--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave?
No, I'm sure you haven't...
Well, here it is:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
methods
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim, what you wrote make sense that resonate with my understanding
of TM as well, but with all due respect, lets not forget that Vaj
has hands on and knowledge on both (or more) ways , and other
meditation methods
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
snip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can say to
On Jun 27, 2006, at 11:27 PM, Peter wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/27/06 4:52 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no physiological component to enlightenment. Any physiological component has to do with mental conditions. "Restful Alertness" is a condition of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 kabbalist1@
wrote:
Jim, what you wrote make sense that resonate with my
understanding of TM as well, but with all due respect, lets not
forget that Vaj has hands
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Again, I'm pointing this out because I'm really tired
of attempts to denigrate posters here that are based
on TM orthodoxy. Maharishi's opinions are no better
than anyone else's. They're just opinions, and many
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves
on 6/28/06 3:03 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vaj used to be a TM teacher. You knew that, right?
If so, he was absent the day that they passed out
the You already know everything that is worth
knowing Kool-Aid. Unlike
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
[snip]
Two eeg feeds seems to be a joke.
[snip]
Two EEG's walk into a bar. The first EEG has a duck on his head. The
other EEG says to
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:49 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:Well, that's a long story I wouldn't recount here Jim, but yes it is by it's very nature. But I do feel the sequence of meditation given in Dzogchen Semde (Skt: Chittamatra) does elucidate the path from dualistic to inseparability to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
snip
Did you hear that TM is a dualistic meditation from someone? If
so,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the
witnessing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
---To JIM and other Fairfield Lifers (funny - when I was in the
Army in 1968 the term Lifer was the most derogatory name one could
think of). At any rate, in answer to your question, Jim, as to where
Vaj got such weird notions, his source is his Guru, Chogyal Namkhai
Norbu. I have his recent
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's).
Your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---To JIM and other Fairfield Lifers (funny - when I was in the
Army in 1968 the term Lifer was the most derogatory name one
could
think of). At any rate, in answer to your question, Jim, as to
where
Vaj got such
Manqntmpkt, that handle is worse than mine.
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---To JIM and other Fairfield Lifers (funny - when I was in the
Army in 1968 the term Lifer was the most derogatory name one
could
think of). At any rate, in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Also, yesterday I was stopped at a stoplight on the way home from
work, next to a non-descript pickup truck. There was something
shining my way so I looked over and the fellow driving had a golden
placard of
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's). Your association of the term 'dualist' and 'TM' belies an incomplete understanding of the practice of TM. Please
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's).
Your association of the term
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
[snip]
Also, yesterday I was stopped at a stoplight on the way home from
work, next to a non-descript pickup truck. There was something
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's).
Your association of the term
Do you know the typeor model eeg machine that Wilber is using? Is it
commercially available?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's).
Your association of the term
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you know the typeor model eeg machine that Wilber is using? Is it
commercially available?
Wilber basically helps market it. I'm pretty sure more info is available on his
website.
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
methods
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can
Comments below:
--- qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---To JIM and other Fairfield Lifers (funny - when
I was in the
Army in 1968 the term Lifer was the most
derogatory name one could
think of). At any rate, in answer to your question,
Jim, as to where
Vaj got such weird notions, his
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, kabbalist1 kabbalist1@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Vaj insists that TM is a form of smashtra (or however its spelled).
Shamtha! Kinda like Ramtha, except it's a sham!
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Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ken stops his brainwaves: source of Vaj;'s inspired statements
on 6/27/06 4:52 PM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no physiological component to enlightenment.
Any physiological component has to do with mental
conditions. Restful Alertness
On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vaj insists that TM is a form of smashtra (or however its spelled). Shamtha! Kinda like Ramtha, except it's a sham! Shamatha.There are literally hundreds of different types
On Jun 27, 2006, at 4:23 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: Do you know the typeor model eeg machine that Wilber is using? Is it commercially available? It's neuro-feedback device called the Mind Mirror III:http://www.annawise.com/the_work/the-work-content.html
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On Jun 27, 2006, at 5:20 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's). Your
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/27/06 4:52 PM, Peter at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no physiological component to
enlightenment.
