Re: OT Meanings of words was: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread James Bailey
On 25.08.2004 22:09 Uhr, "Mark D Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 25, 2004, at 2:34 PM, James Bailey wrote: > >> But this is the point. Words have meanings, but if, as you say (and I >> agree) >> the English meaning doesn't match the Italian meaning, what is the >> English >> meaning?

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:01 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I described exactly this scenario more than once. Since you refuse to actually try it, you probably aren't understanding what people are describing, which really emphasizes the point several of us have made: try it yourself -- you may discover you

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:13 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: In fact, it's something I've mentioned every time we've had this discussion! I guess I didn't emphasize the "surf around the site for a while" part enough. We're talking about different things. Yes, you and David and others mentioned the wh

Re: OT Meanings of words was: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 2:34 PM, James Bailey wrote: But this is the point. Words have meanings, but if, as you say (and I agree) the English meaning doesn't match the Italian meaning, what is the English meaning? That's the whole point, as far as I'm concerned. We have all the musical terms that we

Re: [Finale] FinaleScript capability?

2004-08-25 Thread Harold Owen
Dear Brad, No. I just got my copy of 2005, and I'll check to see if it is included there. Hal In FinMac2k4c, does FinaleScript have the capability to "Export Pages..." from the Graphics tool? This would be amazingly productive if I were able to batch-process a whole score and parts to create EPS fi

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Owain Sutton
Googling "bandstration" (a common method of judging frequency of usage that is used in alt.english.usage) turns up only 18 hits. This is a remarkably low total for a 40 year old term. (for comparison "David W. Fenton" turns up 4,950) ' "David W. Fenton" -finale' reduces that by 3/4. Clearly hi

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2004 at 16:55, Richard Yates wrote: > > > The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 > > > years. > > And you're advocating the use of such a monstrosity? > > I've never heard it, myself, and think it is ridiculous. > > -- > > David W. Fenton > > Googling "bandstrat

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Richard Yates
> > The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 years. > And you're advocating the use of such a monstrosity? > I've never heard it, myself, and think it is ridiculous. > -- > David W. Fenton Googling "bandstration" (a common method of judging frequency of usage that is used in

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
And while all the debate has been furiously raging (well, squalling at least) I downloaded Firefox to see what the fuss was all about.   I've since been having a great time tabbing.  C'est très frais!    Thanks for passing on the word...    Best,    Les   Les MarsdenFounding Music Director

Re: [Finale] OT - New toys (I mean, productivity aids!)

2004-08-25 Thread Howard Begun
David Bailey wrote: > Are there any Windows users with wireless networks on this list who also > use cordless keyboards and/or mice? I am very interested in it, but not > if it eats batteries every few hours. I use an MS Wireless Desktop Elite which includes an Intellimouse Explorer 2.0. I hav

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 18:30:35 -0400, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25 Aug 2004 at 18:13, Darcy James Argue wrote: > > On 25 Aug 2004, at 05:51 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > > > > > >> I actually first started seeing the n

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2004 at 18:13, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 25 Aug 2004, at 05:51 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: > > > > > On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > > > >> I actually first started seeing the need for tabs with regard to > >> Google searches. With tabs, you can open an interesting li

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Aug 2004, at 05:51 PM, Mark D Lew wrote: On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: I actually first started seeing the need for tabs with regard to Google searches. With tabs, you can open an interesting link from the results page in a new tab, then surf around the site for a while i

[Finale] FinaleScript capability?

2004-08-25 Thread Brad Beyenhof
In FinMac2k4c, does FinaleScript have the capability to "Export Pages..." from the Graphics tool? This would be amazingly productive if I were able to batch-process a whole score and parts to create EPS files for a publisher, rather than going through and creating EPS files for each individual Fina

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2004 at 14:51, Mark D Lew wrote: > On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: > > > I actually first started seeing the need for tabs with regard to > > Google searches. With tabs, you can open an interesting link from > > the results page in a new tab, then surf around the site

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:06 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: I actually first started seeing the need for tabs with regard to Google searches. With tabs, you can open an interesting link from the results page in a new tab, then surf around the site for a while if you want, and just close the tab when you're

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Are you under the impression that I'm impatient about the delay while I wait for pages to load? Isn't everyone? I mean, all other things being equal, you'd prefer *not* to wait for new pages to load, right? Well, yeah, but it's not a very st

OT Meanings of words was: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread James Bailey
On 25.08.2004 14:14 Uhr, "Mark D Lew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Walking" isn't a very good translation of "andante". The closest > English equivalent would be "going", and in the musical context it's > more like "moving". Perhaps you are getting confused with Spanish, > where "andar" is a

