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Well, in my mind, horses just made my interest in DNA go
up!http://www.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/news/science-environment-23060993
Janie
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This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
At 11:50 AM 7/9/2007, you wrote:
This message is from: "Gail Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
While Odin would never be dangerous, I am
having trouble figuring out the best way to collect these hairs. My current
thought is to gra
This message is from: "dfle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I, too, pull them from either the tail or mane. I did an older mare just
recently. I wrap the hair around my fingers and pull. The problem is if you
have lots of horses to do, the hair can finally cut your fingers some. I have
not had a horse
This message is from: "jgayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gail, I also collected hair samples from grumpy Gunnar who kept on eating
while I pulled at least fifty or more from his mane. The mane was winter
long then. Jean Gayle
Author of:
'The Colonel's Daughter"
Occupied Germany 1946 to 1949
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Gail:
On any age horse, I have had the best luck by selecting hairs from the
center of the upper tail (8 - 12 inches from the top). I just swirl the hairs
around a finger and gently (and quickly) pull them out. I usually do this two
or
even three ti
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Mike,
>
What I meant was you explained to me how to access the system for the CFHA,
who to contact, etc. I also know that yes, we might have to do double DNA
tests, but hopefully not!
Lynda
perating with UC Davis. Mann Equitest is
connected with the University of Guelph, Ontario. You might find that UC
Davis, Mann Equitest and Guelph all are cooperating.
I didn't mean to say that they were not cooperating Jean. They do & I get
DNA samples from them & send them to Da
t to
>the person that pays for it or to the Canadian Lab if requested though. I
>am not sure the Canadian lab has the capability to scan all of their DNA
>types to make a match for one. UC Davis just recently implemented this.
>
>Mike
*
hough. I
am not sure the Canadian lab has the capability to scan all of their DNA
types to make a match for one. UC Davis just recently implemented this.
Mike
===
Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Executive Director & Registrar
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Hi Jean,
Not a problem, Mike already confirmed for me that we have a way to check both
the NFHR and the CFHA, thank goodness! Otherwise, this could be even more of
a costly and time consuming project!
Lynda C. Welch
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Vice President, No
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Don't forget to check the DNA files of the CFHA/CLRC. I had my mare Stella
DNA'd for the CLRC to confirm that she was indeed the dam of Anvil's
Borgen. They use a different company but it may be possible to Go through
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Oops! Was supposed to go privately.
Lynda
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Hello Bill,
I had forgotten to mention in the last email that if you need help with the
DNA kit for Happi, let us know! We would be happy to walk you through it.
Thanks,
Lynda and Daniel
Bailey's Norwegian Fjords & Shetlands
White Cloud, M
This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Because there is a test for checking homozygosity (is that a word?) for
tobiano in paints, but even that has to be accompanied by info on color of
parents and parents' parents. It's only for tobiano, not sabino. And overo
in homozygous
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<< Seems to me if you want to guarantee a grey dun foal, cross a BB with an
rr
(chestnut), and since B is dominant over r, you'd get a grey baby whose
genotype would be Br. Yes? >>
Well I'm new to horse genetics, but have studied the genetics of
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Hello,
Our Classic Shetland stallion has been tested homozygous for the tobiano
gene. From our understanding from both the lab and our equine vet, the only
test they can perform is to see if the animal in question throws white,
indicating pinto or paint
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Why is it they can tell with paint horses if they will always throw colour ?
Sorry this may be a big question.
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From: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Septem
stnut), and since B is dominant over r, you'd get a grey baby whose
genotype would be Br. Yes?
Cheers!
Karen
From: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
To:
Subject: DNA
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2002 21:58:35 -0700
This message is fro
ave of getting a grey thanks randi
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From: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:15 PM
Subject: coats, more DNA
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This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Our Silka and her son, Sonny, of Anvil Acres heritage, are both shagging up.
All the others are still prettly slick. Also, the greys seem to stay a
little softer/slicker than the browns.
Lauren, again, [sorry I didn't read all the way
This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Lauren -
To date, there is NO test that will tell you the "color" genotype of your
horse. They are even unable, from DNA evidence alone, to tell you what breed
the horse is. They can only tell you who th
This message is from: "Snowy Mtn." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hello Mark
who is your stallion
I would be interested in looking up his bloodlines.
That is a very great average for siring grey. I used to beleave that the
grey gene had to be on both sides but I have been proven otherwise. Sven
also has only
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Snowy Mtn. wrote:
> I would like to do a blood test or DNA test on our stallion Sven to see if
> he is homiogeneous (sp) Or that he will always throw the grey colour. Does
> anyone know what lab would be able to do this for me
ey or brown. I don't know if this
is right, but you get the picture.
Thanks: Mark Skeels
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From: Snowy Mtn. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:56 PM
To: Fjordhorse List
Subject: DNA ?
