I had to reload SDR software since I added a larger drive. I kept
thinking my last version I was running was v1.6.3 but the one I just
downloaded is v1.6.2
Am I just imagining that I had loaded?
Thanks
Scott
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Is there any way to increase the size of the console? Have a large LCD
screen and would like to make it larger.
If I pull out sides it only pulls out so much of the console the rest is
open space.
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Can someone send me the url to the TortoiseSVN download.
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Is this the correct link to the SVN Tortouise download?
svn://206.216.146.154/svn/repos_sdr_windows/PowerSDR/trunk/bin/Release
It does not work for me?
Scott
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Worked fine for me this morning, maybe just a late mistype last night.
Awesome looking console!!
Trying to learn a few new buttons. Are these specified somewhere?
Thanks
Scott
On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 08:17 -0500, Eric Wachsmann wrote:
> That is the correct SVN address to use when doing
Ok I may be crazy here but on V1.6.3 SVN680 I am recieving NASA Space
walk transmission s9 to 20 over on 7.185 lsb.
I also get same thing on v.1.6.2.
is this being retransmitted from a location or am I crazy?
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Mine is as well, but it does work fine..
Scott
KQ8RP
On Fri, 2006-09-15 at 18:29 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tuner is grayed out. Is this my individual problem or is it intentional ?
>
> Art
>
>
> -
>
Does the footswitch connect to pins 10 & 15 on the X2 Connector to key
transmitter?
Thanks
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On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 22:02 -0400, Tim Ellison wrote:
> ...with the SDR-1000? I am sure all of us have asked ourselves that
> question at least once.
>
> I was talking to John W5GI today on 14.185 and the skip was
I am running v1.6.3 beta and can no longer get this to work?
Scott
KQ8RP
-Original Message-
From: Eric Wachsmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:53 PM
To: 'Philip M. Lanese';
have RF getting into the USB cable.
Not sure if its related to what your seeing but same thing is going on.
73's
Scott
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 20:23 -0400, Pete wrote:
> While experimenting with a multiband wire antenna today, I ran into a
> problem. On one of the bands the radio re
back into the SDR.
On Sun, 2006-10-15 at 20:48 -0400, Scott wrote:
> Funny you sent this today. I had this happen to me on 40m and 75m
> today. Only when I am running my CLipperton. This has not happened to
> me before. But I am using a new V1.6.3 and my 160m loop antenna came
> dow
dio Systems
> >
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> > > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Scott
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:37 AM
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> > > Subject: [Flexr
Can someone recommend any multimode software that works with with the
flex for rtty,psk,sstv, cw?
tnx
Scott
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Anyone got a good link to purchase some ferrite cores?
Scott
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else experience this?
Scott
http://www.kq8rp.us
v1.6.3 SVN701
On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 21:14 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Has any one else had their "Edge" S meter freeze up.
> Happens mostly when I am xmitting. Top 1/2 says "power" lower 1/2 shows no
> needle.
&g
it is un readable.
If I change the options to Pre processed on recieve it records fine.
But then playback over the air doesn't work.
I went back to SVN 696 and got the same issue.
So what am I doing wrong?
Scott
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I seen a few speakers for the SDR listed in the archives. But need a
bit more advice.
I am looking for a pair of speakers that I can hang from the wall
instead of placing on the desk.
Anyone have any recomendations?
Thanks
Scott
http://www.kq8rp.us
be about $185 or so.
I also seen on Newegg.com tonight Windows Media Center XP they are
calling it with a upgrade to Windows Vista.
Is this something I should consider or should I just spend the $185 to
ge the XP?
Any comments?
Thanks
Scott
Just put the SDR on a faster machine P4 2.66ghz. I am using the USB
adapter as I did before. It seems to just disable itself on its own.
This is in the recieve mode.
Any ideas on what to look for?
Scott
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I have the same issue on 60 meters every 16khz can't seem to get rid of
it as well.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Sowden
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:25 AM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Spur
I have a both
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73's
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http://www.kq8rp.us
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:00 AM
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Last couple of nights in working some of the dx contest, I noticed my
ANF filter doesn't seem to be doing anything. I am using SVN934
What is some settings used by others that seem to be working?
