RW, Good descriptive paragraph. That is my experience. Thanks for the put to
words and posting it here, -Buck
RW writes, According to Brooks, "The srividya, because it consists of
"indestructible seed" syllables (bijaksara) rather than words, transcends such
"mundane" considerations as semanti
MMY - Yogi and Seer:
So, you think that the Adi Shankaracharya of Sringeri not only initiated
disciples into Sri Vidya practices, but said: "Worship of Sri Chakra is a
must for the Swamis of the peetha." And, as noted, not by householders, but
by Swamis? Sri Vidya practice consists of tantric yoga
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MMY and Swami Venkatesananda Saraswati at Rishikesh
According to MMY, sidha yoga is a mechanical processes. There is no
religious prayer in the practice of TMer siddha yoga. It's not based on
faith or a particular belief. There is no "god of yoga", which enters into
the ph
According to MMY in Beacon Light of the Himalayas' "For our practice, we
select only the suitable mantras of personal Gods. Such mantras fetch to
us the grace of personal Gods and make us happier in every walk of
life." This statement was confirmed by Satyanand at a CCP I once
attended in Berke
FYI, RAM in ayurveda calms vata. It is considered a Shanti mantra. And
it is commonly used when teaching "meditation for the masses."
Bhagavan Das mentions in his book that he was given RAM as his mantra
when Maharishi taught him. Bhagavan Das was the young American that Ram
Das met in Ind
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
When MMY first started out in Kerala, according to 'Beacon Light of the
Himalayas', he only used Ram (for the guys) and Shyam (for the gals), not
unlike the ISKCON pundit boys who sing the maha mantra.
Sure about that? I found copies of the be
Well, the "gods" and "goddesses" are really just metaphors for laws of
nature. They were made up to explain things to simple people. "Nama"
meaing "bow down" really means allowing that energy in. The mantras are
just sounds that have a certain effect just as different music has a
different e
When MMY first started out in Kerala, according to 'Beacon Light of the
Himalayas', he only used Ram (for the guys) and Shyam (for the gals),
not unlike the ISKCON pundit boys who sing the maha mantra.
It was only later in 1957 that MMY started using the five bijas and
created the sixteen vari
Richard, maybe I understand this because I'm so good at savasana (-:
On Thursday, October 10, 2013 8:47 AM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:
The Wisdom tradition is very ancient. "May the Goddess Saraswati, with all
power, full of power, further us, as the guide of our minds." - Rig Veda VI.
The Wisdom tradition is very ancient. "May the Goddess Saraswati, with
all power, full of power, further us, as the guide of our minds." - Rig
Veda VI. 61.9, 11, 3
The Saraswati bija mantra IS Sri Saraswati - Pure Intelligence, Sri
Vidya, - Auspicious Wisdom.
The Saraswati bija, because it c
Yes, it is a good thing to "step back" from the conditioning every so
often. Unfortunatly you don't seem to have been able to step back from
the materialistic conditioning - you're still almost totally ignorant of
the Siddha Tradition in India except for a few nonsense notions you got
from Fred
siddhi of your mantra.
1 Om Namah Shivaye.
2 Om Namah Narayane Aye Namaha.
3 Om Namah Bhagwate Vasdevaye Namaha.
4 BismiIa-Rehman-ul-Ramheem.
5 Om bhur bhavsa soha tat savetur Vareneyam bargo devasyaha dhi mahi
dayo yona parachodyat.
--------
On Wed, 10/9/13, doct
turq, you and everybody else are simply celebrating forms of feminine wisdom.
But your forms of that are called Maya, Messy Nessy, Susan wayback and Jane
Fonda whereas some call it Saraswati. And logic dictates that there is at least
one human out of the billions who celebrate feminine wisdom in
.
On Wed, 10/9/13, doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@... mailto:doctordumbass@...> wrote:
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013
OK. You are obviously a lot smarter than I am.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Any knowledge is a prison, not just TM knowledge. That's not just what
Krishnamurti says, but Maharishi said this himself about the knowledge he was
teaching. It's a conditioning of the mind.
At
smiIa-Rehman-ul-Ramheem.