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:11 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Surely there are valid reasons, such as comparisons between web sites when you're buying something online (or just shopping online) or when selecting a batch of items on, say, Amazon, or doing research and collecting a group of references. Sure t

RE: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Fisher, Allen
Ouch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlberg Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription? At 3:21 PM -0400 8/25/04, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 25

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 1:03 PM, James Bailey wrote: I don't know, I've always simply seen "transcription". String quartet transcription, transcribed for piano solo. I don't think that there's anything against it, just that transcribed is older, and classical music tends to prefer older terms. I think

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:42 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Someone please tell me WHAT the classical music world has against the word "arrangement." What's wrong with saying "Arranged for band"? "Arranged for string quartet"? "Arranged for wind octet"? The classical music world has nothing against

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:42 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: "Bandstration"? ? Someone please tell me WHAT the classical music world has against the word "arrangement." What's wrong with saying "Arranged for band"? "Arranged for string quartet"? "Arranged for wind octet"? Well, it's kind of what thi

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 25, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Carlberg Jones wrote: At 3:21 PM -0400 8/25/04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Aug 2004 at 11:41, Andrew Stiller wrote: What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other than the generic "arrangement"? -- The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread James Bailey
Title: Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription? I don't know, I've always simply seen "transcription". String quartet transcription, transcribed for piano solo. I don't think that there's anything against it, just that transcribed is older, and classical music tends to prefer ol

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread dhbailey
Carlberg Jones wrote: At 3:21 PM -0400 8/25/04, David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Aug 2004 at 11:41, Andrew Stiller wrote: What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other than the generic "arrangement"? -- The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 years. What woul

Re: [Finale] OT - New toys (I mean, productivity aids!)

2004-08-25 Thread Rocky Road
> > > One is a Logitech cordless optical mouse > >Wait until the batteries start to run out. > >Which should be about two hours after you hook it up. > >More specifically: none of my clients have kept used a cordless mouse >for very long, because the batteries run out so quickly, and start

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
"Bandstration"? ? Someone please tell me WHAT the classical music world has against the word "arrangement." What's wrong with saying "Arranged for band"? "Arranged for string quartet"? "Arranged for wind octet"? - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Raymond Horton
David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Aug 2004 at 11:41, Andrew Stiller wrote: What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other than the generic "arrangement"? -- David W. Fenton The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 years. And you're advocating the u

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 3:21 PM -0400 8/25/04, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 25 Aug 2004 at 11:41, Andrew Stiller wrote: >> >What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other >> >than the generic "arrangement"? >> > >> >-- >> The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 years. What woul

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2004 at 11:41, Andrew Stiller wrote: > >What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other > >than the generic "arrangement"? > > > >-- > David W. Fenton > > The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 years. And you're advocating the use of such a mon

Re: [Finale] finale v.s. Sibelius

2004-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Aug 2004 at 1:18, Darcy James Argue wrote: > But Sibelius has gotten dramatically better with the last two major > upgrades. They have closed the gap in many areas, and frankly, have > pulled drmatically ahead in areas where they used to lag, especially > when it comes to performance. In o

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Aug 2004 at 21:40, Mark D Lew wrote: > On Aug 24, 2004, at 10:46 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > If you like re-using a single window for every document, and the lag > > time it takes to re-render when you go back, and if you don't mind > > the proliferation of multiple windows when you want

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 14:23:31 -0400, Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 25 Aug 2004, at 03:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: > > > Anyway, it sounds to me like all you're describing is a system for > > loading pages in background. > > This allows you to cmd-click to open tabs in the backgrou

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Actually, the READ ME 2005 files says how to transfer preferences on mac on page 2... JD wrote: Since you're on a Mac, you much Save Special/Save Preferences in order for changes to take effect. At least on 2004 and earlier. It may be different on 2005, but it's worth a look. Finale.i

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread JD
on 8/25/04 11:24 AM, Eric Dannewitz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Um, this was on my Macintosh. I put it in a new Finale 2005 folder. > > It's not a huge deal, just kind of annoyingI'll try doing that > .ini file thing on my Windows machine later.. > > dhbailey wrote: > >> 1) ar

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You da man! Allen Fisher wrote: Eric-- Mass Edit Select All MassEdit-->Change-->Tuplets The 2k5 defaults are: Placement: Stem/Beam Side Enhanced Tuplets: Checked Avoid Staff: Checked Never Bracket Beamed Notes on Beam Side Positioning Tuplet H: 0 V: 24 EVPU Shape H: 0 V: 0 Maximum Slope: 10 degrees