Thanks
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Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:49 PM
To: Scott
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] ANF Filter
cool - where did you find SVN 934? the newest public version I can
find
d put it up for
discussion.
73's
Scott
KQ8RP
http://www.kq8rp.us
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On Behalf Of Scott
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 9:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [3830] CONTEST: CQ-160-SSB
CALLSIGN: KQ8RP
QTH - Westerville,
0 0 to < 2 W x10
1 W to 5 W x7 2 W to 10 W x7
>5 W x1 > 10 W x1
Highest power used at any time on any mode determines multiplier. Please
limit power to100W maximum.
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Sent
I downloaded 986 a couple of times but it shows SVN 981. So is 981
right or should it show 986?
KQ8RP
Scott
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at Power SDR Console.Main(String[] args)
Anyone else have this issue?
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West Mountain Radio, a ham radio supplier, makes a great set of speakers made
just for our RF environment. And they are only $40 plus shipping
<http://www.westmountainradio.com/product_info.php?products_id=com_spkr>
They work real good.
good luck
Scott Blixt
then uninstalling that worked fine, 1500 is working now fine.
> Again thanks for all the help... 73 and have a great weekend...
> Emory WM3M
Scott Blixt
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This is most likely covered elsewhere..
I was messing with the K9DUR voice keyer getting ready for the CO QSO Party
this coming Saturday. K9DUR voice keyer seems to work great and produce
excellent audio.
Because N1MM does voice keying, using it would eliminate one additional
Windows focu
From: Richard Clafton [mailto:rclaf...@riroc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:37 PM
To: 'Mack McCormick'; 'Dan Scott'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] N1MM and Voice keying
This thread may shed some light. Possible that it is the sampling rate.
http
-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dan Scott
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 6:08 PM
To: rclaf...@riroc.com; 'Mack McCormick'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] N1MM and Voice keying
Richard,
Thanks for the thread. I was thinking sampling rate of the recorded message
but
radio.
Thanks,
Scott Haslam
K7DSH
dshas...@msn.com
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Lars,
I normally just read the emails to see if there is something that sparks my
interest in this group. I very seldom comment.
This concept of full mic gain, then amplifying more using mic boost, sparked
my interest... or maybe it is simply a question: Why?
What application are you needin
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Hi,
After having the FLEX-1500 sitting around since winning it at a local
hamfest in July, I am getting around to getting it running.
Being that PSDR is already install for the 5000, how do I add a second radio
(after the fact)?
I have reset the DB, that didn't work. I reinstalled v2.5.3, that
compatible on the same
system as the 5000?
Thanks,
Dan
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Scott
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:28 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] Adding a FLEX-1500 to PSDR which is alread
mail off the reflector trying to
do the same thing. This should solve their problems as well.
73,
Dan
From: Terry Maurice [mailto:ve3...@execulink.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Dan Scott
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Adding a FLEX-1500 to PSD
Terry,
It seems nice so far. I have not yet really had time to do more than
install it. Hopefully I will get to operating some this weekend!
73,
Dan
From: Terry Maurice [mailto:ve3...@execulink.com]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2013 6:59 AM
To: Dan Scott
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
ng about my FW card I installed
There is an article in the archives that tells how to use the flex control
panel to test for the FW card.
So, does anyone have any input to our issue?
My friend is thinking of either installing the regular ver of XP SP 3 or
installing WIn 7. If that would hel
gt;
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Scott Blixt wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I have a good friend who is new to the flex. He is running v2.6.4 on a PC
> that is using XP 64 bit SP 2
>
> HE has been having some connection issues with this set up. My firs
Hi,
I have a couple IC version of the Heil Pro-sets that I use with my portable
station(s). What I want to do is use one of these with the FLEX500.
KB article:
http://kc.flexradio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50372.aspx?Keywords=icom+heil+pr
o
covers re-wiring the pins in the Heil adapter c
Not 3000. a 6700!
Like:
"I knew you'd like the audio quality" J
HIHI
Dan
W0RO
From: William H. Fite [mailto:omni...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:44 PM
To: Dan Scott
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Heil Pro-Set
The
the
original owner.
Radio has had minimal use and well cared for.
Asking for $2400 and will pay for shipping to the 48 states.
Thanks,
Scott Haslam
k7dsh
kilo7...@gmail.com
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am the
original owner.
