Hi Patrick,
On 30 Jul 2008, at 9:02 PM, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
1. Accidentals
He claims that, in a (e.g.) scalar run:
(Key of Bb Major), if the clarinet plays a scalar run (with Ab
accidentals only, outside of the key) starting on it's written low F
(below the staff), it will play F, G, Ab,
Here's my take.
I think all notation books will agree that accidentals apply only to
one octave. In usage, I find that players will play all octaves with
the same accidental. Perhaps your particular ensemble is used to
having an accidental show on only one octave while applying to all,
but it is t
Ah yes, Powell's book is amazing. We've been using it for a few years.
I find I even recommend it to composers who come to interview for grad
school -- some how showing them that book makes our school look all
the much better.
Your website is also terrific, and I always recommend your fonts!
-Car
I have a brother that plays in a prestigious big band, and I have recently been
hired as the copyist for this particular band.
I had done non-contracted copy work for them before, and need to clear up some
notation issues with the experts, because we argue. I'm not extensive in jazz,
but I kno
Has anyone else out there taught or developed a large-scale
entry-level Finale class? I'd love to share (well, steal, if truth be
told) ideas if you have. Most of the students will be taking the
course online -- I've been making screen casts for them -- and only
one lab full (20) will be in the
Bill,
There are a few situations where a tied note will play back as two different
pitches (generally they play back correctly, though.)
Is one of the notes altered? If you have F# in one bar and tie it to Fnat in
the next bar, it will play back as two different pitches (which should be
obvio
On 30.07.2008 Tyler Turner wrote:
I think the reason it's not in there is related to publishers complaining about
receiving user files that had terribly indiscriminate use of staff lists which
translated into more work for them.
No, that surely is not the reason.
Johannes
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I've been using Finale since 2001 and am a full-time musician. After
nearly 8 years of experience with the program I can honestly say that
it is the most unreliable and frustrating program I own. I refer to
it as my "Blue Streak" program because nearly every time I open it I
cuss a blue str
Yep, see it all the time in concert band music anyway ... use it
myself for the exact reasons heretofore mentioned.
Cheers,
Dean
On Jul 30, 2008, at 2:14 PM, dhbailey wrote:
Don Hart wrote:
Not sure if it's accepted as *correct* everywhere, but I think
it's fairly
common for a tie on a no
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:39:44 -0400
To:
Subject: [Finale] Playback engine has bugs
> Why does it allow you to tie a note to a rest? I never see this in real
> music performed.
I see it all the time. Not so much a note tied specifically to a rest but a
note
Ray Horton wrote:
On 30.07.2008 Barbara Levy wrote:
I'm crawling out of lurkdom to ask the collective wisdom: what
opinions do you have (good, bad, indifferent) about the Mic Notator
in F2008? Is it essential to have Finale's special mic for this?
And will this mic also work for SmartMusic?
Don Hart wrote:
Not sure if it's accepted as *correct* everywhere, but I think it's fairly
common for a tie on a note leading to a rest to indicate "let vibrate", like
in a cymbal swell.
And sometimes it's used on other instruments in an attempt
to get people to sustain the note immediately p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've noticed when I tie across a bar line, the playback engine ignores
the tie as if they are two separate notes. Was this ever fixed?
Why does it allow you to tie a note to a rest? I never see this in real
music performed.
Also, when you change the pitch of a tied n
Tyler Turner wrote:
--- On Wed, 7/30/08, dhbailey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Absent a true programming need, there is no logical
reason for such a limitation because any such change in
the number
of staff lists would have involved programming time
which would better have been spent elsewhere
On Wed, July 30, 2008 3:43 pm, John Howell wrote:
> At 11:39 AM -0400 7/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>A SLUR would normally be used in place of a tie between unequal
>>pitches. As far as I know, unequal pitches are NEVER tied together.
> Quite correct.
Pitches yes -- but just to be clear, di
It's not all FireWire devices. My M-Audio FireWire Audiophile never
had this problem. I've always had stereo playback from Finale. (That
said, OBVIOUSLY this should be a high-priority fix.)
However, my FW Audiophile does have a new, incredibly infuriating
problem. There is a bug in Leopard
At 11:39 AM -0400 7/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've noticed when I tie across a bar line, the playback engine
ignores the tie as if they are two separate notes. Was this ever
fixed?
Can't speak to that.
Why does it allow you to tie a note to a rest? I never see this in
real music perf
I would be very surprised if even 100 people have complained about this.
What's particularly sad is that they knew about this problem from the
time FinMac 2008a came out because I talked to Support about it right
after I received it. I got the canned response Bob quotes below.
It's not like it's
Ray Horton wrote:
On 30.07.2008 Barbara Levy wrote:
I'm crawling out of lurkdom to ask the collective wisdom: what
opinions do you have (good, bad, indifferent) about the Mic Notator
in F2008? Is it essential to have Finale's special mic for this?
And will this mic also work for SmartMusic?
Well, I got the definitive answer from MakeMusic on the FireWire audio
interface issue, as follows:
Thank you for contacting MakeMusic Customer Support.