5 Om bhur bhavsa soha tat savetur Vareneyam bargo devasyaha dhi mahi
dayo yona parachodyat.
On Wed, 10/9/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
To: Fairfiel
Is Domash in good graces with the Movement?
On Wed, 10/9/13, iranitea wrote:
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 10:05 PM
Domash was a smart guy, I'm sure he has read the Garland of Letters like anyone
else, it was even in the MERU library in the Sonnenberg as all other of
Woodroffe's books. He wrote what he was allowed to write, and his was a
devotional act, I don't blame him for that. I think he was a very though
-Ramheem.
5 Om bhur bhavsa soha tat savetur Vareneyam bargo devasyaha dhi mahi dayo
yona parachodyat.
On Wed, 10/9/13, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
wrote:
Subject: RE: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Any knowledge is a prison, not just TM knowledge. That's not just what
Krishnamurti says, but Maharishi said this himself about the knowledge he was
teaching. It's a conditioning of the mind.
At my time, which was before the siddhis, there was much emphasis to get
fertilizers asap. That's w
You have to be exceptionally resource challenged, these days, to consider the
TM knowledge, a "prison". Also, TM, imo, is not for people who want to over
intellectualize everything. It either works, or it doesn't, and knowing what
samput is, ultimately makes no difference, wrt its effectiveness.
Samput are the extra words added. For instance they may add extra bijas
to Gayatri to make it more powerful. This, of course, is stuff that TM
never students but information often explained in other traditions.
Gotta step outside the "prison" to learn it. ;-)
On 10/09/2013 12:29 PM, turqu
Forget the pseudo mantra shastra, what we really want to know is did you
cut the cable?
On 10/09/2013 08:25 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
So, since the TM bija mantras came from the Adi Shankara, passed down
through Shantanand Saraswati, and are included in the supreme
scripture of the Sri
Or maybe because he didn't have a clue at all about what tantric
traditions are. If he did he might have wound up booted from the
movement. Gotta keep "the purity of the teaching" ya know. :-D
On 10/09/2013 08:24 AM, Share Long wrote:
Testing. Richard, maybe Domash didn't mention the tantric
Iranitea wrote:
> Judy:
>
> "Shut up, Richard. I'm not disputing anything."
>
> She's just such a sweetie, isn't she?
>
> > (Yawn) But it's perfectly OK for
> > Richard to accuse me of
> > disputing facts and misleading folks when he knows I was
> > doing no such thing. Right, iranitea?
>
> Yes
So, since the TM bija mantras came from the Adi Shankara, passed down
through Shantanand Saraswati, and are included in the supreme scripture
of the Sri Vidya, the Saundaryalahari, we can conclude that the Mahesh
Yogi probably got the TM bija mantras from his Master, Swami Brahmananda
Saraswati
Testing. Richard, maybe Domash didn't mention the tantric origins because
Westerners can have such a narrow view of what tantra is. And that view does
not include being a recluse!
On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:18 AM, Richard J. Williams
wrote:
It sounds to me like you wanted to beli
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
To: "Richard J. Williams"
Date: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 3:16 PM
So, we can
assume, based on their input
from this thread, t
It sounds to me like you wanted to believe there was pie up in the sky,
but you failed to get any. Maybe you sucked as a baker or maybe you just
couldn't sit still to do a simple kindergarden yoga pose. Go figure.
Maybe you just conned yourself - at any rate, it must have been a
powerful exper
So, we can assume, based on their input from this thread, that the bija
mantras used in the basic TM practice came from MMY's teacher, SBS and
the Shankaracharya tradition.
No one seems to be disputing this.
And we do know that everything MMY did he did it in the name of his
teacher, SBS, acc
"During our conversation he started talking to me about Sri Vidya, the
highest of paths, followed only by accomplished Sanskrit scholars of
India. It is a path which joins raja yoga, kundalini yoga, bhakti yoga,
and advaita Vedanta. There are two books recommended by the teachers of
this path:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Iranitea wrote:
> Judy:
> "Shut up, Richard. I'm not disputing anything."
> She's just such a sweetie, isn't she?