Radio has had minimal use and well cared for.
Asking for $2400 and will pay for shipping to the 48 states.
Thanks,
Scott Haslam
k7dsh
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I have a HM-5 mic. And I also have a Flex 3000. Which cord do I need to make it
work with the Flex?
On Jan 8, 2014, at 12:22 PM, wa1...@gmail.com wrote:
> I bought my Flex 3000 used and it came with a Heil HM-5 mic. It was just
> OK...
Scott Blixt
A Minnesota
nge now, for the latest
> software that may require some different setup. than the manual shows?
>
> OR DO I JUST HAVE A DEFECTIVE TUNER?
>ANY IDEAS WOULD bE GREATLY APPRICATED.
> thanks
> dale wt4t
>
Scott Blixt
A Minnesota MadMan
Hi,
I have setup my Flex5000a setup for remote operation (kind-of) using Team
Viewer and Skype.
Almost everything is working great other than getting my voice from Skype
through the VAC and into the "radio".
What is working:
- controlling the radio via TeamViewer from the iPad
- lis
rom skype and the
VAC1 port? You must use some external software like "Virtual Audio Cable
(v12)".
Steve WA7DUH
On 11/23/2014 9:01 AM, Dan Scott wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I have setup my Flex5000a setup for remote operation (kind-of) using
> Team Viewer and Skype.
Im just curious if anyone has been successful running PowerSDR on a linux box
using WINE?
Ive about had it with Windows and am looking for other options
Ka0jwc
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To opt out of the Ref
have a Centrino Duo processor 2 GHz, 2 Gb of ram,
Windows Vista home premium 32 bit and it get a 3.3 Vista "performance
index".
So I am now at a standstill. I can't carry on a QSO for more than 30
seconds with any certainly of not freezing up.
Any
e" of
a laptop... not to mention it is XP! (No, I do not like Vista like most that
are unfortunate enough to have it, but that is another story.) However, it
would be nice to have it able to run on two of my computers though. The
laptop is nice if I want to take the rig to a friend
are of. Just a thought.
- I am not normally doing searches when PSD is running, so I don't know how
much file indexing is coming into play. I could disable the indexing, but I
can live with a dropout if I do a search or just disable it later if I start
searching while running PSD.
u did, but the
point is taken that having a machine that doesn't have any other garbage
riding on it and only the necessary hardware is the right path. But this is
not in the financial picture right now. Perhaps in a few months down the
road.
Thanks,
Scott AC8DE
From: David Donaldson [m
le VAC. That's about all
there is to it!
Good luck,
Scott, N5KRC
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Bernd Schnell wrote:
> Hello,
> yesterday I made a connection via my homenetwork (laptop to PC). The
> PowerSDR 1.18.0 can be controlled good on my laptop but I can get no
> audioou
back on getting the laptop up at a
later time.
73,
Scott AC8DE
-Original Message-
From: Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 2:21 AM
To: Scott Myers
Cc: Tim Ellison; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Freeze-ups on new Flex-3000
Scott, I bet
g it completely gone
over to find what I believe to be a more basic problem.
http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/msg28479.html
Thanks again,
Scott Myers
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From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 10:55 AM
To: Lar
on" and doing their thing even though the device
itself is in an off-state. Good luck on finding the source of the problem!
Scott, N5KRC
On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Sanger, Joseph wrote:
> I turned off my lcd tv, wireless router, and both OTHER computers ... no
> joy. Next I
that computer techs are familiar with.
I know more that the average bear, but it is over my head, unless I want to
spend the next 72 hours reading and deciphering and I just don't have that
kind of time.
Help!
Scott AC8DE
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Why does my PowerSDR screen show a second receiver at the bottom? I
obviously don't have one on a Flex-3000.
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I'll confirm what Tim is saying as to what I am seeing. Indeed, I am
talking about the buttons that should only appear in PowerSDR when you have
a second physical receiver. Dual VFO's is standard on any Flex radio, to my
knowledge, which is of course different than Dual receivers.
S
I am not too worried about seeing this second receiver on the screen. It is
a minor annoyance. I'll just wait for the bug fix I suppose. At least the
radio works.