I deeply apologize for this issue in Finale. At this point it is not
fixed in Finale 2009 and I do not know what the plans are to fix it.
On 30.07.2008 Barbara Levy wrote:
I'm crawling out of lurkdom to ask the collective wisdom: what
opinions do you have (good, bad, indifferent) about the Mic Notator
in F2008? Is it essential to have Finale's special mic for this?
And will this mic also work for SmartMusic? I would find it S
At 6:48 AM -0400 7/30/08, Blake Richardson wrote:
Well, the reality is that in every band and orchestra I've ever played with,
the librarian *does* photocopy all the parts before handing them out. They
keep the originals in the library so if one of the musicians loses their
music at some point,
Not sure if it's accepted as *correct* everywhere, but I think it's fairly
common for a tie on a note leading to a rest to indicate "let vibrate", like
in a cymbal swell.
Don Hart
On 7/30/08 10:39 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why does it allow you to tie a note to a rest
Sounds like your Launch Services Database is tangled up. When I deleted the
demo folder off my system (and emptied the trash), it forgot about the demo.
I would recommend a utility like ONYX or TechTool to clean it up.
Some of you Mac power users out there probably have a better idea.
-Orig
Believe it or not, this is a valid answer ;-)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carolyn Bremer
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 2:03 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Resize tool for systems inoperative in 2009?
Good answer!
-Carolyn
Repeat items will align to the right of a multi-measure rest. For those of
you who were looking for a way to avoid breaking up multi-measure rests for
ritardandos and the like, this may help in some situations, at least to make
a part look the way you want.
Don Hart
_
I believe it was mentioned here that the limit on staff lists is not present
in the repeat tool. To this non-programmer, that seems to be the most
curious thing in all of this.
In 2006 (my current version), as far as I can tell, the repeat tool accesses
the same group of staff lists that are avai
I've noticed when I tie across a bar line, the playback engine ignores
the tie as if they are two separate notes. Was this ever fixed?
Why does it allow you to tie a note to a rest? I never see this in real
music performed.
Also, when you change the pitch of a tied note, it does not try to
c
So, I downloaded the 2009 demo and messed around with it. Then I
attempted to trash it so that my old files would not keep opening in
it. Now, when I attempt to open a preexisting file done in Mac07k, I
get the message, "Operation could not be completed. An unexpected
error occurred (erro
So big business is now dictating feature reductions? Stupid.
There should have been a compromise or something. If you have more than 4
staff lists only the first 4 can support the new measure expressions. After
that, it would be like previous versions. Something like that would have
been a better w
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Tyler Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the reason it's not in there is related to publishers complaining
> about receiving user files that had terribly indiscriminate use of
> staff lists which translated into more work for them.
>
Given the new paradi
--- On Wed, 7/30/08, dhbailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Absent a true programming need, there is no logical reason
> for such a limitation because any such change in the number
>
> of staff lists would have involved programming time which
> would better have been spent elsewhere.
>
I d
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:42 AM, dhbailey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think
> there may be a programming issue where underlying changes in the way the
> program works might have made internal tracking or control of more than 4
> staff lists difficult.
>
I do not know any more about how this fu
I'm on the faculty of the Bob Cole Conservatory. Until last March,
that was the "regular" music department. That's when we announced the
endowment which, by the way, is only used for student scholarships.
We're instituting a sophomore-level course in the fall required for
all music majors to learn
Aaron Sherber wrote:
On Wed, July 30, 2008 9:49 am, dhbailey wrote:
Aaron Sherber wrote:
In Fin2007 and 2008, there is a staff style called Blank Notation with
Rests. (If this is a file you created in an earlier version, you'll need
to create the staff style or import it from a library.) Put th
On Wed, July 30, 2008 9:49 am, dhbailey wrote:
> Aaron Sherber wrote:
>>
>> In Fin2007 and 2008, there is a staff style called Blank Notation with
>> Rests. (If this is a file you created in an earlier version, you'll need
>> to create the staff style or import it from a library.) Put the cue
>> no
G GRIFFITHS wrote:
OK - this is odd.
I fire up Finale - all fine. Playback (midi and VST) all fine.
Then I open ITunes - playback is reduced to a crawl, like playing a tape
really slow. All in slow-motion.
Same then happens on YouTube. Video and audio crawl - audio not just slow,
but very deep
This sounds like conflicting sample rates...one sets at44100 and the other sets
at a different rate, maybe 22050. But even if my figures are not correct, the
concept is, at least on a PC.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of dhbailey
Sent: Wed 30-Jul-08 10:10
To
Blake Richardson wrote:
[snip]> paying for the rights to copy the parts in that
manner. Whether that's legal
or not (the Fair Use doctrine-- which allows the user to make a back-up
copy-- would seem to suggest that it is)
While I agree that organizations do that all the time, there
is nothing
Carolyn Bremer wrote:
No -- I teach at Cal State Long Beach.
Wow, small world -- I'm listening to KKJZ streaming on my
computer, and I listen to it almost every day! Excellent
radio station.