(Yawn) But it's perfectly OK for Richard to accuse me of
disputing facts and m
Iranitea wrote:
> Judy:
> "Shut up, Richard. I'm not disputing anything."
> She's just such a sweetie, isn't she?
(Yawn) But it's perfectly OK for Richard to accuse me of
disputing facts and misleading folks when he knows I was
doing no such thing. R
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Judy: "Shut up, Richard. I'm not disputing anything. "
She's just such a sweetie, isn't she?
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
It sure is looking like the authfriend is disputing the fact that Swami
Karpatri was a member
hare Long wrote:
Richard, I'm pretty good at holding savasana (-:
*From:* Richard J. Williams
*To:* Richard J. Williams
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
Richard, I'm pretty good at holding savasana (-:
From: Richard J. Williams
To: Richard J. Williams
Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
Wouldn't it be great if others would d
Michael wrote:
When this happens:
"the man who changed the entire scope and direction of scientific research by
compelling science to recognize in its own terms and by its own methods the
existence and reality of a new state of consciousness"
You know he's referring here to pure consciou
you knew him better than I did, but nah, it wasn't revolutionary, just another
con man using the best con man's trick in the world, i.e. the best cons are
ones that contain some truth, or have something that is of some value.
Let's not forget that the term con artist means confidence artist.
A
Back in the mid 1980s I attended a Commodore computing show. I talked
Jay Balakrisnan, the developer of the HES BAL Assembler. His dad came
to the US back in the 1930s or 40s to teach the Hollywood folks yoga.
He probably taught them meditation too.
http://en.inforapid.org/index.php?search=
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Ann:
> Is there actually anyone here who actually cares?
>
It only took about one day for this thread to go down the tube. Go figure.
What is that tube: the sewer tube, the calamari tube, the tube-a, the tuberus
root? Whatever it is, it se
It kind of looked like you were disputing what I posted quoting the
Wikipedia entry for Swami Karpatri. So, why didn't you tell us about
Swami Karpatri being in the Sri Vidya sect? It looks like a fib by
admission to me. Go figure.
"And, um, I wouldn't take Richard's posts to confirm /anythin
Ann:
>Is there actually anyone here who actually cares?
>
It only took about one day for this thread to go down the tube. Go figure.
On 10/8/2013 8:46 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
wrote:
It sure i
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
It sure is looking like the authfriend is disputing the fact that Swami
Karpatri was a member of the Sri Vidya sect. Now, why would she do that and
mislead us about the SBS affiliations with Sr
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
It sure is looking like the authfriend is disputing the fact that Swami
Karpatri was a member of the Sri Vidya sect. Now, why would she do that and
mislead us about the SBS affiliations with Sri Vidya? Obviously if Swami
Karpatri was a Sri Vidy
Shut up, Richard. I'm not disputing anything.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
It sure is looking like the authfriend is disputing the fact that Swami
Karpatri was a member of the Sri Vidya sect. Now, why would she do that and
mislead us about the SBS affiliations with Sri Vidya
Wouldn't it be great if others would do a little research and post it
here too, instead of wasting time arguing over semantics and playing
childish 'gotcha' games and finking on their old friends. Is there
anyone out there that can hold a yoga pose? LoL!
and On 10/7/2013 8:24 PM, s3raph...@ya
It sure is looking like the authfriend is disputing the fact that Swami
Karpatri was a member of the Sri Vidya sect. Now, why would she do that
and mislead us about the SBS affiliations with Sri Vidya? Obviously if
Swami Karpatri was a Sri Vidya he learned it from his guru SKS. Go figure.
"He
Jerry may not have wanted to make a travel programme but in many ways that
seems to be just what the BBC wanted of her. And why not, you
could ask: she's got looks, presence, a surprisingly sharp and unbubbly
sense of humour, and looks like she's enjoying herself. Many viewers
will want to be h
There is a shrine to Shankara at the Sri Vidya temple down in
Kanchipuram peeth, wherein lies the Sri Cakra or Sri Yantra. And, Swami
Rama recounted in his book,'Living With the Himalayan Masters', a
direct, first hand account of Guru Dev having a Sri Yantra in his
possession.
Apparently the
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