's incisive thinking and writing. Apart from when
things get
Barry writes: snipped
We're fucked because we're living in the *uncool* yuga,
Kaliyuga. And if you buy into this crap, you buy
into Never Really Trying Very Hard To Change Things.
TomT:
Once you wake up you have a good laugh and realize it has always been
and will always be Sat Yuga. What else
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:
TurquoiseB wrote:
Enlightenment within five years was right on the
brochures.
I have an audio tape from MMY at *Humbolt* stating..,
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Richard J. Williams
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 9:43 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Discussion with Judy about Guru Dev and
So, no Rory Goff on AMT in 2002 dialoging with Judy;
My son, the flower in nature gives us a clue as to that which is
hidden underneath, that which is hidden underneath is hidden within us
as well, therefore, when we see that little flower we are reminded of
the great beauty that lies within us, as our very own Self,...yes?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, coulsong2001 geoff@ wrote:
I hardly ever post here, but I read FFL quite a bit and I
absolutely second Rory and New.morning here. I'm no true
believer, but I'm a great fan
I recall seeing a tape on a residence course of Maharishi discussing
this very subject. I am sure other people have seen it also. He
claimed is was a serious miscalculation. Anyone else recall the tape.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Apr 4, 2007, at 12:49 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
This is just one of Willy's common troll tactics.
He's trying to get a few people to bite on it
here and get into an argument with him about it.
He's lonely.
I get the feeling he's kidding and most of his arguments are
tongue-in-cheek.
Sal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a very good think Maharishi said there. If he would have told
the truth, how many would have started and had good results ?
I once heard Maharishi state that CC started as just a sense of
wholeness By that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
new.morning wrote:
I am not sure if promise is the word, but
in Nov 1967 in Berkeley MMY talked specifically
about how TM would result in CC in 5 years for
students -- and even had a pamphlet to go along
If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that
individuals CAN change the world they find themselves
in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles
of time have nothing whatever to do with it.
God's plan? Man, I don't believe in a God, period,
much less that he/she/it has a *plan*. The
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that
individuals CAN change the world they find themselves
in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles
of time have nothing whatever to do with it.
God's
Perhaps it may take a while (years, lifetimes) for moments of
witnessing to occur and finally full awareness during sleep. Maybe
people are so intent on having a flashy experience, that they don't
realize how evolved they are already?
This is a cool point. Personally I never found sleep
If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that
individuals CAN change the world they find themselves
in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles
of time have nothing whatever to do with it.
God's plan? Man, I don't believe in a God, period,
much less that he/she/it has a
H, I'm no expert; I have concluded from my readings of Hindu
scriptures that Krishna's death marked the beginning of Kali Yuga.
Dwapara Yuga folks are supposed to live 2,000 years or something like
that, so I'm as confused as a non-expert can be, but it doesn't
matter. (And by the way, I'm
Maybe it's just a writer thang, tripping on language.
It's just been striking me lately that the language
we use when describing to ourselves the world we live
in kinda defines our state of attention. Use sloppy or
not-fully-thought-through language, and you're living
in a sloppy,
Edg, I don't choose to look at things quite
the same way you do, but I very much appreciate
the fine writing. You have a real gift.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
And for the sake of discussion, could we leave out NOW for the
nonce?
That
BillyG wrote:
...even though it's not principally right to allot
some fixed time for Cosmic Consciousness.
There you go, on tape, in this case a data cd I had
mastered from a reel to reel left over from some
defunct center! I was a little surprised he said
that, but, here it is.
Well,
...it doesn't have one of these roaring through
town.
Three videos from YouTube of the Train Grande
Vitesse breaking the rail-speed record yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C-pDbUcBo 3:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRg4Cda23XA :46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ_JaiKf7aU
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...it doesn't have one of these roaring through
town.
Three videos from YouTube of the Train Grande
Vitesse breaking the rail-speed record yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C-pDbUcBo 3:39
TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...it doesn't have one of these roaring through
town.
Three videos from YouTube of the Train Grande
Vitesse breaking the rail-speed record yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8C-pDbUcBo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I were to believe in a myth, it would be that
individuals CAN change the world they find themselves
in, right here, right now, and that imaginary cycles
of time have nothing whatever to do with it.
It's only a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...it doesn't have one of these roaring through
town.
Personally, I'd prefer trains that zip through town in a matter of
seconds to the long freight trains that take forever and blow their
deafening horns continuously.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
H, I'm no expert; I have concluded from my readings of Hindu
scriptures that Krishna's death marked the beginning of Kali
Yuga.
Dwapara Yuga folks are supposed to live 2,000 years or something
like
that, so I'm
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BillyG wrote:
...even though it's not principally right to allot
some fixed time for Cosmic Consciousness.
There you go, on tape, in this case a data cd I had
mastered from a reel to reel left over
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
God's plan? Man, I don't believe in a God, period,
much less that he/she/it has a *plan*.
My ego loves certainty -- nothing like continuity to keep an illusion
going.
So, h, this certainty that one doesn't believe in God -- how
certain can one be about that
I want my $35.00 back that I gave to Rick Archer in
1972 because it took me 15 years to get enlightened
instead of 5 to 8 years. What a gip!
--- BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J.
Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BillyG wrote:
...even
After the demise of UG there is another great who died this March.
This is an email my indian friend sent me:
Ajja, also known as Bhagavan Arabbi Nithyanandam, was a great Jnani
who lived in the jungles outside of Mangalore, India. He passed away
on March 12.
http://www.arabbi-nithyanandam.com/
In a message dated 4/4/07 3:20:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After the demise of UG there is another great who died this March.
This is an email my indian friend sent me:
Ajja, also known as Bhagavan Arabbi Nithyanandam, was a great Jnani
who lived in the jungles
5 out of 1243 members explicitly like your posts. Not bad when you
super radiance it. Square root of 1% = 3.5. You pass the cosmic threshold.
Out of curiousity and for fun, if you care to share, per Alex's post,
do you have a strong Mars? In what house? (in jyotish or western).
I have a strong
A commanding appearance. Argumentative ability. You become a Mars is
under star 3-Krttika,
renowned lawyer or military or police officer or associates with the
and Mars is in star quarter #
government. You will run after other's spouses. It has been noticed 1 .
that some kind of poisonous
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
5 out of 1243 members explicitly like your posts. Not bad when you
super radiance it. Square root of 1% = 3.5. You pass the cosmic
threshold.
Add me too. I like Judy's clarity and strong intellect. I don't
understand
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
5 out of 1243 members explicitly like your posts. Not bad when you
super radiance it. Square root of 1% = 3.5. You pass the cosmic
threshold.
Out of curiousity and for fun, if you care to share, per Alex's
post, do
--- Jerry initiated me into TM on July 10-th, 1967. He was bald but
combed the remaining hair from the sides over on top of his head,
giving the appearance of some hair.
And yes, the literature made a cc claim of 5 or 7 years. I forgot
which.
In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, boo_lives
Christine Pappas teaches a Basic Hatha Yoga class at the Roosevelt
Community Recreation at a new time: 2-3 p.m. Monday, Wednesday Friday.
The Community Rec Center is located at 1000 W. Burlington, Fairfield.
This class introduces the fundamentals of yoga and is open to everyone.
Develop your
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press on FFL lately. It is
deserved. Despite our disagreements, the fact that you read my stuff
and send it back with hard topspin makes you a big part of what I dig
here. I think there has been a cool change in the way people are
posting and I am
http://tinyurl.com/2ps8e7
Would that be the Jerry Jarvis that you claim
was bald
The half-bald one?
or the real one that most of us dealt with??
Never heard of anyone named boo at SIMS.
qntmpkt wrote:
Jerry initiated me into TM on July 10-th, 1967.
He was bald but combed the remaining hair from
the
--
Richard, stop living in the past. It's 2007.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would that be the Jerry Jarvis that you claim
was bald
The half-bald one?
or the real one that most of us dealt with??
Never heard of anyone
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams And
yes, the literature made a cc claim of 5 or
7 years. I forgot which.
If there was any literature with a stated promise
of enlightenment in 5-7 years it would have been
posted
I don't tend to keep much from 40 years ago.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the pamphlet I was given at the door of the large lecture MMY gave
was black and white, folded 8/12x11 type size, with a picture of MMY
-- similar to the one on the record cover I think titled Love and
God or
Note: forwarded message attached.
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Although I cannot remember the
Although I cannot remember the precise wording, in a pamphlet that was
given out freely at the combined SIMS-SRM center on the upper west
side of Manhattan in the late 1960s, we used to hand out a one page
three column pamphlet, yellow or green in color, run off at a local
copy shop, that
Kenny Hassman wrote:
snip
The various lecturers who use to give the intros at that center (I
think on W. 78th Street)
71st and West End Avenue.
would make reference to the handout given out
as people came to hear the lectures.
Also, very often at advanced lectures at the same center,
Edg,
I like your humor and wisdom. My comments to your piece are as
follows:
1. Krishna never died! He willingly disappeared according to
Shrimad Bhagavatam. I don't know how Vyasa (the presumed writer of
SB) knew that, since as he writes, even the demigods were puzzled by
the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press on FFL lately. It is
deserved. Despite our disagreements, the fact that you read my
stuff and send it back with hard topspin makes you a big part of
what
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press on FFL lately. It is
deserved. Despite our disagreements, the fact that you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Hey Judy,
Good on ya for the wave of positive press
Edg, just for fun I'll make one post about the God
thang, and then drop it. It's clear that you have
strong feelings about this, and clear also that you
are an even more long-winded writer than I am, so I
think that out of compassion one post on this subject
is all that either of us should
Dear Residents of Maharishi Vedic City,
Last minute help needed to prepare for our pandits
Our first group of Vedic pandits will arrive from India
Friday evening to their new home on the new campus
in Maharishi Vedic City.
Thursday and Friday (especially Friday) help is needed
with last
e benefit for me. Thanks.
Curtis, do you ever look in a mirror?
Yes I do. What an inappropriate response. WTF?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
Hey Judy,
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