Hi Michelle,
Can you call your vet, tell them what is going on with Patches and
that you have clavomox left over from Lucy that you'd like to give her
and ask how much she would need? I've done this with my vet many times.
--
Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...
Be-Mi-Kitties
the no website/petfinder site is a bigger red flag for me, for tiger
ranch, than haven acres' not turning anyone away they're new, and
since we don't know their capacity, they may well have room. they
don't have very many cats listed on their petfinder page--far fewer
than many rescues--so
I swear by zithro if they are really sick. Unless it is obvious they are
very sick though (not eating, etc) I would usually start with amoxycillin,
then go to clavamox, then go to zithro as a last resort. I don't have FELV+
cats though, so I don't know what that throws into the mix.
On
Dear Kelly
I'm so sorry to hear about Morgana. At least your sweet angel knew she
was dearly loved and did not die alone. Please know I'm thinking about
you,
love and hugs, Kerry M.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent:
They don't have websites. I think that's so people don't do door dumps.
Beth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you send me the websites for the other two, if you have them?
Phaewryn
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I am so sorry for your loss, it is extremely painful to watch them go
through the final stage, yet being with them through it can strengthen
the bond you had together in this life. I have lost so many to this
horrible disease, but I did not let them die alone.
Rehab Supervisor
Home Health
most sanctuaries still have websites--they just don't have STREET
addresses on them! our po box was three towns over from where the
sanctuary actually was located, and people STILL managed to find us in
the middle of the night to dump cats... it's really hard to make any
decisions without any
WATCH POOR SPELLING! HUGE RED FLAG A PROFESSIONAL sanctuary will have
PROFESSIONAL coorespondance!
I posted a cat on Petfinder only to be contacted by someone whose employer
wants to adopt my pet as a gift for his wifethe story was that the guy
owned a car lot somewhere south
I have to agree. Even places that start well can fall apart quickly. (The
place in Florida that claims to never turn a cat away and has only been around
since 2003 really concerns me. If they're not in trouble yet, they will be.)
I have seen just a tiny handful of really wonderful
i don't think that rikki's has been around all that long, tho--i
started working at the sanctuary here in late 2002, and i'm pretty
sure they started up after that--so much depends on what went into the
process of starting up and planning and putting things into practice!
On 1/16/07, Susan
Haha! I'll email them, if no one else wants to... and pretend to be giving
up my cat. LOL! That sounds immensely fun! (how many of us rescuers ever get
the chance to be on the other end, LOL)
Hi, my name is Julia, and I have to get rid of my cat because my new
husband is allergic to him, plus I'm
that's MEAN, phaewyrn--you KNOW how much we hate to get emails like
that, and how hard we have to work to be polite to the people (?) who
send them!
On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Haha! I'll email them, if no one else wants to... and pretend to be giving
up my cat.
Make him a ten-year old solid black shorthaired cat who doesn't get along well
with other cats. Or maybe a former feral.
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's MEAN, phaewyrn--you KNOW how
much we hate to get emails like
that, and how hard we have to work to be polite to the people
hey, phaewyrn, that's the one with ringworm, right?
On 1/16/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Make him a ten-year old solid black shorthaired cat who doesn't get along
well with other cats. Or maybe a former feral.
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's MEAN, phaewyrn--you
My friend brought an FIV positive feral to Tiger Ranch a little over a year
ago. She said it wasn't a bad place for ferals as they all looked healthy.
She said new ferals were kept inside until the spring. Once the warmer
weather appeared they were permitted to roam.However, she said
I got home and Lucy felt warm. I took her temp about 20 minutes ago and it
was 105.7. I gave her doxicycline (she has been on amoxi) and fluids (150 ml)
and put some ice under her paws. I took her temp again and it was 105.6. I
am trying to figure out whether to take her to the ER or not.
*Personally, I think I would take her to the ER. My Sarah ended up with
vision problems from a fever that high. 99.5 - 102.5 are considered normal
range.*
*Leslie =^..^=*
On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I got home and Lucy felt warm. I took her temp about 20 minutes
Take her to the ER. That's too high and it could get even higher as the night
wears on.
Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Personally, I think I would take
her to the ER. My Sarah ended up with vision problems from a fever that high.
