Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Raimund Lintzen
You have to do a new music spacing: in db Documents Options 'Music Spacing' choose 'Manual Positioning': 'Clear' That should do it. Greetings Raimund Lintzen dc schrieb: In files I'm revising, I'm finding notes that aren't properly spaced, and respacing the music them does not correct the

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Martin Gieseking
Hi Dennis, I also stumbled over this phenomenon several times. In my case, explicitly loading a spacing table with File/Load Library (e.g. Fibonacci spacing) followed by respacing of the score always solved the problem. Martin Am 21.02.2010 10:48, schrieb dc: In files I'm revising, I'm

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Florence + Michael
If I remember rightly, I just did a copy and paste. I had already set up the correct time signatures in the new file. If you import one of the measures such as you posted into a standard default file with copy/paste, is the spacing problem still there? Michael On 21 Feb 2010, at 16:31, dc

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
Copy and insert is much more reliable than copy and paste when copying across documents. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 21 Feb 2010, at 12:58 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: If I remember rightly, I just did a copy and paste. I had already set up the correct

[Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21

2010-02-21 Thread David Froom
Hi Dennis, I just tried what I think was wrong. My guess is that your guy did manual spacing with the special tools note mover thing, or he dragged things while in speedy note (it amounts to the same thing). In either case, the manual dragging will NOT be fixed by spacing commands,

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Florence + Michael
Yes, generally copy and insert is preferable. But in this case I specifically wanted to get rid of the spacing anomalies in the original document. I don't know if pasting instead of inserting was what made the essential difference, but in any case I got the result I wanted: the new

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21

2010-02-21 Thread Florence + Michael
On 21 Feb 2010, at 19:23, David Froom wrote: Hi Dennis, I just tried what I think was wrong. My guess is that your guy did manual spacing with the special tools note mover thing, or he dragged things while in speedy note (it amounts to the same thing). But dragging like this does not

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Feb 2010 at 17:38, dc wrote: Martin Gieseking écrit: I also stumbled over this phenomenon several times. In my case, explicitly loading a spacing table with File/Load Library (e.g. Fibonacci spacing) followed by respacing of the score always solved the problem. Thanks, Martin. Just

[Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Hi everyone: About two months ago, a conductor who I have as a friend on Facebook said he needed a score to a concerto in a hurry ( I assume for a concert project) and could anyone help him? I wrote to him that I had the file, and if he was agreeable to the fee of 100.00 USD, I'd send it to him.

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Look, he and you had an agreement. Written (email). Go and post on his facebook page, and if you don't hear anything, take him to small claims court. Just because he is a conductor doesn't mean he can screw you out of payment. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Kim Patrick Clow telem...@gmail.com

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote: Look, he and you had an agreement. Written (email). Go and post on his facebook page, and if you don't hear anything, take him to small claims court. Just because he is a conductor doesn't mean he can screw you out

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21

2010-02-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sun Feb 21, at SundayFeb 21 1:55 PM, Florence + Michael wrote: On 21 Feb 2010, at 19:23, David Froom wrote: Hi Dennis, I just tried what I think was wrong. My guess is that your guy did manual spacing with the special tools note mover thing, or he dragged things while in speedy note

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21

2010-02-21 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sun Feb 21, at SundayFeb 21 2:23 PM, dc wrote: David Froom écrit: I just tried what I think was wrong. My guess is that your guy did manual spacing with the special tools note mover thing, or he dragged things while in speedy note (it amounts to the same thing). In either case, the

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
dc wrote: In files I'm revising, I'm finding notes that aren't properly spaced, and respacing the music them does not correct the problem (say, 4 16ths without any accidentals nor anything else going on at the same time that aren't regularly spaced). How can I get this back to normal? One

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Feb 2010 at 17:58, dc wrote: dc écrit: There are also problems at a larger scale, such as measures with similar content that end up with very different widths: www.collins.lautre.net/files/spacing2.jpg Something else very strange here: the Measure attributes dialog box gives the

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Feb 2010 at 16:01, Florence + Michael wrote: I don't think removing changes with special tools will help, since the beat charts are irregular in the examples Dennis gave. Is it not the case that beat charts created by tight note spacing are removed if you use, say, beat spacing? And

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
try his agent first, i find using FB for this kind of thing completely unacceptable and disreputable to the poster. i very often find that a phone call can sort out in a flash what dozens of emails sometimes can't. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Feb 2010 at 14:15, dc wrote: I can manually make the two measures of the last example the same width, but when I respace the music, it reverts to the old spacing. In page layout view does an update layout adjust things? I've found that I can make measures narrower than the spacing

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Christopher Smith
I don't know if I would confront him publicly (I'm Canadian too, so maybe I just have a different view on how to conduct oneself publicly.) I would definitely try one last time, saying that this is my last email on the subject. After that, send a registered letter (so he can't deny having

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: While I fault myself for not requiring a payment in advance now, should I comment on this conductor's Facebook page and ask why he's ignoring my Emails and requests for payment? I'd hate to put anyone on a spot like that in such a public forum, but I want my money. No,

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
Kim, Assume the best. There may be an issue with his email account, or other things may have come up (even anti-spam measures). If it's via Facebook, it has been having some issues lately. My route would be using postal mail to his professional address with a copy to the organization's own

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
See if choosing clear or ignore doesn't remove this issue. ignore would effectively ignore any manual placements. i think he has already tried with clear. sounds like document corruption. david brings up a point that could be worth looking into. although since the prob seems local i

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote: Kim, Assume the best. There may be an issue with his email account, or other things may have come up (even anti-spam measures). I always assume the best Dennis, trust me. But I really doubt there's any issue