Are you on the faculty of the Bob Cole Conservatory of Music
or is there a separate music departm
Aaron Sherber wrote:
At 07:53 PM 7/29/2008, Ryan Beard wrote:
>I'm trying to wrap my head around getting things to
>show in the score only and not in the parts and vice
>versa.
>Specifically, I want one text block to show only on
>the first page of the score and not in the parts.
Place the
Barbara Levy wrote:
Hello!
I'm crawling out of lurkdom to ask the collective wisdom:
what opinions do you have (good, bad, indifferent) about
the Mic Notator in F2008? Is it essential to have
Finale's special mic for this? And will this mic also
work for SmartMusic? I would find it SO much ea
John Howell wrote:
[snip of good clarification of copyright issues]
And are you aware that by far the majority of orchestral music is
available only on rental?
[snip]
I just want to clarify this remark in an otherwise clear
reply -- the majority of *newer* (read that as copyrighted)
orchestra
There is a Sibelius group at yahoogroups.com and the
Sibelius Senior Products Manager, Daniel Spreadbury
maintains an official presence there and could answer any
questions you might have about AU support issues or any
concerns you have run into with recent versions of Finale.
Ask at the Sibel
David W. Fenton wrote:
[snip]
If they are right, why wouldn't the problem take care of itself? Why
cripple the old way in order to force people to use the new way?
That's a very good question, and one which I think the
answer to involves more complexity than simple arbitrary
restriction t
James Gilbert wrote:
Shows you what I know about orchestras. I thought the players kept their
music from rehearsal to rehearsal so they could practice. Since they don't,
it makes no since to go digital until the way orchestras operate with regard
to music changes. (That is, until the players keep
James Gilbert wrote:
[snip]
The cost of the units are starting to come down in price, but they still are
too high. If one can buy Finale at full cost or Adobe CS Photoshop at full
cost, they can afford one of those units. I'm not sure the Kindle type of
units (Amazon) would work too well with mu
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the cost issues could be resolved this technology holds a lot of promise.
Many orchestras have corporate sponsors and I can see a tie-in developing
where the company that develops the technology is also a sponsor of the
orchestra.
The "ePaper" technology that is used
Randolph Peters wrote:
Robert Patterson wrote:
Speaking of digital music stands.
Losing power is a non-issue. I've been in concerts and rehearsals when
the power went out, and believe me the show did *not* go on. And this
was with good old-fashioned Manhassetts. (Remember that thing we need
Allen,
Thank you for offering to speak with someone at MakeMusic
about getting an official presence here. I am sad that it
probably won't be you, as you appear to have a terrific
grasp of the program as well as a personality which appears
to be able to explain things in a calm and clear mann
On 30.07.2008 shirling & neueweise wrote:
anyone close to or in berlin on friday and got a hankering for some
easy-listening electroacoustic love songs to soothe the soul?
Hi Jef,
although I am in Berlin right now, we have quartet rehearsals all
weekend, so I won't manage. If you are interes
No, you have to shift/click then delete staves without.
As Robert has pointed out, MM have confiscated Staff List for
expressions en bloc, the philosophy behind seems to be that it is
more intuitive to work on the screen instead of consulting dialogue
boxes, means also plugins. I have alway
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 09:43:49 -0400 Bob Shuster wrote:
Can anyone confirm or deny that this issue has been fixed? (Intel Macs with
Firewire audio interfaces have left channel output only since 2008.) I'm
waiting to upgrade until I find out!
-
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Just when I was just ab
From: John Howell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:47:53 -0400
To:
Subject: RE: [Finale] Digital music stands
> And something no one has even mentioned is this: How is the music of
> many different publishers, in different countries all over the world,
> and covered by ma
OK - this is odd.
I fire up Finale - all fine. Playback (midi and VST) all fine.
Then I open ITunes - playback is reduced to a crawl, like playing a tape
really slow. All in slow-motion.
Same then happens on YouTube. Video and audio crawl - audio not just slow,
but very deep as well.
If I quit
When applying expressions (say dynamics) using the new drag method, is there
a way to make it only apply to staves with notes in?
Say the 2nd trombone isn't playing in a measure, but I want to ff to all the
other brass, I use the metatool-drag to enclose all brass, and Finale puts
an ff on the 2nd
anyone close to or in berlin on friday and got a
hankering for some easy-listening electroacoustic
love songs to soothe the soul?
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Hi,
Your DX7 is probably not connected at all, I mean sometimes you think,
that the device is connected but the cursor - of the speedy entry tool
- is just "resting" on that particular line or space!
Go to midi setup and here you can se the midi ports your system
provides you with. Select t
On 30.07.2008 Barbara Levy wrote:
I'm crawling out of lurkdom to ask the collective wisdom: what opinions do you
have (good, bad, indifferent) about the Mic Notator in F2008? Is it essential
to have Finale's special mic for this? And will this mic also work for
SmartMusic? I would find it
On 29.07.2008 James Gilbert wrote:
Someone mentioned that orchestras would need to hook the units up to a
network. Other than the simplicity of loading the music into the units prior
to rehearsing, why would they need to be part of a network in rehearsal or
performance? What's the advantage or re
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