99.5 - 102.5 are considered normal range.
*Michelle, I looked up a few things and found this on *
http://cats.about.com/library/howto/httaketemp.htm:
*Tips:*
1. This project will be much easier if you have someone to hold the
cat and pet it while you lift her tail and insert the thermometer.
2. A temperature of 105°F is a
I just took her temp again and it is down from 105.7 to 105.3 in about half
an hour. I also just gave her 1/4 baby aspirin. I have been prepared to
take her to the ER, waiting for Gray to get home from work to go with me (he
is
on way). Now that it is going down some on its own and fluids
I don't PERSONALLY worry too much unless fever last more than a couple
of days - if the temp is below normal - it's an urgent situation and you
need to do everything you can to bring it up.. but when a temp is high,
the body is trying to fight something against and it's not necessarily a
BAD
Michelle - I say wait - there really isn't anything they can do to cure
the problem - give some time as it often times goes down.. keep her cool
--- but wait you don't want to stress her too much ..
_
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I took her temp again and it is down to 105.0 (was 105.7, then 105.3) and
she fought me this time, then ate some of her raw food afterwards (I brought it
to her, she still is just laying curled up). At this point I am going to
wait a half hour and take it again and see if it is down
Yes, I think you may be right, for FELV (or FIV) positives, probably putting
them on the antibiotics immediately makes sense... just make sure it's a
very broad spectrum one with few resistant bacteria. Amoxicillin, IMO, is
pointless. But for healthy cats not at risk, I think waiting it out makes
Thanks for that inside view about Tiger Ranch Renee! I see you're still
around!
Phaewryn
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At 03:57 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:
Cats can easily go up to 106.5 their normal is much higher than ours,
I do the fluids it helps so muchBe careful about the
Asprin..there are other meds to reduce the fever should it be
necessary , Fluids as you have been doing are the best, The fever
Helene,
I'm way behind on my email and hope this post finds Delilah feeling better
and eating more.
tonya
Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, all,
I don't communicate nearly as often as I should, but I read the posts and
keep up with you guys. My 16 year old
Elizabeth,
I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet. I use royal canin s/o which
is for both types of crystals. It's expensive, but I can't separate everyone's
food..
t
elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you, Kerry.
***RANT ALERT (from a crazy
Do you have a home sub-q fluids set up? If so, some cool fluids might help
bring it down more. You can also wipe the foot pads with rubbing alcohol and
blow on them, the evaporation lowers the body temperature (rinse them well
with cold water after you're done, as the alcohol shouldn't be
I gave her fluids about an hour ago and assume that is part of what is
bringing it down. I also have had an ice pack under her (she is on a sleeping
bag
and I have it under the sleeping bag under her) for the last hour or so. I
have not tried the alcohol yet.
How is calici treated?
Her fever is now down to 104.5, and I realized that the ice was not cold
through the sleeping bag so moved it above the sleeping bag next to her wrapped
in a t-shirt. She ate more and seems more alert. I am actually surprised how
alert she is given that her temp is still so high, though
Usually just by antibiotics to kill secondary bacterial infections and any
number of things for the oral ulcers... it's the lesser of the two main
causes of URI. It usually doesn't have life-long respiratory effects like
Herpes often does. Like I said, if you can get the Feline Interferon OMEGA
Yeah, you can actually put the ice right under her chest/belly, with only a
hand towel or a sweatshirt between her and the ice. I once brought a kitten
back from unconsciousness from a high fever by putting him DIRECTLY on a bag
of frozen peas. (I rotated him often though)
Phaewryn
Thanks. I don't want to stress her by looking in her mouth right now (am
already taking temps hourly, has been half hourly), but she has not had any
discomfort eating so I don't think she has oral ulcers. I hope not, anyway!
She is having a slightly odd other symptom, though, and I can't
pupils contracting with heartbeat? humm... well, glaucoma comes to mind, and
high blood pressure. But that's just my first thoughts, not based on
anything I've heard of specifically.. let me see what I can come up with...
I went to take a shower, that's why I was gone for a while..