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
i would skip the middle part, that can come across bad, as a threat, or a promise to make comments that could possibly be seen by him as slanderous. but do send a hard copy, signed, with specific dates and mention when you started the work, that you did it on short notice and would

Re: [Finale] O.T. Advice sought on a conductor who will not pay his bill

2010-02-21 Thread Lawrence Yates
I had a problem with someone who would not pay. When I phoned him, he was very friendly and promised the earth but nothing ever came. Eventually I spoke to a solicitor friend who, before offering me professional services, advised me on the wording of a letter which, being in suitably legal

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Darcy James Argue
You need to also look at the spacing in Scroll View in order to get the full picture. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 21 Feb 2010, at 3:26 PM, dc wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: What about the measures to the left of the left-most measure in your example? And are

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21

2010-02-21 Thread Jari Williamsson
dc wrote: I did try hitting 5 as you suggested, with no result either. It's Ctrl+5 (beat spacing) in recent versions of Finale. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
dc wrote: Thanks. I'd also tried that following Martin's advice. No luck. For some reason, at the time I sent my post, I had not yet received Martin's. Just curious: have you examined the affected measures in the Frame editor window? ns ___

[Finale] CoilMac

2010-02-21 Thread nick
As J D Thomas wrote: This is what I like about the CoilMac machine. It has an open throat... This was one of the main reasons I chose to sell the CoilMacM, ie it provides a solution for larger score formats. We can also get the ECI version but the electric coil inserter adds over $200 to the

Re: [Finale] CoilMac

2010-02-21 Thread Christopher Smith
I had to make thirty 200-page booklets once, and it took almost 2 hours to insert all the coils. I was thinking about the electric coil insertion device then, but I would have to be doing that every day to make it worthwhile. I can deal with 2 hours once or twice a year. Christopher On

Re: [Finale] TGTools smart explosion of multi-parts

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
F2010b, OSX.6, TGTools 2.60 anyone successful in using this? it is jamming on me, tobias is looking at the file i am working on, but i thpouight i'd gather some info here in case anyone else noticed issues with the plugin. hoping for some advice / tips from anyone who has used this plugin

[Finale] Re: Spiral binding

2010-02-21 Thread Paul Hayden
Let's say you want to punch holes for the long side of a tabloid (11 x 17) page. How hard is it to realign the page after the first punch (which appears to be 13 or 14 for the machines you own) so you can get enough holes to cover most of a 17 page? I can remember Kinko's screwing that up

[Finale] how do you split multi-parts on single staves?

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
does anyone use this plugin at all? i ran it on a one measure, 2-staff score (new doc no libraries) and it came up with errors. are there any specific settings that are problematic? i tried changing a number of things but it isn't working. if i end up doing this manually, does anyone

Re: [Finale] how do you split multi-parts on single staves?

2010-02-21 Thread Christopher Smith
One thing you have to do (which I found out the hard way) you have to have ALL staves visible. If you run it on a linked part, or in the score while a staff set is showing, it won't work. AFAICT (as far as I can tell) it works very well still, but linked parts (surprise!) are a problem.

RE: [Finale] Re: Spiral binding

2010-02-21 Thread Lee Actor
Aligning the paper for punching the remainder of the length is easy. You flip the pages over and place them on an alignment pin, which assures that all holes are evenly spaced. Possible glitch: if you forget to pull the disengagement pin on the 2nd punch, or don't align the end of the paper with

Re: [Finale] how do you split multi-parts on single staves?

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
i did run in scroll view with all staves and haven't yet generated the linked parts, since the parts i want to use haven't been added to the score, that is what i am trying to do with the plugin! also ran it on a 1-measure plain vanilla doc (new with no libraries) and it jammed there too,

[Finale] [OT] clef for high basses

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
how many ledger lines are too much in tenor that warrant a change to tenor clef? D5 (written) seems feasible with only 3 ledger lines, then E5 above the 3rd ledger line should be fine... in all cello literature the change happens (at the latest) as soon as a single C5 is part of the

Re: [Finale] [OT] clef for high basses

2010-02-21 Thread John Howell
At 5:40 AM +0100 2/22/10, SN jef chippewa wrote: how many ledger lines are too much in tenor that warrant a change to tenor clef? D5 (written) seems feasible with only 3 ledger lines, then E5 above the 3rd ledger line should be fine... in all cello literature the change happens (at the

Re: [Finale] [OT] clef for high basses

2010-02-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
Basses in tenor clef should still be notated an octave above absolute pitch, so it shouldn't be higher than cellos. (And I assume that you meant to write how many ledger lines are too much in BASS ...) ah, no i meant tenor *clef*. yes the question is ledger lines, i know about

[Finale] suggestions for amateur composer

2010-02-21 Thread kaub001
I am an amateur choral composer, mostly writing pieces for our local congregation and choir, and some have been very well received. I am quite satisfied to remain just a local composer, but I have received several requests to publish a recent choral work of mine. A local choir director friend

Re: [Finale] removing unwanted changes

2010-02-21 Thread kaub001
Something that sometimes works for me: 1. Select the offending measures. 2. Apply time signature spacing. 3. Respace the measures. Apparently, at least in older versions of Finale, time signature spacing was the equivalent of no spacing applied. Haven't had to do this for a while, so I don't

Re: [Finale] Re: Finale Digest, Vol 79, Issue 21

2010-02-21 Thread John Blane
Not the Note Mover TOOL - Note Position Tool in the SPECIAL TOOLS palette On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:38 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sun Feb 21, at SundayFeb 21 2:23 PM, dc wrote: David Froom écrit: I just tried what I think was wrong. My guess is that your guy did manual spacing with the