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This message is from: "Karen Keith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I would like to do a blood test or DNA test on our stallion Sven to see if
he is homiogeneous (sp) Or that he will always throw the grey colour. Doe
This message is from: "Snowy Mtn." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I would like to do a blood test or DNA test on our stallion Sven to see if
he is homiogeneous (sp) Or that he will always throw the grey colour. Does
anyone know what lab would be able to do this for me ???
Thank you for y
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At 10:17 PM 8/6/2001 -0400, you wrote:
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In a message dated 8/6/01 5:34:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> You could draw a blood sample, but that would mean a nast
my husband said So why can't you just take
a new card or stiff horse brush and do the horses tail.some hairs with
roots are sure to come outand know what?
Well they probably could get DNA from some of the hairs that way BUT it
would just be to labor intensive to do so. I am sure
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At 09:42 AM 8/6/2001 -0500, you wrote:
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Regarding CFHA - DNA
All breeding stallions registered with Canadian Livestock Records
Co
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At 09:57 AM 8/6/2001 -0400, you wrote:
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I am not going to think of what it might be without you Mike. I am saying
"Thank You "for all the help you have giving us. I have called you , wro
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In a message dated 8/6/01 5:34:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
> You could draw a blood sample, but that would mean a nasty prick with a
> needle.
Just how I feel about my doctor when he wants to draw my blood.
Pamela
he is. not one tear, not one flinch did i get from him. of course
i did it in the barn, away from prying neighbor's eyes. so all of you
on the list, and any peta lurkers out there, please forgive me!!! the
dna test material in now in the hands of the u.s. postal service.
denise delgado
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> So why can't you
> just take
> a new card or stiff horse brush and do the horses tail
The material they are after is the tissue that comes out with the rooted
hair. Hairs that come out with simple brushing are loose and won't
always have root on the
at there were no nerve endings in a horses mane and tailnot
that I believed it for a minute. This spring Misty, my arab mare, had many
braided snarls in her mane (compliments of the Appy gelding). I used
scissors and seam rippers to cut throught them as she would not stand for
pulling. Storm di
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--- Sue Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Surely if dna is necessary, there must be
> some method of getting
> this without torturing the poor horse in this
> manner. This is
> ridiculous...putting a horse thro
n you brush your guys mane out??? don't you find hairs come
out--please don't make more out of it than it really is.
Randi in s.w. Wisc.
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To: "Fjord Digest"
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 11:50 A
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
i second you and then tons more, tillie, in regards to mike. he is a
gem, though unseen to me, via the internet. a very nice man. denise
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Regarding CFHA - DNA
All breeding stallions registered with Canadian Livestock Records
Corporation must be DNA tested and a record of this DNA test result filed
with CLRC before their offspring can be registered.
Eff
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"Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote:
> >My colt, Redbank Desert Storm, was registered in the
> >Canadian Fjord registry and dna was not done. He was microchipped and
> >that was it.
I think,
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I am not going to think of what it might be without you Mike. I am saying
"Thank You "for all the help you have giving us. I have called you , wrote
you and emailed you. Never once did you question me or say my questions were
dumb. Keep up the good work.
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I think, if I see a chance to find out who are A'simis parents I will do
this cruelty ... Just for to find out what happened to him before I could
buy him in this dog pension. But there is no chance to find it out. In
Germany the DNA will not be regis
it around the office thinking up new ways to torture horses all the
time.
And then to really answer that question, NO I do not make the rules. I am
the Registrar of the NFHR, the Board of Directors makes the rules. But in
the case of DNA typing I think it is a very good rule. You would be ve
This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sue how do you suppose those jumpers, hunters and dressage horses get those
short manes? They are pulled not cut or trimmed/ I hired my hair dresser
to come out and see if she could cut my horses mane in such a way that it
would look pulled.
his idea, Im sure.
>Lisa Pedersen
Who in Heavens name came up with this sort of torture? Mike May did you
really do that?? My colt, Redbank Desert Storm, was registered in the
Canadian Fjord registry and dna was not done. He was microchipped and that
was it. Surely if dna is necessary, th
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"Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote:
>
> You don't have to pull all 50 of them at once. You can pull from different
> spots too. I have never done it myself but I have heard that a good pair
> of pliers works pretty well for gripping them too
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"Mike May, Registrar NFHR" wrote:
>
> You don't have to pull all 50 of them at once. You can pull from different
> spots too. I have never done it myself but I have heard that a good pair
> of pliers works pretty well for gripping them too
ime, and yank swiftly,
with a strong , short jerk...no half way, "Oh, I am sooo sorry" jerks, OK?
Otherwise they WILL feel it!
I am glad that there have been no DNA disputes with my ponies, er,
horses...as I have probably never had anywhere near the correct amount of
hair in there, I proba
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Denise,
it's like removing a bandage... do it real fast and they won't even
notice... we do the tails... pluck, pluck, done!!
they don't seem to even notice.
