[Finale] Re: TAN: leger lines

2003-09-30 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Acct
> I, too, have heard that many instrumentalists (specifically violinists) prefer leger lines to 8va symbols. I can accept this up to 5-leger-line (and a half) c4. Do players really prefer leger lines even higher? I'm currently working on a passage for violin that hangs around e4 (6 leger lines in t

RE: [Finale] Staff tool

2003-09-30 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 9:47 PM +0200 9/30/03, Mike wrote: Hi! Yes it is the same layer. This is how it looks like and it's the same when choosing define staff styles in staff menu. Mike Why are the stems up, and short? This tells me that there is something in another layer, probalby layer 1, that has been turned in

Re: [Finale] What is "TAN"?

2003-09-30 Thread David H. Bailey
TANgential to the main subject of the list. Richard Huggins wrote: Occasionally messages to this list include "TAN" in the subject line. What is that all about? --RH ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] What is "TAN"?

2003-09-30 Thread Klaus Bjerre
on 30/09/03 23:31, Richard Huggins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Occasionally messages to this list include "TAN" in the subject line. What > is that all about? TAN is the skin colour you acquire, when you leave the comforting shade of general Finale topics. Healthy and acceptable in limited dose

[Finale] What is "TAN"?

2003-09-30 Thread Richard Huggins
Occasionally messages to this list include "TAN" in the subject line. What is that all about? --RH ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] Finale, EPS and PDF - Final fix for eps export in WinXP(?)

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Cholewa
A little report: I have now successfully converted a Finale2004 eps file into a pdf using GSview (Gostscript 8.11 and Gsview 4.42beta). I had a couple error messages about the bounding box, but I didn't find any differences in accepting or ignoring these messages. I must say that now all the graphi

RE: [Finale] Staff tool

2003-09-30 Thread Mike
Ok! There I got it, staff style definition box. Tim, many thank's for help. Mike.. -Original Message- From: Tim Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 30 september 2003 22:26 To: Mike Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Staff tool Did you look at the staff style definition

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Andrew Stiller
Yes, and another way to think about this is to realize that beginning instrumentalists do not first learn to identify, label and play "notes," but "fingerings." They learn, in other words, a tablature that applies to their instrument, with each line or space denoting a specific fingering. Lab

Re: [Finale] Staff tool

2003-09-30 Thread Tim Thompson
Did you look at the staff style definition box? Check to make sure that the alternate notation box is checked, and that the slash notation is selected as the alternate notation. If that is all right, you will want to go to Document Options > Alternate Notation, and make sure the correct chara

RE: [Finale] Staff tool

2003-09-30 Thread Mike
Hi! Yes it is the same layer. This is how it looks like and it's the same when choosing define staff styles in staff menu. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David H. Bailey Sent: den 30 september 2003 12:05 To: Mike Cc: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Finale] TAN: leger lines (was: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet)

2003-09-30 Thread story
r.p.> I, too, have heard that many instrumentalists (specifically r.p.> violinists) prefer leger lines to 8va symbols. I can accept this up to r.p.> 5-leger-line (and a half) c4. Do players really prefer leger lines r.p.> even higher? Few people will be able to sight-read parts that are consisten

Re: [Finale] TAN: leger lines (was: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet)

2003-09-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
To be honest, it all depends. If it is a passage which suddenly jumps to a very high note, ledger lines can be a real obstacle, in finding out whether it is an e4 or g4 or whatever. But a change to 8va in the middle of a high passage regularly throws me. Then, I am not really confronted with this

Re: [Finale] Finale, EPS and PDF

2003-09-30 Thread Kurt Gnos
Richard, works for me, too, more or less. First, its somewhat faster to crop the thing in Acrobat instead of Finale, anyway, more intuitive. Funny my print results from QuarkXpress: The file without preview printet fine on my HP 2100M PS printer The file including preview got not printed - error

Re: [Finale] TAN: leger lines (was: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet)

2003-09-30 Thread John Howell
Robert Patterson wrote: I, too, have heard that many instrumentalists (specifically violinists) prefer leger lines to 8va symbols. I can accept this up to 5-leger-line (and a half) c4. Do players really prefer leger lines even higher? I don't feel strongly about this, but yes, I think we do. W

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread John Howell
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 09:52 AM, Daniel Dorff wrote (in part): A flutist associates high high C above the 5th line with a certain fingering and seeing that note up there sets up automatic muscle memory in fingers and embouchure that isn't true for the visual experience of the C on the

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread John Howell
On the senza misura question, I know from personal experience that many performers want to know exactly when to play, and don't do well with approximate rhythmic notation. But as soon as one makes the notation more specific, then the freeness is hopelessly lost. Tim I do some of my Renaissance

Re: [Finale] Finale, EPS and PDF - Final fix for eps export in WinXP (?)

2003-09-30 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 03:24 AM, Mike Cholewa wrote: Open a music font in Fontlab and save it. That's all. [snip] PS. If anybody would like to try this just send a mail. I have 1mb zip file with Finale type 1 fonts that should work in WinXp. Mike sent me this file, but it still didn'

[Finale] Fix the archives! (was: Import Sibelius; Midi messages)

2003-09-30 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 06:56 AM, I wrote: To search the list, just go to Google and search with "site:mail.shsu.edu finale [desired search terms]". However, be advised that the HTML interface of the archives has been broken for about the last six weeks; all posts before then are e

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:10 AM 9/30/03 -0400, Tim Thompson wrote: >On the senza misura question, I know from personal experience that many >performers want to know exactly when to play, and don't do well with >approximate rhythmic notation. But as soon as one makes the notation >more specific, then the freeness i

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 07:58 AM, David Horne wrote: On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:52:35 -0400, "Daniel Dorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: So if this theory is valid, and I believe it is, then it makes most sense to always write for flute without 8va signs, but to sometimes use them for piano.