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread Allen Fisher
Eric-- Mass Edit Select All MassEdit-->Change-->Tuplets The 2k5 defaults are: Placement: Stem/Beam Side Enhanced Tuplets: Checked Avoid Staff: Checked Never Bracket Beamed Notes on Beam Side Positioning Tuplet H: 0 V: 24 EVPU Shape H: 0 V: 0 Maximum Slope: 10 degrees Everything else should be u

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Um, this was on my Macintosh. I put it in a new Finale 2005 folder. It's not a huge deal, just kind of annoyingI'll try doing that .ini file thing on my Windows machine later.. dhbailey wrote: 1) are you on Windows or Mac? 2) did you install over your old Finale2004 installation o

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Aug 2004, at 03:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: Anyway, it sounds to me like all you're describing is a system for loading pages in background. That's how I use it, yes. You asked about "personality types" -- the whole "kitchen cupboards open" vs. "kitchen cupboards closed" thing -- and there's a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread dhbailey
Eric Dannewitz wrote: Is there a way to automatically have Finale 2005 make existing Tuplets, Enhanced Tuplets? Couple of other things I noticed is that none of my program settings were transfered over. Like the location of Saved files, backsups, etc. 1) are you on Windows or Mac? 2) di

[Finale] Finale 2005 and Tuplets

2004-08-25 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Is there a way to automatically have Finale 2005 make existing Tuplets, Enhanced Tuplets? Couple of other things I noticed is that none of my program settings were transfered over. Like the location of Saved files, backsups, etc. ___ Finale ma

[Finale] Does Finale 2005 import from Encore 4.5.5???

2004-08-25 Thread Reuven
Hi All:   I guess that I'm a dinosaur - still using Encore to be able using files created by friends.   I found out that Finale 2004 could not read files created by Encore 4.5.5, only files created by the earlier version - Encore 4.5.0.   IS THE NEW FINALE CAPABLE OF READING ENCORE FILES???

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!)

2004-08-25 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Reading what Dennis W. Manasco wrote (quoted below, in part) leads me to believe that there are a number of people who did not carefully read the license agreement upon installation. The fact is, MakeMusic!'s present policy with respect to software installation, even with the mandatory regist

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 25, 2004, at 6:08 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: Ha ha! That's strange, because I LIKE having all my drawers and cupboards open (to the distress of my wife) but I don't like tabbed browsing! Maybe I should give it another look, since it seems to suit my personality type so well... Ha ha. Bu

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 08:56 AM 8/25/04 -0700, Brad Beyenhof wrote: >On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:39:55 -0400, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > >> now I've got a utility to minimize everything that's typically running into >> the system tray (mail, browser, audio editor, Finale, etc.). > >Out of curiosity, what utility is that

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:39:55 -0400, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > now I've got a utility to minimize everything that's typically running into > the system tray (mail, browser, audio editor, Finale, etc.). Out of curiosity, what utility is that? > I've never really found much of a use for multipl

Re: [Finale] Arrangement, Orchestration or Transcription?

2004-08-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
What about piano to concert band? What would you call that (other than the generic "arrangement"? -- David W. Fenton The term "bandstration" has been in widespread use for over 40 years. -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:08 AM 8/25/04 -0400, Christopher Smith wrote: > >On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: >> >> I rarely have several windows open at once. We went through this with >> the Exposé discussion as well. I just don't like having more than a >> couple of windows open anywhere. It feels

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!) (It's Owain, btw! :D )

2004-08-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Aug 25, 2004, at 12:40 AM, Mark D Lew wrote: I rarely have several windows open at once. We went through this with the Exposé discussion as well. I just don't like having more than a couple of windows open anywhere. It feels like clutter to me. I'd rather close them and open them again la

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!)

2004-08-25 Thread Owain Sutton
Dennis W. Manasco wrote: At 6:53 am -0400 8/24/04, dhbailey wrote: Microsoft has turned Windows into a de facto subscription service: All versions prior to XP are being deprecated. None will be supported after 3/31/05. Installation of XP, or following releases, will be required to receive esse

Re: [Finale] Reply to Dwain (too long!)

2004-08-25 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 6:53 am -0400 8/24/04, dhbailey wrote: Dennis W. Manasco wrote: [snip] Look at other companies that have switched to Copy Protection Servers: Intuit deprecates older versions as regularly as clockwork; look at what Microsoft is doing to every version of Windows prior to (its Copy Protection S

Re: [Finale] Tabbed Browsing

2004-08-25 Thread Mark D Lew
On Aug 24, 2004, at 10:41 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: I know you are incredibly resistant to changing the way you work once you've found a routine that works for you, true and I respect that. It's just that tabbed browsing seems tailor-made for someone like you, someone who wants to finish read