Ruthie, nw mt
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>
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dear mike, i don't mean to be rude, but i know not to pull out all 50
at one time. that would leave a bloddly mess, i'm sure! i tried
hemostats (pliers). they work very well. and finally, fifty hairs is a
lot, but that is what the lab
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In a message dated 8/4/01 3:46:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
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> . I have never done it myself but I have heard that a good pair
>
Oh it's a piece of cake. You've got an itty bitty foal. And you lovingly
entwine your fingers
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At 06:00 PM 8/3/01 -0700, you wrote:
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
listers,
a new question for you out therei just recieved my dna testing kit
for quinn. an
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At 11:31 PM 8/3/01 -0400, you wrote:
This message is from: "John Bosomworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Why do they need so many hairs? We only need half that many when doing a
DNA
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Why do they need so many hairs? We only need half that many when doing a
DNA testhairs are sent to Guelph, Ont. We only pull hairs from the
mane.Pull 2 or 3 at a time with a "quick jerk&
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
listers,
a new question for you out therei just recieved my dna testing kit
for quinn. any ideas on the quickest, easiest way to yank out 50 hairs
with roots intact from the mane and tail? denise
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At 09:47 PM 10/5/00 -0400, you wrote:
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Mike, we have both Reg. Paint and Miniature Horses. We are required to DNA
all of our breeding stock. The Miniature kits are co
, MIke?
I don't make up the kits. We have a company in CO that does it for us. It
works like this:
I get a Registration Application in (or an order for a DNA Kit).
I enter the new horse into our database. (This involves the color, DOB,
name, sire, dam, breeder, previous owners, mic
t; to be made up too. Add in some postage etc. etc and the costs add up. We
> do make a slight profit on the kits but it isn't much.
>
> Mike
Mike, we have both Reg. Paint and Miniature Horses. We are required to DNA
all of our breeding stock. The Miniature kits are costing
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At 08:53 AM 7/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
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I'll be getting a few hairs here and there and sending them off asap!
Yeah I wish the instructions were better than they are. We have the kits
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At 08:48 AM 7/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
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Mike, the info in the Fjord Herald says DNA testing is not required of
Geldings. If we are registering our under 6 month old colt a
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In a message dated 7/12/99 3:47:26 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Don't make it harder than it has to be. >>
No, won't do that . Very glad to be on this list. The instructions on
the kit were clear as mud and sounded brutal, and da
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Mike, the info in the Fjord Herald says DNA testing is not required of
Geldings. If we are registering our under 6 month old colt and we are pretty
sure he will be gelded in the future, should we then not have him DNA tested?
Thanks,
Suzan
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At 10:43 AM 7/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
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In a message dated 7/9/99 21:00:38 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< If you did all 50 at once, the horse might never speak to
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At 08:48 PM 7/9/99 -0400, you wrote:
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I just got my DNA test kit in the mail. What I thought would be an easy job
looks a little more daunting than I expected. Silly me
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My last message didn't make the cut. It was about repeating the entire
message one is responding to. So it goes.
When I pull hairs I use tweezers & pull short hairs around the anal area
on the underside of the tail. The fatty tissue around the hair root is
u all for your responses and help. I never had to do this with my
arabs, qhs and tbs. So I was at a complete loss when I got my DNA test kit.
Now I have some sort of a clue how to do this today.
Pamela
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In a message dated 7/9/99 21:00:38 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< If you did all 50 at once, the horse might never speak to you again!
Julie >>
or speak only evil to me henceforth. I've heard a couple people say they
do it all
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Thanks~ I was thinking you'd have to yank really hard to get 50-100 in one
shot, and that my lights would be kicked out by the time it was over. Glad
to hear that they come out relatively easy and the horses don't seem to care.
I did used to pull the m
This message is from: "Jon A. Ofjord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
When I pull hairs for DNA testing, I wrap the hairs around my index finger
close to the base of the hair and give a quick, but firm tug in a downward
direction. They all come out in a nice bundle and no one seems to m
This message is from: Julia Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
No, no, no!!! Not all at one time Just a few hairs at a time, from
mane or tail. I pull the short ones at the top of the tail and alternate
with scratching the dock, which they love. Mane hairs work fine also, a
few at a time from the m
This message is from: "Margaret Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I just today pulled hair on 3 horses. I pull from several sites and do not
try to pull the required 50-100 hairs from one site. None were delighted
with me, but were stoic about it.
Margaret Strachan
Village Farm
Nuevo, CA
Sunny and
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Pamela
I just pull them out of the mane in little bunches, till I have what looks
to be 100 hairs with roots on. I don't think they all have to be from the
same pull.
Lori
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> I just got my DNA test kit in the mail.
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I just got my DNA test kit in the mail. What I thought would be an easy job
looks a little more daunting than I expected. Silly me. I thought I'd just
pluck a couple hairs out of Skylark's tail, and ship them out. I had NO CLUE
that I'
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