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread David Horne
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 09:52:35 -0400, "Daniel Dorff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > So if this theory is valid, and I > believe it is, then it makes most sense to always write for flute without > 8va signs, but to sometimes use them for piano. It sounds like Dennis's > colleagues would agree with this.

Re: [Finale] Import Sibelius; Midi messages

2003-09-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Stan Hoffman wrote: Can Finale import Sibelius files? Sibelius isn't listed in the 2003 import menu and I couldn't locate information on this on the website. Not directly, but Recordare (the proprietor of which subscribes to this list) has released a version of it's "Dolet" plug-in for Sibelius,

Re: [Finale] TAN: leger lines (was: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet)

2003-09-30 Thread Robert Patterson Finale
I, too, have heard that many instrumentalists (specifically violinists) prefer leger lines to 8va symbols. I can accept this up to 5-leger-line (and a half) c4. Do players really prefer leger lines even higher? I'm currently working on a passage for violin that hangs around e4 (6 leger lines in

Re: [Finale] Import Sibelius; Midi messages

2003-09-30 Thread David H. Bailey
Recordare has an xml plug-in for sibelius just like the xml plug-in for Finale, so you can get that and export your sibelius file(s) in xml format, then use the Finale xml plug-in to import into Finale. You get a lot more data than you would using midi file transfer. Stan Hoffman wrote: Hello-

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Tim Thompson
Based on anecdotal evidence, I would agree with this theory (in most cases). Tim On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 09:52 AM, Daniel Dorff wrote: I've heard some editors point out that the piano keyboard looks the same in each octave and requires the same eye/hand coordination patterns in any

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Tim Thompson
On Tuesday, September 30, 2003, at 09:20 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: To return to the ledger lines question: I use the clear-at-three-feet rule, based on my aging vision. Good rule. I haven't quite hit 40 yet, and I'm sure that when I do, I will have a new appreciation for that! On the s

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Daniel Dorff
I've heard some editors point out that the piano keyboard looks the same in each octave and requires the same eye/hand coordination patterns in any octave, whereas wind and string instruments are fingered differently in the highest registers compared to below. A flutist associates high high C abov

RE: [Finale] Import Sibelius; Midi messages

2003-09-30 Thread Brad Beyenhof
Stan: To search the list, just go to Google and search with "site:mail.shsu.edu finale [desired search terms]". However, be advised that the HTML interface of the archives has been broken for about the last six weeks; all posts before then are easily found, though. To import Sibelius files, one

[Finale] Import Sibelius; Midi messages

2003-09-30 Thread Stan Hoffman
Hello-- Can Finale import Sibelius files? Sibelius isn't listed in the 2003 import menu and I couldn't locate information on this on the website. Thank you for the response to my query about microtonal accidentals. Is it possible to create an invisible shape or articulation (the microtonal accide

Re: [Finale] TAN: Extension ranges on ... Bass Clarinet

2003-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:47 PM 9/29/03 -0400, Tim Thompson wrote: >I was rehearsing a piece today on tenor sax with a pianist. My part >went up to C (5 lines above), and I don't have to think too hard about >that, as I am only reading one line, but the pianist was constantly >asking "what's that note?" I work wi

Re: [Finale] TAN PDF question

2003-09-30 Thread Mr. Liudas Motekaitis
http://www.pdfzone.com/toolbox/ If you don't want the full Acrobat, everything else that's available is there. There's a good search engine, but I recommend looking through the list by eye. You'll find more that way. Liudas - Original Message - From: "Johannes Gebauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] TAN PDF question

2003-09-30 Thread David H. Bailey
I don't remember the name of the program, so my reply will be of questionable value, but I do remember seeing a shareware PDF creation program and I asked about that and was told that yes, it could change permissions. It was about 2 months after I had just purchased the full Acrobat so I didn'

[Finale] TAN PDF question

2003-09-30 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Does anyone know of a way to change permissions in PDF documents, other than getting the full Acrobat? Thanks, Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.ed

Re: [Finale] lost buttons

2003-09-30 Thread David H. Bailey
Change to different looking icons. I find that the Traditional (the old-fashioned ones) take up the least amount of real-estate, are the easiest to decipher (I have a 19" monitor running at 1048x768) and might well solve your problem. Stephen Onwood wrote: Hi, When I installed 2k4 I like t

RE: [Finale] Finale, EPS and PDF - Final fix for eps export in WinXP (?)

2003-09-30 Thread Mike Cholewa
Your suggestion is fine. But the reason why eps don't work in winxp is a font problem! After Kurt Gnos last respond I was curious why my fix didn't work for him and it worked for me. I tried with my normal music font (Susato) and all was fine, then with some Finale fonts (Maestro, Petrucci) and th

Re: [Finale] Staff tool

2003-09-30 Thread David H. Bailey
Are you sure you are applying the staff style to the correct layer? Mike wrote: Hi! Question 1: I'm trying to get slash notation by choosing, staff tool, select one bar, right klick and choose slash notation. I got a line that says slash notation but I still have my notes where they were before.

Re: [Finale] Glisses and Accis (was: The Joys of Custom Lines)

2003-09-30 Thread David H. Bailey
I find that sometimes questionable practices end up becoming the norm simply because some big name did it. I find nothing clear about having things collide with accidentals, and would personally hesitate to do it. But Bartok was a meticulous composer and one would imagine he checked the proofs