Any physiological component has to do with mental
conditions. Restful Alertness is a condition of
mind
neither closer nor further
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
(below: Peter says E not caused by a physiological state. ) I
don't believe various groups of people are saying that. They are
saying correlation, not cause. We can point to at least 3 known
groups of people whose
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 6/27/06 4:52 PM, Peter at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is no physiological component to
enlightenment.
Any physiological component has to do with mental
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 27, 2006, at 6:39 PM, Alex Stanley wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote:
Vaj insists that TM is a form of smashtra (or however its spelled).
Shamtha! Kinda like Ramtha, except
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 27, 2006, at 4:23 PM, johnlasher20002000 wrote:
Do you know the typeor model eeg machine that Wilber is using? Is it
commercially available?
It's neuro-feedback device called the Mind Mirror III:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 27, 2006, at 5:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 11:38 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave?
No, I'm sure you haven't...
You've posted this here before, as
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave?
No, I'm sure you haven't...
Well, here it is:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in Neuro-feedback. Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave? No, I'm sure you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave?
No, I'm sure you haven't...
Well, here it is:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:45 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in Neuro-feedback. Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave? No, I'm sure you
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:55 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in Neuro-feedback. Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave? No, I'm sure you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave?
No, I'm sure you haven't...
Well, here it is:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
standard
home unit used in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
standard
home unit used in Neuro-feedback.
Ever hear of a TMer doing a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:55 PM, new.morning wrote:
snip
But when eegs become household items, claimants of of the non-dual
state will ensure that the multi-state, chaotic wave state will
become the new next big thing to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:55 PM, new.morning wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:13 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in Neuro-feedback. Ever hear of a TMer doing a blank wave? No, I'm sure you haven't...
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard home unit used in
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:16 PM, new.morning wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:55 PM, new.morning wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:16 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: By request. Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Vaj, this is not EEG. It is simply less activity in certain areas,
but it is not brainwave coherence of silence and dynamism brought
about by an effortless technique.
OffWorld
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@
wrote:
--- In
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:11 PM, Peter wrote: --- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk"
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why are people assuming that a non-dual state would
have a brain wave pattern of nothing? Seems to be very
concrete thinking.
Two eeg feeds seems to be a joke. It seems plausible that some areas
quiet down and other areas
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the
witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a dualistic
meditation method).
You are
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:42 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:40 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:43 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:07 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:58 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because we should realize and make the connection that *dualistic methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the witnessing artifact, which is an artifact of a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's).
Your association of the term 'dualist' and 'TM' belies an incomplete
understanding of the practice of TM. Please see my earlier post.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:13 PM, sparaig wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
By request.
Ken Wilber demonstrates different brainwave patterns on a standard
home unit used in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:58 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
methods lead to dualistic states of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote:
Why are people assuming that a non-dual state would
have a brain wave pattern of nothing? Seems to be very
concrete thinking.
Two eeg feeds
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
Because we should realize and make the connection that
*dualistic
methods lead to dualistic states of consciousness* (e.g. the
witnessing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:42 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:15 PM, authfriend wrote:
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Explain to us again (a) why we should be impressed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:43 PM, authfriend wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:22 PM, authfriend wrote:
[Somebody wrote:]
Wouldn't a flat EEG be mahasamadhi?
Not
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
There's just not much I can say to orthodox dualists (TMer's).
Your association of the term 'dualist' and 'TM' belies an incomplete
understanding
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Two eeg feeds seems to be a joke.
[snip]
Two EEG's walk into a bar. The first EEG has a duck on his head. The
other EEG says to him: Where'd you get the pig? The first EEG
responds: It's not a pig, it's a
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