From: Jesse N4BFD [mailto:n4b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:48 AM
To: Scott Myers
Subject: Re: [Flex
hanks Dudley, Tim and everyone that chimed in. Again, the reflector and
all the great Flex users comes to my rescue!
Big 73,
Scott AC8DE
From: Dudley Hurry [mailto:jhu...@austin.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:18 AM
To: Scott Myers
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio
Now here is a stupid question. When does one know if this fix has made it
into the trunk?
Scott AC8DE
From: Tim Ellison [mailto:telli...@itsco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:15 AM
To: Larry da Ponte
Cc: Scott Myers; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Second receiver
will not come back. So now, I simply make sure I restore to a
smaller window and it doesn't return. An small annoyance, but even I can
deal with that. Woo Hoo!! Thanks Larry.
73,
Scott AC8DE
From: Larry da Ponte [mailto:n7bcp.la...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 10:37
ow if I should worry about these, but certainly being informed
about their meaning would go along way to determining if they should be
messed with. I would think these should change slightly depending upon mode
of operation, but I don't know.
Scott AC8DE
with version 1.10. In fact that makes 192Khz
nearly unusable now. But - computers become outdated, newer software
relies on faster machines and more cores. Now I have a good reason to
stimulate the economy and get a new Intel i7 machine.
-Scott WU2X
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Duane - N9DG
Let me clarify my point that CPU usage has been steadily on the rise
in every release of PowerSDR. I think I saw Eric say he saw a 3% jump
for skins support. My 30% was from a really old version to pretty
betty, which encompasses a lot of changes, not just skins. -Scott,
WU2X
On Wed, Jun 17
Quick answer: Tune in the signal once it's playing.
Scott, N5KRC
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Harold Rosee wrote:
>
> I know I could read the manual but I thought I would see if I could get a
> quick answer here.
>
>
>
> In receive I am pressing the REC button ex
more harmonics when I operate
in the lower part of the waterfall closer to the carrier VS the upper?
There may be two different issues. They may be related. I am at a loss.
Scott AC8DE
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I'd highly recommend the #31 clamp on kit from DX Engineering as well.
Most of these pre-made cables with unspecified ferrite mixes on them
don't do anything below 20Mhz. If you buy #31, you know it will work
on the lower bands. -Scott, WU2X
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Geep Ho
Yaesu FT-857D, or will consider selling outright for $650. Please contact
me off-list if interested.
73,
Scott, N5KRC
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That didn't take long, the SDR-1000 has found a new home!
73,
Scott, N5KRC
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Scott Chrestman wrote:
> Between interests changing and another harmonic on the way, my beloved
> SDR-1000 needs to go! SDR-1000 with 8-pin mic connector, 100W internal amp
>
thout
replacing anything.
But if you must know, I run a very old Heathkit SA-2040 manual tuner which
has an inductor in it the size of a Buick. But when I replace it, it will
be with a Palstar.
So, back to you Mark.
73,
Scott AC8DE
From: flexra...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:f
I have just bought a new computer and it is loaded with 64 bit Vista. I
figured out the work around for VAC using F8. It would be nice if there was
a signed driver version, but at least I have PowerSDR running now. IS there
another SIGNED driver alternative solution to VAC?
Scott AC8DE
erlogic or Eltima serial port drivers? I did just
find where both can be downloaded and run on a trial basis, so I might have
to give both a go.
73,
Scott AC8DE
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Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 11:08 AM
To: Scott Myers;
ld machine. Vcom is simple, which
is the attraction. Fair enough.
Scott AC8DE
-Original Message-
From: Michael Walker (VA3MW) [mailto:va...@portcredit.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 7:32 AM
To: 'Scott Myers'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] Virtual Serial
al audio cable 4 (running with F8 at boot up)
HRD 5.0 beta, build 2306
Any ideas what is up with this?
Scott AC8DE
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I realized I misspoke when I said VAC. I meant vCom. I started talking
about com0com and some figured it out, but I thought I would clarify.
Scott AC8DE
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From: Tim Ellison [mailto:telli...@itsco.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 12:31 PM
To: Scott Myers
Subject
Thanks Tim,
Yes, I have now tried the Eltima package in trial mode and it works. I seem
to have everything functioning, but now I have other issues that I will put
up in another post. It's so easy. Hi hi It is really not that bad, just a
few snags with the new 64 bit OS.