Phaewryn
Well, her temp just read 102.5, and she ate more and is rubbing her head
against me and purring, got up and used the litter box. her nose is cold an
wet,
and one ear has cooled down to normal, but the other ear, oddly enough, is
still very hot. not sure what is going on, but am relieved
Rhythmic pupil dilation is called hippus, and everyone that has an eye has
it to an extent. The are conditions where it's off balance or too fast or
too slow... here's what I found online:
A good understanding of what affects pupil size is important in those
unusual cases. First, the pupil is not
At 07:26 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:
great...great..remember that a fever is natures way of killing
unwanted guests, Certain bacteria and virus's have a narrow temp
range so was the body heats up many little bugs die, Fevers in them
selves are not dangerous unless they are outrageously
Good, glad she is better! High fevers can be really miserable! Especially
when you feel bad to begin with!
Phaewryn
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Thanks, Phaerwyn. That sounds scary. I am not sure what to think. It is not
very exaggerated, but it does seem to happen with her pulse.
In a message dated 1/16/2007 10:34:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rhythmic pupil dilation is called hippus, and everyone
Kelly is absolutely right, you should see her body's temperature as a sign
that her body is functioning as designed, as we were just discussing the
possibility of secondary bacterial infections... perhaps she just killed it
all herself! The only bad thing about fever is when it gets too high, it
Phaerwyn, given what you found about rhythmic pupil dilation, do you think I
should be worried about that? If her fever is down in the morning do you
think I should take her in to the vet to check that out?
Well, some of the websites I read say it's normal for everyone with an eye
to have some degree of hippus, it's when it goes out of whack that it's a
problem, you may just be noticing her normal hippus for the first time.
Phaewryn
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is my email/replies getting to this email/group
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
Well, some of the websites I read say it's
well guess what ?
- Original Message -
From: Anna
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
is my email/replies getting to this email/group
- Original Message
god bye.
- Original Message -
From: Anna
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: urgent-- fever advice needed
well guess what ?
- Original Message -
From: Anna
To:
Anna, you had several very nice replies to your question, which and
some good suggestions... You have to look at the subject of the
message, and follow that thread, to see your replies. Hope your
kitty is doing better, we all understand and sympathize.
Gloria
On Jan 16, 2007, at 10:22
I'll have to check on that food when I am sure Antonio is in the clear. The
vet tried to tell me that if I ever took Antonio off of this diet, his
crystals would come right back...and he told me that if I gave this food to
everyone that they could get the other type of crystals. Everyone has
No, I don't think it's anything to worry about. Just watch her for other
signs of seizures, or for other eye symptoms. Sorry I disappeared again, was
doing dishes. Try touching the outside of her eyelid, just put your thumb
over it and put a very light pressure on her eyeball through her eyelid
Is it 'Royal Canin diet feline Urinary S/O'? Where do you buy it? The only
place I've found it available online is in the UK...
On 1/16/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Elizabeth,
I just feed ALL my cats the prescription diet. I use royal canin s/o
which is for both types of
Thanks everyone. I think I did not have the thermometer in far enough the
last time, because her temp is now 103.6, and she seems better not worse, so I
think the lower reading was wrong. But she is acting almost normal now. ate a
lot, came to lay with me, purring etc. Sorry for all the
I am the one who posted it, if there are any questions. I would try chemo
first and only do this if the cat comes out of remission (after trying rescue
chemo drugs that can spur second remissions, like ccnu) or if the cat does not
go into remission. But if chemo is not an option for one
At 09:21 PM 1/16/2007, you wrote:
Be nice...give her a break from temps. We only take patients temps
every 4 hours at the most.
Look at the kitty...not the numbers.. Sort of like we say at work,
Look at the patient not the machines,
So glad she is feeling better, Eating is a much better
as it's a prescription diet, you probably need to have your vet call/fax a
script
this link has the details about the food
http://www.royalcanin.us/vetdiet/felineurinary.html
If you have a petsmart with an attached banfield clinic, they carry it - you'll
need to have your vet call in the
OK, I guess it's available in more clinics than just my vet's (just did a
search) but they'd still have to phone the script over and the petsmart has
better hours.
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his
life,
That's what I do too. The s/o NORMALIZES the pH of the urine which deals with
both struvite and oxalate AND makes it OK for the kitty without the problem to
eat it too.
The only thing you really have to worry about is that the s/o is a pretty high
calorie food.
Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El
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