Scott
I've been fighting what I thought was an RFI problem. To the point of
connecting the radio to a Battery and swapping out the computer's UPS
with different one as well as testing with a power inverter. Obviously I
turned off all power in the house for the test. What looks like RFI
remained.
frequency. It take a few power cycles to get the SDR-1000
on frequency, but once on, it stays on frequency.
Dan Scott wrote:
I've been fighting what I thought was an RFI problem. To the point of
connecting the radio to a Battery and swapping out the computer's UPS
with different one
ject finally
came of age.
Dan Scott wrote:
I forgot a couple items:
1. the noise is between from 15-meters through 30-meters.
2. I did a cold start up test too. Shut everything down for 12 hours
and tested immediately after bring everything back up.
I normally leave the radio powered up b
reason the control key + mouse wheel
combination is a problem for the Flex models, but I can open a feature
request for this if it isn't already open (if it does make sense), as
well give the code example we used (though its trivial and probably
not even needed).
-Scott, WU2X
On Mon, Oct 5,
instantaneous.
This seems to be designed in this way. Why is this? Does anyone know if I
can turn this off? I can handle ramping it with my own hand.
73,
Scott Myers
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Rather what I am seeing almost seems designed in.
73,
Scott Myers
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Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 5:44 PM
To: Anthony M
Cc: ac...@ameritech.net; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Mixer Audio "
Yup.. I would be nice if there was an option to put the short-cuts as in
the "alt"or "ctrl" rank. Then, if you want to use both a logger and
short-cut keys the odds of inadvertent frequency change would be greatly
reduced. Or maybe turn short-cut keys off by default so users don't
constantly
The issue here is Human Error caused by "focus confusion". (i.e.
inadvertently changing the frequency).
There are currently 4 ways I know to fix this:
1. Reduce the functionality of pSDR by disabling the shortcut keys, I
think most people do this (obviously I'm not sure).
2. Log (n1mm) from
w that the cursor is setting on top of. In XP you need to
download Tweak UI or Power Tools, in Vista it is a Windows Option to
enable. Then maybe use dual screens, this seems to work pretty good.
73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ
Dan Scott wrote:
The issue here is Human Error caused by "focus c
I use QRZ, Buck..etc lookup all the time from DX Suite of programs.
What is nice is that you can click on a spot, the logger is populated,
DXView is populated and PathFinder is populated and of course the radio
is correctly set. From PathFinder I look up the call on QRZ, or Buck,
or... FCC, o
audio from the flex to the input of the audio program, and use it to
record and play back locally without the need for PowerSDR at all. I use
this method for adjusting my audio as well as recording those rare DX
contacts that can then easily be saved in MP3 format for archiving.
Scott, N5KRC
On S
system, as my main ground strap is not as short as it
could be.
I'll get to working on it this weekend, but any thoughts would be
appreciated.
73,
Scott AC8DE
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or the day with this one but I
can now operate RTTY with the amp on 20M without PowerSDR freezes. Now to
sniff out where the RFI comes from exactly.
73,
Scott AC8DE
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rder is exactly; antenna, ICE lightning arrestor, bulkhead
with shield ground, balun design choke in shack, Heathkit SA-2040 tuner,
Diawa CN-801 SWR Meter, antenna switch for dummy load, AL-80B amp,
Flex-3000.
73,
Scott AC8DE
From: Tim Ellison [mailto:telli...@itsco.com]
Sent: Saturday, Dece
e. That
can't hurt.
Thanks everyone for bearing with me chasing down the problem.
I should still find someone that has a RF sniffer and see if there is
anything leaky, just to be sure. I know I read on how to make one somewhere
using an analyzer or something, but I can't re
Brian,
I'll get the problem whipped since I am now armed with this new info.
Thanks again for all your input. And of course Tim and Dudley, who are
always helpful.
73,
Scott AC8DE
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From: br...@lloyd.com [mailto:br...@lloyd.com] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd
Sent: Sat
I have noted that since I update my 3000 to the new preamps and update to
1.18.3, the NB and NB2 filters don't seem to do very much. Sometimes, it
seems like they do not do anything at all. I looked around and can't see
what this could be. Any suggestions?
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